liquidus119 Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 I think it is going to end up being Bulgarin's yacht. Niko said he lived ON the Adriatic Sea, which I am going to take as literally living on it. Perhaps he has you destroy his yacht to fake his death, or perhaps because international police forces are closing in. Or maybe he just pisses off Gay Tony or the Ancelottis. But I'm dead certain that the yacht belongs to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enjoii Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Or maybe he just pisses off Gay Tony or the Ancelottis. Well bear in mind that you work for whoever owns the yacht and destroy it on his command, you aren't sent to do it by anybody else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidus119 Posted August 31, 2009 Author Share Posted August 31, 2009 Yeah, that's why I said that he probably sends you to do it to fake his death or to stop international police forces from discovering him. Or both. I just put the Gay Tony thing in there because I've heard people don't believe that the guy who played the demo got all of the details right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cilogy Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Yeah, that's why I said that he probably sends you to do it to fake his death or to stop international police forces from discovering him. Or both. I just put the Gay Tony thing in there because I've heard people don't believe that the guy who played the demo got all of the details right. In fact, because of exactly what Enjoii stated, I have thinking that maybe the yacht belongs to Tony himself. I mean he is in a lot of debt according to some characters and Weazel News in vanilla, so maybe he wants Luis to destroy the yacht to clear it as evidence. Maybe the IRS or someone wanted to seize. Or its also possible that Tony needed money and to get some, he made Luis destroy the yacht so he can claim the insurance. That's possible, as I'm sure Tony would be desperately in need of cash after having his clubs close down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Mitch_Baker Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 The Adriatic Sea is in Europe, so I doubt very much it's Bulgarins yacht. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidus119 Posted August 31, 2009 Author Share Posted August 31, 2009 The Adriatic Sea is in Europe, so I doubt very much it's Bulgarins yacht. You're saying it's impossible to move a yacht? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EzaH Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 The Adriatic Sea is in Europe, so I doubt very much it's Bulgarins yacht. You're saying it's impossible to move a yacht? Yeah, right? Maybe he's a seamen?(giggle) So he had to have come to LC some way. So maybe while he's leaving he gets f'ed in the a? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOSEPH X Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Yeah, that's why I said that he probably sends you to do it to fake his death or to stop international police forces from discovering him. Or both. I just put the Gay Tony thing in there because I've heard people don't believe that the guy who played the demo got all of the details right. The guy who played the demo didn`t get all the details - all cutscenes were removed. Bulgarin is hiding from the cops, so I don`t think a big massive yacht would help him do that. It could be Yusuf Amir`s, and you have to do a couple of missions for him. First the skyscraper infiltration which has been taken over by the Mafia (maybe Joe Corolla, union leader and Pavano capo) after Deconstruction For Beginners, and in the second mish more goons take over his yacht. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidus119 Posted August 31, 2009 Author Share Posted August 31, 2009 (edited) The guy who played the demo didn`t get all the details - all cutscenes were removed. Bulgarin is hiding from the cops, so I don`t think a big massive yacht would help him do that. It could be Yusuf Amir`s, and you have to do a couple of missions for him. First the skyscraper infiltration which has been taken over by the Mafia (maybe Joe Corolla, union leader and Pavano capo) after Deconstruction For Beginners, and in the second mish more goons take over his yacht. He wouldn't have to worry about hiding from the cops on international waters though, would he? Although I could see it also being Yusuf Amir's. I just figured that with the sort of criminal dealings Bulgarin has (trading and exporting slaves and all that) he would be the much more likely person of living on a yacht. EDIT: We also have to take into consideration that according to the LCPD Database, Bulgarin has been dead before GTAIV even started. They wouldn't even be looking for him in that case. (Although this would invalidate my idea for the mission of faking his death, but not necessarily from avoiding international police) Edited August 31, 2009 by liquidus119 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Mitch_Baker Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 (edited) You're saying it's impossible to move a yacht? No, just unlikely a man with that kind of money would sail a luxury yacht across an ocean for days rather than take a 7 hour flight. Yusuf Amir is actually the best theory I've heard yet, with Gay Tony himself as a good runner up (destroying the yacht for insurance money)...Then maybe Bulgarin, though It'd mean Luis would sure piss him off when he helps Tony try to get his diamonds Edited August 31, 2009 by Big_Mitch_Baker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidus119 Posted August 31, 2009 Author Share Posted August 31, 2009 You're saying it's impossible to move a yacht? No, just unlikely a man with that kind of money would sail a luxury yacht across an ocean rather than fly. Yusuf Amir is actually the best theory I've heard yet, with Gay Tony himself as a good runner up (destroying the yacht for insurance money)...Then maybe Bulgarin, though It'd mean Luis would sure piss him off when he helps Tony try to get his diamonds Colonel Cortez did it in Vice City, so I don't see why Bulgarin couldn't do it... But as long as you admit it's a valid theory, I'm cool. I could see it being either Yusef Amir or Bulgarin to be honest (I just always pictured Yusef having some penthouse suite since he was a developer and all that) Gay Tony doesn't seem like the guy who would have a yacht to me though. It just seems odd that people think that Luis might be blowing up the boat for insurance purposes when it seems like he is doing it to keep whoever is attacking/boarding the boat from discovering something on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Mitch_Baker Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Colonel Cortez did it in Vice City, so I don't see why Bulgarin couldn't do it... I thought Cortez came from Central/South America, which isn't a far boat ride to Florida at all... But I do accept your theory as valid, anyone who says it isn't is full of sh*t unless they work for R* (or if it's Miss Cleo). And Gay Tony seems like the kind of guy who would have a lot to hide from the authorities, so who knows what's on the boat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slomojoe Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Yeah, that's why I said that he probably sends you to do it to fake his death or to stop international police forces from discovering him. Or both. I just put the Gay Tony thing in there because I've heard people don't believe that the guy who played the demo got all of the details right. In fact, because of exactly what Enjoii stated, I have thinking that maybe the yacht belongs to Tony himself. I mean he is in a lot of debt according to some characters and Weazel News in vanilla, so maybe he wants Luis to destroy the yacht to clear it as evidence. Maybe the IRS or someone wanted to seize. Or its also possible that Tony needed money and to get some, he made Luis destroy the yacht so he can claim the insurance. That's possible, as I'm sure Tony would be desperately in need of cash after having his clubs close down. I like the insurance idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Notorious MOB Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 I always thought that it was imployed Bulgarin was a sailing man. Not just because of the comments about him Living ON the adriatic but also because the first time we see him is at the docks where the Platypus is docked and it looks like he is only after arriving when he reveals himself to Niko. With that said though I dont think its Bulgarin's Yacht. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostSoul 301281 Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 I think Luis just out right kills Bulgarin. It's got something to do with the diamonds. Bulgarin busted up the meet with Niko + Packie and Tony + Luis when they were exchanging them got Gracie. I think Luis is sent by Tony to kill Bulgarin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanilla Shake Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 I think Luis just out right kills Bulgarin.It's got something to do with the diamonds. Bulgarin busted up the meet with Niko + Packie and Tony + Luis when they were exchanging them got Gracie. I think Luis is sent by Tony to kill Bulgarin. Why? The only ones who would have beef with Bulgarin in that mission would be Niko and the McReary's, because Tony and Luis were the ones who handed over the ice. They didn't care, they just wanted to get Gracie back from Niko and Packie, which they did. They were gone by the time Bulgarin arrived and f*cked things up. TC718 / <629 / CF5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlJaDa Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 If Bulgarin was that rich, why would he get into a huge feud with a petty criminal like Niko, wear shabby clothes and drive a Marbelle? Another thing, why would a man who owns a $25 million superyacht go through so much trouble and bloodshed to steal some diamonds only worth a couple of million? I don't think it's him. Yusuf Amir and Claude Wome seem more likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidus119 Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share Posted September 1, 2009 If Bulgarin was that rich, why would he get into a huge feud with a petty criminal like Niko, wear shabby clothes and drive a Marbelle? Another thing, why would a man who owns a $25 million superyacht go through so much trouble and bloodshed to steal some diamonds only worth a couple of million? I don't think it's him. Yusuf Amir and Claude Wome seem more likely. You're missing two things about Bulgarin... 1. He was angry with Niko because Niko sunk his boat and lost him a lot of money. If you honestly think that rich people don't care when they are screwed out of money, I don't know what to say. 2. He never stole the diamonds, and he never went through a lot of trouble to get them back either. I don't see how an African Warlord seems more likely to own a yacht then a guy who is implied to not only be involved in international slave trading, but is also implied to live on the ocean as a seamen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic_Al Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Of course the yacht could sail around the world. A super-yacht like that would be owned by a super-wealthy person who would have management of the yacht handled by a corporation he owns. The owner would have lots of homes, businesses, and vehicles of all kinds around the world. If he wanted the yacht moved he wouldn't do it himself, he would instruct his employees to have it anchored at a certain location by a certain date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidus119 Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share Posted September 1, 2009 Of course the yacht could sail around the world. A super-yacht like that would be owned by a super-wealthy person who would have management of the yacht handled by a corporation he owns. The owner would have lots of homes, businesses, and vehicles of all kinds around the world. If he wanted the yacht moved he wouldn't do it himself, he would instruct his employees to have it anchored at a certain location by a certain date. I love this explanation, even if it works more for Yusuf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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