MrcTOtheJ Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Ok i'm looking for a first car the price can not be over $2500 and I need a car that is reliable and is easy to work on i.e tuneing so any sugestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 P71 Crown Vic 4.6 litre and i hear they have potential for further tuning, not to mention they are pretty damn fast stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrcTOtheJ Posted August 31, 2009 Author Share Posted August 31, 2009 hmmm one that i shall consider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurch Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Anything with a small block chevy. Any retard with a wrench can work on one. And the parts and aftermarket support are cheap and plentiful. 2500 can pick you up a decent 73-87 GM pickup to tune to your hearts content. Assuming you can afford the gas bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrcTOtheJ Posted August 31, 2009 Author Share Posted August 31, 2009 (edited) I was lokking at a 1984 350 camaro (iknow not a truck but still a small block)not to long ago.But now I am looking at a 1981 nissan 280zx. Edited August 31, 2009 by Mr.c TO the J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef_Supreme Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Eagle Talon/Mitsubishi Eclipse. I'm talking about 1990-1999 here. You can find a 1990-1994 all wheel drive turbo for around $2000 bucks. And 1995-1999 non-turbo's are a lot of fun too. It's pretty easy to find them under $2500. Parts for these cars are easy to find, both OEM and aftermarket. Plus they're not very hard to work on. My 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD has 156,000 miles on it, and it's still going strong. With a few tweaks, these cars can be pretty fast. Do a lot of research before you buy your first car. You can find a lot of great cars in your price range. PM me if you have any more questions about Eagle Talon/Mitsubishi Eclipse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swolo yaggins Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 P71 Crown Vic 4.6 litre and i hear they have potential for further tuning, not to mention they are pretty damn fast stock. Yeah, he'll find a PI Crown Vic for less than $3,000.. but he'll need a lot of luck finding one that hasn't been thrashed to hell and with less than 100,000 miles. It's not like the police officers themselves give a f*ck about their cars. 5192:12.3.02LM/SSHmkl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrcTOtheJ Posted August 31, 2009 Author Share Posted August 31, 2009 @Desmosedici that was what I was thinking. @Beef_Supreme I was looking at an eclipse a while back but I decided not to go with one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurch Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Most retired interceptors have around 200k miles. And they're driven very hard for a lot of those. A plus side is that they're regularly maintained. And there is a decent amount of tuning potential there (like a mustang). Dunno if I want to be stressing an engine with that many miles on it though. I'll second the turbo DSM's though. They're plenty fast stock and have tons of potential to just be plain wicked. And the local junkyards always have a few to raid parts off of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 I still say, get American Cadillac 1985 Eldorado Biarritz in Firemist or Blue, or convertible, better yet!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocketkiller Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Around here, police crown vics are really well maintained and rarely go past 200k km's before getting sold. But I wouldn't in any way recommend a big, thirsty car as a first car. No matter how good of a driver you are, you're not experienced, and you'll most likely end up bumping into a few things on your first year or 2. I also wouldn't recommend getting a nice car as your first car for the same reason, I've seen plenty of people who got a nice new car from their parents and withing a year it was already scratched up and dented, not saying it'll happen to you, but it's more likely to happen until you get experience. Get a cheap, reliable beater, drive it for a few months to a year, then think about getting a good car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef_Supreme Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Lurch is right, DSMs are easy to find at Junkyards. What year of Eclipse did you check out? Was it turbo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrcTOtheJ Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share Posted September 1, 2009 It was a '98 non turbo FWD if it was a turbo I would have jumped on it instantly but the guy sold it and now i'm kinda pissed off at my self at not getting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef_Supreme Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 You should checkout your local craigslist.org. Non turbo DSMs 1995-1999 are pretty nice. My GF has a 1998 Eclipse GS 5-speed. I must say, it's a pretty fun car to drive. It has a decent amount of power, and its' pretty easy to work on. We haven't had too many problems with it. I would stay away from 1994-1999 *Turbo* DSMs...because of CRANKWALK. You don't want that...believe me. For $2500 bucks you could easily score a 1990-1993 Turbo All Wheel Drive Talon/Eclipse. If you can find a 1995-1999 non turbo Eclipse/Talon for $2000 under 100,000 miles...get it. A non-turbo Eagle Talon or Mitsubishi Eclipse would make an excellent first car for you. Plus...Chicks love DSMs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocketkiller Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 You should checkout your local craigslist.org. Non turbo DSMs 1995-1999 are pretty nice. My GF has a 1998 Eclipse GS 5-speed. I must say, it's a pretty fun car to drive. It has a decent amount of power, and its' pretty easy to work on. We haven't had too many problems with it My friend had a '98 NA 5spd eclipse and it was nothing but problems. First the speedo stopped working, then he had constant engine problems, and finally his steering rack went, and this was all in the course of about a year. I don't know where that car is right now, but I know he doesn't drive it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCspeed34 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 I also second the notion about a 1G Eclipse. Those engines are rock solid, and you can find one with AWD easy. As said before, stay away from the 2G Eclipse, they screwed up with those. They get decent gas mileage, and high power numbers (turbocharged). And parts are readily available. ________________________________________ 専車SODO-MOTO International Vehicle Importers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrcTOtheJ Posted September 2, 2009 Author Share Posted September 2, 2009 Well I know about the Eclipse's problems my cousin's clutch went out on theire '99 and me and her BF had to do the reinstall and I recomend for your sanity not to do a clutch reinstall on a 2nd gen eclipse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dog_day_sunrise Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Did the first gen's suffer with the same crank walk and crank bearing failure problems as the second gens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrcTOtheJ Posted September 3, 2009 Author Share Posted September 3, 2009 Did the first gen's suffer with the same crank walk and crank bearing failure problems as the second gens? They could have the motors in the 1g and 2g Eclipse's are very similar as far as I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. O Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 (edited) Did the first gen's suffer with the same crank walk and crank bearing failure problems as the second gens? Not exactly, the second gen TELs had a 7 bolt flywheel those motors showed up in 93, however, they did not have the same issues as the second gens. The first gen 4G63T is a 6 bolt flywheel pattern, it never happened on that motor. I somewhat agree with getting a DSM. The Ideal one to get is a 92 talon eclipse or laser (TEL) that is turbo AWD. That year has the good 6 bolt motor with the good 4 bolt rear end. Or get a Galant VR-4 those are even more fun with the addition of two more doors. But they are getting harder to find and more expensive since Mitsubishi only shipped 3000 GVR4's over to America. I had two 1st gen talons ( they look better) and two 91' Galant VR-4's. They are loads of fun (when they are running). I would not recommend one if you don't like fixing cars. They break often. But the motors are very solid, if they have been taken care of. I love DSM's you can make them pretty quick with very few mods. let me know if you have any questions on them, I have worked more on those cars than any other car. Edited September 4, 2009 by Mr. O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrcTOtheJ Posted September 4, 2009 Author Share Posted September 4, 2009 I looked at a gallant VR-4 on e-bay but it was across the country so I could not get it not only that it went for only $1,500! But If I were to get an eclipse/talon/laser 4wd Iwould just most likely just convert it to RWD in the same manner you would an Evo. A RWD 1g eclipse would be pretty BA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. O Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 I looked at a gallant VR-4 on e-bay but it was across the country so I could not get it not only that it went for only $1,500! But If I were to get an eclipse/talon/laser 4wd Iwould just most likely just convert it to RWD in the same manner you would an Evo. A RWD 1g eclipse would be pretty BA. Look up a RWD DSM, they don't work well. In fact they hardly work at all. With the suspension it has it is very difficult for those cars to get any sort of traction with only two wheel rear drive. I'm all about RWD but until you do a launch in a quick AWD car you won't want to change that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrcTOtheJ Posted September 4, 2009 Author Share Posted September 4, 2009 Well there goes my dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. O Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Well there goes my dream. I would say that your dream is still alive. The AWD DSM's get very good grip especially when launching. The feeling of doing an AWD launch is like sex. No comparable FWD or RWD car can keep up with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef_Supreme Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 ^ What Mr.O said. BTW, What do you want RWD for? AWD is a blast, especially in the snow. Another suggestion, HONDA CRX/Civic. -Beef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrcTOtheJ Posted September 4, 2009 Author Share Posted September 4, 2009 Anyways I like the civic idea better than the Eclipse it's not that I don't like the eclipse (acctualy it's one of the cars I first fell in love with). But I would prefer a RWD to practice drifting so the Eclipse and civic are out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. O Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Anyways I like the civic idea better than the Eclipse it's not that I don't like the eclipse (acctualy it's one of the cars I first fell in love with). But I would prefer a RWD to practice drifting so the Eclipse and civic are out. practice drifting? You do not want to do that in your daily driver car, you WILL destroy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrcTOtheJ Posted September 4, 2009 Author Share Posted September 4, 2009 So I guess thats out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. O Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 (edited) it's good to have fun with them in an empty parking lot, but actual drifting is pure talent, not just ripping up the e brake to slide around a corner. Get what you want but don't be stupid with it. We all like to "drift" and get sh*tty sideways in corners, however, I save all that for GTA4. I have actually gotten pretty good at it on the game. If you are looking for a DSM, got to dsmtrader.com If you are looking for a 6th gen Galant VR-4 go to galantvr4.org As for honda's, I'm not your guy. I have never touched a Honda. Edited September 5, 2009 by Mr. O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrcTOtheJ Posted September 5, 2009 Author Share Posted September 5, 2009 Well dosn't practice make perfect? As far a car I think a VR-4 is out as far as I've seen are expenseve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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