RESC10 Again ...

[davethejackal]

I recently bought a second 4670 for my system cheap on eBay with the intention of running it with the one I have in crossfire mode. The original card was a Gigabyte 512mb, the second a Sapphire 1Gb version. I tested the latter on it's own before attempting the crossfire and thought there was much less in the way of texture popping and other minor graphical glitches, I did notice that frame rates had dropped (possibly because it was able to load more textures in to memory) and it stuttered and froze occasionally. About a minute in to the game it crashed with the dreaded RESC10.

 

*** PLEASE NOTE THIS ALL HAPPENED IN A NON-CROSSFIRE SETUP, TESTING THE NEW CARD ***

 

I should add I've already completed all the main missions on the trusty Gigabyte, at one point playing for a solid 8 hours without problems. I've used driver cleaner and reinstalled the latest ATI drivers but really can't understand why performance has decreased (since I was running at settings which apparently required 750Mb ish of video memory)... and why, with this very similar card the game is now unplayable.

 

I say 'without problems' on the Giga, but did get the following:

1. Occasional low detail textures on close by surfaces, generally ones where the vertices were out of my field of view, until I looked left/right/up/down to see them all. Probably a software/driver issue.

2. On a couple of occasions I did have to restart when I got weird triangles on screen, generally a sign of overheating type problems (though maybe it's software) and have since installed a side fan on my case. This only happened once TBH and it was after hours of playing.

 

No problems noticed with either card in other games.

 

EDIT: I spoke too soon, I reinstalled the Arma 2 demo and Far Cry, Arma 2 seemed ok, though possibly lower dips in FPS, but Far Cry suffered a GPU reset after leaving it on the benchie with full settings for about an hour.

 

Other system details: windows XP fully updated, 2gb DDR2, AMD 7850 x2, AMD 790GX mobo, 9.8 CCC & Drivers.

 

EDIT: Latest GTA version ofc.

 

EDIT: Update - I think it may well be the card I bought on eBay. I just slotted the old one back in to place and it works fine, didn't even need to change the drivers. I'd suspect some problems with 1Gb cards in either GTA or the ATI drivers but I've seen posts of people with the same problem on just a 512Mb card like my original one. Back to the land of whiney fans, a few glitches and a solid 20-30+ FPS.

 

EDIT: I should also add that after quitting the game I had to reboot before I could restart it as it gave the 'unable to open directx device' which was worrying, it only occurred with the eBay card, indicating something isn't quite right with it.

Edited August 22, 2009 by davethejackal

[Girish]

For some reason, the game does not seem to run well in SLI/Crossfire mode. I suggest you turn off Crossfire and run the game only with the 1 GB video card. See what performance you get then.

Also, don't exceed the available resources (the ration that appears at the bottom-right corner of the Graphics options screen).

And try the -memrestrict command as suggested in the pinned topic.

Defragging your hard drive is also a very good idea.

[davethejackal]

For some reason, the game does not seem to run well in SLI/Crossfire mode. I suggest you turn off Crossfire and run the game only with the 1 GB video card. See what performance you get then.

Also, don't exceed the available resources (the ration that appears at the bottom-right corner of the Graphics options screen).

And try the -memrestrict command as suggested in the pinned topic.

Defragging your hard drive is also a very good idea.

This wasn't in crossfire, I was testing the card on it's own before installing the 2 together (erm ... plus I need to find my crossfire connector).

[Girish]

Try defragging and the -memrestrict command then.

 

Problem no. 1 might be a result of low memory. Try closing all running applications before starting the game.

[blood_hound]

dave i agree with Girishb, with crossfire it may mess up the game MORE badly, it's already messing up with just one, okay so the problem is RESC10 right? well, your in luck, i have one, apollo ATI radeon 4670 512mb ddr4, this is some sort of memory leak (i think? IMO) since i was able to fix this PROBLEM TWICE in two different ways, tons of solutions have been applied but only 2 worked well, first, try what girishb said if not, i'll help you

[davethejackal]

Thanks for all the help guys but I think the quickest and easiest solution is to send it back and wait for a 1Gb 4770 when/if they come out. As I've stated above I slotted my original card in there and it just works again (though now I am watching for it, it does occasionally suffer from a slow down in frame rates where the newer card stutters). I dodn't have to reinstall the drivers or anything.

 

I've tried all the above except degfragging, but my screen saver does that for me, plus I have a brand new 1Tb drive with about 20% full ... so I doubt it's the problem (and an OCZ 600W PSU before any one mentions that).

 

My 4670 was one of the very first produced (it even came with a 48xx bios by mistake, which I had to reflash) so perhaps this just goes to show, 'they don't make em how they used to'?

 

@blood_hound: what was your fix, out of curiosity?

 

EDIT: Please note I never ran the card in crossfire mode, as it was not shipped with a crossfire cable.

Edited August 22, 2009 by davethejackal

[blood_hound]

Actually it's an ati issue, the fix was a commandline and a registry file both was a solution but only one was better, if you're gonna return the vidcard then it's useless to tell XD

[davethejackal]

Actually it's an ati issue, the fix was a commandline and a registry file both was a solution but only one was better, if you're gonna return the vidcard then it's useless to tell XD

Howcome my older 4670 works then? I've completed the game with it, hardly a glitch.

[blood_hound]

not all of the things that are manufactured will give the same results dave, everything is different from the other one, even if it is cloned or manufactured the same im reminding you im using 4670 as well, i encountered this problem, it's not likely to find out that yours worked well

[davethejackal]

 

not all of the things that are manufactured will give the same results dave, everything is different from the other one, even if it is cloned or manufactured the same im reminding you im using 4670 as well, i encountered this problem, it's not likely to find out that yours worked well 

yeah that's true, but I think it's more than likely to be bad manufacture. Either taking hardware beyond it's limits in an attempt to provide unrealisticly high bench marks, not providing enough cooling or shoddy workmanship. A friend of mine discovered this a few years back with his Gigabyte 6800GT. Worked find on everything then long sessions of CS:S began to push it over the edge. He noticed the temperature was running high and got me to look at the cooling. I removed the heat sync and there was a dirty great 'quality tested' sticker between the heat sync and GPU. Removed that and the running temperature went down by 40C and he hasn't had a problem since!

 

My Gigabyte 4670 does occasionally show signs of overheating and I do have some RAM heatsinks I bought for it. Couldn't fit them to my 4670 as the single slot cooler got in the way, and did think about trying them on this new one, but if I did that and it didn't work I wouldn't be able to return it.

 

I am sure there are lots of bugs in GTA IV but as many of the 'fixes' seem to work by limiting the activity of the graphics card, reducing memory usage or effects or rendering etc, there's still a chance some are heating issues (solved by slowing the card down a bit).

 

BTW pm me the fix and I'll take a look at it

Edited August 23, 2009 by davethejackal

[blood_hound]

well i know that, Apollo ATI 4670 HD 512mb DDR4 that we bought might have issues as well, before it comes to my attention to play GTA IV, i was playing Spider-Man Web of Shadows, we were forced to buy Ati 4670 since 7300GT sonic is murdered by the game.. so far days after we bought the card, he started overclocking it, and in a really weird way the game gave 8+ Fps more, but in exchange sometimes it goes nuts and crashes, it goes back to the desktop prompting nothing but 16bit colors, then sometimes just a static image of 16bit. then i realize that OCing the Card makes it crash. although the temp doesn't go pass 41C it doesn't heat up or anything, also when i played RA3 it had a weird issue, the game can run VERY High settings (sometimes when too much happening on the battlefield, it kills some FPS, but it's a processor problem) but 5 or 13minutes later, either going again on 16bit desktop or 16bit static desktop, so what happened is i saw that the card is OCed again, so i turned it off XD

 

and this time, when i got GTA IV, OCing actually never helped fix memory leaks, it makes it worse, or not really. if it's not RESC10 im receiving, it's a 16bit desktop crap. the fix is actually a registry file, and it works, the commandline -availablevidmem 0.4 forces the pc to lockup some resources, but looses some in game textures and rendering the registry was supposedly my first bid when im encountering the error. the -windowed mode stopped the freezing for about 10 mins ~ 5 hours, some times not more than 5 seconds,

[davethejackal]

well i know that, Apollo ATI 4670 HD 512mb DDR4 that we bought might have issues as well, before it comes to my attention to play GTA IV, i was playing Spider-Man Web of Shadows, we were forced to buy Ati 4670 since 7300GT sonic is murdered by the game.. so far days after we bought the card, he started overclocking it, and in a really weird way the game gave 8+ Fps more, but in exchange sometimes it goes nuts and crashes, it goes back to the desktop prompting nothing but 16bit colors, then sometimes just a static image of 16bit. then i realize that OCing the Card makes it crash. although the temp doesn't go pass 41C it doesn't heat up or anything, also when i played RA3 it had a weird issue, the game can run VERY High settings (sometimes when too much happening on the battlefield, it kills some FPS, but it's a processor problem) but 5 or 13minutes later, either going again on 16bit desktop or 16bit static desktop, so what happened is i saw that the card is OCed again, so i turned it off XD

 

and this time, when i got GTA IV, OCing actually never helped fix memory leaks, it makes it worse, or not really. if it's not RESC10 im receiving, it's a 16bit desktop crap. the fix is actually a registry file, and it works, the commandline -availablevidmem 0.4 forces the pc to lockup some resources, but looses some in game textures and rendering the registry was supposedly my first bid when im encountering the error. the -windowed mode stopped the freezing for about 10 mins ~ 5 hours, some times not more than 5 seconds,

SO what's in the reg file? Can you open it with Notepad and cut and past whet it contains here? Plz

[blood_hound]

 

http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=380991 zerofreeze posted that, but the others said there is no confirmation other than him, so i tried it out and it worked nicely i backed up my registry in case it didn't some others say it worked well and even in other games