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JayM

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JayM

I've just been thinking about swearing and why its seen as such a negative type of language. I don't see how one word can cause such offence and why when someone swears they are respected less because of it. The urban legends surrounding the origin of the word 'f*ck' are interesting, such as it was an abbreviation of "Fornication Under the Christian King" which is apparantly false and that in early use it meant to have sex, which it still does today. Is that why it's seen as offensive, because it's a vulgar way of describing sex but then what about other swear words?

 

I swear from time to time, not a lot like some people do and I understand how people who can't express themselves clearly through normal use of language might swear to get their point across more effectively but this is usually 'frowned upon' in a debate situation but not in a casual way when said around friends, for example. So why is swearing considered taboo? Should society have grown out of this way of thinking towards this form of language and will the swear word as we know it ever die out?

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major underscore

As I see it, using swear words too frequenty is a sign of lacking language skills and/or manners. Not to mention that it takes away the power that a swear word can have if used in the right situation and the person using it then is known to not swear a lot - in such a context its use underscores what is being said and forces the listener to pay attention.

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Skimask101

This all depends on what your culture is used to. If you live in a some what 'Purist" or "Holier-than-thou" culture it's likely you will be criticized because they don't like it. Even if the culture has no religion or is Different*, they still show hate towards the word. In pop culture, the Mafia are portrayed as murders, thieves and maniacs but they still frown upon the use of swear words, which either shows that movie writers need to get in touch with the real Mafia or the scourge of anti-swear words pops up everywhere.

 

 

The majority of society dislike swear words because they're told they are bad and they will teach their children they are bad, so it will be a never ending cycle of children being taught there are words not be mentioned.

 

 

Since we live in society where some words appalling but genocide is acceptable, it may take a few... thousand years to rid our languages of the primitive description of calling a word "bad".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*Asterisk: Completely batsh*t insane cultures or people; Ross Perot is completely batsh*t insane and probably frowns on the use of swear words.

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John The Grudge

I swear a fair bit. To be honest I hardly know I'm doing it most of the time. It's not like I swear to sound cool like a rapper though. Talking to me or most of my mates you'd hardly notice the swearing because it's as natural as breathing, and I reckon it's the same all over Britain. I suppose it's quite funny when you really listen out for it in a conversation. All of a sudden you realise it's "f**kin this" and "f**kin that."

 

This reminds me of a funny bit in The Big Lebowski when The Stranger asks The Dude "do you have to use so many cuss words?" and The Dude responds, with a look of mild confusion, "what the f*ck you talkin about." lol.gif

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Straznicy

My opinion on swearing's probably a wee bit skewed being from Glasgow. Probably the only place on Earth where "c*nt" is used in place of "guy".

 

We add meaning and value to words - the words themselves are just catalysts. So in the context of swear words, they're only as "offensive" as society deems them to be. This renders it impossible to come onto any kind of consensus on what is acceptable. Waltz into a country club and slip out a wee "bollocks" and they'll probably be crucifying you before you've even finished saying it. On the other hand if you try articulating yourself in a conversation, avoiding swearing, you'll just be laughed at in some places.

 

Personally I'm never really conscious when I swear, if I say it I say it. I've been told I use "sh*te like that" as if it was punctuation, but I've just never noticed it. With that said, I do take note when someone swears excessively, and I agree with underscore, I think there is a point where it just shows any real depth of language, or just a desire to look like a badass. Society ought to respect swear words as powerful words when they're used openly, not offensive ones. In smaller circles, people can apply whatever meaning they want.

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JayM
Waltz into a country club and slip out a wee "bollocks" and they'll probably be crucifying you before you've even finished saying it. On the other hand if you try articulating yourself in a conversation, avoiding swearing, you'll just be laughed at in some places.

I think that's what it comes down to, the people your surrounded by when you swear because they decide how offensive it is. It's not black or white, swearing is used differently in many context's, sometimes 'acceptable' and sometimes not, but that's for the listener to decide. What I'm basically saying is that it's down to personal opinion.

 

I also agree that swear words used in the right way can have a positive effect and larger impact, for example in stand up comedy where it can make situations being described more humerous and make the comic's feelings come across that way too but used none stop it becomes apparent that the person doing it lacks the language skills to get their point heard and their feelings understood so instead they use swear words to do this. Although interestingly I was watching a programme featuring Stephen Fry and his 'guilty pleasures' and he said that people who say swearing displays a lack of vocabulary actually do themselves and he knows people who swear a lot who have a broader range of vocabulary and intelligence than the person condemning them for swearing.

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bobgtafan

When I'm around friends I breath out cuss words. When I'm around family I don't. When I'm around in public I don't. You speak differenfilly depending on your situation. Just like how you probably wouldn't start talking about how you f***ed a girl last night in the middle of mass. lol

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liam-aka-spidie

Today whilst with my parents and after going through a stressful ordeal with my local MP's staff I just thought WTF!. So there we were in the car when i simply said "You know what, this f#%king country is gonna go down the sh#t hole real soon. And when it does im simply going to tell gordon brown to f#@k off". Well they both looked at me and after having an arguement i tried to make them realise that they are simply words, a expression of emotion and situations. The word "happy" may have been deemed into a swear word but it wasnt. Well I lost the arguement along with my chances of a new motocross bike this year. I still told them to [email protected]#k off. lol.gif

 

 

I cant wait to get out of here, Im gunna go down in history. Maybe as a mass murderer or someone who punched the most respected member of the government in the face for the fun off it. biggrin.gif

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Today whilst with my parents and after going through a stressful ordeal with my local MP's staff I just thought WTF!. So there we were in the car when i simply said "You know what, this f#%king country is gonna go down the sh#t hole real soon. And when it does im simply going to tell gordon brown to f#@k off".

LOL!

 

I'd have got a smack in the face and the internet dis-connected if I said something like that to my folks! lol.gif

 

Personaly I'm not a big on swearing, I do on a fairly regular basis but not just for the sake of doing it. So I'll perhpas say f*ck or sh*t or whatever when I'm annoyed or around mates, but not in a regular conversation, it lowers the tone.

 

Then agian my parents are dead set agains swearing, especialy my Dad, can't say bloody, bugger or sh*t, let alone stronger words. Sometimes I can get away with "crap" though! sigh.gif

 

On the other hand if you try articulating yourself in a conversation, avoiding swearing, you'll just be laughed at in some places.

I get that with the sort of people who swear after every other word, where a sentance is generaly something like "So I was walking down the f*cking street last night, it was f*cking freezing, just really sh*tty, when I saw this huge c*nt walking towards me. Right hard looking bastard..."

etc etc, you can't really reply to anything they say without a degree of swearing or you'd standing out. My very middle class accent doesn't help matters either.

 

It all depends on situation, its probably not best to walk into a job interview and say "So, hows sh*t going?" for example. It shows lack of respect and doesn't really make you look smart or adult. You end up looking like a 13 year old who is trying to get one up on his parents by swearing all the time. sarcasm.gif

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liam-aka-spidie
Today whilst with my parents and after going through a stressful ordeal with my local MP's staff I just thought WTF!. So there we were in the car when i simply said "You know what, this f#%king country is gonna go down the sh#t hole real soon. And when it does im simply going to tell gordon brown to f#@k off".

LOL!

 

I'd have got a smack in the face and the internet dis-connected if I said something like that to my folks! lol.gif

 

Personaly I'm not a big on swearing, I do on a fairly regular basis but not just for the sake of doing it. So I'll perhpas say f*ck or sh*t or whatever when I'm annoyed or around mates, but not in a regular conversation, it lowers the tone.

 

Then agian my parents are dead set agains swearing, especialy my Dad, can't say bloody, bugger or sh*t, let alone stronger words. Sometimes I can get away with "crap" though! sigh.gif

 

On the other hand if you try articulating yourself in a conversation, avoiding swearing, you'll just be laughed at in some places.

I get that with the sort of people who swear after every other word, where a sentance is generaly something like "So I was walking down the f*cking street last night, it was f*cking freezing, just really sh*tty, when I saw this huge c*nt walking towards me. Right hard looking bastard..."

etc etc, you can't really reply to anything they say without a degree of swearing or you'd standing out. My very middle class accent doesn't help matters either.

 

It all depends on situation, its probably not best to walk into a job interview and say "So, hows sh*t going?" for example. It shows lack of respect and doesn't really make you look smart or adult. You end up looking like a 13 year old who is trying to get one up on his parents by swearing all the time. sarcasm.gif

Yeah I guess i should have but they must of thought about how I was feeling dontgetit.gif

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Ronnyboy

I see swearing as an excuse to blame something. We take words that have a bad meaning in society at one time or another and call them bad. So when your kid starts swearing, he is a bad influence on others and will have a bad vocabulary in life.

 

The fact is, it's part of our language and we should be able to use it. I can walk down the street of my town yelling out any word I want. Hell, I could yell out "sh*t! f*ck! Crap! c*nt! Twat! Bastard! Bitch!" and I have the right and ability to do so because it's freedom of speech and it's in our language. But at the same time I will probably get a ticket for public disturbance or some bull sh*t. But if I yelled out "Happy! Joyful! Cheery! Good! Loving!" no one would care. Why? Those are good words, not bad words, and I would fail to get in any trouble. It just doesn't seem right to me that this can happen. Even if I went to court for the first rampage, the judge would even disagree. Our own Judicial System, falling to a mind set of bad words. f*cking world I tell ya, falling to pieces.

 

I can get away with a lot of swears. Crap, sh*t, damn, and sometimes bitch get through with no problem. I don't do it often, but when I do, it's for a good god damn reason. Usually out of pain, forgetting something, or seeing something so amazing I automatically think of "Holy sh*t".

 

Where is George Carlin when you need him?

 

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stuart-88

I was never bought up to swear, neither of my parents swear, but I swear a fair bit. It's weird as half the time I don't realise I'm doing it, but when I go round there houses I can completely switch off swearing without any trouble. I don't see the big deal in swearing, they are just words. Kind of Off Topic but I have quite alot of black friends, they use the N word to each other, and they have no problem with me using it to them (don't worry, they have plenty of words for me!). Saying that I would never go up to a black person and call them it in conversation as I would see it as being dis-respectful to them. Just find it all a bit strange.

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John The Grudge

Often when conversation runs dry somebody breaths out a "f*ckin ell eh." Then somebody else will respon with "aye." lol.gif

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08LasVenturas

I swear mostly to pepper my conversations or get a point across easier. Although I don't see why it offends people so much. Hopefully the negative reaction to swearing will become a thing of the past.

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philster_12
I see swearing as an excuse to blame something. We take words that have a bad meaning in society at one time or another and call them bad. So when your kid starts swearing, he is a bad influence on others and will have a bad vocabulary in life.

 

The fact is, it's part of our language and we should be able to use it. I can walk down the street of my town yelling out any word I want. Hell, I could yell out "sh*t! f*ck! Crap! c*nt! Twat! Bastard! Bitch!" and I have the right and ability to do so because it's freedom of speech and it's in our language. But at the same time I will probably get a ticket for public disturbance or some bull sh*t. But if I yelled out "Happy! Joyful! Cheery! Good! Loving!" no one would care. Why? Those are good words, not bad words, and I would fail to get in any trouble. It just doesn't seem right to me that this can happen. Even if I went to court for the first rampage, the judge would even disagree. Our own Judicial System, falling to a mind set of bad words. f*cking world I tell ya, falling to pieces.

 

I can get away with a lot of swears. Crap, sh*t, damn, and sometimes bitch get through with no problem. I don't do it often, but when I do, it's for a good god damn reason. Usually out of pain, forgetting something, or seeing something so amazing I automatically think of "Holy sh*t".

 

Where is George Carlin when you need him?

 

yeha, me too i swear for sh*tty reasons

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blowdro420

to me swearing is like salt & pepper. it's just flavor for the dry mashed potatoes.

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Clem Fandango
I swear mostly to pepper my conversations or get a point across easier. Although I don't see why it offends people so much. Hopefully the negative reaction to swearing will become a thing of the past.

If no one was offended by it, it wouldn't get your point across better.

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Jackmackg

I am a non swearer. Speaking for my self if you use those words for there original meanings they don't come up that often at all.

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