9450392956 Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Today i installed original GTA 4 without patch and it was just like unplayable at around 5 FPS at lowest settings .Benchmark showed me CPU usage 60% RAM usage 61% and Graphic USAGE 60%. after installing patch 1.0.3.0 it even refuses to run and executes with an error TEXP70 eroor . I installed latest direct X and have updated video drivers. Please Help My system Intel core 2 duo E 7400 2.8GHz 3GB RAM 1024 MB of shared video ram Intel X4500HD Intel DG45ID motherboard Windows XP SP2 (registry tweak SP3) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikt Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Internal graphics cards suck. Buy a decent one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girish Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 What else would you expect with that config? Your best bet here is to get the actual SP3 and install any video driver updates that you can find. Post your benchmark results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikt Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 What else would you expect with that config? Your best bet here is to get the actual SP3 and install any video driver updates that you can find. Post your benchmark results. It won't help since it uses RAM as VRAM, and RAM is muuuch slower. (Try using your RAM by using -norestrictions (go past what you are able to)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benike1 Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 lol buy a graphics card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9450392956 Posted July 2, 2009 Author Share Posted July 2, 2009 I have reinstalled it but it is not playable Statistics Average FPS: 3.28 Duration: 9.15 sec CPU Usage: 65% System memory usage: 61% Video memory usage: 50% Graphics Settings Video Mode: 1024 x 768 (75 Hz) Texture Quality: High Render Quality: High View Distance: 32 Detail Distance: 63 Hardware Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3 Video Adapter: Intel® G45/G43 Express Chipset Video Driver version: 6.14.10.5002 Audio Adapter: IDT Audio1 Intel Pentium III Xeon processor Intel Pentium III Xeon processor File ID: benchmark.cli please help me guys i cant afford to buy a graphics card if any good card in your mind for budget please tell me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girish Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Drop down your resolution to 800x600 and you also might lower your texture quality and view distance to as low as possible. That's the only way I see that you might gain a few fps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murcchachosa Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Yeah, sh*t happens. When you bought/got the laptop? Intel Chipsets really suck donkeyballs. Every chipsets/GPU than nVidia/ATi are biggest sh*tholes. You better get new laptop with atleast nVidia GeForce 9500M GS or better nVidia GeForce 9600M GT. And decent CPU atleast 2.0GHz or P8400 or higher. I have the P8400 2.26GHz, 9600M GT, Vista x64 and can run all games with max or med/high. Mostley all games I played are high. I have a laptop that has Intel sh*t and can play SA barely on anything Low. So yeah, the best are the nVidia and the ATi. Other than these both, forget it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Standart Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Set this: View Distance: 1 Detail Distance: 1 Then I think it would be okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murcchachosa Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Set this:View Distance: 1 Detail Distance: 1 Then I think it would be okay. Nah, I think "set this: Res: 320x256 Vehicle: 0 LOL Detail: Remove anything ROFL View: Extremley 0, you see a big cloud Shadow: Off Textures: Extrem lpw (32x32 in jpg formats) Hmm, you will hit atleast 10FPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnZS Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 That laptop is geared more towards office work and productivity, Intel make great 2D chipsets but if you want to do anything gaming related, until Larrabee hits the shelves ATi and nVidia are the only way to go. As stated above a Core2Duo P8400 with a 9600M GT graphics combination should be good for medium details @ 720p (maybe a bit higher). Sorry 9450392956 but your Graphics chipset does not meet the minimum requirements to Run GTA IV You COULD try the latest Intel Graphics Drivers But I do not think they would do anything to help you John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafour Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 This is weird 60% RAM usage 61% and Graphic USAGE 60%. It not using your system at max? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Cheese_Man Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Get a real video card. Integrated cards are not meant for gaming. Unless you are using a laptop, then you are screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murcchachosa Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Get a real video card. Integrated cards are not meant for gaming. Unless you are using a laptop, then you are screwed. Some laptops are the same as desktop. No need too harm. You obviousley dont have experiences about laptop. All laptops wich contains Intel/VIA/SiS Mirage/Matrox are f*cked up. Any laptop with mid/high-end GPU's from nVidia/ATi are good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Cheese_Man Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Well this one is not the same. As you can see he is getting extremely low fps. My laptop had 20 fps in benchmark when I put on high textures. His can't even go above 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murcchachosa Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Well this one is not the same. As you can see he is getting extremely low fps. My laptop had 20 fps in benchmark when I put on high textures. His can't even go above 10. Yeah, exactley. But this game is not very well optimized. Be happy if its Medium:P Low Textures really looks like sh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyMhz Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Get a real video card. Integrated cards are not meant for gaming. Unless you are using a laptop, then you are screwed. Some laptops are the same as desktop. No need too harm. You obviousley dont have experiences about laptop. All laptops wich contains Intel/VIA/SiS Mirage/Matrox are f*cked up. Any laptop with mid/high-end GPU's from nVidia/ATi are good. To some extent. Yea a Intel Integrated graphics is terrible. GTAIV is a killer for laptops unless if you buy a gaming laptop. Also remember a 9600M GT is not equivelent to a 9600GT. A 9600M GT (Laptop) is more like a 8600 GT (Desktop). However some of the ATI cards are more near their desktop counterpart. I play GTAIV on my desktop only now, but my laptop in my sig played GTAIV on Medium pretty well with a higher resolution. But with your integrated graphics you should be happy the game even works. Turn your resolution to 800x600 and everything to lowest settings. Then whatever fps you get then you will have to live with, or buy a desktop or a new laptop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arski Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 (edited) i am on that guys side, because, what if you have been buying a expensive laptop, like he got, and then when he comes here, everyone's saying that buy new card, i am not sure that is it possible to change laptop graphics card, all hes money were get to that laptop, and it uses only 60% of hes system, i think we need to help him to get it to 90%, and why it founds your CPU as Xeon? if nothing doesnt work, you just need to lower the Draw Distances, 33 or what it was is too huge... try to change resolution little better and low down those details. E7400 at a laptop, must be been expensive. (My E7200 cost 120 € when i bought it.) Edited July 3, 2009 by Arski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9450392956 Posted July 3, 2009 Author Share Posted July 3, 2009 First of all thanks Its a desktop And my processor is E7400 2.8 GHz ok what about buying a 8500 GT or 8600 GT or an 9400 GT What performance would i expect And also please tell me Why this game is not utilizing my whole processor and graphics card if there is any tweak to get me this game atleast playable please help me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murcchachosa Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Lol, this makes sense now. Some desktop are sh*t Get atleast 8600GT or better 9600, thats all. 9400GT, forget it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arski Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 MAN! DO NOT BUY 9400GT I HAD IT AND ITS CRAP! (sorry from caps) Buy an ATI: HD4850/4830/4770/3870 or NVIDIA 8800GT/9600GT/GTS250 If you listen to me now, you will be happy the whole time you play GTA IV, trust me. if you get a worse than those, you gonna waste money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharmingCharlie Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 I personally wouldn't go any lower than a 9600gt, that should allow you to play on decent settings with decent frame rates. Anything below a 9600gt is just wasting money in my view. You would also get decent settings and speeds with an 8800 series card as well. People fall for Nvidia's con tricks too much these days the x400 or x500 series Nvidia cards are NOT gaming cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perfectpitch Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 I personally wouldn't go any lower than a 9600gt, that should allow you to play on decent settings with decent frame rates. Anything below a 9600gt is just wasting money in my view. You would also get decent settings and speeds with an 8800 series card as well. Actually - I have the 8800GTX 768Mb DDR3 OC2 card and I can run GTA on high textures and everything maxed with an average fps of 23... which isn't bad... technically when I put it on medium... I almost get the same fps... I personally think the 9600GT is worse than the highest end 8800 card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murcchachosa Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 I personally wouldn't go any lower than a 9600gt, that should allow you to play on decent settings with decent frame rates. Anything below a 9600gt is just wasting money in my view. You would also get decent settings and speeds with an 8800 series card as well. Actually - I have the 8800GTX 768Mb DDR3 OC2 card and I can run GTA on high textures and everything maxed with an average fps of 23... which isn't bad... technically when I put it on medium... I almost get the same fps... I personally think the 9600GT is worse than the highest end 8800 card. I think you talk sh*t. With medium settings my game hits 23FPS and the max FPS is 43. Benchmarked with FRAPS. And not 8800GTX but on 9600M GT. You are lil informed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shantam777 Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Well, it can be playable on an intergrated gfx card, I have Intel 965 GMA And after certain modifications I get nearly 15-20 fps, but well, this modifications really "KILL" the fun of the game, if you still wanna play it, PM me for files Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girish Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 I personally wouldn't go any lower than a 9600gt, that should allow you to play on decent settings with decent frame rates. Anything below a 9600gt is just wasting money in my view. You would also get decent settings and speeds with an 8800 series card as well. Actually - I have the 8800GTX 768Mb DDR3 OC2 card and I can run GTA on high textures and everything maxed with an average fps of 23... which isn't bad... technically when I put it on medium... I almost get the same fps... I personally think the 9600GT is worse than the highest end 8800 card. You're right. The 8800GTX is a better card than the 9600GT. People get confused because of the stupid numbering system that Nvidia has. The higher number does not necessarily mean that the card is better, Moreover, they even have GS, GT, GTS and GTX suffixes to confuse you further. This is where ATi scores. The higher the number, the better the card. Period. @Murcchachosa: There's not too much of a difference between the 9600M GT and the 9600GT. Overall, the 8800GTX is roughly 15% faster than the 9600GT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murcchachosa Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 15% faster. Im not changing my mind between these both. Im not a hardcore gamer. I only want to play games that I like, in this case GTA4. Medium settings and playable FPS are enough. I really enjoyed the fact I bought this laptop. And all games I tried, can startup and runs on medium.highest. Is not that enough? To me is that great. Im not comparing these numbers because Im not a prick who got confused with these numbers. x800 are hig-end, x600 are mid-range, x700 are great too. Hope you understand this, Im not like a beast who needs a überpc. Im very happy I didnt bought a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9450392956 Posted July 3, 2009 Author Share Posted July 3, 2009 Please help me guys dont talk about gfx cards please help me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaudevillian Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Well first off check your mobo to see if it has a PCIe slot in it, if not your SOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perfectpitch Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 15% faster.Im not changing my mind between these both. Im not a hardcore gamer. I only want to play games that I like, in this case GTA4. Medium settings and playable FPS are enough. I really enjoyed the fact I bought this laptop. And all games I tried, can startup and runs on medium.highest. Is not that enough? To me is that great. Im not comparing these numbers because Im not a prick who got confused with these numbers. x800 are hig-end, x600 are mid-range, x700 are great too. Hope you understand this, Im not like a beast who needs a überpc. Im very happy I didnt bought a mistake. And you still can't admit that you're wrong... Sad, sad man... Also , your english sucks arse... how old are you - 10??? Anyway in response to 945yadayada's problem... Integrated graphics cards usually suck arse compared to the monster beasts of NVidia and ATI... I think you've picked up a laptop that has enough 3D power to run standard business programs like Word, Publisher and do a bit of Rendering in Movie maker and stuff... but I doubt that it will ever play GTA IV... Sorry man... next time you might want to research the card, before you buy the laptop... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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