FullMetal Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Well at that age I'd just ignore the little kid and just hope some of his braincells magically start working. I kind of had/have the same situation. Was messing around with a girl (and I knew she had a boyfriend but we weren't doing anything too serious). We slept together but apart from cuddling/kissing we didn't do anything. We wake up, kiss goodbye and my day continued (hanging out with friends). Suddenly I get spammed with messages from her boyfriend that he's going to gut me/cut my head off/what I must've been thinking/I have to crawl to HIS place to apologise for what I've done. I just ignored it but days later he keeps on going on and on about it. Things starting to get annoying (he keeps on insisting that I should crawl over to his place and beg for mercy and apologise) and I want to beat the crap out of him (well, meet up with him). I tell that to my mate (who knows that guy really well) but he says I should just let him spam me and he'll stop. Eventually he but about one/two weeks later he starts sending messages again ('how much of a coward I am/how pathetic/how he's going to hunt me down and beat the crap out of me with 5 of his pals'). Problem is I haven't seen him come over (nor beat the crap out of my best friend since he also threatened to 'slaughter him'). I send back, confident, that I want to meet up with him and her so we can have a little chat. I already planned with my mates if the coward brings such a fighting force (which is obviously big talk) that they wait in neighbourhood in the car. I send the message... he 'is busy and cannot come'. I get even more pissed and send back 'All talk but no walk, and you call me a coward? Hypocrite'. Never heard anything from him ever since... still want to beat the living hell out of him. Tried calling/sent her a couple of messages to meet up sometime (and also to show him that I'm still around and haven't forgotten about him ) but it doesn't seem to have much effect. And now another two weeks later I hear jack sh*t from him. Just another coward. And I'm not the type that beats up people... but he just asked for it. If I see him, I'm going to talk to him at first and then start beating him. I don't care... such a prick needs to be dealt with. By the way: the guy was one year younger than me (and I'm eightteen). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanilla Shake Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Kick the c*nt in the balls. That should do the trick. TC718 / <629 / CF5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullet_Chris Posted July 2, 2009 Author Share Posted July 2, 2009 (edited) Kick the c*nt in the balls. That should do the trick. I actually thought of sticking my fingers in his eyes, spiting him in the face and then a good hercules punch in the face. Edit:I wouldnt mind him but he said that he will kick my ass.He actually thinks he can.I must have left that impression to him.But he will get hit when he'll expect the least. Edited July 2, 2009 by Bullet_Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyla Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Whack him with your bike chain. Or punch him in the throat, and see if he spits any more Give the lad a good talking to. You've already proved to yourself you don't need to react by slapping him around as your first port of call. Just warn him off and don't bother with him again - if he's younger than you, it shouldn't be too hard to do, and he can't exactly do anything because what proof will he have that you ''threatened'' him? You shouldn't let your best mate beat him, or else he'll just get into the sh*t that you don't want to be in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Just beat the sh*t out of him and you will be fine. That would bring me at his level. If he starts the fight I will kick his ass, if my friend starts the fight and he needs help I will participate. Why this topic if you know this already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJimmy Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Violence isn't the answer. But, of course, if you must - do it Brotherhood of Justice style. Wait til he's in a bathroom. When he's washing his hands, you walk in, turn on the hand dryer, beat the living sh*t out of him with another friend to help you and walk right out. Won't know what's coming to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swarz Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 4. Call the police. Because this is just the kind of 'Grade A' bullsh*t we love dealing with. --- AMF --- -= A joke is a very serious thing - Winston Churchill =- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffio Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 If I were you, I'd try to talk to him when he would be calm.. Try doing this.. I have never beaten a guy.. I have the strength to beat anyone who messes with me but i don't want to.. Something makes him to behave like this.. The best way is to have a conversation with him and solve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullet_Chris Posted July 2, 2009 Author Share Posted July 2, 2009 I have never dealt with this kind of situation ever, but there has to be a first time for everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickstar34 Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Dude, just forget about it, it's just some little punk trying to start sh*t with you, come on, it's a little kid, let it go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seachmall Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Kick his ass. You're what? 15? If you've never been in a fight before it's about time you got into one. At worst you'll walk away with a few cuts and bruises and maybe a black eye but that's much more preferable than getting into a fight at 20 and not knowing what to expect. When you're young you want to get into as many fights as possible because odds are no one is going to do serious damage, when you get older however things get a little bit more dangerous. Learn how to fight as a kid and hope you never have to use your skills when you're older. Some will say you should got to a class if you want to learn how to fight, those people have obviously never been in a fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John The Grudge Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 If he starts on you then you should defend yourself with maximum force. Until then though, just tell him to f**k off and pay him no mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fnorg Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Chris, your life sounds like a lame sitcom, and you're some Urkel-toughguy hybrid. Tell him to give it a rest, and tell him about the consequences if he doesn't listen. Then proceed to whatever kind of beating you want to. But don't hurt him for real, you don't want a 13-yearold being blind on one for the rest of his life because he was a douchebag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saggy Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Some will say you should got to a class if you want to learn how to fight, those people have obviously never been in a fight. I would say to go to a class to learn how to defend yourself, because hurting people and getting hurt by people in order to learn is a sh*tty requirement to learn something as simple as that. Being an effective fighter is far different than effectively defending yourself. Often the two don't even cross paths, and the best way to defend yourself is to not escalate the situation or just walk away from it. This isn't really a situation like that though, this comes down to simple adolescent quarreling over stupid sh*t, kind of how young males will challenge the alpha male of their pack. Instead teenage males kind of all act like alpha males waiting for someone to challenge them or seeking someone they see as worthy to challenge. In other terms, problem you're left with now is that this kid basically thinks you're a bitch, and he's going to continually test you to reaffirm his "position". It's a pretty delicate spot in most circumstances, but because of his age you've got it easy. All you really have to do is check him into place. What does that mean? Well, say he's going on about he'll get of his bike and punch you. Quickly dismount and shove him over on his bike; nothing makes you look like more of a bitch than trying to untangle yourself out of your bike. This does two things: It lets him know that you're not a "bitch", i.e. he can't constantly challenge you unchecked, but does not necessarily escalate to a fight. You might want to try something a little less hostile than the bike toss though, kids in my day just had a high temperament for that sort of thing--we were always rough housing. You might just want to shove him a little. In any case, the amount that you both get hurt will be very trivial, and it will cut out this bullsh*t in the future. Have you ever even seen a fight? You know how the two people often shove each other back and forth. That's sort of the same thing at work, and it will always end in confrontation. The question is whether it ends in a full on fight, or just a little scrap. Honestly, as much as everyone saying nonviolence is important, I believe it's equally as important to to make sure that people don't mistake your kindness as weakness. Don't fight him, but put him in his place; otherwise he'll put you in yours. QUOTE (K^2) ...not only is it legal for you to go around with a concealed penis, it requires absolutely no registration! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seachmall Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Some will say you should got to a class if you want to learn how to fight, those people have obviously never been in a fight. I would say to go to a class to learn how to defend yourself, because hurting people and getting hurt by people in order to learn is a sh*tty requirement to learn something as simple as that. While a class might help with stamina and it might show you how to throw a punch it's going to give you a false sense of security. The only real way to understand the mechanics of a street fight and understand the emotional change you undergo is to actually get into a street fight, and better do it when both parties are testosterone filled kids than when both are well built and mature men. If he does decide to go to a class it should be class that focuses on real-world defence, not a martial art. If there is nothing like that around boxing is probably the next best option. Stay away from martial-arts because high kicks are your enemy, so are fancy routines. And being punched while padded is nothing like being headbutted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickstar34 Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 It's a little kid, it's not even worth it, it would be different if he was your age, but otherwise don't resort to violence, that would just prove how immature you are. You don't need to "prove" your place with some little kid, just people your age trying to think their bad-ass, not some little twelve year old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breaking Bohan Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Why not just try to resolve this thing peacefully? Maybe youd feel better if you just gave this bad man a hug ... fighting will solve little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FullMetal Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 If he does decide to go to a class it should be class that focuses on real-world defence, not a martial art. If there is nothing like that around boxing is probably the next best option. Stay away from martial-arts because high kicks are your enemy, so are fancy routines. And being punched while padded is nothing like being headbutted. I don't want to sound rude but you obviously have never trained any martial art whatsoever. I did judo for eight years and we learned some interesting techniques to counter punches and such. Also; knowing how to use someone's own force against him is pretty valuable in a (fist)fight. But don't get me wrong. Not everything in judo is like that. Only 10% of what I have learned can be used in a 'real fight'. Though, it's a valuable 10%. I've also seen other martial arts and they have the same thing. And yes, Boxing or something similar is better if you want to use the techniques in a fight. Though, do NOT underestimate Martial Art Techniques... it's not a sport that's all about the name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seachmall Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 I did TKD and Karate for a few years and nothing I learned in either would be applicable in a fight. They're competitive sports, they assume your opponent knows how to fight (and is fighting a similar style to yours), will follow rules and won't take you to the ground. The exact opposite happens in a street fight. People throw windmills, gouge at your eyes and once they take a few hits to the face they're taking you to the ground. There's not enough distance between both parties to carry out any blocks or kicks, knees to the groin or kick to the shins are about as high as you're going to get that leg. The punches will work for the first 15 seconds before you find yourself grappling. Martial Art blocks don't work either because people don't throw a punch and wait for a response, they throw multiple punches and bum rush you at the same time. The closest thing I've seen that could help is "Bursting" in Krav Maga which prides itself on not being a martial art but a practical self defence system. Real fights aren't like the movies where the guys circle each other, throw some high kicks and run around for an hour. Most are over in less than a minute and that minute is a frantic free for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem Fandango Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 I would rape his mother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breaking Bohan Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Why not smack the guy around a little bit? Or you could get expelled from school ... or get stabbed by a biker gang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saggy Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 (edited) Some will say you should got to a class if you want to learn how to fight, those people have obviously never been in a fight. I would say to go to a class to learn how to defend yourself, because hurting people and getting hurt by people in order to learn is a sh*tty requirement to learn something as simple as that. While a class might help with stamina and it might show you how to throw a punch it's going to give you a false sense of security. The only real way to understand the mechanics of a street fight and understand the emotional change you undergo is to actually get into a street fight, and better do it when both parties are testosterone filled kids than when both are well built and mature men. If he does decide to go to a class it should be class that focuses on real-world defence, not a martial art. If there is nothing like that around boxing is probably the next best option. Stay away from martial-arts because high kicks are your enemy, so are fancy routines. And being punched while padded is nothing like being headbutted. I wasn't suggesting that he take it to learn how to fight, I was suggesting he learn it to know how to defend himself. If for example, he was trained in Judo, there mere training and muscle memory reactions would help him counter a punch, and take his opponent to the ground. At that point he can run away from his assailant, hold him in a submission, or incapacitate him. However, knowing Judo, does not prevent him from understanding that the simplest solution to a situation where he couldn't flee might be to just pick up a weapon, or resort to other non conventional methods. The benefit of classes is that you're training your muscles and reaction to give you an edge and an increased means to actually defend yourself; using classes to learn how to fight is useless beacuse the fight is not in the methods and tools, it is in the attitude and the emotions of the fighters themselves. Nothing can really prepare you for a down-right street fight, not even full contact sparring. If you're in a dark alley afraid for your life, that is very not akin to your class, your first move will probably be to run rather than stick and fight, and that would probably be for the best. On the other hand, if you cannot run or your instincts are different, knowing some basic techniques is certainly better than not. One doesn't really need to indulge themselves in the psychology of fighting to be successful. I just frankly don't really agree that it will give you a false sense of security. If you've never taken one of the classes, try it; you'll learn a lot of humility very quickly. Even in the end when you get some prowess, the only people that I see with some kind of false confidence about their abilities in a street fight were fools in the first place. In the end you're right, you'll definitely need to have some kind of experience in a real street scuffle somewhere down the line, but to argue that a great amount of this increases your chances of winning is a losing argument after a point. Street fighting has real repercussions, real injuries, and if you get too beat up, it's not going to make you any stronger. You can get the wind knocked out of you over and over in a class and just get better, but if you get stabbed in the lung in a street fight it's downhill from there. Anyway, harping on that subject a little too long. My bad. It's a little kid, it's not even worth it, it would be different if he was your age, but otherwise don't resort to violence, that would just prove how immature you are. You don't need to "prove" your place with some little kid, just people your age trying to think their bad-ass, not some little twelve year old. It's not necessarily proving his place as much as it is putting the little kid into his; not to mention the little kid is only two years younger than he is. Like I said, if he were the same age a shove off the bike would be in order, but that's just how we'd roll as kids; I wouldn't suggest you actually hurt him. Maybe slap the back of his head a little and make him realize he's barking up the wrong tree. Of course I'm still kind of wondering why the issue needs to be addressed any further, if I haven't already asked that. Why not just try to resolve this thing peacefully? Maybe youd feel better if you just gave this bad man a hug ... fighting will solve little. Why must things be so extreme? Do people see no scalability in violence anymore? I think to jump to the conclusion that he should totally beat the crap out of the kid is the far end of the scale, but giving him a hug realistically shouldn't be on there. Where the f*ck did you guys grow up? Happy go lucky land or something? Edited July 2, 2009 by SagaciousKJB QUOTE (K^2) ...not only is it legal for you to go around with a concealed penis, it requires absolutely no registration! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManArmy Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Seachmall, I need some help with fighting. I'm tired of getting bullied by all those bigger sized people. I'm not fat, but i'm not buffed either. Well, no, not really. But the bunch of chavs/street gangs in my schools are real c*nts and I just wanna know some tips in case I ever get in a fight with one of them. i don't mind a 1 on 1 fight, but bitches always feel stronger if their tiny balls are together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FullMetal Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 What do you mean with 'not fat but I'm not buffed either'? Skinny? Normal posture? A bit chubby? Suggestions for people who want to 'prepare for a fight just in case'. First of all do weight liftings (if you don't have that pushups would be nice). Search the net for some healthy techniques and do it daily. 12 times, rest and do it over again a couple of times. You build up ALOT of muscles in a month time if you do it once each two days. Resting is important... don't think that you can do more than 12 and go for the 20/30. You'll just mess up your muscles and hurt yourself (you can even cause permanent damage if you 'try to be the big man'). Also, 'cardio workouts' (running) can be good. You'll burn fat + stamina will improve alot. But I must admit: I have a rather 'muscly' posture though have too much fat. Started doing these workouts 2/3 months ago and already have some nice results (still have to start with the running but since it's Vacation I can start with that). Muscles are in better shape + I'm somewhat stronger now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seachmall Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 (edited) Seachmall, I need some help with fighting. I'm tired of getting bullied by all those bigger sized people. I'm not fat, but i'm not buffed either. Well, no, not really. But the bunch of chavs/street gangs in my schools are real c*nts and I just wanna know some tips in case I ever get in a fight with one of them. i don't mind a 1 on 1 fight, but bitches always feel stronger if their tiny balls are together. Don't bring a knife to a gun fight. The best advice I can give. Honestly just avoid them, you don't want to get into a fight with multiple guys or with someone who'll show up tomorrow with multiple guys. As fullmetal says do some weight training and do some cardio. You can be as buff as anything but if you don't have the stamina you're going down. @Sag, For self defence (i.e. you don't want to fight you just want to get the f*ck out of there) I still don't think traditional martial arts will help. How often have you been jumped and were prepared for the guys? You have to be prepared for multiple attacks and scenarios and I don't think any one MA will help because they all have their rules that are conditioned into you. Perhaps various MAs will be of benefit such as Kick Boxing, Wrestling and BJJ which will probably cover all physical aspects of a fight but you'd need to spend a lot of time to become proficient at them. One thing that they can provide, and that I over looked, is that they prepare you for the mindset of getting hit. Not necessarily the pain of being hit but the mentality of it. We've all experienced Sparring for the first time where you get hit in the face and suddenly you lose all composure. When people imagine a fight they'd be involved in they always overlook the fact that they can't take a punch to the face, as the old saying goes "Everyone has a gameplan till they get punched in the face". Edited July 2, 2009 by Seachmall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManArmy Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Well, i'm skinny and normal. No six packs, but I have a pretty decent body for a person who doesn't work out. How heavy should the weights be? Also Seachmall, guns is illegal in my country. It's almost impossible to get it unless you have contacts and that means you won't be a street gang. These are just a bunch of guys with sticks and sh*t but they're group is pretty big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seachmall Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Well, i'm skinny and normal. No six packs, but I have a pretty decent body for a person who doesn't work out. How heavy should the weights be? Google for beginner weightlifting to get your recommended weights, sets and reps. Take them as a guideline and start below their recommendation, weight lifting for building muscle isn't about lifting the heaviest weights, it's about lifting weights you're comfortable with for a set amount of reps and sets while slowly progressing. And don't burn yourself out either, 3 times a week MAX. I'd recommend you get some professional advice if you got a gym, don't be afraid to ask the instructor. Also Seachmall, guns is illegal in my country. It's almost impossible to get it unless you have contacts and that means you won't be a street gang. These are just a bunch of guys with sticks and sh*t but they're group is pretty big.I don't mean literally bring a gun to a knife fight, I mean don't start sh*t you can't handle and don't underestimate anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saggy Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 @Sag,For self defence (i.e. you don't want to fight you just want to get the f*ck out of there) I still don't think traditional martial arts will help. How often have you been jumped and were prepared for the guys? You have to be prepared for multiple attacks and scenarios and I don't think any one MA will help because they all have their rules that are conditioned into you. Perhaps various MAs will be of benefit such as Kick Boxing, Wrestling and BJJ which will probably cover all physical aspects of a fight but you'd need to spend a lot of time to become proficient at them. One thing that they can provide, and that I over looked, is that they prepare you for the mindset of getting hit. Not necessarily the pain of being hit but the mentality of it. We've all experienced Sparring for the first time where you get hit in the face and suddenly you lose all composure. When people imagine a fight they'd be involved in they always overlook the fact that they can't take a punch to the face, as the old saying goes "Everyone has a gameplan till they get punched in the face". Regulated fighting will never compare to street fight. Not to be rude, but you seem to be pretty misinformed about martial arts. First of all I kind of wonder what you mean about "traditional" martial arts. Do you mean to generalize things like Judo, karate, tae kwon doe, into one group or are you referring to martial arts that actually do have very strong traditions like karate? I have to agree that the latter form of traditional martial art does not really have much place in a street fight with the way that it is taught today and the time that it came from. Most dojos have people practice in very choreographed routines that are almost like dances, insisting that the basic motions of this will tune their muscles to being able to naturally react to attacks in a fight. Of course on the other hand, when one talks about the conditioning that Judo gives you, they're talking about retained muscle memory from real engagements. True that I have to agree that I think that the level of preparedness in this type of fight is a significant advantage, but in truth you're very rarely ever taken by complete surprise in a street fight either. Aside from martial arts, there are simple self-defense classes that don't conform to any structure of techniques you need to learn or anything of that sort, and really I think that most of these classes are based in a sense of realism more akin to modern street-fighting that the farmers of feudal Japan could not foresee when they created karate. You can't just group all martial arts and fighting systems together into one big hodgepodge, because some are very modernized and engineered specifically to what we're talking about here. Let me put it to you this way. The U.S. marines trains its soldiers in hand to hand combat. They don't just pit them together and say, "Duke it out, this will get you ready," beacuse they realize that they need a bit more of an advantage. Now, I'm not saying anyone needs the same level of advantage a soldier does, but it certainly doesn't hurt. I'm also not suggesting you'd get the real full contact, unprepared combat scenarios that they train under, but if you manage to find a business like that in operation I'm pretty sure that you'd certainly increase your chances of winning any street fight by learning from it. In the end I think you have the impression I'm saying that you can learn one MA and depend on it, but that is certainly not what I'm getting at. QUOTE (K^2) ...not only is it legal for you to go around with a concealed penis, it requires absolutely no registration! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John The Grudge Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 (edited) I think what Seachmall is saying, and I agree, is that martial arts training cannot prepare you for the tidal wave of emotions you'll experience in a real fight. Overcoming your natural instinct to flee is very difficult and something that can only really be learned the hard way. Edited July 2, 2009 by John The Grudge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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