Seachmall Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 so you believe in things like the Holocaust are good things Ladies and gentlemen I present to you A Straw Man. Giving people power over their lives is not the same as rounding 6 million Jews up and forcing them to die slowly. In fact it's quite the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Tequeli Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 if you see someone trying to commit suicide let them do it. This. Helps solve the population crisis as well. There is no population crisis. I believe in euthanasia but if you see someone trying to kill themselves because they hate their life or whatever, I think you should intervene or at least try to talk them out of it. I'm sure there have been suicidal people who have gone on to live normal lives. so you believe in things like the Holocaust are good things No, the holocaust wasn't euthanasia, it was genocide. But maybe you were talking about the Action T4 program, and that wasn't euthanasia either. People have the right to choose when they want to die, especially when they have been crippled to the point that life is no longer worth living, but I emphasize the personal choice. It's funny that both points of my three sentence statement are controversial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeperRed Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 I believe in the right to euthanasia if they are terminally ill. But if someones had say a sh*t month like wife leaves them, get fired etc and they go and commit suicide well then there c*nts because look at all the other people in the world in much worse conditions who just stick with it and make the best of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzzybones Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Bad things always happen to good people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
860 Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 But if someones had say a sh*t month like wife leaves them, get fired etc and they go and commit suicide well then there c*nts because look at all the other people in the world in much worse conditions who just stick with it and make the best of it. by that logic anyone who decides to take their own life if a c*nt because they have had a better life than little Billy presented here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swarz Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Never underestimate the danger of roads. It's amazing more people aren't killed, the number of folk that just walk out into the road without looking around. Makes my head spin, really does. --- AMF --- -= A joke is a very serious thing - Winston Churchill =- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seachmall Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 But if someones had say a sh*t month like wife leaves them, get fired etc and they go and commit suicide well then there c*nts because look at all the other people in the world in much worse conditions who just stick with it and make the best of it. Don't take offence from this but in my experience people who make those comments generally have no idea what they're talking about. It's a lot easier to judge people than understand them. Just because someone else has a sh*ttier life than you doesn't mean you have some moral obligation to live out yours, especially when at the end of the day it doesn't make a difference. You can't compare the people who've decided to kill themselves with those who haven't because nobody lives the same life and nobody has the same perspective on their own lives. To call them c*nt makes you an ignorant and judgemental prick. No offence, that's just how I feel and it's not an attack on you personally just that mentality. But hopefully you'll never have to learn what you're talking about because I doubt you could handle it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Standart Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Live with it, that's what you receive for trying to save the world. Sad about the old man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanilla Shake Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 How do you think that creeping reality impacts someone who always felt like less than nothing? But...that's how I feel. Never wanted to kill myself though. TC718 / <629 / CF5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem Fandango Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 But if someones had say a sh*t month like wife leaves them, get fired etc and they go and commit suicide well then there c*nts because look at all the other people in the world in much worse conditions who just stick with it and make the best of it. You should know the difference between clinical depression and being hungry (a physical sensation). Many people feel as though they have nothing to live for; they have a clinical condition where they lose the will to live. Extreme suffering (ie, extreme hunger, thirst) may not necessarily make you depressed. You can go through a lot of physical problems without becoming depressed, however, some psychological problems that don't seem like such a big deal in the scheme of things (feelings of inadequacy, loneliness etc.) can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuareg Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 I believe in the right to euthanasia if they are terminally ill. But if someones had say a sh*t month like wife leaves them, get fired etc and they go and commit suicide well then there c*nts because look at all the other people in the world in much worse conditions who just stick with it and make the best of it. So you mean people who commit suicide owe other people in a way who don't commit suicide in the same conditions? Because that's not exactly true. Everyone has their own lives to live, their own decisions to make. I don't support suicide at all, but anyone has the choice of doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeperRed Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Time for some explaining I see No I don't mean everyone I am talking of those who commit sucide over things such as low on cash, wife leaving them, getting fired those sort of knock downs in life you get. Its just a form of giving up, instead of using your time to battle agasint these issues you just go "ow f*ck it" and kill yourself. I am trying to say there are loads of people going through all of these issues and they don't go and commit sucide. Its different if say your only child dies then I see why they would want to commit sucide because there meaning in life is now gone if you get my understanding. Im not saying you should be as bad as a staving african child before you should commit sucide I am just saying. If its one of those things that happens to loads of oter people all over the world and you don't even try to battle it and instead commit sucide then your just a weak character . As said before support those who commit sucide because they are terminally ill and are suffering sever pain because there is nothing they can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seachmall Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 "I am trying to say there are loads of people going through all of these issues and they don't go and commit sucide. " Who gives a sh*t? Like I said not everyone has the same perspective on their life and you can't compare one person's actions to another's. They don't live the same life, they don't have the same view of their life and they don't have the same mentality. Most people who commit suicide don't do it as a result of one event, it's a series of events that leads up to it or it's just a lack of interest in life. They may not be depressed they may just not give a sh*t. You don't know everyone's position, you can't, so don't make narrow minded judgements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3niX Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Well... Most demographic charts show the population cresting at 9 billion and then staying there once the third world starts using birth control more frequently. Thats still 6 billion too many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Tequeli Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Well... Most demographic charts show the population cresting at 9 billion and then staying there once the third world starts using birth control more frequently. Thats still 6 billion too many. Don't worry, as technology improves the more sustainable our presence becomes. The Earth could theoretically sustain many more then 9 billion, and I suppose space is always a viable option. My main point is never look at death as a good thing. Less people is not some universal goal we should all strive for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 You commit Suicide, you can forget about Heaven too. Your soul is Auto-Damned. Just the other night, some lady in her middle ages, she was drunk driving and backed up over a biker in the crosswalk and proceeded to drag him for some time, he fell loose of his bike which was pinned and stuck under the car. The guy was so damn lucky, he mearly got scrapes and bruises, and joked about it, but this lady had 4 priors on her record. It's maddening that drunk drivers get their cars and licenses back. Take them away, give them a year without at least!!! They need to learn, and LEARN HARD!! FOOLS. We had a thread here on drunk driving some time ago, the replies were all very serious on the matter except for a few jokers. Kudos to those who know better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem Fandango Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 (edited) No I don't mean everyone I am talking of those who commit sucide over things such as low on cash, wife leaving them, getting fired those sort of knock downs in life you get. Your argument is essentially "most people live through it, so people who don't are weak". It overlooks perspective. For instance, if someone considers their job nothing more than a pay cheque, then no, they won't kill themselves if they get fired. However, if someones job is important to them, because they've wanted to do that job since they were five years old, they'll feel like they failed their life ambition should they be fired, and wouldn't bother living anymore. Or with your "wife leaving you" example: it depends on what else you have in your life. One guy might have a lot more than just his spouse, while another has a relatively poor one, with nothing good in it except his spouse. Out of the two, it's clear that one would kill themselves and one wouldn't. It's not fair to compare them. Edited July 3, 2009 by Melchior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 In God's book, it's not an option. Suicide could just negate life from day one. Life is precious, despite the mundane things and events Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem Fandango Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 You commit Suicide, you can forget about Heaven too. Your soul is Auto-Damned. Just the other night, some lady in her middle ages, she was drunk driving and backed up over a biker in the crosswalk and proceeded to drag him for some time, he fell loose of his bike which was pinned and stuck under the car. The guy was so damn lucky, he mearly got scrapes and bruises, and joked about it, but this lady had 4 priors on her record. It's maddening that drunk drivers get their cars and licenses back. Take them away, give them a year without at least!!! They need to learn, and LEARN HARD!! FOOLS. We had a thread here on drunk driving some time ago, the replies were all very serious on the matter except for a few jokers. Kudos to those who know better! I don't get it. You just ramble on about nothing even remotely relevant to the discussion at hand. What did any of that have to do with suicide? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gta-evo4 Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 This is sad. The man did what thought to be the right thing. I know these people are mentally unstable(depressed etc) and need serious help whatsoever, but at the same time they put other people at risk, thus I think they should just kill them self, the world is no disneyland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seachmall Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 I don't get it. You just ramble on about nothing even remotely relevant to the discussion at hand. What did any of that have to do with suicide? That's Slamman for ya In God's book, it's not an option. Suicide could just negate life from day one. Life is precious, despite the mundane things and eventsWell considering God put them in that position he can go f*ck himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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