Smiler-Online Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 (edited) Well, firstly I'll give you details on how to get the fix and then *Indepth* details on what its doing extra for me!. 1) Here's the link to get the utility: http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/attac...ver_1-1-.05.rar 2) the utility is to disable the TLB bug fix in Windows Vista SP1 and Windows 7 (I'm not too sure if it does anything for XP SP3 though) 3) run the 'TLB_Disable.exe' file 4) Make sure that you make a shortcut to the 'TLB_Disable.exe' in the startmenus 'startup' folder (to run it whenever you startup your computer) 5) now checkout your results!. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here's my settings: Game Version: v1.0.4.0 Clip Capture: Off Resolution: 1440x900 @ 60Hz AR: 16:10 TQ: High RR: Very High WQ: Very High SQ: Very High TFQ: Highest VD: 50 DD: 50 Vehicle: 50 SD: 16 Resource Usage: 1150/1754 CommandLine.txt: -availablevidmem 3.5 ------------------------------------------- Here's My hardware Config: CPU: Phenom Black Edition 9600 GPU: 4870 512Mb RAM: 4GB DDR2 HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F1 1TB OS: Windows 7 x64 (build 7100/RC) (if you want anymore details just ask and I will add them) --------------------------------------------- Here are the benchmarks: Without Using the utility: Statistics Average FPS: 13.82 Duration: 36.91 sec CPU Usage: 66% System memory usage: 73% Video memory usage: 52% Graphics Settings Video Mode: 1440 x 900 (60 Hz) Texture Quality: High Texture Filter Quality: Highest View Distance: 50 Detail Distance: 50 Hardware Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate Video Adapter: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series Video Driver version: 8.14.10.671 Audio Adapter: Speakers (SB Audigy) AMD Phenom 9600 Quad-Core Processor File ID: benchmark.cli When I am using the Utility: Statistics Average FPS: 29.63 Duration: 36.88 sec CPU Usage: 72% System memory usage: 74% Video memory usage: 53% Graphics Settings Video Mode: 1440 x 900 (60 Hz) Texture Quality: High Texture Filter Quality: Highest View Distance: 50 Detail Distance: 50 Hardware Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate Video Adapter: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series Video Driver version: 8.14.10.671 Audio Adapter: Speakers (SB Audigy) AMD Phenom 9600 Quad-Core Processor File ID: benchmark.cli --------------------------------------- anyway, Have fun with the good frame rates!. Edited June 22, 2009 by smiler_16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okei Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Resource Usage: 1150/1754 CommandLine.txt: -availablevidmem 3.5 How are you able to do that with a HD 4870 512mb without the game freezing every few seconds? I've got the same video card and when I use the -availablevidmem command the game is always freezing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowpope17 Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 (edited) I am finding it hard to believe that you would only get 13FPS with that rig. ok not the best, but you do have a quad (a pretty rubbish one)... but still a quad, and a 4870. But only 13fps?! @okei, playing on max works for me, but the textures refresh everytime you turn around. Edited June 22, 2009 by shadowpope17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nietzsche's God Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Yeah that does seem fishy. ^ How can you not at least get 30 or more fps with that rig? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler-Online Posted June 22, 2009 Author Share Posted June 22, 2009 (edited) Yeah that does seem fishy. ^ How can you not at least get 30 or more fps with that rig? Well, obviously GTAIV was poorly optimised, so I could never get 30fps @ max settings, although with this fix, in some areas I've seen upto 88fps! *EDIT* I got the 88fps at the very top (north) of island 3 by the old shutdown casino place looking out to sea. Edited June 22, 2009 by smiler_16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowpope17 Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Video memory usage: 53% Something Wrong here, your getting this ^ on a 512 card... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Standart Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 I dont understand those people who put max settings in games and play with 20fps and lags. I better put NORMAL settings to have smooth game. sorry for offtopic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler-Online Posted June 22, 2009 Author Share Posted June 22, 2009 Video memory usage: 53% Something Wrong here, your getting this ^ on a 512 card... no idea why that is by the way, but I thought that it annoys me when you see modified benchmarks on here, so I left it as it is (even though I'd probably think it looked fishy if someone else posted this lol ) *EDIT* @Standart its a benchmark, so everyone will obviously wanna see what it performs like @ max settings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowpope17 Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Video memory usage: 53% Something Wrong here, your getting this ^ on a 512 card... no idea why that is by the way, but I thought that it annoys me when you see modified benchmarks on here, so I left it as it is (even though I'd probably think it looked fishy if someone else posted this lol ) I would check those temps on that 4870. BTW do you think this would work with phenom II? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler-Online Posted June 22, 2009 Author Share Posted June 22, 2009 (edited) BTW do you think this would work with phenom II? I'm not sure since I haven't got one, but I would imagine that there is no harm in trying (or you could quickly google it!) *EDIT* Just thought I'd let everyone know I have all my hardware at default clock speeds. *UPDATE* I'm just uploading a video to Youtube showing you proof of my frame rate up the most northern point of island 3 going up from 50fps to 90fps! *UPDATE#2* its finished uploading now, now we're just waiting on Youtube to finish doing its thing... Edited June 22, 2009 by smiler_16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler-Online Posted June 22, 2009 Author Share Posted June 22, 2009 And here's the Videos link!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LQCI-UcCnI...re=channel_page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okei Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 man.. this is just snake oil. i have a phenom 9500 and i didn't feel any change whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler-Online Posted June 22, 2009 Author Share Posted June 22, 2009 (edited) man.. this is just snake oil. i have a phenom 9500 and i didn't feel any change whatsoever. what OS are you using? (and is it 32bit or 64bit?) *EDIT* You did launch the TLB_Disable.exe file didn't you? Edited June 22, 2009 by smiler_16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okei Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 xp prof. 32bit and yeah of course i did, im not an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafour Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Its quite normal to have lots of frames when nothings rendered.. I'm waiting for more replys with people testing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler-Online Posted June 22, 2009 Author Share Posted June 22, 2009 xp prof. 32bit and yeah of course i did, im not an idiot. like I said before though, I know it works in Vista SP1 and Windows 7 Build 7100/RC but I'm personally not sure whether it works in XP SP3... *EDIT* @DaFour but as you can see in that video, there is an extra 40fps from just Disabling the TLB fix! in that location (and thats even after Alt+tabbing out and back in!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler-Online Posted June 22, 2009 Author Share Posted June 22, 2009 (edited) its also helped massively in crysis (now I can play in DX10 with Max settings!) Edited June 23, 2009 by smiler_16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowpope17 Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 (edited) ok let me get this straight you have a hd 4870 512? then how the f*ck do you get Resource Usage: 1150/1754? edit: using your ram... i see Edited June 22, 2009 by shadowpope17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Riches Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 (edited) Trying it now (hehe installed CrystalDiskMark instead of CrystalMark by mistake!) Edited June 22, 2009 by Tim Riches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakerzmc Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 You wrong options use commandline -fullspecaudio -memrestrict 334572800 -DX9 /very high -availablevidmem 3.4 -norestrictions -percentvidmem 100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler-Online Posted June 23, 2009 Author Share Posted June 23, 2009 (edited) You wrong options use commandline -fullspecaudio -memrestrict 334572800 -DX9 /very high -availablevidmem 3.4 -norestrictions -percentvidmem 100 I ain't gonna use fullspec audio until I *permanently* get frame rates above 60. that DX9 thing makes no difference in GTAIV (that only works in Crysis - and warhead and wars obviously) the norestrictions is not required since the game thinks I have enough Video memory anyway (and if you used norestrictions alone and turned everything up full, you wouldn't like what you'll see, So I avoid NR completely) and PercentVidMem is no requirement either when I have GTA thinking that I have enough. anyways, I changed my CommandLine.txt yesterday to: -availablevidmem 2.0 (I only require that much memory to get the settings I want!) (I never have View Distance and Detail Distance above 50 - unless benchmarking - because there is not a big enough visual difference to justify the cost to the frame rates) Edited June 23, 2009 by smiler_16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlingShotUK Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Thanks for posting this mate. I have a Phenom 9950 and run Vista 32bit.. Will try this later and see if it helps. I have a Nvidia 8800GTX with 700mb ram (or whatever it is). With the new patch and this fix it would be ace if I can run the graphics in 'High'. I currently have them set to medium. Fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKT70 Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Thanks for posting this mate. I have a Phenom 9950 and run Vista 32bit.. Will try this later and see if it helps. I have a Nvidia 8800GTX with 700mb ram (or whatever it is). With the new patch and this fix it would be ace if I can run the graphics in 'High'. I currently have them set to medium. Fingers crossed. You do NOT need this, AMD fixed the TLB bug in all B3 stepping 9950 CPUs and above. And besides, the hit the Phenoms took when disabling this bug, either through this tool or a BIOS fix, was only around 10%, so I don't know where these so-called wonderful numbers are coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler-Online Posted June 23, 2009 Author Share Posted June 23, 2009 (edited) Thanks for posting this mate. I have a Phenom 9950 and run Vista 32bit.. Will try this later and see if it helps. I have a Nvidia 8800GTX with 700mb ram (or whatever it is). With the new patch and this fix it would be ace if I can run the graphics in 'High'. I currently have them set to medium. Fingers crossed. You do NOT need this, AMD fixed the TLB bug in all B3 stepping 9950 CPUs and above. And besides, the hit the Phenoms took when disabling this bug, either through this tool or a BIOS fix, was only around 10%, so I don't know where these so-called wonderful numbers are coming from. you have no idea what your talking about, because if you did then you'd know that the performance increase that I have gained by disabling the VistaSP1/Win7 built in fix has improved my performance by a huge margin!. Edited June 23, 2009 by smiler_16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKT70 Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Thanks for posting this mate. I have a Phenom 9950 and run Vista 32bit.. Will try this later and see if it helps. I have a Nvidia 8800GTX with 700mb ram (or whatever it is). With the new patch and this fix it would be ace if I can run the graphics in 'High'. I currently have them set to medium. Fingers crossed. You do NOT need this, AMD fixed the TLB bug in all B3 stepping 9950 CPUs and above. And besides, the hit the Phenoms took when disabling this bug, either through this tool or a BIOS fix, was only around 10%, so I don't know where these so-called wonderful numbers are coming from. you have no idea what your talking about, because if you did then you'd know that the performance increase that I have gained by disabling the VistaSP1/Win7 built in fix has improved my performance by a huge margin!. On the contrary, it's YOU who doesn't know what hes talking about. I've built many Phenom systems, and none of them saw huge losses with the TLB bug running, and disabling it didn't result in huge gains, either. You have something seriously wrong with your system if you gained that amount of fps by simply disabling that bug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler-Online Posted June 23, 2009 Author Share Posted June 23, 2009 Thanks for posting this mate. I have a Phenom 9950 and run Vista 32bit.. Will try this later and see if it helps. I have a Nvidia 8800GTX with 700mb ram (or whatever it is). With the new patch and this fix it would be ace if I can run the graphics in 'High'. I currently have them set to medium. Fingers crossed. You do NOT need this, AMD fixed the TLB bug in all B3 stepping 9950 CPUs and above. And besides, the hit the Phenoms took when disabling this bug, either through this tool or a BIOS fix, was only around 10%, so I don't know where these so-called wonderful numbers are coming from. you have no idea what your talking about, because if you did then you'd know that the performance increase that I have gained by disabling the VistaSP1/Win7 built in fix has improved my performance by a huge margin!. On the contrary, it's YOU who doesn't know what hes talking about. I've built many Phenom systems, and none of them saw huge losses with the TLB bug running, and disabling it didn't result in huge gains, either. You have something seriously wrong with your system if you gained that amount of fps by simply disabling that bug. I havent disable the bug I have disabled the bug *FIX*. and this bug fix disabling utility has even made Crysis playable in DX10 @ Very High settings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowpope17 Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Thanks for posting this mate. I have a Phenom 9950 and run Vista 32bit.. Will try this later and see if it helps. I have a Nvidia 8800GTX with 700mb ram (or whatever it is). With the new patch and this fix it would be ace if I can run the graphics in 'High'. I currently have them set to medium. Fingers crossed. You do NOT need this, AMD fixed the TLB bug in all B3 stepping 9950 CPUs and above. And besides, the hit the Phenoms took when disabling this bug, either through this tool or a BIOS fix, was only around 10%, so I don't know where these so-called wonderful numbers are coming from. you have no idea what your talking about, because if you did then you'd know that the performance increase that I have gained by disabling the VistaSP1/Win7 built in fix has improved my performance by a huge margin!. On the contrary, it's YOU who doesn't know what hes talking about. I've built many Phenom systems, and none of them saw huge losses with the TLB bug running, and disabling it didn't result in huge gains, either. You have something seriously wrong with your system if you gained that amount of fps by simply disabling that bug. I havent disable the bug I have disabled the bug *FIX*. and this bug fix disabling utility has even made Crysis playable in DX10 @ Very High settings You should be able to play Crysis at very high anyway. You have a 4870 And Crysis is not very cpu heavy, so it shouldnt have made much difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler-Online Posted June 23, 2009 Author Share Posted June 23, 2009 You should be able to play Crysis at very high anyway. You have a 4870And Crysis is not very cpu heavy. (thought I'd remove some of the quotes, its starting to get a little packed lol ) anyway, yeah, my overall performance was great in Crysis, but that was only in DX9 though, now with this CPU performance increase, I have finally got that extra bit more performance to help me to get over the top! (in DX10). now most of my "heavy" games that I have tested are finally playable!, the fix disabler has definately helped, and I'd reccomend anyone with a 9600 to use this (I haven't tried any other phenom CPUs so I cant comment on them) but I'm sure that the 9500 will also see improvements because the 95 and 96 are almost identical... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider-Vice Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 I got the 88fps at the very top (north) of island 3 by the old shutdown casino place looking out to sea. I have a 8500GT OC'd and I get that at the same place. No surprise. GTANet | Red Dead Network | black lives matter | stop Asian hate | trans lives = human lives the beginning is moments ago, the end is moments away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler-Online Posted June 23, 2009 Author Share Posted June 23, 2009 I got the 88fps at the very top (north) of island 3 by the old shutdown casino place looking out to sea. I have a 8500GT OC'd and I get that at the same place. No surprise. But as many people have said a million times before on these forums, IV is CPU dependant, your GPU doesn't really make much of a difference in IV compared to the CPU. and also bare in mind that I got 88fps with everything set @ max Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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