rubregg Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Scoring 100% at Wheelie Weave This is probably the most difficult thing in the game for me, and I'm getting the impression I'm not alone here: Could only manage a silver (99%) in 'Wheelie Weave'. Can't shake off that darn 1% damage penalty. Got it after about 500 attempts, this one is a real frustrating task, makes you tear your hairs off (I will be grateful to anybody who has any surefire tips for this hard mission) Girish and laezy are singing my song exactly, so if anyone has good tips for this one (without the use of any cheats), please let's hear them. Here's how I approach this test: I'm steering a bit to the right on reaching the top of the ramp On hitting the ground after the ramp I'm braking and steering a bit to the left I find that I can balance the car on 2 wheels easier when going at slow speeds ...but I have no clue on how to consistently avoid these 1 or 2 % damage penalty... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/414911-wheelie-weave-100/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
cacarla Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Here's how I approach this test: I'm steering a bit to the right on reaching the top of the ramp On hitting the ground after the ramp I'm braking and steering a bit to the left That is exactly how i do it, Rubregg. I too don't get a perfect score on that. I always tap the accelerator while navigating to the right to maintain the slant position. I usually go way out of the red marker or i hit the ground just inches before i approach finish line but sometimes i get 100%. I think tapping the accelerator and steering right might help. I think Zoom has a good idea for this. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/414911-wheelie-weave-100/?do=findComment&comment=1059294320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girish Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 ...but I have no clue on how to consistently avoid these 1 or 2 % damage penalty... I'm starting to believe that you need more luck than skill to avoid that damage. I did manage to get 100% during that SnP, but my game crashed and I had to do it all over again. Attempting Wheelie Weave, I have noticed discrepancies in the methods I have used to get that gold. It has never been one single technique that worked everytime like on the other tests. Here are my tries: • Steer slightly to the left and don't let go of the accelerator. But don't forget to brake well before the red marker so that the car stops exactly inside it. • Steer slightly to the left and start tapping the accelerator till I reach the red marker. • The above method might not always work so you might need to gain some momentum first. Steer to the left, accelerate a bit and then start tapping until you reach the marker. I have also noticed that there seems to be some non-uniformity on the surface of the ground that causes the car to jerk and get damaged. Not really sure if that's the reason though. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/414911-wheelie-weave-100/?do=findComment&comment=1059294358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
laezy Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 (edited) I have a feeling that the "luck" factor plays a heavy role in this test. I have achieved the 100% for both Position & Heading parts on numerous instances only to lose out on that irritating 1% damage. One more baffling thing about the test is that, many a times the game rewards a "Two wheels bonus" and slaps a penalty for damage at the same time. This tip from OrionSR about Keeping the Frame Limiter on for lesser damage is also helpful sometimes. Edited June 17, 2009 by laezy VASSILY 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/414911-wheelie-weave-100/?do=findComment&comment=1059294366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
!!GC!! Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 (edited) Yeah, that is all that i do on it too. Dont know what else to do. I dont usually have too much trouble on it, though. It usually takes about 3 goes, possibly 4 and i can get 100% fine. That includes the usual, and obvious, 2 attempts just to get used to the handling of the car. Then probably 2 more just to perfect the technique and get it. I think a very big part of getting it right is steering away from the ramp just after you hit it. Otherwise, it is just impossible. But, i see you are already doing that Also, rubregg, i dont suggest going at slow speeds on this test because the deviation in the car while you are trying to control it (transversely) will be too much. Because, when going at a slower speed, you'll take a longer period of time to get to the finish, so you'll have to be controlling it on 2 wheels for longer. If you get to the finish and you are controlling it well, you'll need to steer to the right again to get it to fall down, while braking. Or, if you can do as i have done twice (and saw Steve Crook do once), and keep it standing on two wheels when you come to a stop, thats perfect. I usually get 100% if i an do that. @laezy: I dont think it matters how much damage you do during a 'Two Wheels Bonus' attempt, you just have to have two wheels touching the ground for a minimum of two seconds. Edited June 17, 2009 by !!GameCH33TA!! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/414911-wheelie-weave-100/?do=findComment&comment=1059294372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil weasel Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 i'm in for the LUCK bit. No steeering to the right at all after it leaves the ramp. That just pust the wheels on the ground for me. I just keep at it. Trying different approaches on the ramp. Eventually pass and once in a while score that 100%. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/414911-wheelie-weave-100/?do=findComment&comment=1059294376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickstar34 Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 (edited) not for me, Burn N Lap is. Wheelie Weave was probably the fifth hardest behind (backward order is for me) "Ally-oop", "The 90", the taxi cab one, Pit Mineuver, Burn N Lap. No luck factor, I always get %100 on everything besides "Burn N Lap" before I even complete Yay Ka Boom Boom, I got rubregg to get Burn N Lap done for me. now all Gold on Driving School. So there is no Luck stat involved. Edited June 17, 2009 by trickstar34 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/414911-wheelie-weave-100/?do=findComment&comment=1059294383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flesh-n-Bone Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Wheelie Weave took me only a couple of tries to get gold on. Alley Loop on the other hand is the hardest test in any of the schools I have ever done. For Wheelie Weave, I don't think I did anything different in comparison to this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c6MKdeEil4 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/414911-wheelie-weave-100/?do=findComment&comment=1059294389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil weasel Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 (edited) Cute Video, but... can't learn anything from it. (response to other posting: I play with the Frame Limiter ON.) Edited June 17, 2009 by lil weasel Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/414911-wheelie-weave-100/?do=findComment&comment=1059294401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girish Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 This tip from OrionSR about Keeping the Frame Limiter on for lesser damage is also helpful sometimes. Now that sounds like a plan. It didn't occur to me that the Frame Limiter would be an issue worth considering. I should try it out sometime. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/414911-wheelie-weave-100/?do=findComment&comment=1059294403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickstar34 Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 This tip from OrionSR about Keeping the Frame Limiter on for lesser damage is also helpful sometimes. Now that sounds like a plan. It didn't occur to me that the Frame Limiter would be an issue worth considering. I should try it out sometime. I think it might have something to do with it aswell, because I have sh*tty SiS 760 graphics card so I have worse than 25 fps, so that could be why I did it so easily. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/414911-wheelie-weave-100/?do=findComment&comment=1059294434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zmoonchild Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 I agree that the Wheelie Weave was the hardest to master at first, but I can get Gold in just a few tries now, sometimes I can get it on the first try... sorry for bragging. My technique: I do a little turn off of the ramp, similar to rubregg's technique, then I let the Banshee ride on it's side (not on the wheels), and I let it glide slowly along, not that fast (unless I'm too far away from the marker, then I'll speed up). On my newer PC I have to leave the leave the Frame Limiter on for the 180 test and the Burn and Lap test; I can’t do handbrake turns that well with it off; so I usually just leave it on for all tests, including Wheelie Weave… I think it does help. My technique actually works so well that several times I can get Gold while the Banshee will still be on it's side (on 2 wheels); it never lands on all 4 wheels. Here's one of my older videos: Sorry, but in that video it landed on all four wheels. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/414911-wheelie-weave-100/?do=findComment&comment=1059294472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hetment Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 (edited) : I agree 100% with all your guys tricks but the main factor i also noticed in wheelie waeve is sometime sframe limiter on and guys wheelie wave sometimes really depends on luck.... that 1% damage occurs becaus eof little sparks damage . But aftert reading your guys solutions i must say that some tricks exits but luck is also introduced in them and Trickstar alley oop is not difficultest... i have got gold in one snp in alley oops...... Really guys wheelie wave is difficult but not yet impossible to make it gold....... All it needs in constant luck and practise with tricks \ EDIT- I just tried wheelie waves in one of my saves..... Yeah i can't make it 100% too....... its really pain in ass job ... ONE MORE EDIT--- Maybe moon or anyone of us should upload a file with wheelie wave 100% save for both v1 and v2 .... What you think? Edited June 17, 2009 by hetment Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/414911-wheelie-weave-100/?do=findComment&comment=1059294479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil weasel Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Zmoon's video shows sparks from the body, but scores 100% 100%, no damage, 100% Can't figure that one out ?? so it has to be random 'luck' in the program. Has anyone taken it apart to see what it caluculates? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/414911-wheelie-weave-100/?do=findComment&comment=1059295016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hetment Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 from sparks damage i meant when you are about to jump sometime syou crash little and in 2 wheel position too... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/414911-wheelie-weave-100/?do=findComment&comment=1059295033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickstar34 Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Zmoon's video shows sparks from the body, but scores 100% 100%, no damage, 100% Can't figure that one out ?? so it has to be random 'luck' in the program. Has anyone taken it apart to see what it caluculates? The reason is is that the car didn't bump, indicating it was damaged. It's kind of a hard concept to understand, but you'll get it after a while. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/414911-wheelie-weave-100/?do=findComment&comment=1059295163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil weasel Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Can fully understand the idea of bumping as opposed to merely sanding the paint off the side with the ground. Just seems a little silly. thank you, Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/414911-wheelie-weave-100/?do=findComment&comment=1059295179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zmoonchild Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 I went ahead and created a new video showing several attempts at getting 100% Gold in the Wheelie Weave test. For this video, I simply started the game and went to the Driving School; the next test was the Wheelie Weave test. I did the test over and over just in case there’s something in the video that may help someone in getting 100%. I even showed all of the failed attempts. There are no edits in the video at all; I simply recorded it, and uploaded it. By the end of the video I had gotten an 100% for the Wheelie Weave four times in less than four minutes. NO CHEATS and no mods were used. This is a completely legitimate game. PC Version 1.0 Frame Limiter ON Video link: Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/414911-wheelie-weave-100/?do=findComment&comment=1059295593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cacarla Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 What happened to Zoom on his 3 and 4th attempts in the video is exactly what happens to me most of the time. The car just cannot withstand a slight deviation to the left and it lands back on 2 wheels. Great video Zoom! You've showed all the possible outcomes while attempting that test. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/414911-wheelie-weave-100/?do=findComment&comment=1059296236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubregg Posted June 18, 2009 Author Share Posted June 18, 2009 Been busy yesterday, so let me finally thank everyone for their input. In case I didn't bring that across - I have hardly any problems getting to the goal marker on 2 wheels, my only problem are these sodding 1 or 2 % damage. So I had a little try with the suggested setting of frame rate limiter on and that seemed to improve things a lot. Took me under 10 tries to get the gold this time and it looked as if the average damage my car took was distinctly lower than with frame rate limiter off (the way I've usually been doing it). visible sparks ...don't seem to have anything to do with it. I've done 100% even though I slided on the side and there were sparks. And I've done runs without any sparks and still had damage. speed For me driving slowly makes it a lot easier to keep the car on 2 wheels (I've had gold runs in almost-slow-motion). If the car falls back you steer left to keep it on 2 wheels - braking helps with that. If the car falls too much onto its side you steer right, and accelerating helps with this. [off-topic]Similarly, in Alley-Oop you can stabilize your car if before braking you first accelerate a bit upon landing.[/off-topic] to sum up For me the tip about having the frame rate limiter = on for this test helped best. Thanks laezy! @Zoom Thanks for the video, that should be helpful! All the failed tries looked highly familiar - how I hate it when I make it without damage only to get 1% subtracted on position or heading for a change... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/414911-wheelie-weave-100/?do=findComment&comment=1059296731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hetment Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Well its still teh hardest thing in GTA sa Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/414911-wheelie-weave-100/?do=findComment&comment=1059296755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cacarla Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Well its still teh hardest thing in GTA sa Well, How about playing 'Stowaway' or 'Monster' with full lags on your system ? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/414911-wheelie-weave-100/?do=findComment&comment=1059296776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hetment Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 i can't do that because my pc runs gta sa non highest settings with no laggs abnd a edit- I do these missions with no problems Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/414911-wheelie-weave-100/?do=findComment&comment=1059296779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickstar34 Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Well its still teh hardest thing in GTA sa Well, How about playing 'Stowaway' or 'Monster' with full lags on your system ? I have to ask for help, thank you girishb. Every other mission but End of the Line is fine (got problem when you first get in the car, the truck has gotten away. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/414911-wheelie-weave-100/?do=findComment&comment=1059296917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubregg Posted June 18, 2009 Author Share Posted June 18, 2009 (edited) cough....off-topic....cough.... @trickstar34 Your reply has nothing to do with this topic, it has nothing to do with your quote and you're not even addressing the people you quoted. Stop spamming already. Edited June 18, 2009 by rubregg Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/414911-wheelie-weave-100/?do=findComment&comment=1059297118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickstar34 Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 He was saying something about lag problems and I just said I have lag problems and I had girishb help me with those missions. Anyway staying on-topic I got it %100 in every playthrough. Took a couple tries, but I don't have problems with it. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/414911-wheelie-weave-100/?do=findComment&comment=1059297244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
laezy Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 For me the tip about having the frame rate limiter = on for this test helped best. Thanks laezy! OrionSR deserves the credit more than me & at the same time a thousand thanks to you for starting this wonderful topic which had great helpful inputs from the Pros of the game like Zmoonchild. This test looks like a cakewalk now for newbies like me Here are some cookies for Rubregg from my side Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/414911-wheelie-weave-100/?do=findComment&comment=1059297268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickstar34 Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 zmoonchild is probably the best GTA SA player I ever seen, do you play GTA 4? When I get it I would like to play multiplayer with him Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/414911-wheelie-weave-100/?do=findComment&comment=1059297293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubregg Posted June 19, 2009 Author Share Posted June 19, 2009 For me the tip about having the frame rate limiter = on for this test helped best. Thanks laezy! OrionSR deserves the credit more than me & at the same time a thousand thanks to you for starting this wonderful topic which had great helpful inputs from the Pros of the game like Zmoonchild. This test looks like a cakewalk now for newbies like me Hehe, now that I think of it, funny how things can go around in circles. iirc, one of the very very few tips I could ever give to OrionSR was switching the Frame Rate Limiter on for swimming... Apparently he followed up with some research into that whole thing. As for the Wheelie, I just tried again in an SnP that was conveniently posted. (As things go I first forgot to switch the frame rate limiter on, and still made it in the 1st try this time. Last couple of efforts took me at least 50 tries before I had it, oh well.) With frame rate limiter on things went pretty much like for Zoom in his video, I easily got 4 or 5 100% runs within a couple of minutes. Yay!! Seems that frame-rate-limiter-ON thing is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks everyone for their help, we now have a fine selection of tips for this mission in here. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/414911-wheelie-weave-100/?do=findComment&comment=1059299616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zmoonchild Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 I’m glad you were able to pass the Wheelie Weave more easily. It should also be noted that you can expect different results on different PC’s with the Frame Limiter OFF. I have two different PC’s with different processors and different video cards, and San Andreas has a very noticeable difference in gameplay between the two of them with the Frame Limiter OFF; but with the Frame Limiter ON, both PC’s are pretty much identical in gameplay; they become standardized. As an example: on my newer PC, I have a very difficult time making handbrake turns, so I must leave the Frame Limiter On during the 180 test, and the Burn and Lap test; and the 360 test is also incredibly hard to pass on my newer PC, but on my older PC, there are no issues that keep me from turning it off during Driving School. Also, GTA_Phreak is someone who’s helped me with Frame Limiter issues; he deserves a lot of credit too. And don’t worry about me having San Andreas installed on two different PC’s, I purchased and still own three legit copies of San Andreas, so technically I can still install it on at least one more PC. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/414911-wheelie-weave-100/?do=findComment&comment=1059299701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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