ZayDaGawd Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 He was a cool character. Sure he doesnt put up much of a fight in his "last mission" but he was still a strong and powerful character. I was just thinking during one of Dwaynes cutscenes when he said he owned all of bohan and pretty much all of north algoquin. But when he got locked up, Playboy took over and he made their empire twice as powerful at the very leaset. Not only that but he got into real estate and owned a strip club(not fully owned but still.) He controls the drug trade in north algoquin and has a nice house,car and all the stuff you want. Hell he even gives Niko a fancy ass phone like it's nothing. IMO, people let their hatred for street thugs get in their way. Playboy was a well written character and one of the smartest and more sadistic characters in the series. If the mafia would've never got into his real estate plans, he would've been a top gangster in Liberty City, seeing as how he already ran bohan and north algoquin. I just don't see where all the hate is coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_bungle Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 For me, he was a cocky up-himself asshole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 For me, he was a cocky up-himself asshole. Yep. His arrogance pissed me off to no end. I liked Dwayne way more. Atleast he wasn't full of himself, which to me made him more likeable out of the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsMarke Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 IMO, people let their hatred for street thugs get in their way. Playboy was a well written character and one of the smartest and more sadistic characters in the series. Playboy wasn't smart at all. He thought Dubai was in Africa and that Jesus killed John the Baptist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGMOS Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 I only killed him to acquire his penthouse, I have no hate for him. If I coulda got the penthouse or a similar one for killing Dwayne I woulda killed him instead, he always bugs you to go do stuff with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZayDaGawd Posted June 17, 2009 Author Share Posted June 17, 2009 IMO, people let their hatred for street thugs get in their way. Playboy was a well written character and one of the smartest and more sadistic characters in the series. Playboy wasn't smart at all. He thought Dubai was in Africa and that Jesus killed John the Baptist. There's a difference between being smart, and being uneducated. Im willing to bet if someone came up to 90% of the people on this forum and told them that Dubai is in Africa, they would believe him. IMO, I doubt you knew where Dubai was until Niko corrected playboy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrixone Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Yea, i like when he is saying money But who cares, i want his apartment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 (edited) Well I must be in the other 10%, because I always knew Dubai was an Arab city before PBX mentioned it in GTA IV as being in Africa. Edited June 17, 2009 by Miamivicecity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZayDaGawd Posted June 17, 2009 Author Share Posted June 17, 2009 Well I must be in the other 10%, because I always knew Dubai was an Arab city before PBX mentioned it in GTA IV as being in Africa. Was your comment really necesarry? I didn't ask people whether they knew where it was or not. You're acting like I insulted your intelligence or something. And me and you both know that most people probably didn't even know what Dubai was before playing GTA4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 (edited) Well I must be in the other 10%, because I always knew Dubai was an Arab city before PBX mentioned it in GTA IV as being in Africa. Was your comment really necesarry? I didn't ask people whether they knew where it was or not. You're acting like I insulted your intelligence or something. And me and you both know that most people probably didn't even know what Dubai was before playing GTA4. Maybe, but that's getting a bit off track from what the thread is about. Anyway getting back on topic. I probably would have liked PBX if I got to know him better. On the surface he was just another stereotyped street gangster that thought he was top sh*t. Edited June 17, 2009 by Miamivicecity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZayDaGawd Posted June 17, 2009 Author Share Posted June 17, 2009 Well I must be in the other 10%, because I always knew Dubai was an Arab city before PBX mentioned it in GTA IV as being in Africa. Was your comment really necesarry? I didn't ask people whether they knew where it was or not. You're acting like I insulted your intelligence or something. And me and you both know that most people probably didn't even know what Dubai was before playing GTA4. Maybe, but that's getting a bit off track from what the thread is about. Anyway getting back on topic. I probably would have liked PBX if I got to know him better. On the surface he was just another stereotyped street gangster that thought he was top sh*t. True, but that's why I liked him. A stereotypical gangster that actually was smart. If you want a true stereotypical gangster, look at Sweet or Ryder. People like Big Smoke and Playboy actually managed to build empires. I mean seriously, he wasn't even 30 years old and already ran a borough in LC(Bohan), ran North Algoquin, and got into real estate. I think people just assume he was a worthless gangbanger who probably made less than minimum wage and wouldnt be able to play with the big boys, when in fact, that's far from the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaWJ Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 now that you mention it, playboy was a pretty cool character. however i couldn't stand his cockiness and dwayne was more likable since he was being depressed and needed a hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLovin2404 Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Im willing to bet if someone came up to 90% of the people on this forum and told them that Dubai is in Africa, they would believe him. IMO, I doubt you knew where Dubai was until Niko corrected playboy. Can you back that up please since you mentioned it? I'm also with Miami, I'm with the 10% that knew where Dubai is. Back on topic, I chose to kill Playboy for his mansion. And the conversations between Dwayne and Niko during their cutscenes in IV made me favour Dwayne more than Playboy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capricornus Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Well I must be in the other 10%, because I always knew Dubai was an Arab city before PBX mentioned it in GTA IV as being in Africa. Was your comment really necesarry? I didn't ask people whether they knew where it was or not. You're acting like I insulted your intelligence or something. And me and you both know that most people probably didn't even know what Dubai was before playing GTA4. Well, for one, I been knew where Dubai was, being that I am majoring in International Business and have been studying places outside of the USA for years. Second, I think you getting a bit offended by this. It's a game and that's it, so stop taking it so seriously. And a lot of people hated Playboy because he was a cocky S.O.B. On top of that, he betrays you in a way and reveals how he really felt about you once you visit him instead of Dwayne. In the trailers before GTA IV's release. mostly everybody got a good vibe from PBX and like him a lo for being a cool character. Once people found out how cocky he was, they started to dislike him. Even after killing him, I personally still like him. And you may be giving him too much credit. He was smart to certain extents but there are plenty of other characters in the GTA universe that make him look like an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 True, but that's why I liked him. A stereotypical gangster that actually was smart. If you want a true stereotypical gangster, look at Sweet or Ryder. People like Big Smoke and Playboy actually managed to build empires. I mean seriously, he wasn't even 30 years old and already ran a borough in LC(Bohan), ran North Algoquin, and got into real estate. I think people just assume he was a worthless gangbanger who probably made less than minimum wage and wouldnt be able to play with the big boys, when in fact, that's far from the truth. I can respect the fact that he ran an empire at such a young age, but that isn't my gripe with him. His attitude is just really annoying IMO. Which is why I said if I got to know a bit better (like having him as a friend) I probably would've liked him. In the entire time Niko worked for him I couldn't wait for his missions to end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZayDaGawd Posted June 17, 2009 Author Share Posted June 17, 2009 (edited) True, but that's why I liked him. A stereotypical gangster that actually was smart. If you want a true stereotypical gangster, look at Sweet or Ryder. People like Big Smoke and Playboy actually managed to build empires. I mean seriously, he wasn't even 30 years old and already ran a borough in LC(Bohan), ran North Algoquin, and got into real estate. I think people just assume he was a worthless gangbanger who probably made less than minimum wage and wouldnt be able to play with the big boys, when in fact, that's far from the truth. I can respect the fact that he ran an empire at such a young age, but that isn't my gripe with him. His attitude is just really annoying IMO. Which is why I said if I got to know a bit better (like having him as a friend) I probably would've liked him. In the entire time Niko worked for him I couldn't wait for his missions to end. I see where you guys are coming from and the Dubai comment was a bit out of place, and it's true that Playboy wasnt nowhere near the smartest criminal in the GTA world, but when it comes to the 'ghetto gangsters' in the GTA series, Playboy is on top. I just like how they didnt make him some wannabee thug who smokes weed all day and only owns a nine milimeter. On a sidenote, why do people call his place a mansion? And come to think of it, it would've been cool if one of the DLC's was having us play during the height of Dwaynes Power. Maybe we couldve worked for him and see how powerful he was, how he managed to keep his power and how Playboy acted while still being the 'righthand'. Maybe we could've saw Elizabeta coming into the game and possibly Packie as well. Edited June 17, 2009 by ps2_master94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Quench Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 I only killed him to acquire his penthouse, I have no hate for him. If I coulda got the penthouse or a similar one for killing Dwayne I woulda killed him instead, he always bugs you to go do stuff with him. Agree'd. Kid had a nice jacket, but its w/e. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergi Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 I don't see how anyone could really like or dislike Playboy X. He was a character that had no real pressence in the game and that goes along with basically every other character that could have been interesting. We interacted with him for what 5 missions in all including his 2 or 3 missions and the Elizabeta mission. He was just that cocky arrogant guy who thought he had the world by it's balls. R* just made horrible decisions with characters in IV imo and none really stood out like past GTA characters. Playoby X was far from a dummy. As other have sad he ran a large scale empire, was powerful and was not you traditional "hood" drug dealer. That was Dwayne. Playoby wanted to actually expand his horizons and become more powerful. He was thinking with his mind while Dwayne was still living in that 90s era mind state and was thinking about all the wrong things when it came to the drug business. R* made the worst decision in killing off Playboy or if you didn't kill him there was no more interaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 R* made the worst decision in killing off Playboy or if you didn't kill him there was no more interaction. I agree. I just feel his presence was too short lived. If he had a longer presence in the game, he would probably be more liked. I just thought it was ridiculous after killing Dwayne he just disappeared off the face of the earth. What R* should've done is something similar to what they done with Little Jacob, and Badman (Well Little Jacob is still in the story after his missions). Since PBX was into the drug, and real estate trade that could've opened up more side missions, or he could've been a random ped later on. I must admit as much as I don't like him he was a fairly interesting sort of character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotland4life Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 IMO, people let their hatred for street thugs get in their way. Playboy was a well written character and one of the smartest and more sadistic characters in the series. Playboy wasn't smart at all. He thought Dubai was in Africa and that Jesus killed John the Baptist. There's a difference between being smart, and being uneducated. Im willing to bet if someone came up to 90% of the people on this forum and told them that Dubai is in Africa, they would believe him. IMO, I doubt you knew where Dubai was until Niko corrected playboy. Well it does sound like a challenge mate. And many of us would like to prove you wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamalG Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 PBX didnt run Bohan - Spanish Lords run Bohan... he even didnt run whole North Algonquin, just North Holland... they was talking bout how he with Dwayne back in the day runned the places u said... btw, i liked PBX - cool character who reminded me of CJ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breaking Bohan Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 PBX is a straightup-bitch ... he deserves to die like a dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayM Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 People like Big Smoke and Playboy actually managed to build empires. Thing is though those characters are the type you 'love to hate'. You know that they're supposed to be disliked so when given the chance you kill them. The only reason I killed Playboy was for the penthouse as I had no use for the money you get for killing Dwayne since Niko's pretty loaded by then, although he still moans about not being Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrinPA Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 PBX was success with his business but that was because Dwayne helped him. He seemed like a person who fakes there way through life, [depending on if you killed him] and if he was around in 10 years he'd be depressed just like Dwayne. He's like a more annoying version of OG Loc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZayDaGawd Posted June 18, 2009 Author Share Posted June 18, 2009 PBX was success with his business but that was because Dwayne helped him. He seemed like a person who fakes there way through life, [depending on if you killed him] and if he was around in 10 years he'd be depressed just like Dwayne. He's like a more annoying version of OG Loc. How did Dwayne help him if Dwayne was locked up? Dwayne was a father figure who got him into the game but he did not help playboy. It's true that Dwayne was more likeable but lets face it, Playboy was right. Dwayne didnt understand how buisness today works and was stuck living in the past. If I was Playboy I wouldve gotten rid of Dwayne too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evog Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 I didn't like him because of his attitude. Plain and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA_getaway_driver Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 My opinion is:: Playboy X is and egotistical prick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shivanandrs Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 For me, he was a cocky up-himself asshole. That was my reason too. I was really hoping i got thopportunity to e put a bullet in his head since the first time we met. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CryptReaperDorian Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Manny Escuela is worse than PBX in my opinion. I mean who says "man" in every f*cking sentence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheat Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 I actually liked Playboy first, cuz he is a, you know, cool man, but can't say that he wasn't a prick always, but you know, he was a gangsta smokin' n' livin' the rap life, ya know? But when I killed Dwayne for the first time in this savegame I'm playin' now, I was like oh f*ck when I called Playboy, he's such a prick, and now I hope that I could go and shoot his face with a shotgun. But I'mma use his parkin' lot anywayz : DD I think that people hate Playboy because of what he did to Niko and tried to do to Dwayne. Or that's it for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
