i like coffee enemas Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 (edited) Haha. What do people think this game is going to be? An all out 10 hour spandex gangbang? The only thing that'll probably be gay about this game is Gay Tony. It's GTA, not queer eye for the straight guy. It's about Luis and his roots, not about how many banana's Gay Tony can stick up his ass. Jeez. Now I'd be the first to admit that I'm a bit of a homophobe but the "homosexual theme" to BOGT isn't going to stop me from purchasing this DLC or judging Rockstar for including such a theme. I'm going to take it with a pinch of salt. It's GTA man, who cares?! If anybody does complain, let me be the first person to tell you that you're a complete dweeb and you deserve to die Edited June 24, 2009 by leelee862 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swooner Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 The fear of homosexuality comes from insecurity. People with these insecurities are so afraid of being labeled as being gay, that they will make a big deal out of a (brilliant!) GTA title about the boss your Dominican Drug Dealer player works for. Personally, I hope Gay Tony Prince is hilarious & I think Luis' personality will make him the perfect "straight man" to Tony's wild rants. And I hope this episode plays out more like Vice City & is the funniest & craziest episode yet. Hopefully, ignorant people will get over this someday.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EzaH Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 I really don't give a sh*t. They could have gay sex in every cutscene, I'm still playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotchMouth Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 hot coffee turns into hot mocha chino latte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feral Slug Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 TBH, i think this game may actually turn a lot of homophobes around. they'll go out, buy it, and play through it jeering at the characters the whole way. but it'll be badass, and they'll be like, "well now, there's a thought. this gay dude is cool. i suppose all gay dudes are cool." and we will all go outside, join hands with our neighbors, and sing through the night. that or radical republicans will riot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMathers3501 Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 Radical republicans will riot. Then again, there's been fewer and fewer of these idiots it seems since they all started getting discredited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 (edited) A preteen protagonist amongst the crime and grime would be most upsetting, plus, it should be a girl as well. They flirted with some odd religious satire in the Stories series. I think with Rockstar we can be sure it won't be as terrible an attempt at humor as SR's Freckle Bitches. I mean, I don't even get that at all! haha Forgot to mention there is a local Gay Pride parade in my town, and annual event...sad to say. The media reports on it calling it a "PRIDE PARADE", better to leave out the gay and lesbian references anyway, play it safe! Edited June 29, 2009 by Slamman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oipolloi Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 Nobody was bothered about El Burro in GTA (and later GTAIII), gayness was the least of his, erm, kinks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMathers3501 Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Nobody was bothered about El Burro in GTA (and later GTAIII), gayness was the least of his, erm, kinks... That depends. Would you rather f*ck a dude or a donkey? Now THERE'S a trick question for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CryptReaperDorian Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Can somebody clear up why somebody who hates, but doesn't fear, a gay person is called a homophobe? I'm pretty sure a phobia is a fear, not a hate. Other than that, I would like to see Luis a bit of this so called "homophobic" myself. I wouldn't want it to be to a great extent, but to the point where plenty of humor can arise without hurting the friendship between Luis and Gay Tony. You know what I mean? Gay Tony: -gets over-stressed about something- Luis: Maybe you should of spent some time at Honkers. Something along that context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feral Slug Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 phobia means fear. a "-phobe" is "one who does not like". there, i cleared it up for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotchMouth Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 phobia means fear. a "-phobe" is "one who does not like". there, i cleared it up for you Not to be too picky or anything...... But i think that oversimplifies it a bit. Phobias are better described as an irrational, intense, persistent fear of certain situations, activities, things, or people with the main symptom being the excessive, unreasonable desire to avoid the feared subject. Thats where i think homophobia is misapplied as a term because most often it is a form of bigotry that we see. stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swooner Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 The fear of homosexuality comes from insecurity. People with these insecurities are afraid of being labeled as being gay ...This leads to hate (like the dark side and sh*t) = Does this help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalosoulj4h20 Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 I predict information tomorrow at 12 noon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafioso86 Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 phobia means fear. a "-phobe" is "one who does not like". there, i cleared it up for you Not to be too picky or anything...... But i think that oversimplifies it a bit. Phobias are better described as an irrational, intense, persistent fear of certain situations, activities, things, or people with the main symptom being the excessive, unreasonable desire to avoid the feared subject. Thats where i think homophobia is misapplied as a term because most often it is a form of bigotry that we see. stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own. Well I think the argument is that if you're being prejudiced against gays it's because you're insecure or have something to hide or whatever, or you don't like things that are different because they scare you... which is probably true in some cases, but I think other people are just simple assholes. But on topic... I really don't think this will be that big of a deal. I mean I think if anything most people will look at it as being more a comedic direction for GTA (whether it is or isn't). I mean look at Sacha Baron Cohen's new character Bruno... I'm sure plenty of people, some which may be "homophobes," will go and see it if for nothing other than entertainment. There are a few far-right redneck GTA fans (they lurk about these forums) that like GTA for the ability to use guns and give the finger to PCness... they may be turned off by this, but I don't think they are a large enough portion of the fan base to really make a difference. I think the majority of GTA fans see that title and laugh, as they know R*'s sense of humor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CryptReaperDorian Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 While the term "homophobe" can be misused, sometimes extreme hates come from fear. Look at the KKK, I bet they fear black people deep down, but on top of all that they try to cover it up with violence and hate. Same thing goes with skinheads and neo-nazis. I really don't know if all people who hate gays also fear them, but some just don't show any fear. People just bury fear just like a cat buries its sh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMathers3501 Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Hey now, I'm a redneck, and I like guns, and I hate political correctness, but I ain't no homophobe or bigot. Now you're makin' a broad sweeping generalization right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalosoulj4h20 Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Dang, wrong again. I f*cking hate no information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrixone Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 This can happen exactly like it could happened in the other stories of GTA IV. Maybe the homophobia is in the head of the conflicts that might happen but it could happen in more stories. Like niko, he is from russia and if people dont like russia they maybe will hate niko or something, i never heard about thing like this but i am sure something like that happened. Take johnny as an exemple, he is jew so people who dont like jew's will cause a conflict. There is nothing in the world that wont have people who dont agree with it. And i dont understand why to make those conflicts, its just a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DatNigaGuy Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 ur friends a dumbass he be missin out when gay tony cums out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livejoker Posted August 23, 2009 Author Share Posted August 23, 2009 ur friends a dumbass he be missin out when gay tony cums out I don't know who's a bigger dumbass. Look at the last comment and the date it was created. Also, nice choice of words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldsmobile Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Is anybody else getting a big banner-ad advertising "All Gay Mediterranean Cruises" at the top of the page as they're reading this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnage1120 Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 The fear of homosexuality comes from insecurity. People with these insecurities are afraid of being labeled as being gay ...This leads to hate (like the dark side and sh*t) = Does this help? fear is the path to the dark side. fear leads to anger. anger leads to hate. hate leads to suffering... *I removed pic, too big, too lazy to shrink- Anyways, I know lots of friends who aren't and are gonna buy it. I am buying it for sure, I wanna see the new online attire for multiplayer, TLAD had the most badass attire of any GTA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cilogy Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Is anybody else getting a big banner-ad advertising "All Gay Mediterranean Cruises" at the top of the page as they're reading this thread? Because advertisements on some forum sites pull from key words on the actual forum. Like if a bunch of people talk about Gay Tony, the word "gay" is used often in the discussion, therefore the advertisement thinks the people posting on the forum might be interested in products or services related to "gay" things. Its sounds silly but that's the sneakiness (a word?) of these advertisers. Anyway, just so that I atleast contribute something to this thread: The issue with any potential debates about TBOGT is not those playing, the problem is all the Jack Thompson's out there. You will see that most of the smoke will come from those who do not experience or play GTA games for fun. The Thompson's of the world argue that no one should be playing these games; the problem with this theory is that the only people playing GTA games are those who actually want to experience its "vices" or those who are actually trying to find something in the game to criticize. The people who the Thompson's don't want playing the game (the average person) are not playing the game. The players of the game are a specific group, in other words, GTA's have a cult following, so those who are not interested in its It seems to me like the people who play this game for fun are, on the majority, liberal people. This is because themes reflected in the game are those that liberal people defend or embrace. For example, prositution, drug use, etc. Now dont' get me wrong, I'm not saying that liberal like to do these things, I'm just saying that its hard to find conservative folks who play this game with and all of its features. I also feel like people are assuming too much about TBOGT. I think that because the title has the word "gay" in it, it seems to people like the whole game will be about homosexuality. For example, right after the synopsis was announced, people started ranting "OMG will Luis be gay? will this be gay? will that be gay? will there be gay things?" Its wrong to think this. What I'm saying is to just wait and see, because it may just be that only thing gay about the game is Tony himself. By the way, has Jack Thompson had an emo moment recently about TBOGT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeLMrcs Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 No, if the wang in TLAD went over him I'm sure this can too. I doubt there will be too much "gay" content, and if it does who cares. I want to see Luis' view of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l9f Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 (edited) Can somebody clear up why somebody who hates, but doesn't fear, a gay person is called a homophobe? I'm pretty sure a phobia is a fear, not a hate. Other than that, I would like to see Luis a bit of this so called "homophobic" myself. I wouldn't want it to be to a great extent, but to the point where plenty of humor can arise without hurting the friendship between Luis and Gay Tony. You know what I mean? Gay Tony: -gets over-stressed about something- Luis: Maybe you should of spent some time at Honkers. Something along that context. Just to throw my two cents in: A phobia is a fear or strong aversion to something. Also, I would argue that hate is a manifistaion of fear, which is itself a manifistation of ignorance. Edited August 25, 2009 by l9f Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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