Modern Warfare 2

[asimov]

Medium Longrage in Call of Duty 4? What? Sorry what maps were medium/long ranged in Call of Duty 4?

 

I meant, not many of the maps were particularly well suited to shotguns. Certain parts of few maps were, but really only 3 or so were (Killhouse, Shipment, Wetwork, half of Vacant). The rest had open areas bewteen buildings leaving you completely vunerable.

 

[Rick88]

 

I've stayed out of the whole 'this is Halo not CoD' debate up to now, and I'll continue to stay out of it after I've said this. I don't see how adding some new features can move a game into a completely different franchise. Anyway, I've read it on a lot of forums, and it just sounds like a lot of people wanted CoD4 with a few new skins and a couple of new weapons.

 

I've been playing Call of Duty since release, and this is still Call of Duty. It's Infinity Ward moving forwards with their game, adding new features and keeping it fresh.

Agreed. I think people are just looking a little too much into it. But as soon as they grab the game and play it, they'll forget they made such ridiculous claims. Anyways I like all the new info I've been reading. I like the idea of having more customizable options when it comes to weapons, perks and such. Can't wait to see what else they have stored for us.

[Daz]

Edit: I just hope they don't silence revolvers if they put them in the game, as the only model I know of that can actually be silenced in reality is the 1895 Nagant, which would be a pretty badass sidearm considering it holds seven rounds. Even though the 7.62x38mm is supposed to be underpowered, from what I've read the Nagant can use .32 Magnum which is a more 'meaty', versus a paper-puncher.

 

So in short

 

Seven rounds

.32 Magnum (Just behind the .38 special in effectiveness)

Actual possibility for silencer

Lengthy reloading process (Eh, so what?)

 

Am I the only one who would love this as a sidearm?

Yes.

 

Silenced revolvers is a joke, and the ammount of gasses coming from out of of around the cylinder makes a silenced revolver redundant. Despite what you see in movies.

 

 

And why I want the PP2000 as primary, is I dont EVER want to go into a game without a pistol. I find it truely discusting and against nature to not be carrying a pistol.

 

By the looks of that screenshot You may be able to choose which goes where. Though I am not certain if you can use the MP5K as a sidearm, but they did say shotguns would be. So hopefully Shotguns, SMG's AND pistols are all interchangeable and can be used as sidearms or primaries.

 

I would LOVE to be able to take in 2 pistols (not dual, but one in the holster one in my hand. Like a Deagle or Revolver, with a 92FS or USP.

[FullMetal]

I would LOVE to be able to take in 2 pistols (not dual, but one in the holster one in my hand. Like a Deagle or Revolver, with a 92FS or USP.

I was thinking the same... didn't really have the wish in Call of Duty 4 Modern Warfare to use such a feature but in World at War (with a revolver) I really craved for such a 'perk'. But unfortunatly it didn't suit the era. Now, with Modern Warfare 2 and seeing that there is a .44 Magnum revolver again I really hope for such a perk.

 

It should be bad ass to walk around with a Revolver taking out enemies and when you run out, quickly switching to your Beretta or USP (or Glock?) and keep on stacking bodies .

[Daz]

 

I would LOVE to be able to take in 2 pistols (not dual, but one in the holster one in my hand. Like a Deagle or Revolver, with a 92FS or USP.

I was thinking the same... didn't really have the wish in Call of Duty 4 Modern Warfare to use such a feature but in World at War (with a revolver) I really craved for such a 'perk'. But unfortunatly it didn't suit the era. Now, with Modern Warfare 2 and seeing that there is a .44 Magnum revolver again I really hope for such a perk.

 

It should be bad ass to walk around with a Revolver taking out enemies and when you run out, quickly switching to your Beretta or USP (or Glock?) and keep on stacking bodies .

Exactly. But it shouldnt need a perk, infact you should get some other additional ability due to the fact you are using weaker weapons with limited range. Like you get double ammo, or sprint longer just by default by having 2 pistols.

 

Its not like it isnt possible. In CoD2 and CoD4 all you had to do was drop your primary over a pistol left on the floor and boom, 2 pistols. Awesome as hell.

 

I wonder if they will do extended pistol mags. Hopefully if they do, I dont really want any of the cosmetic looks of any extended mags. Except some primary weapons where they actually do have extended mags, such as the current small MP5K 15rd mag, changed to the full lenthy 30 round. Or the AK47's 30 changed to the RPK's 45 round. Etc. But I wouldnt use extended mags on a pistol unless it didnt change the cosmetic look. I dont like sticky outy mags at the bottom of pistols.

 

Also, I forgot that the WA2000 is in the game. Its funny, because only 176 were ever made. And the price of one now is such a pisstake you may as well buy 5 PSG-1's at full price. Like $75,000.

Edited September 17, 2009 by Daz

[BLTZKRG]

I would LOVE to be able to take in 2 pistols (not dual, but one in the holster one in my hand. Like a Deagle or Revolver, with a 92FS or USP.

I was thinking the same... didn't really have the wish in Call of Duty 4 Modern Warfare to use such a feature but in World at War (with a revolver) I really craved for such a 'perk'. But unfortunatly it didn't suit the era. Now, with Modern Warfare 2 and seeing that there is a .44 Magnum revolver again I really hope for such a perk.

 

It should be bad ass to walk around with a Revolver taking out enemies and when you run out, quickly switching to your Beretta or USP (or Glock?) and keep on stacking bodies .

Bingo.

 

A Deagle plus an automatic Glock would be awesomely intense. And not to mention would really piss everyone in a server.

 

Although I see a pretty exploitable option here with the Akimbo. 2x(2x Pistol)?

 

Underpowered in singles, but definitely overpowered with Akimbo.

[FullMetal]

Magnum + Beretta/USP would be my loadout (if they aren't underpowered).

 

Also yes I agree, but since IW doesn't like hardcore gamers that much it should cost us one 'perk slot'. If you reward hardcore gamers the game will be more difficult to play for mainstream gamers and the masses. And I actually agree with you on the fact that double pistols (NOT akimbo) should automatically give you longer/faster sprint and/or faster movement. Or even better, one extra perk slot (and you can choose one of the perks from perk slot 1/2/3... but not all of those perks from those slots).

 

Anyways I'm kind of looking forward playing Modern Warfare 2 (online) and on the other hand I don't. Now I'm kind of getting the feeling again that I will be disappointed (by the overpowered automatic weapons, spray & pray aspect of the game that'll be the main focus... dumbed down gameplay so the masses and mainstream/casual gamers can get into the game).

 

But meh... it LOOKS great though!

[Daz]

I know exactly what you mean.

 

I actually havent played a FPS with automatic guns for a while. After being on call of juarez, and WaW before. And even in fallout 3, Just using Bolt action and lever action rifles that dominate. It will be crazy, everyone with two attachments, extended mags, dual smgs, rifles + smgs/shotguns, is just gunna be a spamfest.

 

Though I love my old shoot from the hip with mp5 technique, it wont be as good if everyone is doing it and everyone has crazy dangerous guns on their loadouts.

 

 

I just feel that they either need to seriously balance everything to a hair. Or make the maps abit larger so there is less chance of complete clusterf*ck. Something the size of Pipeline or Overgrown, I love those maps because the size was just right.

[BLTZKRG]

I just feel that they either need to seriously balance everything to a hair. Or make the maps abit larger so there is less chance of complete clusterf*ck. Something the size of Pipeline or Overgrown, I love those maps because the size was just right.

And more balanced map layout and accessibility. I seriously need to put stress on this. There were 2 maps I ALWAYS avoided playing in Local/Online MP. The Showdown map and the Killhouse map. They were in their own merit large maps, but with the chokepoints in Showdown and Poor tactical navigation, the first team to reach the center square in Showdown or the left-hand side of Killhouse gets to dominate the whole map, because the spawn behaviour will always part the opposing team. Negating any tactical or aggressive attack on the point.

 

Although with what I've seen in the Afghan, Rooftop and Rio de Janiero maps, Infinity Ward not only expanded the maps horizontally, they've also made the maps rise, to an extent you REALLY have to be wary upon venturing out into the open.

 

I'm so hyped up right now.

[FullMetal]

They seriously need to add more recoil to automatic weapons AND less accurate shooting when you fire from the hip. But I bet they won't do that because they'll lose alot of customers with that.

 

And yes Pipeline and Overgrown were decently sized... and in terms for consoleplay 'big maps'. Though once you get on a 24 people (or more) server for PC those maps are yet again small and shoebox sized.

 

So in my opinion Pipeline and Overgrown should be the standard for SHOEBOX SIZED maps if you know what I mean. Smallest maps in Modern Warfare 2 should have the size of Overgrown/Pipeline...

 

But I don't think we'll see big maps in Modern Warfare 2...

[Daz]

They seriously need to add more recoil to automatic weapons AND less accurate shooting when you fire from the hip.

f*ck that sh*t.

 

What is the point in even shooting then? They arent going to allow you to select semi auto and shoot accurately. One of my biggest problems with most fps games is that guns are just not accurate enough, though it may be unrealistic, sometimes I just want a gun where I can shoot on a pinpoint in full auto, though you almost can with an MP7. I just like it when I hit where I shoot and what I hit goes down. Thats mostly all I care about. And I always used to use the mp5 and shoot from the hip and it was the best sh*t ever.

 

Now they dont have the MP5N in the game anymore I may as well hang myself.

 

Though if they had bolt action rifles with iron sights I would use those ALL the time, like I did in WaW.

[anuj]

Big maps would be nice, especially with different spawnpoints. One of the things I used to love about America's Army and UT2K4 was some of the huge maps where you could actually find a sniper vantage point and use it to dominate until someone snuck up on you.

[FullMetal]

Though if they had bolt action rifles with iron sights I would use those ALL the time, like I did in WaW.

That would be a godsend... the only thing that keeps me away from Modern Warfare lately.

 

But then again I don't really play both games that much. I probably will play World at War again alot (patch out tomorrow with Der Riese + awesome MP maps).

 

But then again, I should also continue ranking up and unlocking 'the golden weapons' since I lost my previous profile.

 

 

[Enjoii]

A few more videos, although they have some music over the actual gameplay music;

 

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/brazil-d...n-warfare/56142

 

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/highrise...n-warfare/56136

 

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/highrise...n-warfare/56140

 

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/highrise...n-warfare/56138

[Jean Capel]

New videos up at IGN.

 

 

 

 

At :59 in this video it shows that sleight of hand has been moved to the first perk slot!

 

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/1428110...ass_091609.html

 

 

 

Edit: Also confirms several weapons, including M79 Vietnam era launcher, and shows some secondary weapons and confirms attachments for them.

 

 

Edit2: New first slow perk, "Scavenger PMD" it has a satellite for it's perk icon.

Edited September 17, 2009 by Jean Capel

[Vercetti21]

Meh, don't fix what isn't broken. In that case, grant a 3 second spawn immunity to stop those annoying spawn kills, and make the maps a bit more open and I'll be good.

Edited September 17, 2009 by Vercetti21

[Enjoii]

Another gameplay video, you can see the Barrett with a HBS for a while at the beginning;

 

EDIT: Cheytac Intervention confirmed;

And a bit of Riot Shield gameplay; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT0hfD6zP6E

 

Also confirmed is a new slow-mo killcam that plays the winning kill of the game at the end of the match.

Edited September 17, 2009 by Enjoii

[Wolverine.]

Nice find Enjoii. Looks like Favela will be one of my favorite maps. Looks so vibrant similar to Crash.

[Chargr]

Didn't they confirm sometime ago, that some original maps would be returning?

[Grand Theft Auto Dude]

There's a permenant 'Special Grenades X2' going on, with no smoke again..

 

It'll be interesting to see how some of the 'Pro' perks work, like Bling (3 attachments?), Marathon (More unlimited sprint?) and Cold-Blooded.

[asimov]

Bling is 2x attachments, I really like this one. Some of the guns have terrible iron sights, like the G36, it obscures so much of the view.

[papanesta]

Not sure if it's been mentioned...but has anyone seen the Modern Warfare 2 limited-edition 360? Thinking of getting it...250GB, right? inlove.gif

Yeah, I'm getting it. Just need to wait until it's available to pre-order in the UK.

I want that console.

 

Been thinking of getting an Elite... may now wait. Just sell the copy of the game, I guess.

[Enjoii]

 

It'll be interesting to see how some of the 'Pro' perks work, like Bling (3 attachments?), Marathon (More unlimited sprint?) and Cold-Blooded.

Marathon Pro allows you to get over objects quicker (so you can climb quicker etc). But I don't think that all perks are going to have a pro version.

 

EDIT: OXM November pictures. Non-direct link, hope it's okay, just go into the MW2 album. They're pretty small, but apparently Snowmobile Time Trials have been confirmed; http://s630.photobucket.com/albums/uu30/huush/

Edited September 18, 2009 by Enjoii

[1ManArmy]

I finally had a chance to watch the interview with the community manager and I must say that I am very, very, very..... f*ckING HYPED UP BIATCHHH!

 

Before it was announced I remember earlier in this thread I posted that I wish that you can suppressed a silencer but I had quite a few good objections from some guys and it made sense it wouldn't be in the game, but it WILL BE! Damn, sh*t's gonna be so f*cking cool. A bolt action suppressed sniper rifle is epic. Another thing that I love is the new secondary equips and also definitely the call signs and stuff. It f*ckin' rocks. It may not seem much but having call signs would be really fun and also getting rewarded for every small thing you do like taking down a chopper is awesome. I remember in cod4 how I always took down choppers with assault rifles but was never recognize for it. Certainly can't wait for it, most likely it will be the game of the year! WOOOOO! HOO-AHHH!

[FullMetal]

EDIT: OXM November pictures. Non-direct link, hope it's okay, just go into the MW2 album. They're pretty small, but apparently Snowmobile Time Trials have been confirmed; http://s630.photobucket.com/albums/uu30/huush/

Doesn't work at all ... fix the link please.

[Enjoii]

Doesn't work at all ... fix the link please.

The link works fine, just tried it myself while logged out. Did you go into the MW2 album like I said?

[FullMetal]

Doesn't work at all ... fix the link please.

The link works fine, just tried it myself while logged out. Did you go into the MW2 album like I said?

Can't see anything at all... nothing to be found just a big blank page with only the 'account name' and such. It should be on the left right? (I'm not that familiar with photobucket either).

 

Checked all over the place but I can't find it... it seems that it doesn't allow me to view his albums or something.

[Enjoii]

You should see a screen like this, with the two albums on the left; http://i29.tinypic.com/2mq6rg2.png

[1ManArmy]

I just found out that you can sling your riot shield on your back while wielding two smgs and ir protects your rear! Damn this sh*t is epic. I can't wait to see what new things are added for snipers to make thngs more fun.

[SanMadrid]

I'm so glad there is a capture the flag mode. That was missing out of the first game.

 

 

Edit whoa 1ManArmy that sounds great