Modern Warfare 2

[Enjoii]

Was that just a longer version of what had already been shown...?

Same footage that was shown on yesterday's Gamespot interview if you watched that. No new info confirmed that wasn't seen yesterday.

[Lethal Nizzle]

What makes this game so great? It's just another typical first-person-shooter.

It may seem like that to you, but it began as a simple run-of-the-mill FPS, but soon the MW franchise grew.

 

MW2 will appear and play like an action movie, and that gameplay demo was like something straight out of James Bond. It really is unique in the sense it brings so much to the genre in the aspect of story-telling, and such.

[papanesta]

What makes this game so great? It's just another typical first-person-shooter.

Have you actually played it?

 

I was thinking the way you did til I bought it, and realised how long I'd been missing out.

[Spotter4]

 

QUOTE (Gezim @ Jun 4 2009, 19:43)

What makes this game so great? It's just another typical first-person-shooter.

 

It may seem like that to you, but it began as a simple run-of-the-mill FPS, but soon the MW franchise grew.

 

MW2 will appear and play like an action movie, and that gameplay demo was like something straight out of James Bond. It really is unique in the sense it brings so much to the genre in the aspect of story-telling, and such.

 

That's what they said about L4D,Halo 3,Bioshock,and others.It IS a typical FPS.Keep in mind that in demos and trailers they can do stuff that the actual game can't.

Unless snow can actually fall on my gun,slides around or falls off it around depending upon where I'm aiming,and can cause my gun to jam if it lands in the wrong spot,I will not be impressed.

 

[Omnia sunt Communia]

I believe these factions should be playable....I know most of them won't, but it's wishful thinking, who knows? Maybe we could get them in Modern Warfare 3?

 

Story Mode-Spetsnaz

 

Multiplayer-Mossad, Taliban, IRA, Chinese Army, South American Contras

How do those factions fit in with the Modern Warfare storyline? Do you even know that the storyline is about? I fail to see how any of those factions have anything to do with the story, at all.

[buzbegone]

Hey Enjoii, good job with the list but you might want to add this pic because it has been speculated many times to be the official box art

 

Edited June 5, 2009 by buzbegone

[Daz]

Nice work.

 

Weapons list is abit f*cked. Though you are right it is a Bushmaster ACR, though technically the gun is such a rip of the scar and slight similarities to the M8.

 

List is good but I never saw the following: USP, SVD, Baby Eagle(pretty sure its a full size desert eagle), M16, Or the MP5(though god I hope they keep it)

 

Dont forget the Shield and Icepick too.

 

 

Btw the M4 type weapon is an exact copy of the M4-S System, Though I havent actually seen a real one, but I do know they are created in airsoft versions like

This one

 

Similar story with the AK, one of which you see soap carrying on his back when he attacks an enemy. Such as

This one In sand color.

Edited June 5, 2009 by Daz

[Enjoii]

Yeah, the weapon list needs work. I'm removing it and setting up all items on the list so they're hyperlinked to an image of them in game.

As for the ones you had doubts of:

USP .45

Baby Eagle

SVD

MP5

^Not sure if this one is correct

M16

[AbSoLuTiOn]

 

List is good but I never saw the following: USP, SVD, Baby Eagle(pretty sure its a full size desert eagle), M16, Or the MP5(though god I hope they keep it)

 

Dont forget the Shield and Icepick too.

The USP was briefly seen during the part MW2 part on GameSpot yesterday, the SVD has been seen in a screenshot with some Militia guy in Rio holding it and i'm pretty sure one of the SWAT guys at the airport bit in the trailer has an MP5 on his hip.

 

And i've seen a rumour that the shield will be a perk in MP, most likely not true though.

 

EDIT: Damn it Enjoii, and you had pictures too.

[Daz]

Cheers for the links.

 

M16 well, is on the art sometimes they arent ingame but Id trust that it is. I still think thats a desert eagle not baby (Jericho941) the gun's lenth is longer there. As for the MP5, to me it looks like an MP5K with 15 round mag and no vertical grip, looks more like the grip you usually get on those M4 Patriot style tiny carbines.

 

Also updated my post with links to the exact designs of the M4 and AK's seen.

[manofpeace]

 

MP5

^Not sure if this one is correct

 

To me, it looks like a MP5K without the vertical grip. The small clip and the shape look more like it: http://www.justpistols.co.uk/mp5k_001.jpg

 

Edit: extended barrel or something too?

 

Double Edit: Damn you Daz!

[Daz]

MP5

^Not sure if this one is correct

 

To me, it looks like a MP5K without the vertical grip. The small clip and the shape look more like it: http://www.justpistols.co.uk/mp5k_001.jpg

 

Edit: extended barrel or something too?

 

Double Edit: Damn you Daz!

Haha. Im proud of you.

 

Yeah just an MP5K with 15 RD mag, and the grip could have RIS rails on it, it just might not be visable in that light. Though for some reason the front of it reminds me of

This

[Enjoii]

Right.. Well, I just finished off the list of hyperlinks for guns. Added in the new list, clicked submit and the post is now completely emptied itself.

For some reason it happens every time I try and add the list into the post, no idea as to why though

 

EDIT: Seems like the post can only handle a certain amount of hyperlinks. It works if I cut out like half of the links. Had to provide a link to a later post, not ideal but it's the only way right now.

Edited June 5, 2009 by Enjoii

[anuj]

That's what they said about L4D,Halo 3,Bioshock,and others.It IS a typical FPS.Keep in mind that in demos and trailers they can do stuff that the actual game can't.

 

Unless snow can actually fall on my gun,slides around or falls off it around depending upon where I'm aiming,and can cause my gun to jam if it lands in the wrong spot,I will not be impressed.

I can't tell if you're being facetious because I'm slightly intoxicated, but L4D, Halo 3, and Bioshock were all critical and commercial successes.

 

And by successes, I mean people were f*cking rolling around in money because people loved their game so much.

 

If a minor technical achievement such as causing your gun to jam based on where you're standing is the benchmark of whether or not you will be impressed, I suggest you play America's Army. Their guns jam all the time. Most (dare I say, all) of people who don't suffer from autism or Asperger's Syndrome will simply enjoy the game because it is... how do you say... "fun to play"?

[copperwire93]

I didn't remember the last time I posted on this topic This game has awesome graphics I might need to upgrade my PC.

[asimov]

Jammed guns would suck, too much realisim can ruin games.

[Alfresco]

Jammed guns would suck, too much realisim can ruin games.

That ^

 

Also the frustration caused by such an event would cause Daz to explode and/or go on a murderous rampage.

[copperwire93]

Jammed guns would suck, too much realisim can ruin games.

I don't know, I think I like that but they have to make the enemies' weapons jammed too or it will be suck like FarCry2.

[FullMetal]

What do people have against realism? Red Orchestra is one of the games that knows how to combine realism and fun. I still play the game quite alot but unfortunately there aren't that many players.

 

I believe the Call of Duty/Modern Warfare franchise can use some more realism. I mean; that way they can experiment with new gameplay, new features AND create something groundbreaking (it's not that 'realism' in games is something that is mainstream, and since the franchise is extremely mainstream at the moment...).

[Alfresco]

because it's a video game? If I wanted total realism I'd join up!

[anuj]

What do people have against realism? Red Orchestra is one of the games that knows how to combine realism and fun. I still play the game quite alot but unfortunately there aren't that many players.

 

I believe the Call of Duty/Modern Warfare franchise can use some more realism. I mean; that way they can experiment with new gameplay, new features AND create something groundbreaking (it's not that 'realism' in games is something that is mainstream, and since the franchise is extremely mainstream at the moment...).

Because COD is an arcade game, not a simulation. It's the FPS version of Ace Combat. They sacrifice realism for fun.

 

If you want total realism, I wasn't kidding when I said play America's Army. Their guns jam all the time, you can't move at more than a snail's pace with your weapon ready, and every game is like S&D. You can't respawn.

 

As for Red Orchestra, that stuff was AA set 70 years ago. I couldn't play it for more than fifteen minutes. There are what, 200 total servers? I mean, even the original unpatched COD4 1.00 for the PC still has 800 populated servers. I think that its somewhat fair to say that when it comes to FPSes, the most that players want in terms of realism is realistic graphics.

[asimov]

Dammit, wrong CoD topic..uhhh yay MW 2

Edited June 5, 2009 by asimov

[Daz]

Jammed guns would suck, too much realisim can ruin games.

That ^

 

Also the frustration caused by such an event would cause Daz to explode and/or go on a murderous rampage.

True.

 

And where would this come into play with guns like the G36 and 416, that dont jam before 24,000 rounds fired.

 

And Far Cry 2 sucked balls for that sh*t, buy a new and fully upgraded weapon and it starts jamming every two seconds then exploads. f*ck off with that sh*t.

 

If I want realism I will play Operation Flashpoint, which I will be doing when its released.

 

But you should never sacrafice acessablity and handy time saving and quick features just for some stupid realism. Otherwise you will be playing a game where you have to walk all the way across russia to get to a mission just to be run over by a ped half way through and have to start all over again.

[El Zilcho]

Just pre-ordered it, it comes out just 10 days before my birthday! No need to worry when or how I'll pick it up, it'll be at my doorstep on release. I'm hyped!

[Osric]

@Jacky Fiend

 

Now, I don't know much about the MW storyline, but I will probably get MW2 when it gets cheap or just save up and get MW this month, so I can catch up. Sorry if I didn't know much, but I do like the Israeli Army, mainly because of equipment and training, so yeah, that's why I wanted Mossad. As for IRA and the Chinese Army, I was thinking they could expand past Russia and the Middle East, and go into Europe, Latin America, and East Asia. I hear a lot about COD in schoo from my friendsl, and after seeing the Green Berets vs. Spetsnaz episode of "Deadliest Warrior" I was inspired to make the upcoming Build Up Your Army with El Zilcho, who recommended COD4, so that's why I'm getting into it, but haven't played the game yet, I will respond with a more educated response later. Fair?

 

Now that I'm done typing all that, what do you guys want for MW2? I want to be able to use impromptu weapons like Molotov Cocktails, knives and tools, and homemade bombs in certain situations.

Edited June 5, 2009 by Osric

[Daz]

Now that I'm done typing all that, what do you guys want for MW2? I want to be able to use impromptu weapons like Molotov Cocktails, knives and tools, and homemade bombs in certain situations.

Id rather not really.

 

What I want, mostly is prettymuch similar to the first game, some good decent vehicle missions in gunships or whatever. Lone wolf missions and maybe a HALO/HAHO jump mission, continuing on from the mile high club.

 

Online I would like some more customization, mostly being able to change cosmetic apearances of your guns, not just scopes and silencers, maybe different stocks, removing vertical grips etc. But without causing any kind of change in stats. And of course being able to at least choose out of 2 or so different outfits, gear then head types for your character on each side, online. And hopefully a mode that doesnt encourage camping, but at the same time doesnt require you to run about the map the whole time in order to keep the game going or make your team suffer for not dealing with the objective. A basic Team Deathmatch, with an added focus point to give people a reason to move about, but not forcing you.

 

Also, I f*cking hope the perks arent back, they ruined the past 2 cod games.

[anuj]

Perks are awesome.

 

My question is, what use would customizing stocks on your long guns be? You'd be the only one who couldn't see it at all. Until you get killed at least.

[Enjoii]

Personally I'm not really up for character customisation unless it was something minor. I don't really think that a full-scale system like featured in R6V wouldn't really fit with the MW/CoD gameplay. Also because it's an FPS game, I don't really see the point personally.

More gun customisation would be good for things like stocks, although a bit pointless, unless they actually affected your stats.

 

And chances are the perk system will return, it was very popular with the general audience, and 402 basically confirmed that perks would return when he said that they were going to be tweaking Martyrdom.

[nlitement]

 

Perks are awesome.

 

My question is, what use would customizing stocks on your long guns be? You'd be the only one who couldn't see it at all. Until you get killed at least.

No stock, guns switch faster, but sacrificing accuracy?

[Gezim]

What makes this game so great? It's just another typical first-person-shooter.

Have you actually played it?

 

I was thinking the way you did til I bought it, and realised how long I'd been missing out.

Yeah, twice, once at my friend's house and the other at my cousin's. Call of Duty 4 that is.

 

Nothing brought my attention. I even played WoW.