How Will This Be Explained?

[TheJonesy]

The diamonds where never in the bank, since the very beginning of the story they have been around you. When you are on the boat, you see a cook drop the diamonds into a soup, showing they aren't even from America.

I've always wondered how many people missed that, or just forgot about it since they only saw it once.

I sure as hell missed it! It was only when I played the game through again when the penny dropped and I went 'Oooohhh...I see' lol!

 

Back to the reason why Luis was in the bank at the time...who knows?! Let's just wait and see eh?! I reckon he was planning to rob the bank himself or something.

Yeah I dont think there were many people that connected the dots with that until either somebody told them or they played the game again. GTA IV is great for that which adds alot of replay value to the story... Its like you have to play the game twice to get the whole story. I for one was so excited about playing the game that I missed most of the little details in dialogue etc and only truely understood the whole thing when I took my time and played it again.

Heh, exactly. The first play-through is just for its entirety and the second is to truly get all the details and such.

[PearlHarborPants]

I have a Feeling Three Leaf Clover is the First mission for Luis for starting in a Bank and Starting his life of Crime From there...

 

My Story: First Mission - Three Leaf Clover...WHAT???

 

Watch the Cutscene Yourself! but in a Nutshell.... This guy Eugene Reaper as read in the GTA Wiki. Said something about Getting that Pass or Whatever in high school and being a LC gun Club Member and said a phrase : "The World is Built out of Bad Ideas" After Eugene got shot, And the Robbers Were guarding the guys. Luis Took the Gun and Placed it into his pocket... After Hostages are Secured...Most of them, Luis is being asked for questioning with the police. After the Cops spotted a mysterious thing in Luis' Jacket, They found his gun and Arrested him. The Cops noticed the Gun Came from the Liberty City Gun Club and Asked if he was from the Gun Club. He Lied and said that he was a member there. So they Drove to the Airport And dropped him off there. Just In Front of the Gun Club. The Boss of the Club Saw Eugene Reaper's Gun and Shouted at Luis. Asking whats he done to Eugene. After Explaining the Whole Story. He Find it Believable and decided to make him a member too and he will do jobs.

[Sufferance]

I have a Feeling Three Leaf Clover is the First mission for Luis for starting in a Bank and Starting his life of Crime From there...

 

My Story: First Mission - Three Leaf Clover...WHAT???

 

Watch the Cutscene Yourself! but in a Nutshell.... This guy Eugene Reaper as read in the GTA Wiki. Said something about Getting that Pass or Whatever in high school and being a LC gun Club Member and said a phrase : "The World is Built out of Bad Ideas" After Eugene got shot, And the Robbers Were guarding the guys. Luis Took the Gun and Placed it into his pocket... After Hostages are Secured...Most of them, Luis is being asked for questioning with the police. After the Cops spotted a mysterious thing in Luis' Jacket, They found his gun and Arrested him. The Cops noticed the Gun Came from the Liberty City Gun Club and Asked if he was from the Gun Club. He Lied and said that he was a member there. So they Drove to the Airport And dropped him off there. Just In Front of the Gun Club. The Boss of the Club Saw Eugene Reaper's Gun and Shouted at Luis. Asking whats he done to Eugene. After Explaining the Whole Story. He Find it Believable and decided to make him a member too and he will do jobs.

honestly, that sounds like that scene from Superbad where hes in the liquor store daydreaming and the cashier asks if he's 21 and he says yeah and the cashier says "You most certainly are!" In other words, it sounds completely absurd.

[MC.]

I have a Feeling Three Leaf Clover is the First mission for Luis for starting in a Bank and Starting his life of Crime From there...

 

My Story: First Mission - Three Leaf Clover...WHAT???

 

Watch the Cutscene Yourself! but in a Nutshell.... This guy Eugene Reaper as read in the GTA Wiki. Said something about Getting that Pass or Whatever in high school and being a LC gun Club Member and said a phrase : "The World is Built out of Bad Ideas" After Eugene got shot, And the Robbers Were guarding the guys. Luis Took the Gun and Placed it into his pocket... After Hostages are Secured...Most of them, Luis is being asked for questioning with the police. After the Cops spotted a mysterious thing in Luis' Jacket, They found his gun and Arrested him. The Cops noticed the Gun Came from the Liberty City Gun Club and Asked if he was from the Gun Club. He Lied and said that he was a member there. So they Drove to the Airport And dropped him off there. Just In Front of the Gun Club. The Boss of the Club Saw Eugene Reaper's Gun and Shouted at Luis. Asking whats he done to Eugene. After Explaining the Whole Story. He Find it Believable and decided to make him a member too and he will do jobs.

honestly, that sounds like that scene from Superbad where hes in the liquor store daydreaming and the cashier asks if he's 21 and he says yeah and the cashier says "You most certainly are!" In other words, it sounds completely absurd.

ROFL HIGH FIVE

 

 

[bobgtafan]

I shot Luis. In the head. With a full clip so how will they explain that? Who knows?

[MC.]

I shot Luis. In the head. With a full clip so how will they explain that? Who knows?

They probably had him spawn in front of the hospital just like what happens with all the protagonists.

[PearlHarborPants]

I have a Feeling Three Leaf Clover is the First mission for Luis for starting in a Bank and Starting his life of Crime From there...

 

My Story: First Mission - Three Leaf Clover...WHAT???

 

Watch the Cutscene Yourself! but in a Nutshell.... This guy Eugene Reaper as read in the GTA Wiki. Said something about Getting that Pass or Whatever in high school and being a LC gun Club Member and said a phrase : "The World is Built out of Bad Ideas" After Eugene got shot, And the Robbers Were guarding the guys. Luis Took the Gun and Placed it into his pocket... After Hostages are Secured...Most of them, Luis is being asked for questioning with the police. After the Cops spotted a mysterious thing in Luis' Jacket, They found his gun and Arrested him. The Cops noticed the Gun Came from the Liberty City Gun Club and Asked if he was from the Gun Club. He Lied and said that he was a member there. So they Drove to the Airport And dropped him off there. Just In Front of the Gun Club. The Boss of the Club Saw Eugene Reaper's Gun and Shouted at Luis. Asking whats he done to Eugene. After Explaining the Whole Story. He Find it Believable and decided to make him a member too and he will do jobs.

honestly, that sounds like that scene from Superbad where hes in the liquor store daydreaming and the cashier asks if he's 21 and he says yeah and the cashier says "You most certainly are!" In other words, it sounds completely absurd.

Maybe that part of the story is Screwed up because I am Sleepy but how about the idea of Three Leaf Clover Being the Start of BOGT?

[KGBeast]

Why would all that happen? Why wouldn't Luis just take the gun, get the money Niko left in the vault and use the gun to kill anyone who tried to stop him from getting away? I think Three Leaf Clover will be near the start, but not the first mission, and I think your idea is really contrived and completely unlikely.

[The Notorious MOB]

 

Why would all that happen?  Why wouldn't Luis just take the gun, get the money Niko left in the vault and use the gun to kill anyone who tried to stop him from getting away?  I think Three Leaf Clover will be near the start, but not the first mission, and I think your idea is really contrived and completely unlikely.

I think Eugene's gun will be available for Luis to pick up but he won't have to rely on it. I think he might get a carbine rifle for this mission because Packie and Derrick got one even though they have a shotgun and a pistol respectively during the cutscene.

 

I don't think the bank job will be the first mission though as it would have to be explained before hand why Luis is at the bank. That's like presuming Blow Your Cover was going to be the first mission in TLAD.

[BikerAndy]

Why would all that happen?  Why wouldn't Luis just take the gun, get the money Niko left in the vault and use the gun to kill anyone who tried to stop him from getting away?  I think Three Leaf Clover will be near the start, but not the first mission, and I think your idea is really contrived and completely unlikely.

I think Eugene's gun will be available for Luis to pick up but he won't have to rely on it. I think he might get a carbine rifle for this mission because Packie and Derrick got one even though they have a shotgun and a pistol respectively during the cutscene.

 

I don't think the bank job will be the first mission though as it would have to be explained before hand why Luis is at the bank. That's like presuming Blow Your Cover was going to be the first mission in TLAD.

Luis will probably be armed to the teeth anyway like Nico normally is, I mean just because you dont see the 8 or so weapons that Nico normally carries doesn't mean he's not tooled up.

 

I think he was just keeping his head down because either it was nothing to do with him, and he just happened to be there, or he knew it was going to happen. It could just be that Lius is intelligent enough to not argue with four armed men if he doesn't need to.

[gamefarter]

3 words: Safe Deposit Box

[042nrogera2]

What if luis was sent to follow and kill the guy in the bank who gets killed anyway?

[iPetrovic]

I believe he's there running errands for Gay Tony. It's most likely the first mission, as this is what the end of TLAD seems to imply in the credits.

[The Notorious MOB]

I believe he's there running errands for Gay Tony. It's most likely the first mission, as this is what the end of TLAD seems to imply in the credits.

Yeah you could be right but I dont think it will be the first mission. It will likely just be a pivotal moment in the story when everything starts to happen. The Bank gets robbed acting as a blessing in disguise for Tony and Luis but after that everything starts to go downhill.

[Antonio1911]

I dont even think it could be the first mission i think it could possibly be where the game actually starts like the intro cutscene

[JOSEPH X]

I dont even think it could be the first mission i think it could possibly be where the game actually starts like the intro cutscene

I think it`ll start just after "Roman`s Sorrow"

[Slamman]

I remained opposed to the idea it was him in the bank heist. There are more then one person in a city with that name, and I don't think his character had any real substance in the cutscene.

 

Regardless, every time a name is referenced in the GTA world, it could be utilized for a character later on, so there's a chance obviously. I just think they needed someone for the guy shooting (whose name is given in the news story announcing St. Michael's death in the shootout) at the time.

 

Since he [Eugene Reaper-..?.. I forget already even though I played that mission not long ago) mentioned being a LC Gunclub member, does that mean there WILL be a gunclub added to the game later? It's highly speculative at best.

 

Anyway, I just felt he didn't embody the character that Rockstar have planned. His accent for one, not very strong.

Edited June 15, 2009 by Slamman

[iPetrovic]

 

I remained opposed to the idea it was him in the bank heist. There are more then one person in a city with that name, and I don't think his character had any real substance in the cutscene.

 

Regardless, every time a name is referenced in the GTA world, it could be utilized for a character later on, so there's a chance obviously. I just think they needed someone for the guy shooting (whose name is given in the news story announcing St. Michael's death in the shootout) at the time.

 

Since he [Eugene Reaper-..?.. I forget already even though I played that mission not long ago) mentioned being a LC Gunclub member, does that mean there WILL be a gunclub added to the game later? It's highly speculative at best.

 

Anyway, I just felt he didn't embody the character that Rockstar have planned. His accent for one, not very strong.

It is definitely Luis in Three Leaf Clover, what do you mean? It's the same Luis Fernando Lopez you meet in the other missions in IV and TLAD.

[ScotchMouth]

Maybe nico was being fooled all the story long by paccies crew and they kept the diamonds for theirselfs or something smilair. What they'll clear up in this DLC

Actually when you beat the game

 

You can go to [email protected] and read the news section that will inform you that a random bum found the diamonds in the garbage dump. Although 100's of people claimed to own the diamonds Mayor Ochoa decides to let the bum keep them. Then there is a quote from the bum saying that he is going to purchase a store in Vice City that sells Alcohol and firearms.

[foohy]

I agree that it will be Luis first mission. Why would he go there if he knew the place was being robbed and he could potentially be killed? He looks genuinely scared in the cutscene like he didn't expect it. Maybe he was tricked into going there for some reason? I dunno...that doesn't make sense either.

 

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Slamman:

It is without a doubt him in the bank.

Edited June 18, 2009 by foohy

[livejoker]

I agree that it will be Luis first mission. Why would he go there if he knew the place was being robbed and he could potentially be killed? He looks genuinely scared in the cutscene like he didn't expect it. Maybe he was tricked into going there for some reason? I dunno...that doesn't make sense either.

 

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Slamman:

It is without a doubt him in the bank.

(I didn't read the whole post seeing i'm pretty tired, so I might be wrong in the conversation). Like Niko, like Johnny, they didn't "meet" in the first mission. Luis first mission will probably be done as a private mission for Gay Tony. Maybe his first mission will be to meet Gay Tony or even work for someone else!

 

Plus, if that would be his first mission, it seems the "missions" in this episode will be shorter than (or close to) "Johnny The Jew" missions. It's just so in the middle of Niko's missions. 3/4, maybe?

 

And it was actually Luis in the Three Leaf Clover. I hate to contradict Slamman, but dude, he looks like him. Perfectly.

 

But what COULD happen is that you, while Luis is trapt in that bank, will be able to control another hitman, no? Anyone on the same page as me? That would be unlike the GTA series, but whatever is being said here is a total guess! Heck, I see Slammans point of view. The guy looks the same but he just might be his twin or some black guy who dresses up the same. It could even be Billy Bob Thorton and we wouldn't even know.

 

I'm just dazzled and confused in my mind here, keep up the good posts guys.

[foohy]

I agree that it will be Luis first mission. Why would he go there if he knew the place was being robbed and he could potentially be killed? He looks genuinely scared in the cutscene like he didn't expect it. Maybe he was tricked into going there for some reason? I dunno...that doesn't make sense either.

 

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Slamman:

It is without a doubt him in the bank.

(I didn't read the whole post seeing i'm pretty tired, so I might be wrong in the conversation). Like Niko, like Johnny, they didn't "meet" in the first mission. Luis first mission will probably be done as a private mission for Gay Tony. Maybe his first mission will be to meet Gay Tony or even work for someone else!

 

Plus, if that would be his first mission, it seems the "missions" in this episode will be shorter than (or close to) "Johnny The Jew" missions. It's just so in the middle of Niko's missions. 3/4, maybe?

 

And it was actually Luis in the Three Leaf Clover. I hate to contradict Slamman, but dude, he looks like him. Perfectly.

 

But what COULD happen is that you, while Luis is trapt in that bank, will be able to control another hitman, no? Anyone on the same page as me? That would be unlike the GTA series, but whatever is being said here is a total guess! Heck, I see Slammans point of view. The guy looks the same but he just might be his twin or some black guy who dresses up the same. It could even be Billy Bob Thorton and we wouldn't even know.

 

I'm just dazzled and confused in my mind here, keep up the good posts guys.

Now that you bring it up you've got a point...it would make his missions short. Although Luis' story could extend indefinitely past Niko and Johnny's stories. Maybe it won't be his first mission but it might be one of his early missions. Maybe he was at the bank for some kind of important business. Maybe he had a more stealthy plan to rob the bank but it did not come to fruition for obvious reasons.

Though he's probably there for Gay Tony. Maybe an earlier mission involves Gay Tony coming into some money through one of his missions he gives Luis. Luis is supposed to go to the bank and make sure the money as transferred...if it hasn't been transferred to Gay Tony's account Luis is supposed to kill whoever the money is coming from. Someone later lies to Luis (to obtain his services) and tells him that Niko and the other robbers robbed the bank in order to steal the money that was supposed to go to Gay Tony.

[Guanxi]

It's quite likely that a FLC counter-point will be the first mission of BoGT because you see the McReary's bursting out the front doors of the bank at the very end of the credits of TLAD.

[The Notorious MOB]

I wanna go back to a point somebody made earlier about there being a rat in the group that does the bank job or something like that. I recently played Gerry McReary's Mission "I need you Clothes, Your Boots and Your Motorcycle" and in the opening cutscene Gerry tells Niko that he's going to be going inside soon because there's been a car parked outside his house for a while that he believes has been monitoring him.

 

He and Niko then discuss why the cops would be onto him and Gerry says something along the lines of "I don't know who but somebody's been talkin" meaning that he thinks that somebody has been snitching on him.

So there could very well be some betrayal going on in the McReary Clan.

[foohy]

So there could very well be some betrayal going on in the McReary Clan.

Which could explain how Luis would know the bank was being robbed...or how his employer/mission giver does. I mean what are the chances that Luis would just randomly be in the same bank that's being robbed by a person (Niko) that he later attacks for stealing the diamonds? SOMEHOW either he or someone he works for knows the bank is being robbed...

 

 

I haven't played the story in a while. Maybe Derrik is snitch? Did he even know about the robbery?

[dukee152]

i think that gay tony was going to go send luis to the bank to get some money then niko and the mcrearys took it and then gay tony could not pay back who ever but it could not have been gay tony that sent him

[The Notorious MOB]

So there could very well be some betrayal going on in the McReary Clan.

Which could explain how Luis would know the bank was being robbed...or how his employer/mission giver does. I mean what are the chances that Luis would just randomly be in the same bank that's being robbed by a person (Niko) that he later attacks for stealing the diamonds? SOMEHOW either he or someone he works for knows the bank is being robbed...

 

 

I haven't played the story in a while. Maybe Derrik is snitch? Did he even know about the robbery?

Yeah Derrick was part of the Robbery..

[foohy]

So there could very well be some betrayal going on in the McReary Clan.

Which could explain how Luis would know the bank was being robbed...or how his employer/mission giver does. I mean what are the chances that Luis would just randomly be in the same bank that's being robbed by a person (Niko) that he later attacks for stealing the diamonds? SOMEHOW either he or someone he works for knows the bank is being robbed...

 

 

I haven't played the story in a while. Maybe Derrik is snitch? Did he even know about the robbery?

Yeah Derrick was part of the Robbery..

How was he involved again? Because I thought it was just Niko, Packie, Gerry, and Michael that robbed the bank? Or was it Derrik and not Gerry?

[MC.]

Derrick was with Packie, Michael and Niko during the robbery.

[The Notorious MOB]

Derrick was with Packie, Michael and Niko during the robbery.

Yeah the guys who robbed the bank were Niko, Packie, DERRICK and Michael. Derrick is the grey heard one with the Drug problem and Gerry is the kind of Red Haired guy with the beard that goes to prison.