bobgtafan Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 As the others have said, I don't think there will be any. Considering from almost day one R* stated there would be no planes, I doubt there is code for them. They already have the skins. All they have to do is and the physics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zmoonchild Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 I think the majority of the people who played GTA don't like flying (Demolition Man and Dildo Dodo, VC; Flying school and Supply Lines, SA; etc). There were (are?) tons of topics complaining about flying. Maybe this is one reason why planes aren't available? I wouldn’t be surprised if Rockstar thought that too. The minority of people who complained about flying probably caught the attention of Rockstar through this and other forums, and Rockstar in turn probably thought it represented a vast majority of people; so their response was to dumb-down GTA IV from the previous installments so that anyone could pass it: remove the fixed-wing aircraft, design the Vigilante Missions and Street Races so anyone could pass them, etc; and the end result was a game that was not that challenging… that’s just my opinion, that’s all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachinator Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 It wasn't too challenging your right. I mean I only went down in stupid circumstances when I wasn't paying attention. Or in Snow Storm... and Out of Commission. The one mission I've had the most trouble with in any GTA games was racing against Hilary in VC (Although i was like 13 at the time) I felt so satisfied when I passed that. If you make missions harder people will take longer times to finish the game, and will find it more enjoyable because of it's longevity. But to be fair I found all the games since VC have been remarkably easy. SA was a cakewalk nuff said. But if they make GTA NeXt harder, maybe this time people wont complain about stupid things like planes. And on topic. They wont add planes for BOGT cos it would require alot of engine work with Planes and DLC is based around the original GTAIV engine mechanics. Adding planes would stuff around the whole game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobgtafan Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 I really didn't find the flying missions that hard in SA or Vice. I think that was just pussies bitching that they can't do it like Viligatle missions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabaannz Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 All this talk about how it's impossible to have airplanes because of the new physics is totalt bullsh*t... have a look at this ... it would be a cake walk to add planes. Would they add to the storyline? no, not really... Would they add to the gameplay? hell ya... From the very beginning, GTA's have been popular because of the freedom of movement and the endless possibilities of screwing around in a virtual map... once you start removing elements, you limit the players possibilites and reduce gameplay and eventually, especially when they included airplanes in previous episodes, get complaints like the ones in this thread. So sure, they might not be essential to the storyline, or be nessesary on a map like this, but you should be given the choice. They'd add variety and enjoyment to a game that's is supposed to be about endless possibilities. And for those who say they're too controversial... R*'s business model is based on controversy and gimmie a break, 911 happened over 8 years ago... hell, GTA 3 came out a month after 911 and had a plane so that argument is BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dippyladida Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 i have heard that there is a code in GTA IV for some airplanes. So it might just be possible to add an airplane into GTA IV by BoGT. Yes there is one airport but who cares about landing? Flying a plane, doing stunts, and having a fun time is the reason that people complain about the lack of aircraft. Also in GTA III there was a plane included, and the past liberty city was a tad bit smaller. So why not? I am not asking about some crazy sh*t like an aircraft carrier, or a F-16 Falcon, just a simple leer jet and Dodo. on the plus side you can bail out at a crazy hieght to witness the grueling death of the protagonist, or land safely at the airport. As i said in another thread the airport in this game is a dead zone, lets make it useful for something. dude they wont put in planes because they dont want to make kids adults teens (etc) to crash planes into the empire state building cause that would be like reanacting the 9 11 attack witch the twin towers arnt in the game but like doing the future attack witch will not happen because osama bin ladin died for medical reasons some other dude got accused and got hung and al qeuda is welll i dont really now about them any ways the governer or someone like the mayors i dont now tryed banning the game because it had planes on it so they disabled them and if they enable them they get arrested and the game gets banned from getting sold or bought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 To keep suggesting it's the 9/11 real world events if only partially true at best, it's because they felt there was no need to have them, it's as simple as that and been stated more then a few times based on the interviews with Sam Houser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotchMouth Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 i have heard that there is a code in GTA IV for some airplanes. So it might just be possible to add an airplane into GTA IV by BoGT. Yes there is one airport but who cares about landing? Flying a plane, doing stunts, and having a fun time is the reason that people complain about the lack of aircraft. Also in GTA III there was a plane included, and the past liberty city was a tad bit smaller. So why not? I am not asking about some crazy sh*t like an aircraft carrier, or a F-16 Falcon, just a simple leer jet and Dodo. on the plus side you can bail out at a crazy hieght to witness the grueling death of the protagonist, or land safely at the airport. As i said in another thread the airport in this game is a dead zone, lets make it useful for something. dude they wont put in planes because they dont want to make kids adults teens (etc) to crash planes into the empire state building cause that would be like reanacting the 9 11 attack witch the twin towers arnt in the game but like doing the future attack witch will not happen because osama bin ladin died for medical reasons some other dude got accused and got hung and al qeuda is welll i dont really now about them any ways the governer or someone like the mayors i dont now tryed banning the game because it had planes on it so they disabled them and if they enable them they get arrested and the game gets banned from getting sold or bought What would be so wrong with crashing a plane into a building in LC? Its not like the building will catch fire or collapse. The only fatality would be your own for crashing into it. The whole theory that there were no planes in GTA IV because of an event that occured in 2001 is merely an old wives tale. If that were the case why would we have planes in any GTA game post 9/11? If they deemed a potential crash would be too horrible/controversial in LC then they would have to be logically consistent and deem that to horrible/controversial in VC and SA. That said you would have far less fatalities crashing into a building in GTA then you would flying down a crowded street in a Infernus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 As the others have said, I don't think there will be any. Considering from almost day one R* stated there would be no planes, I doubt there is code for them. YES, basically, All we have from Rockstar is Sam Houser explaining the size and scoped of Liberty prompted THEM to say "Where would you fly TO?!?!" Their answer was to omit air travel. They didn't look at what gamers were demanding, because they may have already been assuming. Either way, it's really doubtful to change at this point, but keep in mind, there will be other GTAs and certainly likelyhood to bring planes back, the missions in SanAn were pretty fun in that regard, and landing aircraft on highways is good fun! Chases from the military, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkn008 Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 helll noooooooooooooooo LMAO ID LOVE IT BUT R* wont do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CryptReaperDorian Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 The Skimmer in Dildo Dodo was pretty clumsy, but the mission wasn't too difficult. In GTA SA I don't see how people can't pass the flying school. After your second, if not, third run through GTA SA you'll pass the flying missions with flying colors. I remember N.O.E. was very hard for me in the first and second run of GTA SA, but on my third run I beated it on my first try. Also, on my third run, I didn't worry about the time, took a couple of minutes trying to take down atleast one Hydra (which I wasn't able to do), and I still got back to the Verdant Meadows in time. If you do enough flying in a GTA game you should become pretty good in no time. Seems that some are unlucky and still can't get the hang of flying even after excessive practice. We need a Skimmer, but based off a faster model like the Cessna 172. The Cessna 152, the original Dodo/Skimmer, only goes from like 120-130 mph. The Cessna 172 goes I believe atleast 180 mph, which is still not as fast as a helicopter in GTA IV, but it's close enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaii-5-O Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 i'd get a chuby if i saw a plane in MP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaWJ Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 omg id be happy to see any type of plane in GTA4. As long as it flies high and is fast ill be happy. heck give me a skimmer or a dodo , i dont care. The planes in SA were so much fun, i think adding them into the game would expand freedom and gameplay a bunch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDavid Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 I'm guessing Rockstar isn't adding planes because of the whole New York City scheme. I wish for planes to return. But it isn't happening... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foohy Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 I'd say if any plane was added it would be a shamal since there are already about a dozen textured-but-useless ones at the airport and a private jet would fit more into the story than anything else. Though if planes are added there would probably be more than one so maybe a dodo or a navada? Though planes are improbably...I think the most we can hope for is more helicopters. I'd like a leviathan, raindance, sea sparrow, or little willie. @TheDavid I used to thank that too. Then someone laid it our for me that that just doesn't make sense. Also R* seems to love controversy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CryptReaperDorian Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 (edited) I'd say if any plane was added it would be a shamal since there are already about a dozen textured-but-useless ones at the airport and a private jet would fit more into the story than anything else. Though if planes are added there would probably be more than one so maybe a dodo or a navada? Though planes are improbably...I think the most we can hope for is more helicopters. I'd like a leviathan, raindance, sea sparrow, or little willie. @TheDavid I used to thank that too. Then someone laid it our for me that that just doesn't make sense. Also R* seems to love controversy. Yeah, R* loves to piss off lawyers and politicians. The penis in TLAD, the opening scene in GTA IV, the cup of Hot Coffee the Statue of Happiness is holding, and so on were most likely to piss off lawyers and politicians. Like I said once, Jack Thompson is one of those people you love to hate. He is somebody you just want to beat the sh*t out of, but at the same time GTA would probably not be the same without him bitching off. His ignorance is f*cking hillarious. I also love the Little Willie from GTA VCS. I know it isn't a Hunter, but its small design made it very fun to shoot people and vehicles. I remember my friend spent a couple of hours shooting everything on the streets with the Little Willie. Its gun is still a little better than the SeaSparrow's in GTA VCS and it's easier to handle. The Little Willie is actually called a gyrocopter, and from what understand isn't really considered to be a helicopter, but who really gives a sh*t? Edited June 25, 2009 by CryptReaperDorian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foohy Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 I'd say if any plane was added it would be a shamal since there are already about a dozen textured-but-useless ones at the airport and a private jet would fit more into the story than anything else. Though if planes are added there would probably be more than one so maybe a dodo or a navada? Though planes are improbably...I think the most we can hope for is more helicopters. I'd like a leviathan, raindance, sea sparrow, or little willie. @TheDavid I used to thank that too. Then someone laid it our for me that that just doesn't make sense. Also R* seems to love controversy. Yeah, R* loves to piss off lawyers and politicians. The penis in TLAD, the opening scene in GTA IV, the cup of Hot Coffee the Statue of Happiness is holding, and so on were most likely to piss off lawyers and politicians. Like I said once, Jack Thompson is one of those people you love to hate. He is somebody you just want to beat the sh*t out of, but at the same time GTA would probably not be the same without him bitching off. His ignorance is f*cking hillarious. Yep. The dodo was taken out of III because 9/11 had just happened and people were still grieving and such. But now the only people that would be up in arms would be politicians. So on with the planes, R*!! I also love the Little Willie from GTA VCS. I know it isn't a Hunter, but its small design made it very fun to shoot people and vehicles. I remember my friend spent a couple of hours shooting everything on the streets with the Little Willie. Its gun is still a little better than the SeaSparrow's in GTA VCS and it's easier to handle. The Little Willie is actually called a gyrocopter, and from what understand isn't really considered to be a helicopter, but who really gives a sh*t? I know! That little thing is awesome! I don't really see it fitting in the story really but who knows? Either way it'd be awesome in IV!! Speaking of which I have no idea why I'm getting involved in the BoGT section when I have a PS3 Subconscious optimism I guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CryptReaperDorian Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 I know, I'm also on the PS3. It's just that we're GTA fans and we like to stay current on GTA news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foohy Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 I know, I'm also on the PS3. It's just that we're GTA fans and we like to stay current on GTA news. Yea I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floof Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Yep. The dodo was taken out of III because 9/11 had just happened and people were still grieving and such. But now the only people that would be up in arms would be politicians. So on with the planes, R*!! Have you ever even played III? It has like 5 dodos at the end of the airport the you can fly. They are just a pain in the ass compared to SA, always fall in the water. Planes just wouldn't work in IV, besides I hydra, I'd take that anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foohy Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Yep. The dodo was taken out of III because 9/11 had just happened and people were still grieving and such. But now the only people that would be up in arms would be politicians. So on with the planes, R*!! Have you ever even played III? It has like 5 dodos at the end of the airport the you can fly. They are just a pain in the ass compared to SA, always fall in the water. Planes just wouldn't work in IV, besides I hydra, I'd take that anywhere. Yea that's what I meant to say. They weren't taken out they just had their wing clipped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Pagliaro Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 GTAIV's LC is big enough for a Dodo plane. However all most DLC is already on the disk is it not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PearlHarborPants Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Just one plane...The plane that you can see flying around LC...THAT ALL... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guns N R0se Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Take a chopper and fly across the city. It's so fast. How can you justify needing a plane? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CryptReaperDorian Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Take a chopper and fly across the city. It's so fast. How can you justify needing a plane? People aren't necessarily asking for a plane that goes faster than a helicopter. People are mostly asking for a plane for stunts like flips, barrel rolls, and barnstorming. I think there should be two planes. Skimmer: For those who want to fly a plane and land in a lot safer spot than the other option, on the water. It would be based off the Cessna 172, no longer the Cessna 151 (as that only goes about 120-130 mph), which could go about 180 mph which is a little slower than a helicopter in GTA IV (about the speed of a NRG-900). Stunt Plane: For those who don't care if they land safely or know where to land safely on land. It would be superior to the Skimmer in its ability to pull off stunts. It's based off the Pitts Special which goes 210 mph, about the same speed of the helicopters in GTA IV. A Shamal wouldn't work as it's based off a jet that goes 403 mph and a jet that goes 527 mph. They always could make it way slower for the game (like they did for GTA SA), but it just wouldn't fit too well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobgtafan Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 If you can't fly in flying school you just suck at GTA really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukee152 Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 u cant have a f*cking dodo or anything like that because there is only one airport it is not really that fun i would bet if r* would to put any plane i bet it will be a sea plane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blingy Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 sh*t. All I really want is my Dodo back... Or my baby back in Vice City. The Hunter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foohy Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Odds are we won't be seeing any planes at any point in IV's future. Maybe in the next full GTA game but not IV. In the slim, slim, SLIM chance that we do we will either see a Dodo or some otherwise small, slow aircraft. Like an ultralight or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masturmind Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 It'll come in the next Vice City, which has more airfields and even an airbase... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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