A MANSION

[El Zilcho]

I think it would be awesome if we ended up with an awesome place with a garage, a helipad with helicopter and it would be cool if we had our own chauffer that you could use like roman's taxi service and Brucie's heliride service, so you call up your chauffer and you can chose from abilities either heli ride or limo (if hes in helicopter he meets you at nearest helipad like brucie or at your safehouse) you then get in and I reacon that if your in the limo on the journey you should be able to watch the tv on the journey, then once you arrive you can get him to wait so if you want you can get back in and go somewhere else.

Bet you it won't happen, but I'd love it to bits if it did. Just imagine it!

[stinomontana]

I think it would be awesome if we ended up with an awesome place with a garage, a helipad with helicopter and it would be cool if we had our own chauffer that you could use like roman's taxi service and Brucie's heliride service, so you call up your chauffer and you can chose from abilities either heli ride or limo (if hes in helicopter he meets you at nearest helipad like brucie or at your safehouse) you then get in and I reacon that if your in the limo on the journey you should be able to watch the tv in the limo, then once you arrive you can get him to wait so if you want, you can get back in and go somewhere else.

now thats the highlife

im 80% sure we will have a house with a garage

cause whats the point with making garage's that open up and got workbenches n stuff inside

if only peds can use em

 

[XZGamer71]

I think it would be awesome if we ended up with an awesome place with a garage, a helipad with helicopter and it would be cool if we had our own chauffer that you could use like roman's taxi service and Brucie's heliride service, so you call up your chauffer and you can chose from abilities either heli ride or limo (if hes in helicopter he meets you at nearest helipad like brucie or at your safehouse) you then get in and I reacon that if your in the limo on the journey you should be able to watch the tv in the limo, then once you arrive you can get him to wait so if you want, you can get back in and go somewhere else.

now thats the highlife

im 80% sure we will have a house with a garage

cause whats the point with making garage's that open up and got workbenches n stuff inside

if only peds can use em

Peds Have Lives.

 

Anyways it would be cool with a Chauffer. Also i would love to watch TV in a Limo, Limo exclusive I'm Rich Version!!!!!!!!!! I love that show. It's ridiculously funny. I also like watching Las Venturas Poker (Simply because it has a lot of San Andreas in it and it's almost orgasmic hearing that in IV.)

[BikerAndy]

I don't think a mansion either, but I love the idea of a star junction penthouse! And for those that said there wouldn't be underground parking, there is what looks like an underground car park across the street from the end of the road your safehouse (Niko) is in, in Alderney. It's got security shutters across the entrances so you cant get in it, but there may be more that can be opened in dlc...

[stinomontana]

if we dont get a mansion or a normal house with a garage i will be pissed

 

[Slamman]

...I hope not literally on that front!

 

The thing about GTA that was mentioned, they can change the buildings, more then the landscape would be. But they could also add onto what is there to begin with.

 

I love referencing any interviews that were already out there on the game, and the week of release Aaron Garbut gave a great interview, He had said that the game location and map were laid out initially, then the missions were put in on top, moved around and fit into what was there already, so they still likely do that with each DLC as well. It would require changing their development practice to go about it in a different manner, and remember, there's more then a few people on the RN team, about 200 to 250 I believe

[Sergi]

Well mansions aren't very common in NY if you're speaking on mansions you'd see in say L.A. or Miami. The NY high lifestyle is much different. Penthouses are what the major people usually live in. While obviously there is mansions in say Staten Island and in the Bronx and the such most highrise penthouses can cost as much as a big mansion in L.A. I hope that this high lifestyle is a look at something R* will expand on in future GTA games. In VC and SA I felt that I was a rich gangster but it never really felt like I was really powerful. I hope that in future GTA's the Empire Building is deeply expanded upon and maybe in TBoGT we get our 1st real look at an expanded Empire Building and rich lifestlye options.

 

Personally I'd much rather have things like you can purchase expensive jewelry, buy cars, buy expensive clothes, maybe a nice penthouse or 2 and have GFs that resemble your lifestyle so you actually look like somebody important.

[Slamman]

Upstate NY, that's where the Big Players are, but that's correct. Ask Donald Trump, or Donald Love.... Love Media.

The whole premise behind GTA4 was not to grow wealth. "rags to better rags, not riches" Most who've followed the series know this, but now expecting a change with the latest DLC? I don't think that's something they have in mind.

 

That's not to say they don't monitor feedback, and long it's felt Rockstar staff often browse these very forums, where else better to get a handle on hardcore fan reaction, after all!

[MarshDanni]

It would be pretty

[Algonquin Assassin]

In VC and SA I felt that I was a rich gangster but it never really felt like I was really powerful. I hope that in future GTA's the Empire Building is deeply expanded upon and maybe in TBoGT we get our 1st real look at an expanded Empire Building and rich lifestlye options.

 

I got that feeling too. In VC, and SA you do feel rich, but not very powerful. I think it's due to to fact that the mansions you obtained are taken over. If we could've bought them I would've felt that I actually made it.

 

I'm not expecting a mansion in TBOGT. Maybe a nice house similar to Faustin's, and Pegorino's, but more than likely it'll be a penthouse. Although I would much rather be able to buy it than have it given to me on a silver platter.

[bobgtafan]

The story will probably be riches to rags for gay tony and luis has to come along for the ride. GTA 4 was rags to better rags. Lost and Damned was rags to nothing so BoGT should be riches to rags or fake riches to nothing or rags. That said we might get a penthouse at first at a club but it will probably be repossed early in the game.

[Algonquin Assassin]

Maybe it'll be riches to rags, back to riches again?

[Sergi]

Upstate NY, that's where the Big Players are, but that's correct. Ask Donald Trump, or Donald Love.... Love Media.

The whole premise behind GTA4 was not to grow wealth. "rags to better rags, not riches" Most who've followed the series know this, but now expecting a change with the latest DLC? I don't think that's something they have in mind.

 

That's not to say they don't monitor feedback, and long it's felt Rockstar staff often browse these very forums, where else better to get a handle on hardcore fan reaction, after all!

What GTA have you been playing then? The only GTA that had the rags to slightly better rags premise was IV and in that I wouldn't call an illegal immigrant with over $500,000 by game's end, a nice penthouse suite and the option for another penthouse suite, and by your decision either a up and coming drug operation or an up and coming partnership with your cousin so if R* considered that rags to slightly better rags then what would rags and stay rags would have been like? In GTA VC, SA and VCS the premise was to become rich and powerful mobsters and while that came true you never quite felt powerful and I guess you could blame that on the technology. Now with newer technology that feeling of power can be accessible. Maybe not to the point where most want it but it can be started off this gen and really expanded upon next gen. People become criminals to get out of situations they are in mainly being broke or because they were raised in that enviroment. You don't become a criminal to be broke and that's what the GTA series should follow.

 

 

[Slamman]

Obviously money that you can't spend has been an issue for the players, but I am just telling you what Rockstar said before the game really came out, I believe, if I recall the timeline. They stated that it was not about owning the town, just being a pawn in said town, but of course, he gets to improve his station a bit, that's hard to not have happen when you're living the criminal life. The fact he gets into covert ops keeps him out of jail, as well....Roman

[bobgtafan]

Upstate NY, that's where the Big Players are, but that's correct. Ask Donald Trump, or Donald Love.... Love Media.

The whole premise behind GTA4 was not to grow wealth. "rags to better rags, not riches" Most who've followed the series know this, but now expecting a change with the latest DLC? I don't think that's something they have in mind.

 

That's not to say they don't monitor feedback, and long it's felt Rockstar staff often browse these very forums, where else better to get a handle on hardcore fan reaction, after all!

What GTA have you been playing then? The only GTA that had the rags to slightly better rags premise was IV and in that I wouldn't call an illegal immigrant with over $500,000 by game's end, a nice penthouse suite and the option for another penthouse suite, and by your decision either a up and coming drug operation or an up and coming partnership with your cousin so if R* considered that rags to slightly better rags then what would rags and stay rags would have been like? In GTA VC, SA and VCS the premise was to become rich and powerful mobsters and while that came true you never quite felt powerful and I guess you could blame that on the technology. Now with newer technology that feeling of power can be accessible. Maybe not to the point where most want it but it can be started off this gen and really expanded upon next gen. People become criminals to get out of situations they are in mainly being broke or because they were raised in that enviroment. You don't become a criminal to be broke and that's what the GTA series should follow.

Well if you look at the end of the game for Niko even though he has half a million he lost someone close to him, killed dozens of people, and only gained money which he can't spend it on. Not only that but he is worried about his soul. Saying all of that he really didn't get "riches" rich is millions he was only slightly better off as far as money. And riches also refers to the state in which you live compared to the previous state. Considering his future wife ( ugh) or his cousion died and he still probably has a price on his head he really is only slightly better off. That's why it's only rags to better rags. And like the past post said it's amazing he hasn't gone to jail.

[Sergi]

Upstate NY, that's where the Big Players are, but that's correct. Ask Donald Trump, or Donald Love.... Love Media.

The whole premise behind GTA4 was not to grow wealth. "rags to better rags, not riches" Most who've followed the series know this, but now expecting a change with the latest DLC? I don't think that's something they have in mind.

 

That's not to say they don't monitor feedback, and long it's felt Rockstar staff often browse these very forums, where else better to get a handle on hardcore fan reaction, after all!

What GTA have you been playing then? The only GTA that had the rags to slightly better rags premise was IV and in that I wouldn't call an illegal immigrant with over $500,000 by game's end, a nice penthouse suite and the option for another penthouse suite, and by your decision either a up and coming drug operation or an up and coming partnership with your cousin so if R* considered that rags to slightly better rags then what would rags and stay rags would have been like? In GTA VC, SA and VCS the premise was to become rich and powerful mobsters and while that came true you never quite felt powerful and I guess you could blame that on the technology. Now with newer technology that feeling of power can be accessible. Maybe not to the point where most want it but it can be started off this gen and really expanded upon next gen. People become criminals to get out of situations they are in mainly being broke or because they were raised in that enviroment. You don't become a criminal to be broke and that's what the GTA series should follow.

Well if you look at the end of the game for Niko even though he has half a million he lost someone close to him, killed dozens of people, and only gained money which he can't spend it on. Not only that but he is worried about his soul. Saying all of that he really didn't get "riches" rich is millions he was only slightly better off as far as money. And riches also refers to the state in which you live compared to the previous state. Considering his future wife ( ugh) or his cousion died and he still probably has a price on his head he really is only slightly better off. That's why it's only rags to better rags. And like the past post said it's amazing he hasn't gone to jail.

Well for one if you're an illegal immigrant from a war torn country I'm pretty sure you'd consider half a million and a penthouse suite being rich. Also that whole Niko worried about his soul just seemed as bad writing to me. I mean I understand it's a video game yet why would they keep bringing up the fact Niko didn't like what he was doing it yet every mission revolved around him doing what he loathed and as long as he got money he didn't care until he had to talk about it again. Now if they would have held off Niko didn't want to live that life until the very end and he was forced back in at because he had to avenge 1 of those 2 people it would have made sense. So yes I'm pretty sure anybody who looked at Niko's situation would consider him rich if you see where he came from.

 

Also he didn't go to jail for 2 obvious reasons. The 1st is because it's a video game and it would have made no sense. The 2nd is because like all past GTA characters homicide is a daily thing and they know how to get away with it. If they get caught up then some shady federal agency steps in. The CIA in CJ's case or what ever UL was a front for in Niko's case

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[imthatkiwiguy]

It would be pretty cool if rockstar went all out on a really cool mansion interior. It would be cool if you got Faustins or Pegorino's house/mansion after they got killed. Or maybe instead of a mansion we got a real cool place to hangout like the lost clubhouse, except it could be one of Tony's clubs, where when you walk past people know your name and there are things to do like pool and gambling and TV, and it doesn't burn down in the end. It would be real cool if Tony died or something and you got left with his crumbling empire and got to build it back up and the game took the direction of GTA VCS with whole empire thing and protecting it building it up. That wold give you something to do once the game ends.

[Mafioso86]

I dunno about a mansion, maybe though. I honestly have a feeling Luis will start off with his sh*tty apartment in the Northwood PJs and then later maybe be allowed to use some of Tony's nicer facilities. I kinda think his status as being a bit of an outsider to the scene in which he's working (he's from the hood, but he's working with a bunch of filthy rich club kids) might play into the story. We'll just have to wait and see though.

 

As far as Luis having less appeal than Johnny... I think that's way off the mark. While I was excited about playing as Johnny if you told me to choose between outlaw biker from Jersey and Dominican gangsta from Washington Heights... I'd pick Luis in a heartbeat. Maybe it's because I'm from New York and I'm a Spanish major... but that character sounds a lot more appealing to me than a biker. I think the real problem, if any could be the title. I've talked to a number of people that just saw the press release and skimmed over it and were under the impression that you would be playing as Gay Tony. None of them seem turned off about it... but it kinda makes me think that the more mainstream audience who would probably like Luis a lot, will make the same mistake and pass the game by. Not necessarily out of homophobia... but more of them thinking it will just be more of a joke game about something they aren't super interested in. That all said, I admire the hell out of R* for going with the title... it's funny as sh*t and fits with their image of being daredevils. I just hope it works out ok for them. I mean I'm psyched for it, but I'm one guy.

[blaisey boi]

i think possibly if you kill gay tony, if the story goes past killing jimmy P, he could quiet possibly have one that u earn like playboys if you killed him and brians.

[italics560]

So a underground fighting, drug dealer cohorting, badass Dominican thug isn't cool?

 

The fight-club thing maybe. The drug dealing thing has been done by pretty much every GTA character.

 

I have nothing against Dominicans whatsoever but I don't care what you say, there isn't a single person in the world who is going to react to "Dominican" like they do "Biker".

 

Again, the word "biker" is all you need to know about "TLaD". Luis just doesn't have that same appeal. There's really no denying it.

okay, lets replace Dominican with "Tough as nails-illegal-street fighting-Drug Dealing-Bouncer"

 

*thinks* yeah, that might work

[darkn008]

hes a bouncer and a thug for god sake. he probably lives in the projects in north wood and travels to tonys place which might be a penthouse

[Lotek]

hes a bouncer and a thug for god sake. he probably lives in the projects in north wood and travels to tonys place which might be a penthouse

And Tont gets taken down so Luis gets his mansion.

[shinsta312]

i think possibly if you kill gay tony, if the story goes past killing jimmy P, he could quiet possibly have one that u earn like playboys if you killed him and brians.

I don't think Gay Tony is gonna die, at least not by Luis. Secondly, Gay Tony is broke.

[shinsta312]

It would be pretty cool if rockstar went all out on a really cool mansion interior. It would be cool if you got Faustins or Pegorino's house/mansion after they got killed. Or maybe instead of a mansion we got a real cool place to hangout like the lost clubhouse, except it could be one of Tony's clubs, where when you walk past people know your name and there are things to do like pool and gambling and TV, and it doesn't burn down in the end. It would be real cool if Tony died or something and you got left with his crumbling empire and got to build it back up and the game took the direction of GTA VCS with whole empire thing and protecting it building it up. That wold give you something to do once the game ends.

There are a couple of flaws with your idea.

 

1. Faustin has no relation with the Ancelottis, Gay Tony, or Luis. So I don't see any reason Luis would take it.

 

2. For nightclubs like the Maisonette 9 and Hercules, I don't see gambling or pool as a possibility.

 

3. I don't think Gay tony is going to die. Even if he did die, he doesn't have an empire. He's broke and the clubs are shut down at the end of the game. He's not some powerful figure in the city, just a noticeable one.

 

4. The "Taking over the world" and "Rags-To-Riches" storyline is overrated and unrealistic in GTA IV.

[foohy]

4. The "Taking over the world" and "Rags-To-Riches" storyline is overrated and unrealistic in GTA IV.

Ahh!! There's that word again!!

[stinomontana]

It would be pretty cool if rockstar went all out on a really cool mansion interior. It would be cool if you got Faustins or Pegorino's house/mansion after they got killed. Or maybe instead of a mansion we got a real cool place to hangout like the lost clubhouse, except it could be one of Tony's clubs, where when you walk past people know your name and there are things to do like pool and gambling and TV, and it doesn't burn down in the end. It would be real cool if Tony died or something and you got left with his crumbling empire and got to build it back up and the game took the direction of GTA VCS with whole empire thing and protecting it building it up. That wold give you something to do once the game ends.

There are a couple of flaws with your idea.

 

1. Faustin has no relation with the Ancelottis, Gay Tony, or Luis. So I don't see any reason Luis would take it.

 

2. For nightclubs like the Maisonette 9 and Hercules, I don't see gambling or pool as a possibility.

 

3. I don't think Gay tony is going to die. Even if he did die, he doesn't have an empire. He's broke and the clubs are shut down at the end of the game. He's not some powerful figure in the city, just a noticeable one.

 

4. The "Taking over the world" and "Rags-To-Riches" storyline is overrated and unrealistic in GTA IV.

euh ''taking over the world''? and what gta are u talking about?

the biggest thing we ever ''took over'' whas vice city and a part of los santos and stuff

i dont think thats unreastic

 

 

is their a reason the clubs get shutdown?

i dont know it but mabye cause illigal gambling

 

 

and another thing if i was in niko's place and i have 500 000 on my bankaccount

then im not gonne live in a appartment

i would sell it all and buy a freaking mansion

i think most people would

and the rich part of alderney hasnt been used much

[Feral Slug]

i just hope we get a nice freestanding house with a garage, or at least a driveway.

[FFRJ]

It would be pretty cool if rockstar went all out on a really cool mansion interior. It would be cool if you got Faustins or Pegorino's house/mansion after they got killed. Or maybe instead of a mansion we got a real cool place to hangout like the lost clubhouse, except it could be one of Tony's clubs, where when you walk past people know your name and there are things to do like pool and gambling and TV, and it doesn't burn down in the end. It would be real cool if Tony died or something and you got left with his crumbling empire and got to build it back up and the game took the direction of GTA VCS with whole empire thing and protecting it building it up. That wold give you something to do once the game ends.

There are a couple of flaws with your idea.

 

1. Faustin has no relation with the Ancelottis, Gay Tony, or Luis. So I don't see any reason Luis would take it.

 

2. For nightclubs like the Maisonette 9 and Hercules, I don't see gambling or pool as a possibility.

 

3. I don't think Gay tony is going to die. Even if he did die, he doesn't have an empire. He's broke and the clubs are shut down at the end of the game. He's not some powerful figure in the city, just a noticeable one.

 

4. The "Taking over the world" and "Rags-To-Riches" storyline is overrated and unrealistic in GTA IV.

euh ''taking over the world''? and what gta are u talking about?

the biggest thing we ever ''took over'' whas vice city and a part of los santos and stuff

i dont think thats unreastic

 

 

is their a reason the clubs get shutdown?

i dont know it but mabye cause illigal gambling

 

 

and another thing if i was in niko's place and i have 500 000 on my bankaccount

then im not gonne live in a appartment

i would sell it all and buy a freaking mansion

i think most people would

and the rich part of alderney hasnt been used much

You have the same view on this that I do. Congratuations for being on the right side! lol

[shinsta312]

 

It would be pretty cool if rockstar went all out on a really cool mansion interior. It would be cool if you got Faustins or Pegorino's house/mansion after they got killed. Or maybe instead of a mansion we got a real cool place to hangout like the lost clubhouse, except it could be one of Tony's clubs, where when you walk past people know your name and there are things to do like pool and gambling and TV, and it doesn't burn down in the end. It would be real cool if Tony died or something and you got left with his crumbling empire and got to build it back up and the game took the direction of GTA VCS with whole empire thing and protecting it building it up. That wold give you something to do once the game ends.

There are a couple of flaws with your idea.

 

1. Faustin has no relation with the Ancelottis, Gay Tony, or Luis. So I don't see any reason Luis would take it.

 

2. For nightclubs like the Maisonette 9 and Hercules, I don't see gambling or pool as a possibility.

 

3. I don't think Gay tony is going to die. Even if he did die, he doesn't have an empire. He's broke and the clubs are shut down at the end of the game. He's not some powerful figure in the city, just a noticeable one.

 

4. The "Taking over the world" and "Rags-To-Riches" storyline is overrated and unrealistic in GTA IV.

euh ''taking over the world''? and what gta are u talking about?

the biggest thing we ever ''took over'' whas vice city and a part of los santos and stuff

i dont think thats unreastic

 

 

is their a reason the clubs get shutdown?

i dont know it but mabye cause illigal gambling

 

 

and another thing if i was in niko's place and i have 500 000 on my bankaccount

then im not gonne live in a appartment

i would sell it all and buy a freaking mansion

i think most people would

and the rich part of alderney hasnt been used much

 

Just another way to say that you win and you're rich, and you've take over all the territory of some place or whatever. But it's unrealistic because you can't expect anybody in real life to do that.

 

It's mentioned on the in-game internet website that the clubs were closed down due to drug dealings within the two clubs.

 

The thing is, with IV, you are able to get at least 500,000 dollars. But i don't know if you'll get even half of that amount on TBOGT. Plus, Niko never bought any of his apartments or safehouses. They were given to him. Roman bought the fancy apartment in Middle Park East, but it wasn't taken out of your money.

[Znd]

Why are people calling those upper-middle class houses in Alderney mansions?

 

Lol, an upper-middle class house in Alderney is pretty anti-climactic if you ask me.

 

Now, if they had a huge countryside beyond the Francis Airport, then they could do a version of the Hamptons-where some of the wealthiest people in the world live-and THOSE would be some mansions.

 

But they don't have that in there.

 

Trust me, in real life, a simple condo in Algonquin/Manhattan is MUCH more expensive and high profile than a modest middle class house in Alderney/New Jersey