Versityle Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 (edited) A while back, I took the liberty (no pun intended) to divide the original Grand Theft Auto IV into seven chapters. I based the chapters on the major "turning points" in the game of where the story shifts in a whole new direction. I mentioned this in another thread as well but I'll have to repeat it here. This of course is not official, it's just my interpretation of the story and how it's divided. In between each chapter of course you can play missions in a mixed order but the end of the chapter would remain as such (with the exception of "The Hollad Play") Also, I'm listing only the ending mission of each chapter. Chapter 1: Uncle Vlad Chapter 2: Russian Revolution Chapter 3: The Snow Storm Chapter 4: The Holland Play Chapter 5: Weekend at Florian's Chapter 6: That Special Someone Chapter 7: The Finale So what does this have to do with the DLC's? When "The Lost and Damned" came out I studied the chronogly and assuming that Luis would be the next protagonist, which we now know he is, I came to a conclusion although I still have yet to be wrong. TLAD began I believe inbetween Chapter's 1 and 2 respectively, (Niko was working for Faustin when he killed Jason)and ended by the end of chapter 5 respectively. (Niko found Florian) So that means it ran for a total of 4 chapters. (Ch's 2-5) So going on an educated guess, I assume Luis' story will also run for 4 of the seven chapters. (Ch's 3-6) It'll likely begin around the time where Niko moves to Bohan which of course is the beginning of Ch 3 after "Russian Revolution", and end around the time Niko chooses Darko's fate in "That Special Someone" So now let's look at it. - Ch's 1 and 7 are DLC free. - Ch's 2 and 3 debut a new character - Ch's 5 and 6 end to two characters in the order they were debuted - Ch 4 is the connecting chapter and the middle of all three stories where no one debuts or ends. Other notes: - Near the beginning of IV, Niko shares one solo mission with Johnny. (Blow Your Cover) - Near the ending of IV Niko shares one solo mission with Luis. (Diamond's Are a Girl's Best Friend) - Both Jonny and Luis have a solo encounter as well. (Diamond's in the Rough) - All three characters meet in between all of this (Museum Piece/Collector's Item) - There's also an extra encounter with Luis (Three Leaf Clover) and one with Ashley from The Lost MC (Taking in the Trash). So conents of the list would look something like this: Ch1 - Debut of Niko: The story of Liberty City begins. Ch2 - Debut of Johnny: Niko has killed Vlad and is working for Faustin and Dimitri Ch3 - Debut of Luis: Niko's working in Bohan. Johnny is still doing his thing with Billy as President Ch4 - Niko, Johnny, and Luis are doing there thing. Ch5 - Conclusion of Johnny: Niko must now find Darko. Luis' story is probably shifting at this point. Ch6 - Conclusion of Luis: Niko has found Darko and either kills him or let's him live Ch7 - Conclusion of Niko: And of the whole Liberty City chronology until the events of Chinatown Wars. EDIT: This also means that all three character's will run through a total of the three middle chapters (3-5). And also, Niko will share one chapter alone with each DLC protagonist. It makes sense for the game to begin and end with Niko as he is the main character of the main game. So I hope I'm right about all of this. Feel free to rebuttle because it's still just a hunch. Edited May 28, 2009 by Versityle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versityle Posted May 28, 2009 Author Share Posted May 28, 2009 It's also amazing to see how contrasting the logo's and potential stories are and how it all somehow connects with each other. No one can do it like Rockstar can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manofpeace Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 Ch7 - Conclusion of Niko: And of the whole Liberty City chronology until the events of Chinatown Wars. Don't forget the events of GTA2, in 2013. Personally, I think there may be a bit of a prologue for Luis to show how he got his job at the club and such and don't forget the mission where you meet French Tom for the date from Lovemeet.net. He had some connections at the club as well and Gay Tony may have been informed about his assassination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xboxless Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 You know what, are you a R* employee? J/K, that does sound VERY likely, I think you may have hit the nail on the head, GJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jas0nuk Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 I'm guessing this is spot on, assuming they add a similar number of missions to the next DLC. But the key missions that intersect with Niko/Johnny must be in chapters 3-6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Notorious MOB Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 Ch7 - Conclusion of Niko: And of the whole Liberty City chronology until the events of Chinatown Wars. Don't forget the events of GTA2, in 2013. Personally, I think there may be a bit of a prologue for Luis to show how he got his job at the club and such and don't forget the mission where you meet French Tom for the date from Lovemeet.net. He had some connections at the club as well and Gay Tony may have been informed about his assassination. I'd say this will be done with dialogue. Like one of the Characters will make reference to how he got started working with Tony and another will explain the History between Tony and Tom Rivas (they probably dated seeing as though Tom is into Rich Older Guys). This is the same thing that happened in TLAD for example when Johnny talks about making moves on his own while Billy was inside... We know he did this because he says it so we don't actually have to play it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versityle Posted May 28, 2009 Author Share Posted May 28, 2009 Ch7 - Conclusion of Niko: And of the whole Liberty City chronology until the events of Chinatown Wars. Don't forget the events of GTA2, in 2013. Personally, I think there may be a bit of a prologue for Luis to show how he got his job at the club and such and don't forget the mission where you meet French Tom for the date from Lovemeet.net. He had some connections at the club as well and Gay Tony may have been informed about his assassination. I'd say this will be done with dialogue. Like one of the Characters will make reference to how he got started working with Tony and another will explain the History between Tony and Tom Rivas (they probably dated seeing as though Tom is into Rich Older Guys). This is the same thing that happened in TLAD for example when Johnny talks about making moves on his own while Billy was inside... We know he did this because he says it so we don't actually have to play it out. Couldn't have said it better myself M.O.B. Looking at the entire arc of TLAD seems like it could be the ending chapter of a much bigger story. But being a DLC it only told us basically The end of the Alderney chapter of The Lost MC starting with Billy being released from rehab, which is perfectly fine. So the same will probably pertain to Luis. No prologue will be necessary, he'll likely already know and work for Tony and the story will progress from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zilcho Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 Great work here mate, very interesting ideas and probably quite accurate. U R B A N I T A S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Notorious MOB Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 I have a thought that is somewhat related to the Timeline of the game. I think Luis's first few missions will be in Bohan because the Leader of his gang (Willy Valerio) lives there and also it seems to be unexplored the same way Alderney was until TLAD. Obviously if we get missions from Tony from the start they will be given from one of his clubs in Algonquin but I think that The Dominican drug dealers may have a part to play in the missions Niko gets in Bohan, from Manny and Elizabeta for example. Then as the story progresses the missions will move into Northern Algonquin and may involve The North Holland Hustlers or Clarence's gang. Then as the story starts to draw to a close we will see some missions in Alderney as the Ancelottis seem to be prominent in the area towards the end of Niko's story which will also be near the end of Luis's story. Other than the start and end... somewhere in the middle but taking up the bulk of the story we will see alot of the different sides of Algonquin and it will be alot more multi dimensional than was first thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zilcho Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 I have a thought that is somewhat related to the Timeline of the game. I think Luis's first few missions will be in Bohan because the Leader of his gang (Willy Valerio) lives there and also it seems to be unexplored the same way Alderney was until TLAD. Obviously if we get missions from Tony from the start they will be given from one of his clubs in Algonquin but I think that The Dominican drug dealers may have a part to play in the missions Niko gets in Bohan, from Manny and Elizabeta for example. Then as the story progresses the missions will move into Northern Algonquin and may involve The North Holland Hustlers or Clarence's gang. Then as the story starts to draw to a close we will see some missions in Alderney as the Ancelottis seem to be prominent in the area towards the end of Niko's story which will also be near the end of Luis's story. Other than the start and end... somewhere in the middle but taking up the bulk of the story we will see alot of the different sides of Algonquin and it will be alot more multi dimensional than was first thought. I think BoGT is going to do what TLAD did for Alderney, but for Algonquin. I can really see the whole area being expanded upon, rather than just another place to do missions in, I can see it becoming a real, living, and soulful part of the city. Same for Bohan, I think Alderney will however remain as a simple mission destination for the mob orientated jobs as it's been expanded upon a lot in TLAD. U R B A N I T A S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobgtafan Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Wow that was amazing man good job. I would give you a cookie but I ate it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikerAndy Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Yeah, I'd be surprised if your wrong to be honest. Good work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerner Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 That is probably true, I think you have hit the nail on the head there, brilliant stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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