BoGT character speculation [spoilers]

[Claude4Catalina 328]

Yeah. I like the idea of Claude Wome. Maybe he could turn up as the powerhouse behind the Jewish Mob? Issac seemed pretty confident of his chances with a war with Ray Boccino, without realizing Ray had his best hitman listening in to the conversation.

 

Also wondered about the guy who appears at the very start of IV and selling the Diamonds to Tony. He didn't sound foreign(by that I mean Russian, Balkan), though he had been based on the Platypus.

Back in the days when The mafia were at their most powerful The Jewish Mafia were almost as powerful In New York as the 5 Major Families so maybe he was just confident with the power he had within his own Mob.

 

As regards to the cook.. It is common for Americans to work on an American cruise ship or whatever the Platypus was that travels around the world as cooks and cleaners so In my view it is not unusual that he isnt foreign like the passengers. I believe he is actually from Liberty City as he appears to have a native New York accent in Diamonds in the Rough. He may play a bigger part in the Diamond fiasco than we previously thought though... maybe he is working for one of the gangs in Liberty City.

 

Somewhat related to this, I noticed some things while playing "Diamonds in the Rough" and rather than creating a new topic I'll just post them here.

 

1. When the deal gets ambushed by the Lost, the Cook takes out a gun and starts firing at them. This seems pretty normal but this is what got me thinking about wether or not the cook is gang affiliated... Afterall Ray does tell Johnny that the diamonds were bought "From Wiseguys, by Wiseguys, For Wise guys" and this would suggest that the cook is the "Wiseguy" that the other Wiseguys (Luis and Tony/The Ancelottis) buy the diamonds from but this begs the question.. Who are the other Wiseguys the Diamonds are being bought for?

 

2. I previously thought that Luis's role when Johnny goes after the Limo would be to kill the remaining Lost Bikers that he leaves behind but after playing I noticed that Johnny tells the bikers to chase down Luis and Tony... Which they appear to do as they take off in the opposite direction to Johnny and go back out the way they came in (although Luis and Tony's car is not visible.. only the bikers). So this means that this mission in TBOGT will involve Luis and Tony fleeing the scene with the bikers chasing them (as opposed to the other way around).

 

3. If you get off your bike and walk towards the Platypus (to the right) rather than chasing the Limo you will see two of Tony's guys firing guns... at each other! I don't know wether this means anything but it's definitely strange.

I think we might have to kill the surrounding bikers at first (three of them isnt it?) and then escape, possibly being chased by a few Lost MC members of bikes. Maybe the two guys shooting each other could be a turning point in the story, say the two guys are high ranking gang members who have a feud with each other and one guy kills the other, and it becomes a turn for the worse, as in

a-Tony and Luis have lost the diamonds.

b-One high ranking gang member has just killed another, leaving a coup within the gang.

 

As a side note do you think that Tony will have a gang of guys, who all dress 'gay', like the bodygaurds you see in TLaD, all wearing tight-fitting 'Heat' shirts in bright neon colours. Just a thought.

 

[bobgtafan 6]

I just know Bruice is going to be in this.

[Money Over Bullshit 670]

Yeah. I like the idea of Claude Wome. Maybe he could turn up as the powerhouse behind the Jewish Mob? Issac seemed pretty confident of his chances with a war with Ray Boccino, without realizing Ray had his best hitman listening in to the conversation.

 

Also wondered about the guy who appears at the very start of IV and selling the Diamonds to Tony. He didn't sound foreign(by that I mean Russian, Balkan), though he had been based on the Platypus.

Back in the days when The mafia were at their most powerful The Jewish Mafia were almost as powerful In New York as the 5 Major Families so maybe he was just confident with the power he had within his own Mob.

 

As regards to the cook.. It is common for Americans to work on an American cruise ship or whatever the Platypus was that travels around the world as cooks and cleaners so In my view it is not unusual that he isnt foreign like the passengers. I believe he is actually from Liberty City as he appears to have a native New York accent in Diamonds in the Rough. He may play a bigger part in the Diamond fiasco than we previously thought though... maybe he is working for one of the gangs in Liberty City.

 

Somewhat related to this, I noticed some things while playing "Diamonds in the Rough" and rather than creating a new topic I'll just post them here.

 

1. When the deal gets ambushed by the Lost, the Cook takes out a gun and starts firing at them. This seems pretty normal but this is what got me thinking about wether or not the cook is gang affiliated... Afterall Ray does tell Johnny that the diamonds were bought "From Wiseguys, by Wiseguys, For Wise guys" and this would suggest that the cook is the "Wiseguy" that the other Wiseguys (Luis and Tony/The Ancelottis) buy the diamonds from but this begs the question.. Who are the other Wiseguys the Diamonds are being bought for?

 

2. I previously thought that Luis's role when Johnny goes after the Limo would be to kill the remaining Lost Bikers that he leaves behind but after playing I noticed that Johnny tells the bikers to chase down Luis and Tony... Which they appear to do as they take off in the opposite direction to Johnny and go back out the way they came in (although Luis and Tony's car is not visible.. only the bikers). So this means that this mission in TBOGT will involve Luis and Tony fleeing the scene with the bikers chasing them (as opposed to the other way around).

 

3. If you get off your bike and walk towards the Platypus (to the right) rather than chasing the Limo you will see two of Tony's guys firing guns... at each other! I don't know wether this means anything but it's definitely strange.

I think we might have to kill the surrounding bikers at first (three of them isnt it?) and then escape, possibly being chased by a few Lost MC members of bikes. Maybe the two guys shooting each other could be a turning point in the story, say the two guys are high ranking gang members who have a feud with each other and one guy kills the other, and it becomes a turn for the worse, as in

a-Tony and Luis have lost the diamonds.

b-One high ranking gang member has just killed another, leaving a coup within the gang.

 

As a side note do you think that Tony will have a gang of guys, who all dress 'gay', like the bodygaurds you see in TLaD, all wearing tight-fitting 'Heat' shirts in bright neon colours. Just a thought.

After playing the mission a few more times It seems that The guys in the "Heat" tanktops (and the gold varient) with the tracksuit bottoms are working for the cook because they seem to be the one's the Tony's guys shoot at first after the ambush and one of them calls one of Tony's guys a "Sissy" before shooting at him.

 

As regards to Tony's men I think they will wear the clothes that they are seen wearing in TLAD. It seems to be like the outfit some of the mafia guys wear only in bright sparkly colours. Maybe he has his own little gay mafia.

[destructoBoi420 0]

 

I just know Bruice is going to be in this.

for sure, Brucie is a regular at Maisonette 9 (one of Gay Tony's clubs), and a friend of Gay Tony, (he says in the mission "out of the closet" that he needs niko to kill someone for a friend of his, that someone being French Tom since he knows that Gay Tony is broke), so he will be at the club and hears that Gay Tony wants somebody killed and Brucie will say he has an "ice cold" friend of his that can do it ,lol, well thats my prediction.

[Rucke 125]

I just know Bruice is going to be in this.

for sure, Brucie is a regular at Maisonette 9 (one of Gay Tony's clubs), and a friend of Gay Tony, (he says in the mission "out of the closet" that he needs niko to kill someone for a friend of his, that someone being French Tom since he knows that Gay Tony is broke), so he will be at the club and hears that Gay Tony wants somebody killed and Brucie will say he has an "ice cold" friend of his that can do it ,lol, well thats my prediction.

Yeah I can see that happened. But I wonder if Luis is going to have something to do with it.

[i like coffee enemas 0]

Well whatever sparked it, we ain't going to be seeing it in Luis' story considering that this happens way before our first encounter with Luis. It may be explained during a conversation with Gay Tony, like, maybe they were a couple and F.T. was a bit butthurt (pun of the day? ) about the breakup and threatened to blacken his name or something so Gay Tony was forced to have him killed, I dunno. Nevertheless we deffo ain't going to be seeing F.T. in BOGT.

[Punk-in-Drublic 58]

I think we will end up seeing French Tom, the guy Niko 'dated' and excecuted, I can picture him being a regular at Tonys clubs, more so Hercules 9, or whatever its called. Then after the events of '...Out of the closet' we will hear a report from Tony saying that his friend/lover was brutally murdered inside a dirty Hove beach diner

More references to the events of Niko's story please!

[MARKUS. 667]

If Luis was a member of Northwood Dominican Drug Dealers, maybe will se Playboy X again, his bodyguards on the mission of "Holland Play" are from the same gang of Teddy's bodyguards in "Holland night", I think

Edited August 7, 2009 by Markhosdangerous

[Sicologikal 4]

Yusef Amir confirmed:

 

(guy with khimar on left)

 

 

Therefore it must be his yacht!

 

Mrs. Lopez, Luises Mother also will appear as a moral anchor for Luis.

 

 

Edited September 1, 2009 by Sicologikal

[JARRRNO 0]

Yusef Amir confirmed:

 

(guy with khimar on left)

 

 

Therefore it must be his yacht!

 

Mrs. Lopez, Luises Mother also will appear as a moral anchor for Luis.

 

Damn, I was just about to post this >_>

[KGBeast 326]

I think the guy talking to Luis, the guy with a cross on the neck might be Willy Valerio.

[Slomojoe 0]

 

Yusef Amir confirmed:

 

(guy with khimar on left)

 

 

Therefore it must be his yacht! 

 

I would love to know how this is confirmed. I'm not disagreeing but you can't just say something is confirmed because you like the idea

[darion7591 0]

Someguy who tested the game out on ign.com boards said luis had a friend name Tamir

if somebody can confirm that.?

[blowdro420 3]

proxy you should update the current pictures of the people that are confirmed. luis, ray, gay tony, etc....

[ScratchCard 7]

Proxy doesn't use this account anymore, he is now Wreckless Jake. He can't update the OP with that account.

[blowdro420 3]

ahh i see. how wreckless of him.

[shinsta312 24]

Comment Deleted.

Edited September 6, 2009 by shinsta312

[EnchantedX360 0]

Has anyone mentioned that Israeli Mossad Agent yet?

 

I forget his name...

 

He was not mentioned much on the radio, I only recall 1 time and I remember him being in the LCPD records.

[EnchantedX360 0]

The guy I was referring to is known as Rami Yalon.

 

According to the Liberty City Police Database he is a forty-six year old Israeli with links to Russian organised crime. He is believed to be ex-Israeli Special Forces and it is unclear whether he was working for the government or private interests when he was first charged with murder in America in 1985.

 

Yalon returned to Israel after carrying out contracts in order to take advantage of the country's lack of an extradition treaty with the US. He initially worked for Italian-American Mafia families until his fees became too much for them to afford. He is currently believed to be working for Russian nationalists such as Kenny Petrovic.

 

The Israeli is known to use a number of different weapons during his hits, including one time beating a man to death with his own leg.

 

I'd like to see this dude in TBoGT!

[Luis F. Lopez 0]

I saw his profile aswell, would be interesting if they had this guy show up.

[Reiji 3]

The guy giving Luis a dirty look seems like he's a member of the North Dominican Drug Dealers.

http://rockstarbase.com/imgs/TBOGT/images/PDVD_065.jpg

[OGLuke 677]

 

The guy giving Luis a dirty look seems like he's a member of the North Dominican Drug Dealers.

http://rockstarbase.com/imgs/TBOGT/images/PDVD_065.jpg

He even dresses like Luis so i'd say yeah he's ND3.

 

Has anyone else noticed that the spanishlords are guarding teddy in the long way to fall mission?

 

Maybe he betrays ND3, and joins spanish lords.

 

Alonzo is outside waiting to get punched in the face by niko so maybe he leaves ND3 with teddy and joins up as well.

 

ND3 don't sound that big of a gang anyway. but spanishlords on the otherhand are bigtime.

Edited September 14, 2009 by mr. libs

[Money Over Bullshit 670]

As far as I know Proxy Flooder has a new account so if he cant access his old account maybe he could create a new version of this topic with updated information. I'd be more than happy to do it if nobody else (more qualified) wants to but I kind of need confirmation from Proxy/Jake that 1. The old account is inaccessible (thus leaving him unable to update this topic) and 2. That he would rather somebody other than himself make the new topic.

[shinsta312 24]

 

The guy giving Luis a dirty look seems like he's a member of the North Dominican Drug Dealers.

http://rockstarbase.com/imgs/TBOGT/images/PDVD_065.jpg

It's not.

 

Gangs like ND3 don't really go to clubs like Bahama Mamas, nor do they dress like that guy.

 

If you look back on the first trailer, one of the guys who called Luis "Mr. Big Shot" and "Captain Downtown" seems to downplay Luis for making it big as a bouncer/bodyguard.

Edited September 17, 2009 by shinsta312

[Reiji 3]

The guy giving Luis a dirty look seems like he's a member of the North Dominican Drug Dealers.

http://rockstarbase.com/imgs/TBOGT/images/PDVD_065.jpg

It's not.

 

Gangs like ND3 don't really go to clubs like Bahama Mamas, nor do they dress like that guy.

 

If you look back on the first trailer, one of the guys who called Luis "Mr. Big Shot" and "Captain Downtown" seems to downplay Luis for making it big as a bouncer/bodyguard.

May never know. As much as I hate to assume things, the guy has that looks of a South American descent. Looks almost like one of my Latino friends actually.

[Luis F. Lopez 0]

Why are we saying that Alonzo from "A Long Way to Fall" is Alonso Gomez? It's not even him.

[The Capone 0]

Why are we saying that Alonzo from "A Long Way to Fall" is Alonso Gomez? It's not even him.

theres AlonZo witha z (can be killed by niko) than thers AlonSo gomez.

[Luis F. Lopez 0]

I know it's just I thought I read somone say that Alonzo with the z was Gomez.

[Luis F. Lopez 0]

This is exactly what i'm talking about, gta.wiki has it wrong:

 

http://gta.wikia.com/wiki/Alonso_Gomez

 

That's not Gomez.

[Money Over Bullshit 670]

@Wreckless Jake, This page may be useful to you when updating the list of characters.