shadowpope17 Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 What speed is that GPU fan running at? At default they at about 30%, might be worth turning that up if you havent already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyReNiUsX Posted May 24, 2009 Author Share Posted May 24, 2009 I always set up the fan manually.. I don't think auto does a good job.. whenever I'm not gaming I leave it at 40%.. but when I game, I bump it up to 70%.. anything higher then that and it gets really loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyReNiUsX Posted May 24, 2009 Author Share Posted May 24, 2009 What kind of errors would one get if they had a lack of power issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruXter Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 (edited) That's a riddle within it's self lol. but I tend to see higher temperatures in game if I pause and go to the options menu. programs open in the backround, just AIM, FRAPS, GPU-Z, and Core Temp. Kill aim. Fraps isn't the lightest of video recorders. so I hope you mean "sometimes" I don't see why you would even use 9it when the game has a 720p recorder in it already and knowing most sites can only stream max of 460p. not all but most. so you must be saying" sometimes" Aim will not slaughter your processor or ram, but it is an addition to the list of processes. idle,receiving,updating. Make sure the fan you are talking about that is aiming at the video card isn't causing a choke. meaning it's direction of flow is against the natural path of the fan for the video card, causing it to lose it's speed, reducing the amount of air actually crossing the heatinsink. Edited May 24, 2009 by TruXter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyReNiUsX Posted May 24, 2009 Author Share Posted May 24, 2009 lol my GPU temps reach around 77C after playing GTA IV for a while @ 70% Fan speed. Never above 80C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruXter Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 I normally do not exceed 55c on gpu air cooled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyReNiUsX Posted May 24, 2009 Author Share Posted May 24, 2009 I have a 700W Coolmax power supply.. According to eXtreme Power Supply Calculator Lite v2.5 it seems that I'm using about 722W.. Should I be looking to upgrade my power supply? AMD Phenom II 920 2.8Ghz ASUS M4A79 Deluxe ATI 4870 1Gb OCZ DDR2 1066 4GB of RAM Creative X-Fi Titanium PCI-E 4 7200 hard drives 1 DVD-RW 1 Floppy Drive 7 120mm fans with LED 2 Cold Cathodes 1 USB LED mouse pad, and webcam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyReNiUsX Posted May 24, 2009 Author Share Posted May 24, 2009 Nope its not interfering the airflow from the GPU cooler, its only hitting half the card where the power connecters are.. I only use FRAPS to measure FPS, I don't use it for recording I have all that disabled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anus Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 What exactly is the error you get for IV and COD5? Is it the RESC10 error for IV? Does it say anything about virtual memory? If so, set your page file accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Physicalfire Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 lol my GPU temps reach around 77C after playing GTA IV for a while @ 70% Fan speed. Never above 80C This temp is fine mate, infact I reached that temp last night on my 4870. They can go over 100c and you're nowhere near the limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruXter Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 lol my GPU temps reach around 77C after playing GTA IV for a while @ 70% Fan speed. Never above 80C This temp is fine mate, infact I reached that temp last night on my 4870. They can go over 100c and you're nowhere near the limit. 100c? That's just nuts. You could bake a potato inside your pc like that. Is that common for ATI ? Cuz that is insanely high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Physicalfire Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 lol my GPU temps reach around 77C after playing GTA IV for a while @ 70% Fan speed. Never above 80C This temp is fine mate, infact I reached that temp last night on my 4870. They can go over 100c and you're nowhere near the limit. 100c? That's just nuts. You could bake a potato inside your pc like that. Is that common for ATI ? Cuz that is insanely high. Yep ATI do generaly get high. 105ºC = acceptable 125ºC = danger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaudevillian Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 Dont listen to Physicalfire. Do not ever let your card hit those temps. Under load your card should not exceed 90C if you do, you are damaging it. if you are going above those marks put your pc in a cooler room or get better cooling for your tower. You should change the fan speeds to 100% all the time it will drop the card to around 50C idle and and 60-70 under load. Dont ask me how, look it up. It might solve your problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Physicalfire Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 Dont listen to Physicalfire. Do not ever let your card hit those temps. Under load your card should not exceed 90C if you do, you are damaging it. if you are going above those marks put your pc in a cooler room or get better cooling for your tower. You should change the fan speeds to 100% all the time it will drop the card to around 50C idle and and 60-70 under load. Dont ask me how, look it up. It might solve your problem. You're wrong, I am right. Look anyone else wants to jump on the wagon and abuse me I have a PM that I will answer to. Meet me face to face. http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=68760 Read the posts, read on ALL forums.... I'm NOT f*ckING WRONG, so STFU. I get "always" around 100C on VDDC (GPU Temps Furmark 66,75,61)with Furmark! And most guys i know are having ~100C too So i think its more or less normal and no Problem. Furmark is heavy ofcourse and you cant compare it with "Allday Gaming/Benchmarking" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruXter Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 Wow, you are all riled up on that. If you read the forum thread you posted, they are talking about a super over clocked video card Issue with that is they still have poor cooling. 100 c is ridiculousness. 150f is typical die. for about all processors .. It's not rule but it is practice. some go more, some go less. but 100c is 200f you are 50 degrees over the limit, 200f is borderline the hold limitations of solder. Unless your video card is hard welded with stainless steel, You are exceeding your capabilities by 50 F . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Physicalfire Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 Wow, you are all riled up on that. If you read the forum thread you posted, they are talking about a super over clocked video card Issue with that is they still have poor cooling. 100 c is ridiculousness. 150f is typical die. for about all processors .. It's not rule but it is practice. some go more, some go less. but 100c is 200f you are 50 degrees over the limit, 200f is borderline the hold limitations of solder. Unless your video card is hard welded with stainless steel, You are exceeding your capabilities by 50 F . So you're saying no card can go over 100c without falling apart? Because I sure got that from that post. True fact is the cards can reach over 100c without breaking. They have a cut off point for a reason. I am not stating my opinions but facts. My card stays above 65c IDLE, the fan speed is automatic, when it is full load with GTA and other stuff it reaches 76-78. Nothing to worry about. When it reaches 96c then you're in for worrying and I would be. Contact ATI and ask yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyReNiUsX Posted May 24, 2009 Author Share Posted May 24, 2009 Okay guys.. I think I found out whats wrong... MY RAM is bad.. I ran memtest and it keeps giving me errors. I tried switching them around to different slots and no go.. How can they be bad? I just got them like a month ago, I ran memtest then and it was fine, I havent touched them since I put them in.. this is fuking bullsh*t for real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowpope17 Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 Okay guys.. I think I found out whats wrong... MY RAM is bad.. I ran memtest and it keeps giving me errors. I tried switching them around to different slots and no go.. How can they be bad? I just got them like a month ago, I ran memtest then and it was fine, I havent touched them since I put them in.. this is fuking bullsh*t for real They can just be bad ram, your just unlucky I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyReNiUsX Posted May 24, 2009 Author Share Posted May 24, 2009 Okay guys.. I think I found out whats wrong... MY RAM is bad.. I ran memtest and it keeps giving me errors. I tried switching them around to different slots and no go.. How can they be bad? I just got them like a month ago, I ran memtest then and it was fine, I havent touched them since I put them in.. this is fuking bullsh*t for real They can just be bad ram, your just unlucky I suppose. yeah the story of my life. I appreciate the help though guys! thanks a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutOfTimer Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 (edited) I've just read the whole thread and I do get the impression that you people really are a bunch of AMD Fan Boys. I simply have to agree with Physicalfire. It's nothing bad to be a Fan Boy as long as you try to stick to the facts. You can advertise your company of choice that way. Show the strong points. It's good. Problems start when you can't back up your claims in a reasonable way. And looking at your little discussion here... you can't. Just take this for example: As for the OP, IV seems to run a lot better on vista than XP, it's a known thing, and runs even better on Windows 7. XP (even though I still use it) is EXTREMELY old and outdated. I agree that Vista isn't really a "step up" from XP. So the best thing to do is to download Windows 7 x64 and use it. It's pretty much Vista without the annoyances and is faster than XP. And when Windows 7 is released, buy it and use the full version. This is the most idiotic post I've read in days. "GTA IV runs a lot better on Vista than XP" ROFL I guess you out of all people know it best 'cause you don't even use Vista. But wait... "I agree that Vista isn't really a 'step up' from XP" What the heck??? I thought you meant it is... I must've been dreaming. "The best thing to do is to download Windows 7 x64 and use it" LOL You mean use a 64-bit system to run a 32-bit App in emulation and expect it to be better than XP, which is by the way a lot faster than the bloatware Vista is. Not to mention the fact that Windows 7 is Vista 2 and is even more of a bloatware than its predescessor. Of course I assume that you're actually able to run GTA IV on 7 'cause it's quite a difficult task, you know. But all these things don't concern you 'cause you don't have to try anything to talk about it... you don't own an AMD processor but still know everything, don't you? Your whole post is full of contradictory statements, which together form an outstanding display of monumental stupidity. Congratulations! Edited May 24, 2009 by OutOfTimer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Physicalfire Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 I've just read the whole thread and I do get the impression that you people really are a bunch of AMD Fan Boys. I simply have to agree with Physicalfire. It's nothing bad to be a Fan Boy as long as you try to stick to the facts. You can advertise your company of choice that way. Show the strong points. It's good. Problems start when you can't back up your claims in a reasonable way. And looking at your little discussion here... you can't. Just take this for example: As for the OP, IV seems to run a lot better on vista than XP, it's a known thing, and runs even better on Windows 7. XP (even though I still use it) is EXTREMELY old and outdated. I agree that Vista isn't really a "step up" from XP. So the best thing to do is to download Windows 7 x64 and use it. It's pretty much Vista without the annoyances and is faster than XP. And when Windows 7 is released, buy it and use the full version. This is the most idiotic post I've read in days. "GTA IV runs a lot better on Vista than XP" ROFL I guess you out of all people know it best 'cause you don't even use Vista. But wait... "I agree that Vista isn't really a 'step up' from XP" What the heck??? I thought you meant it is... I must've been dreaming. "The best thing to do is to download Windows 7 x64 and use it" LOL You mean use a 64-bit system to run a 32-bit App in emulation and expect it to be better than XP, which is by the way a lot faster than the bloatware Vista is. Not to mention the fact that Windows 7 is Vista 2 and is even more of a bloatware than its predescessor. Of course I assume that you're actually able to run GTA IV on 7 'cause it's quite a difficult task, you know. But all these things don't concern you 'cause you don't have to try anything to talk about it... you don't own an AMD processor but still know everything, don't you? Your whole post is full of contradictory statements, which together form an outstanding display of monumental stupidity. Congratulations! I see someone with sense and it makes me smile, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nillus Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 I've just read the whole thread and I do get the impression that you people really are a bunch of AMD Fan Boys. I simply have to agree with Physicalfire. It's nothing bad to be a Fan Boy as long as you try to stick to the facts. You can advertise your company of choice that way. Show the strong points. It's good. Problems start when you can't back up your claims in a reasonable way. And looking at your little discussion here... you can't. Just take this for example: As for the OP, IV seems to run a lot better on vista than XP, it's a known thing, and runs even better on Windows 7. XP (even though I still use it) is EXTREMELY old and outdated. I agree that Vista isn't really a "step up" from XP. So the best thing to do is to download Windows 7 x64 and use it. It's pretty much Vista without the annoyances and is faster than XP. And when Windows 7 is released, buy it and use the full version. This is the most idiotic post I've read in days. "GTA IV runs a lot better on Vista than XP" ROFL I guess you out of all people know it best 'cause you don't even use Vista. But wait... "I agree that Vista isn't really a 'step up' from XP" What the heck??? I thought you meant it is... I must've been dreaming. "The best thing to do is to download Windows 7 x64 and use it" LOL You mean use a 64-bit system to run a 32-bit App in emulation and expect it to be better than XP, which is by the way a lot faster than the bloatware Vista is. Not to mention the fact that Windows 7 is Vista 2 and is even more of a bloatware than its predescessor. Of course I assume that you're actually able to run GTA IV on 7 'cause it's quite a difficult task, you know. But all these things don't concern you 'cause you don't have to try anything to talk about it... you don't own an AMD processor but still know everything, don't you? Your whole post is full of contradictory statements, which together form an outstanding display of monumental stupidity. Congratulations! I see someone with sense and it makes me smile, thank you. I thought the same, +1 for this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Physicalfire Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 I've just read the whole thread and I do get the impression that you people really are a bunch of AMD Fan Boys. I simply have to agree with Physicalfire. It's nothing bad to be a Fan Boy as long as you try to stick to the facts. You can advertise your company of choice that way. Show the strong points. It's good. Problems start when you can't back up your claims in a reasonable way. And looking at your little discussion here... you can't. Just take this for example: As for the OP, IV seems to run a lot better on vista than XP, it's a known thing, and runs even better on Windows 7. XP (even though I still use it) is EXTREMELY old and outdated. I agree that Vista isn't really a "step up" from XP. So the best thing to do is to download Windows 7 x64 and use it. It's pretty much Vista without the annoyances and is faster than XP. And when Windows 7 is released, buy it and use the full version. This is the most idiotic post I've read in days. "GTA IV runs a lot better on Vista than XP" ROFL I guess you out of all people know it best 'cause you don't even use Vista. But wait... "I agree that Vista isn't really a 'step up' from XP" What the heck??? I thought you meant it is... I must've been dreaming. "The best thing to do is to download Windows 7 x64 and use it" LOL You mean use a 64-bit system to run a 32-bit App in emulation and expect it to be better than XP, which is by the way a lot faster than the bloatware Vista is. Not to mention the fact that Windows 7 is Vista 2 and is even more of a bloatware than its predescessor. Of course I assume that you're actually able to run GTA IV on 7 'cause it's quite a difficult task, you know. But all these things don't concern you 'cause you don't have to try anything to talk about it... you don't own an AMD processor but still know everything, don't you? Your whole post is full of contradictory statements, which together form an outstanding display of monumental stupidity. Congratulations! I see someone with sense and it makes me smile, thank you. I thought the same, +1 for this guy. we're the cool bunch lol. Also @ the original poster, you're lucky it was just a RAM problem. RAM is one of the cheapest components to replace so think on the bright side:). I recently got some new RAM and within a week I got random BLUE SCREENS about memory_management. Got it replaced via the company, so if your RAM is new you can send it back to them for a FREE replacement . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyReNiUsX Posted May 24, 2009 Author Share Posted May 24, 2009 lol yeah.. I'm just a very impatient person, I hate waiting... Thats one of my flaws that I have to work on.. How long did it take to get your new set of RAM back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Physicalfire Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 lol yeah.. I'm just a very impatient person, I hate waiting... Thats one of my flaws that I have to work on.. How long did it take to get your new set of RAM back? 1 week, and I had to send to the shop I purchased them, they checked them and sent them back to Corsair, they said yes they were 100% faulty and sent me new ones. All within 7 days this happened. You could always buy some new RAM and send the other RAM back and get your money back if you don't want to wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruXter Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 I've just read the whole thread and I do get the impression that you people really are a bunch of AMD Fan Boys. I simply have to agree with Physicalfire. It's nothing bad to be a Fan Boy as long as you try to stick to the facts. You can advertise your company of choice that way. Show the strong points. It's good. Problems start when you can't back up your claims in a reasonable way. And looking at your little discussion here... you can't. Just take this for example: As for the OP, IV seems to run a lot better on vista than XP, it's a known thing, and runs even better on Windows 7. XP (even though I still use it) is EXTREMELY old and outdated. I agree that Vista isn't really a "step up" from XP. So the best thing to do is to download Windows 7 x64 and use it. It's pretty much Vista without the annoyances and is faster than XP. And when Windows 7 is released, buy it and use the full version. This is the most idiotic post I've read in days. "GTA IV runs a lot better on Vista than XP" ROFL I guess you out of all people know it best 'cause you don't even use Vista. But wait... "I agree that Vista isn't really a 'step up' from XP" What the heck??? I thought you meant it is... I must've been dreaming. "The best thing to do is to download Windows 7 x64 and use it" LOL You mean use a 64-bit system to run a 32-bit App in emulation and expect it to be better than XP, which is by the way a lot faster than the bloatware Vista is. Not to mention the fact that Windows 7 is Vista 2 and is even more of a bloatware than its predescessor. Of course I assume that you're actually able to run GTA IV on 7 'cause it's quite a difficult task, you know. But all these things don't concern you 'cause you don't have to try anything to talk about it... you don't own an AMD processor but still know everything, don't you? Your whole post is full of contradictory statements, which together form an outstanding display of monumental stupidity. Congratulations! I see someone with sense and it makes me smile, thank you. I thought the same, +1 for this guy. we're the cool bunch lol. Also @ the original poster, you're lucky it was just a RAM problem. RAM is one of the cheapest components to replace so think on the bright side:). I recently got some new RAM and within a week I got random BLUE SCREENS about memory_management. Got it replaced via the company, so if your RAM is new you can send it back to them for a FREE replacement . 1. you two need to get a room. 2. cc Requested we stop the cpu wars in this thread and stay on topic. So LAy off the "fan boy" name calling. Of course if you "read the whole thing" like you said you would know this. Back to the op. As I stated earlier, now would be a great time to see if you can get out of the 1066 range with your memory. See if there is more you can use than just 800 and 1066. Do you have another computer you can slap that mem in and see if it's the slots/mobo that might be screwy? would be nice to find out before you shell out more money. If you bought the memory from frys, sometimes you can hustle them into giving it a go in one of their spare boards. I have pulled this off like twice now. there was a time the last time I tried they said they didn't do that stuff.. and if they did, they have nothing to use. I laughed and bought a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutOfTimer Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 (edited) Ode to TruXter I see you posting time and again, Poems and ballads TruXter my friend. Why are you always posting like this? Poetry Corner in hi-school you miss... Why are you spamming this humble thread? My previous comment you haven't read! There is this guy that loves AMD... He thinks he's Pro but he'll never be! Edited May 25, 2009 by OutOfTimer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Physicalfire Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 Ode to TruXter I see you posting time and again, Poems and ballads TruXter my friend, Why are you always posting like this? Poetry Corner in hi-school you miss... Why are you spamming this humble thread? My previous comment you haven't read! There is this guy that loves AMD... He thinks he's Pro but he'll never be! ROFL NICE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyReNiUsX Posted May 25, 2009 Author Share Posted May 25, 2009 (edited) I put in some old 4Gigs DDR 800 RAM 1Gig each using all four slots, and ran memtest and no errors... So I don't think its the motherboard.. But GTA still crashes on me.. Vista error saying "GTA has stopped responding" WTF is going on.. I could be playing and then all of the sudden my cell doesnt want to come out, or niko pretends like he is holding it but it doesnt show.. and it wont crash unless I press ESC.. or it just plain crashes on me... I think I am going to reformat my PC and start fresh and see whats good... Edited May 25, 2009 by CyReNiUsX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anus Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 I've just read the whole thread and I do get the impression that you people really are a bunch of AMD Fan Boys. I simply have to agree with Physicalfire. It's nothing bad to be a Fan Boy as long as you try to stick to the facts. You can advertise your company of choice that way. Show the strong points. It's good. Problems start when you can't back up your claims in a reasonable way. And looking at your little discussion here... you can't. Just take this for example: As for the OP, IV seems to run a lot better on vista than XP, it's a known thing, and runs even better on Windows 7. XP (even though I still use it) is EXTREMELY old and outdated. I agree that Vista isn't really a "step up" from XP. So the best thing to do is to download Windows 7 x64 and use it. It's pretty much Vista without the annoyances and is faster than XP. And when Windows 7 is released, buy it and use the full version. This is the most idiotic post I've read in days. "GTA IV runs a lot better on Vista than XP" ROFL I guess you out of all people know it best 'cause you don't even use Vista. But wait... "I agree that Vista isn't really a 'step up' from XP" What the heck??? I thought you meant it is... I must've been dreaming. "The best thing to do is to download Windows 7 x64 and use it" LOL You mean use a 64-bit system to run a 32-bit App in emulation and expect it to be better than XP, which is by the way a lot faster than the bloatware Vista is. Not to mention the fact that Windows 7 is Vista 2 and is even more of a bloatware than its predescessor. Of course I assume that you're actually able to run GTA IV on 7 'cause it's quite a difficult task, you know. But all these things don't concern you 'cause you don't have to try anything to talk about it... you don't own an AMD processor but still know everything, don't you? Your whole post is full of contradictory statements, which together form an outstanding display of monumental stupidity. Congratulations! IV does run a lot better on Vista than XP. I said that Vista isn't really a step up because in my experience all games except for IV run better on XP than Vista, so it isn't really worth switching over to Vista for just one game. As for recommending x64, it's not for IV. I always recommend 64 bit operating systems to people to have CPUs that are 64 bit. And since 7 is free right now, might as well get the x64 version. I don't know everything, I'm just trying to help out to the best of my ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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