The Social Club

[ObsydianRaven]

Expect a terrible, tasteless, sexually explicit comedy - especially you lot to cheer you all up you miserable bleeders.

 

They'll be schoolgirls, French fighter pilots going down in flames, sh*ts, sperm, shaving accidents mutilation of food, people eating mutilated food and f*ck knows what else I conjure up. It's coming soon.

Wow, I'm looking forward to that.

[Osric]

Now that I think about it, a Fallout BUY would be a bad idea. I think it'd work better as a chain game. I just want a story where everyone's involved. Who knows? Maybe I could turn LCL into a chain game? The reason why I want to turn Liberty City Legends into a chain game is so it can progress faster, since I can only write on weekends due to school.

 

I figured we should move on from BUY's to chain games. The Fallout Project is one, or maybe one based off of the Alien vs. Predator universe?(The games, not the movies).

 

I figured we have humorous GTA chain games, why not a more serious chain game?

 

Which should it be?

 

Fallout?

 

GTA: Liberty City Legends?

 

Alien vs. Predator?

 

I think a chain game would get me to write regularly again and not leave my stuff to stagnate.

Edited September 5, 2009 by Osric

[mark-2007]

Chain games have been done before too. If I'm not mistaken, there was one not too long ago about a heist or something? Don't think it got very far in. I really don't think it'd work that well. Something new and tailored strictly for WD would be best. An idea that is new and creative, and inspires creativity in the participants, is needed; if you want a writing game in WD, that is.

[Osric]

Well, how about this....an AVP game where there are factions like BUYG, but rather than purchasing weapons and stuff or earning money, we join a faction, three members for five factions(Weyland-Yutani, Marines, Predators, Aliens, and Spetsnaz) will write about their lives in the world of AVP(set between Alien 3 and Alien Ressurection) and their actions in a dire situation I have set up.

 

The main focus of the story is on colonization of the Earth-like planet LV-600, where the Weyland-Yutani Corporation is investing in both American and Russian colonization of the woodland planet. But Predators use the place as a training ground for their young, hunting bears and wolves. They see the humans, American, Russian, and Corporate, as better quarry and hunt them. However, things get interesting as an Alien-infested ship crashes on LV-600, unleashing a slew of Aliens, headed up by their vicious Queen. With signs of Alien infestation in the area, the American and Russian goverments work together in a joint military operation known as Code Saturn. Code Saturn is an eradication plan to exterminate the Alien hives and Yajuta outposts that may provide breeding grounds for the Xenomorphs. The company, not wanting to risk their investment, sends their own mercenaries to contain the outbreak before the military does. Idealogical differences between the Marines and the Spetsnaz causes Code Saturn to fail miserably, and when the soldiers and mercs aren't fighting the Aliens, they are being stalked by Predators, who are also hoping to take trophies from both humans and aliens. It is everybody against everybody, and the writers must work together among their factions to execute a plan of action to not only take down the Xenomorph and Yajuta presence, but also prove domninant in the colonization of LV-600.

[El Zilcho]

Ok, how about small vignettes telling the tale of an alternate dimension leaking into our world. It would be simpler and easier to write, so hopefully I can actually being this to life soon enough.

 

 

In 1892, a temple in Saudi Arabia dedicated to a mysterious alternate dimension full of all the negative things in the world (negative emotions stem form here, mythological beasts, the darkest sides of man kind are brought out from here, demonic beings and hellish soul stealing creatures) is discovered by an archaeological team, who recklessly dynamite their way into its catacombs. They stumble upon an ante-chamber that is guarded by 12 motionless, seemingly blood stained gargoyles. They yet again affront the forces at work here and break off three of the gargoyles, sending them up to the surface. As they leave the dark temple and emerge into the midday sun, the shifting sands start to take a mind of there own and whip up a wind that traps the team in the village.

 

With the dimensional rift widening, the previously friendly locals are enraged by demonic spirits and bury the archeological team alive at the gates of the temple, before slaughtering all others in the immediate area in an orgy of obscene rape, murder, cannibalism and horrific sacrifice. The influence of the three statues send the last of the possessed to re seal the temple, replacing all two of the gargoyles. But one remains buried in the sand. As the last villagers rip each other apart (due to the unbearable influence of the void on their minds), the last key to the dimensional rift remains on the surface, open to however may find it next. The stubborn team has unknowingly opened a gate to "hell" from where all conceivable evil may pour through.

 

One hundred years later, and the rift has already started to heal. But the gargoyle is once again disturbed, this time by a group of cult leaders who wish to open all the possible gates across the world with the curious artifact. They take it with them, deliberately leaving the ancestors of the 1892 massacre to deal with the now waking demons. Believing the other dimension to be a controllable army, they set out to take over the world. But when they open a larger tunnel to the Otherworld in Iceland, they discover that the void is far from controllable. But its too late; the door is wide open and no known means can close it again...

 

A rough, simple draft I wrote up in the last half hour. I intend it to be unlinked storys about the impact of the gate opening, and show you just how dangerous this dimension is. There will be no distinction between simple bystanders and those who worship the evil. I want this to be visceral, chilling and violent.

[The Unvirginiser]

Will you write your Third Reich Story first?

[El Zilcho]

Will you write your Third Reich Story first?

Probably not. That's the thing, I'm want to take my time on that and develop a really strong story. I guess its a weak point but I would prefer to do this first, sorry mate if you were looking forward to it. But I will try my upmost to write it, I want to do it so bad, because I know that if done right it has real potential to be my best piece.

[Osric]

I talked with Mark-2007, and I was thinking of an absurdist story and not a fanfic. Something raunchy and tasteless like The Unvirginizer's story, and something dark and weird like Lemony Snicket.

Edited September 6, 2009 by Osric

[Don Garcia]

Question for you regulars. What's a good number of chapters for a story? And also, what's a good length?

 

I'm trying to gauge how to segment my writing. I'm notorious for writing way too much. And I figure people would tune out if each chapter was a wall of text. But if I make my chapters short, I'll have a hell of a lot of 'em. I'm writing a story at the moment, hoping it turns into my 1st, actual, finished story in WD. The set-up is turning out to be pretty lengthy. I wanted it to be just the first chapter, but it looks like it might take two to properly set up the story.

[Jean Capel]

Well, it depends on what type of story you intend on writing and the level of intricacy. I mean, if you're writing House Of Leaves it's gonna' be pretty damn long. Where-as if you're writing say...one piece from Nightmares and Dreamscapes, it'll be relatively short.

 

I couldn't really advise you on what a good length/number of chapters is for here, because as stated above, my first chapter was 12-13 pages. Although, I'd say here, the maximum length you'd want would be a short story, so that'd be 10,000 words or less.

 

As for your wall o' text concern, I wouldn't worry, just ensure to use proper formatting and maybe spice it up a bit every so often ala House Of Leaves if you feel like it.

 

Also, feel like sharing the premise of this story?

[Don Garcia]

Thanks for the quick reply. The plot is something I'd prefer to keep hush. It's nothing revolutionary, I just don't want people to know what goes down beforehand, even though they might guess it when they read it.

 

It's a Western. The 1880's. Nevada.

[mark-2007]

Ooh wee. Haven't seen a Western in a while around WD. THink the last I came across was by Ciabatta, perhaps. Looking forward to it.

 

I've done a couple drafts of a first chapter for the serial killer idea on the previous page. It's currently a bit over a page, bordering on a page and a half on MS Word, Verdana, 12.

 

I'd like to begin writing my library notes idea I mentioned a few pages back as it's more of an original idea in my mind, at least. Might do that.

[Osric]

After contemplating my numerous ideas, I will go with the one that is most developed. It's the one based on Fallout and it won't be a BUY or Chain Game, at least not until the backlash against BUY's dies down. I call it The Fallout Project.

[Jean Capel]

Forgive me if I'm not too enthused about a fan-fic- FO3* based story. If you're going to do dystopian fiction, I'd think original is the only way to go ya?

 

 

*I say the third because most people in my own age group** think that FO3 is the definition of Fallout, when really it's just an entertaining game, nothing more.

 

**I'm assuming you're from 15 to 20 Osric, if not, forgive my mistake.

 

 

 

As for your western Don, I can't make many judgments now but at least it will break the monotony of the subject matter round' these parts. Are you going for the Spaghetti Western style, or something else?

 

 

 

 

Edited September 8, 2009 by Jean Capel

[Osric]

Jean, I know that. And yes, I am 16, but the problem is that my idea is already well-developed. What I really want to do is a BUY, either Build Up Your Faction(Fallout 3) or Build Up Your Crew(Alien/Predator Series).but if I do, there will be a huge backlash and I'll get flamed to no end, especially since the failure of Build Up Your Family. The thing with BUYC is that it mostly focuses on the Aliens and the humans, pre-Alien Ressurection. It's set fifty years after Alien 3(The last good Alien film), and focuses on the colonization of LV-900. The factions are the Weyland-Yutani Corporation, the Colonial Marines, Spetsnaz, Rebel Forces(The raiders from Alien Ressurection), and Special Space Service(The British equivalent of the Colonial Marines). The Yajuta(Predators) and their weapons would be added later.

[mark-2007]

Jean, I know that. And yes, I am 16, but the problem is that my idea is already well-developed. What I really want to do is a BUY, either Build Up Your Faction(Fallout 3) or Build Up Your Crew(Alien/Predator Series).but if I do, there will be a huge backlash and I'll get flamed to no end, especially since the failure of Build Up Your Family. The thing with BUYC is that it mostly focuses on the Aliens and the humans, pre-Alien Ressurection. It's set fifty years after Alien 3(The last good Alien film), and focuses on the colonization of LV-900. The factions are the Weyland-Yutani Corporation, the Colonial Marines, Spetsnaz, Rebel Forces(The raiders from Alien Ressurection), and Special Space Service(The British equivalent of the Colonial Marines). The Yajuta(Predators) and their weapons would be added later.

I know you say you'd like to do it but really, and not wanting to sound too harsh, what's the point?

 

BUYA has pretty much failed, and BUYS and BUYF have equally failed. I think it's obvious form this that the BUY_ format works better away from WD. If WD is to have a game, it needs something more serious and non-fanfic so that writers who write original pieces can participate.

[El Zilcho]

I've got to agree with mark. You always spew out these endless ideas and then when you make them they fall apart and you substitute (like seth for example) with a fresh project or idea. Just be original, why use Fallout when you can craft your own factions and world in a new post apocalyptic world. Its a new Earth! Go crazy! Post apocalyptic fiction is a genre where you can go nuts; the world has ended, so its a clean slate for the plot and characters. But instead, you choose to use the same, unoriginal format (whether its Build Up Your Whatever to using Fallout as opposed to your own work).

[Rhoda]

Everything seems to be going wrong. I'm canceling A Claude Moment. Surprise, surprise, I know. I'm not in my happy place. I have ideas floating around but I think I'm too much of a pessimist now to share them here and get dead excited about it, and then get annoyed when they fall apart at the seams in front of me.

 

You've all got good ideas though chaps, very good ideas indeed. If you make them happen and buckle down you'll produce some stellar work. I know that it's ironic coming from my mouth but it's my job to encourage you. Go team.

[Jean Capel]

Yay, go team. Well, I'm going to double-back on my promise here. I wrote something I enjoyed so much last night, that I will share an excerpt of TDM with you all. I still won't be posting it in full, as I like working in private, but this I may post another excerpt at some point in time.

 

 

 

Here you go...a fresh piece taken out of context!

 

 

    Karma, or some simplified variant of it, was another facet of my belief system. It wasn’t just a belief but an experience, something I felt that was as real as the corporeal world around me. I didn’t really understand it, or even notice it much until after the war, I have Michael and Lea to thank for my present comprehension of the concept. It was an almost mystical experience, when I committed an action, black, white, or gray; I felt the consequences of it. It was like I saw the outcome, without seeing the context or the action, just a basic, good or bad feeling. Sometimes, I even think this was a delayed action. I said I believed in Karma and I do. That day I believe that I felt the consequences of the way I’d lived, just before I felt the burning razor shards of metal and the searing heat, just before I saw some of my friends dying, a life’s worth of malicious deeds was finally catching up with me.

[Osric]

Actually, BUYS is still going and BUYA was a success before dying. I will admit BUYF failed. Well, you said that BUY games work better outside the WD, where should I put it then?

[The Unvirginiser]

Actually, BUYS is still going and BUYA was a success before dying. I will admit BUYF failed. Well, you said that BUY games work better outside the WD, where should I put it then?

Do you not think that these ideas would do better on a different website entirely? Maybe a private gang website, a fan fiction website or just another forum?

[Osric]

I don't know. I know I could do original work, but I like writing fanfics more. Sorry about that, really.

[Vercetti21]

You honestly can't expect to keep pumping out the same game and expect different results. If you just like to write, then write. Create your own piece, whether it be a fanfic or original story. If you really want to host a community project, come up with something fresh and new that people will want to get into. If you're really set on another BUY_, take it somewhere else. I'd say roughly that those are your options at the moment.

[Rhoda]

An external website for the games seems like a good idea, but then the factor of promotion, registration and advertising comes into play. It could work though, if done right.

 

The thing with the BUY_ games as well is there's only so much you can do. Say like you're taking part in BUYG: IV and you're writing on behalf of the Gravellis. A group from the family have been sent to pick something up, kill whoever has it and then deliver it whilst being chased. Sounds like your average, enjoyable GTAIV mission, but then you take that same structure and apply it to BUYA or BUYF; group of warriors/mercenaries/policemen/street gangs/stuntmen/doctors (delete as applicable) go to get something, and then the arc goes on.

 

Don't get me wrong, I know it's not all like that, but the only other option is to plan story arcs that can last up to tens of chapters. I've seen it happen in BUYG: IV so many times; an elaborate (and good, don't get me wrong, it does sound good) is planned and then by the time the writer gets into the meat of it, they drop out because they're bored or they want to write for new characters.

[Oxidizer]

I think a lot of the BUY_ ideas would be a lot stronger as original stories and be a lot better for it. Not only because all of these different concepts for the BUY_ series is making the whole genre stale now, but also because you have full control and direction of the story.

 

I don't know about BUYG, but having read a good few pieces for BUYA, none of the instalments tell a cohesive story related to the actual project's plot/storyline. And I don't get that, as, what's the point of it? It just seems like the participants can write about whatever they want so long as it involves a faction belonging to the 'game'. Or is that the point?

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm not shooting anyone down at all, and I genuinely like and think the concepts are good ideas, but it's beginning to tarnish things now and that would be a shame if that happened.

[Rhoda]

I think a lot of the BUY_ ideas would be a lot stronger as original stories and be a lot better for it. Not only because all of these different concepts for the BUY_ series is making the whole genre stale now, but also because you have full control and direction of the story.

This is true, and it's something we've seen already here in WD, though I'm sad to say I've missed a lot of it through inactivity and my old diseases putting-it-off-until-later-itis. There's much less restriction too, being able to use what you want rather than what is given to you. I know the build up can be fun and working towards something feels so much more satisfying but there's a lot of creative freedom to be had.

[TheJonesy]

How about a poetry topic? Maybe have a category each week; one week can be free verse, another is sonnets, etc. It'll be more light weight and free-for-all-ish so that you can join in, but if you have a piece that you want more individualized - whether it is special to you and/or doesn't fit in the current category or you simply want other's analysis and opinions - and you create your own topic, you may do so.

[Lochie_old]

Two things;

 

 

I found this pretty inspiring, I hope this helps anyone with 'writers block'. Secondly, heres an old free-write I did that I'm actually pretty keen on expanding on sometime soon;

 

 

I’m going to live forever, no matter what the doctor says. He frowns when I tell him this and turns to my family; raising his hands in the air in some sort gesture of defeat.

 

“He’s beyond saving now.”

 

But I’m not, yet no one knows this besides me. I’ll never die, sure, the cancer will soon take over my brain. Sure, the chemotherapy will only lengthen my life by a few more painful days, but isn’t life worth fighting for?

 

To my highschool sweetheart, remember me. To the young attendant at the gas station, remember me. To my parents, family, friends and enemies, remember me.

 

The sun slowly fades behind the hill and the hospital lights flicker on, I look into my fathers eyes and I see all those years of closeness we’ve spent together. Throwing around a football, riding our bikes along the old mountain trail, learning how to drive a car. Dark rings form around his eyes, hes tired. I’m tired.

 

I look around the room and I can see the physical toll that my illness has on others. And I realize, maybe living forever isn’t a good idea after all.

 

Sure, I want a scar. And yeah, maybe I want to ride my motorcycle down the wrong side of a road. I want to drink with my friends like I use too, down at the park out of the view of our parents while we talked about the finer things in life. I want to smoke weed with my best friend Mike and listen to Explosions in the Sky until we fall asleep. I want to feel the smooth skin of my first girlfriend Jess.

 

But we can’t change the past, the only way we move is forward, into the future.

 

And yes, I want to be there when they find the cure for cancer, but I won’t be. I can’t live forever, confined to a hospital room being drugged up on chemicals.

 

But I can live forever in your hearts.

[VercettiTheNiter]

Hi I'm not neccesarily new to the forums but I am a little rusty on what to post onto WD. I haven't posted since July I think with Major Mistake. Anyway what I'm getting to is does anyone have a way of reaching a jumping off point for writing. I've had this urge to write an epic but I'm not sure what to right about.

 

Can anyone help me?

 

PM if you can

 

Thanks for your time!

[mark-2007]

Two things;

 

 

I found this pretty inspiring, I hope this helps anyone with 'writers block'. Secondly, heres an old free-write I did that I'm actually pretty keen on expanding on sometime soon;

 

 

I’m going to live forever, no matter what the doctor says. He frowns when I tell him this and turns to my family; raising his hands in the air in some sort gesture of defeat.

 

“He’s beyond saving now.”

 

But I’m not, yet no one knows this besides me. I’ll never die, sure, the cancer will soon take over my brain. Sure, the chemotherapy will only lengthen my life by a few more painful days, but isn’t life worth fighting for?

 

To my highschool sweetheart, remember me. To the young attendant at the gas station, remember me. To my parents, family, friends and enemies, remember me.

 

The sun slowly fades behind the hill and the hospital lights flicker on, I look into my fathers eyes and I see all those years of closeness we’ve spent together. Throwing around a football, riding our bikes along the old mountain trail, learning how to drive a car. Dark rings form around his eyes, hes tired. I’m tired.

 

I look around the room and I can see the physical toll that my illness has on others. And I realize, maybe living forever isn’t a good idea after all.

 

Sure, I want a scar. And yeah, maybe I want to ride my motorcycle down the wrong side of a road. I want to drink with my friends like I use too, down at the park out of the view of our parents while we talked about the finer things in life. I want to smoke weed with my best friend Mike and listen to Explosions in the Sky until we fall asleep. I want to feel the smooth skin of my first girlfriend Jess.

 

But we can’t change the past, the only way we move is forward, into the future.

 

And yes, I want to be there when they find the cure for cancer, but I won’t be. I can’t live forever, confined to a hospital room being drugged up on chemicals.

 

But I can live forever in your hearts.

Nice pic. And I think it'd be cool if the guy was like "But we can't change the past, and I can't have a future." Then he theorises about what happens to him after he dies. Maybe he can have a future in that.