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Katalix

Animal Cruelty/Abuse

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Katalix

What do you think about animal cruelty/abuse?

 

Personally, I'd kill all those f*ckers in a heartbeat. My dog was abused by his previous owner, he's scared of everyone. You can't walk near him or he'll run away and hide.

 

 

After watching a video about animal cruelty inside Chinese fur farms, I basically threw up. It gets me angry how people treat animals like this.

 

http://www.peta.org/feat/chineseFurFarms/index.asp

 

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McLovin2404

Yeh, I hate animal abuse.

 

This was on the news not too long ago...gutless pricks...

 

 

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nlitement

Animal abuse is retarded, but not as retarded as wanting to "KILL THOSE MOTHERf*ckERS AND SKIN THEM ALIVE" (that applies to any abusers, child, animal or drug).

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Wonderbro

I get so angry when I hear that some animal is tortured or abused. I'd kill every f*cker who does that!

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Playstation_Loyalist

They must not live. Kill them. Bitches. Cruel heartless maniacs.

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Dingdongs

I think everyone can agree that those who abuse animals to feel powerful or big are sick disgusting pieces of filth.

 

However, there is the debate over eating animals to go over.

 

I've always felt that, us as humans, have the right over animals to eat them. It's just basic nature to me. I know there's the argument against it, but most of that argument is just equating humans with animals.

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I've always felt that, us as humans, have the right over animals to eat them. It's just basic nature to me. I know there's the argument against it, but most of that argument is just equating humans with animals.

offcourse it´s right. that´s just how the food chain works.

and we´re on top of it.

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Struff Bunstridge
However, there is the debate over eating animals to go over.

Says who? The dude started a thread to discuss cruelty towards animals, not eating them. By all means have a chat about ethical methods of farming or something along those lines, but don't just hijack his topic.

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Typhus

Why do people abuse animals?

It boils down to two things really. Those who do it for fun and those who do it to satisfy a need. It's the same with any deviant behaviour, there is a lust there, a dark impulse within oneself that keeps nagging away, just keeps saying: "Do it! Do it! Do it!"

I can sympathise. But there's no point in rationalising it, some people are just born wrong. It's not outside influences or a bad life, it's just nature. Some people are cruel because they are designed to be so.

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Katalix

Satisfy a need? I'd say go to therapy.

 

As I mentioned above, one of my dogs was abused. My aunt rescued him a from a shelter and gave him to me. I'm with him everyday and he's still scared of me. And with that racoon skinning video, just wait for them to die first instead of skinning them alive. That's cruel.

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Gundog

I adore animals, even if some are aggressive and rash, they still are animals, they don't know better, it's their nature. I have a dog to which I am very emotionally connected. He is my world, and I wouldn't know what I'd do if he, God forbid, dies. Most likely, I'd be in agony for months.

 

I'd never hurt an animal myself, Hell, I started to hate fishing, even though it's relaxing and fun, more or less, because my hook got trough an eye of a bass. I thought it was really unfair to do such a thing, so I killed it instantly, and, I hope, painlessly. I got it out of it's misery. I know it was a bad thing to do, but at least I got him rid of the pain.

 

Basically, in my book, animal abusers should be tortured the same way they tortured the furry critter. I'd skin them alive and pour salt all over their wretched scum flesh.

 

Also, seal clubbing is really cruel, the clubbers should be clubbed.

 

Offtopic: I hate furries and I'm not a vegetarian, BTW.

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Wanted Assailant

Indifferent. Not much of an impact in my life to worry. "Born wrong"? That's a wide step to judgement.

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Typhus
Indifferent. Not much of an impact in my life to worry. "Born wrong"? That's a wide step to judgement.

Not judgement. Personal experience.

Some people are not born with a normal outlook on life.

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Doink

Yeah, animal cruelty is terrible. But I don't feel any better saying "Oh man I should go kill those f*ckers who do this sh*t to animals"

 

I might agree with giving those torturers a beating, but jeez, I'm not going to kill them.

 

I'd like to give my neighbor a few swift kicks in the gut. There have been a couple times I've woken up to hearing their beautiful german shepard yelping because their teenage sh*thead was out there kicking it in the stomach over and over.

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D- Ice

Seems pretty nasty, but much worse is happening to people - who are much more valuable to me - all around the world.

 

Hell, I'm all for animal cruelty - let those sick bastards get their kicks from doing those jobs - if it means they aren't working as professional torturers on people.

 

@Chinese Fur Farms: I've heard about them skinning the animals alive, but really can't stand to watch it myself. Surely it'll be so much more efficient if they kill the damn f*ckers first, so they wont kick in pain or move or whatever they'd do. One bullet to the head - or somesort of industrial animal head-hole-punch lol.gif would easily do the trick.

 

I've got feeling the footage is a one-off or somesort of sick Jap snuff (I wouldn't be surprised at all) being used especially by the animal rights campaigners to shock people into funding them.

Edited by D- Ice

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Omnia sunt Communia

Animal abuse is, in my opinion, just as bad (if not worse) as abusing a person. After all we're all animals; whether we like to admit it or not. Animals don't have the ability to defend themselves in most cases and that makes it much worse in my eyes. I think the penalty for abusing a animal should carry similar sentences to a similar offence carried out on a human.

 

It's only fair.

 

I'm a big defender of animal rights. I'm a vegetarian, I only use products I know haven't been tested on animals and I refuse to put my animals through any sort of procedure that isn't beneficial to them or my other animals (dehorning, tail docking, etc.). I have a large, large number of animals and I just don't see how people can justify hurting them. I love my animals; they are a large part of my life. Hurting them would be as bad as hurting a member of my family in my eyes.

 

As for all the people stating they want to "kill those f*ckers" (or whatever it was they said): That's no better than killing animals. The whole point of animal rights is that we and animals are equal. You must apply the same morals to both humans and animals. If you are against killing animals then you must also be against killing humans. You can't pick and choose.

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General Goose

I'm in favour of animal welfare, but not animal rights.

 

I don't think humanity is superior to other animals, I just think that if we have to "exploit" another species TO AN EXTENT for our health and, to a lesser extent, prosperity, we can, as long as we don't go over board. Other species of animals do it, and while we as a species have more advanced morals and adaptability, I think that humanity as a whole does have the "Every species for itself" view that other animals have.

 

In terms of animal testing, I think it should only be done for medicinal items, as exploiting animals for cosmetics and such is wrong. In terms of food, well, meat is among my favourite foods and has been since I was a child, so I'm a bit biased in that sense. Making an animal suffer unnecessarily or for entertainment, is in my view, despicable, and it shows how some people have really matured from stepping on ants and killing them. However, in my opinion, a human matters to me more then an animal, for two reasons: one, because I feel humans are more intellectually advanced and emotionally advanced then animals, and two because of the fact we have the "Every species for itself" ideal that every species seems to have. However, I do know a few animals (as in pets), and I would feel sad if they died.

 

The fact that most humans are able to feel compassion for animals shows how advanced we are, and I think we should stop exploiting animals if it does not feed or help cure a human.

 

And the "Kill testers" idea is even worse. It shows how little one cares for its species, and in my opinion, a lack of care for one's own species is a lot worse then a lack of care for another species.

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Breaking Bohan

I think its very wrong.

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CHOOKOKABRA

The depths of human depravity I personally have seen and experianced has left me with no hope for it whatsoever. I will save a animal's life before I save a human life.

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ElBoricua94

Maybe people shouldnt own pets in the first place. or maybe it still woundnt matter. sarcasm.gif o well...

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bobgtafan
Animal abuse is, in my opinion, just as bad (if not worse) as abusing a person. After all we're all animals; whether we like to admit it or not. Animals don't have the ability to defend themselves in most cases and that makes it much worse in my eyes. I think the penalty for abusing a animal should carry similar sentences to a similar offence carried out on a human.

 

It's only fair.

 

I'm a big defender of animal rights. I'm a vegetarian, I only use products I know haven't been tested on animals and I refuse to put my animals through any sort of procedure that isn't beneficial to them or my other animals (dehorning, tail docking, etc.). I have a large, large number of animals and I just don't see how people can justify hurting them. I love my animals; they are a large part of my life. Hurting them would be as bad as hurting a member of my family in my eyes.

 

As for all the people stating they want to "kill those f*ckers" (or whatever it was they said): That's no better than killing animals. The whole point of animal rights is that we and animals are equal. You must apply the same morals to both humans and animals. If you are against killing animals then you must also be against killing humans. You can't pick and choose.

No we are not "equal". Animals aren't as intelligent and they provide food for humans (Food Chain). You can't tell a straving African that he shouldn't kill that dumb squirrel because it's an animal too. But I do agree that chrages should be the same as killing a human IF you didn't eat the animal and you just did it for sh*ts and giggles. Besides once genetically modified food becomes more common who will want to eat real animals anymore?

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Weirdo.

Animal abuse/cruelty is simply wrong.*

 

*Exceptions would be if I had some mice or rats in my house, only then will I shed no remorse. I trap them, then I feed them to my cat. But then again, that's what most people would do.

Edited by Weirdo.

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d0mm2k8

Cruelly beating or torturing an animal for no reason is just sadistic

but killing an animal for food, protection or because they're a pest (rats, spiders ect.) is fine.

 

I don't care if the chicken in my Zinger Meal suffered before death to be honest -

but I wouldn't say improving the condition of the area they are kept in and treating them better before they die is a bad thing.

 

And if a wild animal has made the choice to enter my house uninvited, then that's it's own fault.

 

Also, killing in self defence is self explanatory.

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ZombieFrogger

Id Kill the people who did those things to the animals.What kind of mind set do people have to do that to a living being, there are some cold hearted people out there that need to be steralised and possibly Shot.I dont mind eating Meat and etc that comes from animals but when there treated like crap and Tortured Thats when i turn all high and mighty and wish the people who did that to animals fall in a pit of lava.

 

 

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gtafan113
I adore animals, even if some are aggressive and rash, they still are animals, they don't know better, it's their nature. I have a dog to which I am very emotionally connected. He is my world, and I wouldn't know what I'd do if he, God forbid, dies. Most likely, I'd be in agony for months.

 

I'd never hurt an animal myself, Hell, I started to hate fishing, even though it's relaxing and fun, more or less, because my hook got trough an eye of a bass. I thought it was really unfair to do such a thing, so I killed it instantly, and, I hope, painlessly. I got it out of it's misery. I know it was a bad thing to do, but at least I got him rid of the pain.

 

Basically, in my book, animal abusers should be tortured the same way they tortured the furry critter. I'd skin them alive and pour salt all over their wretched scum flesh.

 

Also, seal clubbing is really cruel, the clubbers should be clubbed.

 

Offtopic: I hate furries and I'm not a vegetarian, BTW.

I used to go fishing and stopped after i got a fish in the eye a couple times because I felt so bad.

 

I wasn't able to kill it thought...I just hoped it could maybe get better or something.

 

I HATE people who abuse animals. It's not right and I wish I could kill people who hurt animals.

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Moonshield

Really, I'm okay with animal abuse. They're lesser creatures in God's eyes and we as Men should bend them to our will. If they do not submit, they should be punished. Same with women and children too. And minorities.

 

Seriously, why is this even a topic in D&D? It's not like anybody in their right mind is going to be advocating this sort of sh*t. I think both Jacky Fiend and General Goose hit the nail on the head regarding our place with the rest of the animal kingdom, tbh.

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Ph3L1z14n0

I hope most of the people that have posted here are vegetarians !

 

Or do you think that killing a cow to eat it later is not abuse biggrin.gif ?

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