Pierre grove Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 Well i see that the rumours are spreading to other forums,about 3 or 4 could be more though. Any way i hope it comes to ps3 not as a dlc just a single disc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iPetrovic Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 To be fair, Microsoft should have ALL future GTAs Microsoft exclusive. Don't forget GTA started on a Microsoft platform, the PC, with even DLC, London 1961, back then. Later, GTA III, VC, SA, LCS and VCS all became Sony exclusives. III-SA were later released for Microsoft platforms, but LCS and VCS remained Sony exclusive. So, Sony fanboys, understand that it is only fair the DLCs stay exclusive to Microsoft and Microsoft only. It STARTED on the PC. The first ever DLC for the original GTA was exclusive to Microsoft's platform. What made you think otherwise? Just because GTA III-VCS was Sony exclusive? Wake up! Rockstar is a business, they do whatever they want as long as it earns money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pubicmonkey Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 (edited) I bought GTA London for the PS1. And it wasn't DLC, it was on a disc. Edit: Nevermind, didn't know about 1961. Edited May 25, 2009 by Pubicmonkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrZnyper Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 It would be great news if this was true, since Lost and Damned would be the first thing I buy from the PlayStation Store and probably the only thing I'll buy from the PlayStation Store. But it does seem weird how Microsoft would pay 50 million bucks for an exclusive that lasts 6 months. But if this is true, then it is great news, and I can't wait to play it on my PS3. I completely agree with every single thing you just said. It would be the first and only thing i would buy from the psn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalosoulj4h20 Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 PS3 users, you're not missing anything. Here's to a new GTA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pubicmonkey Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 PS3 users, you're not missing anything. Here's to a new GTA! Perhaps. I haven't actually played GTA IV in a couple of months so TLAD would be something nice to make me go back to it. But I sure would like a new GTA with a more interesting city. Liberty City looks great but as I'm mostly into driving around and exploring it's just not very interesting to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isuck100% Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 PS3 users, you're not missing anything. Here's to a new GTA! Yes, you are. But GTA V is welcome. I wonder if they have started work on it or are they focusing on GTA IV: Episode 2? Maybe they have separate teams working on both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalosoulj4h20 Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 PS3 users, you're not missing anything. Here's to a new GTA! Yes, you are. But GTA V is welcome. I wonder if they have started work on it or are they focusing on GTA IV: Episode 2? Maybe they have separate teams working on both. I think not. I played it and I rather have a whole new game than some side missions. My point is, this game is good, however it's nuthin' to argue about. Again, you guys aren't really missing out on much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre grove Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 PS3 users, you're not missing anything. Here's to a new GTA! Yes, you are. But GTA V is welcome. I wonder if they have started work on it or are they focusing on GTA IV: Episode 2? Maybe they have separate teams working on both. I think not. I played it and I rather have a whole new game than some side missions. My point is, this game is good, however it's nuthin' to argue about. Again, you guys aren't really missing out on much. Yeah but some of the gta 4 fans wants to know a little about johnny side of the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FullMetal Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 I think not. I played it and I rather have a whole new game than some side missions. My point is, this game is good, however it's nuthin' to argue about. Again, you guys aren't really missing out on much. You know and you can tell us we aren't missing much because you have played it already, right? Finished the storyline on the platform of your choice? Well, others are eagerly waiting for more 'content' (as I said before, there are people who are interested in seeing a new storyline, more weapons, new multiplayer modes...). But the most important part is having a new storyline which has always been really interesting and brilliant to play. Therefor, if others could play TLAD on their platform(s) of choice, they could also say 'we didn't miss out on anything'... but they actually had the chance to play it. Instead of now we aren't going to be playing it anytime soon. (well, we also could all go and buy a XBOX360, pay for a Live account, buy GTAIV for the Xbox AND buy some gamerpoints for The Lost and Damend... but that's just lame). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunrise Driver Posted May 26, 2009 Author Share Posted May 26, 2009 (edited) Nvm. Edited October 22, 2010 by Street Mix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalosoulj4h20 Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 I think not. I played it and I rather have a whole new game than some side missions. My point is, this game is good, however it's nuthin' to argue about. Again, you guys aren't really missing out on much. You know and you can tell us we aren't missing much because you have played it already, right? Finished the storyline on the platform of your choice? Well, others are eagerly waiting for more 'content' (as I said before, there are people who are interested in seeing a new storyline, more weapons, new multiplayer modes...). But the most important part is having a new storyline which has always been really interesting and brilliant to play. Therefor, if others could play TLAD on their platform(s) of choice, they could also say 'we didn't miss out on anything'... but they actually had the chance to play it. Instead of now we aren't going to be playing it anytime soon. (well, we also could all go and buy a XBOX360, pay for a Live account, buy GTAIV for the Xbox AND buy some gamerpoints for The Lost and Damend... but that's just lame). Meh, keep crying about it then, but you guys ain't getting it. Either buy an Xbox 360 or wait for a new game is what I'm saying. I haven't been on this specific forum since March and it's pathetic to see Guruscrew still sucking MS's balls, but it's even more pathetic to see PS3 only users crying about not getting DLC for 10 pages ( actually 100 pages if you count every time someone makes a sh*tty topic about it ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuruAskew Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 With Rockstar announcing Fall content ("The Ballad of Gay Tony" and the retail DLC comp) and officially announcing delays of later content like "Red Dead Redemption" we can officially close the book on this rumor. If Rockstar was releasing this content for PS3 in August it would have been announced long before the stuff that was announced today. Lock the thread please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floof Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 And why would MS pay 25 million bucks per episode for only 6 months? That's ridiculous! Exactly what I am thinking, sounds like a load of bullsh*t. But if its true I'll buy the OP TLAD on PS3.... wont happen though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobe Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 (edited) So, Sony fanboys, understand that it is only fair the DLCs stay exclusive to Microsoft and Microsoft only. It STARTED on the PC. The first ever DLC for the original GTA was exclusive to Microsoft's platform. What made you think otherwise? Just because GTA III-VCS was Sony exclusive? Wake up! Rockstar is a business, they do whatever they want as long as it earns money. What total drivel! Why is it only 'fair' for the DLC's to remain exclusive to M$? Fair on whom? Pathetic 360 fanboys presumably. By and large most gamers aren't fanboys of either console. By and large most gamers actually have a brain and enough common sense to see what fanboy-ism is for what it is - pathetic. Hence 'fairness' doesn't enter into it. Belive it or not we're all fans of the same game here, only the PS3 owners are missing out on half the fun, I'm a 360 owner and I don't think thats very fair. At the end of the day there's only one person who misses out in all this console war crap and DLC exclusivity bullsh*t - the gamer who can't afford both consoles - ie most of us! And I'll just add to that if there is one games company out there who will unquestionably put making great games ahead of making a fast buck its R*. They have and always will put making great games ahead of making money. They are not EA to put it mildy. So I don't think they will do whatever they want as long as it earns them money. I think they'll do whaever they want as long as they produce a great game that doesn't compromise on anything. I don't really think Manhunt was done to rake in the cash do you? Edited May 27, 2009 by mobe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 (edited) Understand THIS Xbox360 fanboys, I am getting an Xbox, but not because of a damn word you said, or you're relentless slagging of Sony or Playstation. Keep in mind, these ventures were a bit like shots in the dark, from both sides. They had no way of really knowing how well their respective product would do. It's an amazing tale of success, from both angles! Rockstar had to do something I feel was not a reflection on the fans or gamers, but more to do with internal needs, the development at the time, the willingness of MS to step up and support their effort. Sony can only be made to feel the shame for that end of it. Nothing more. Rockstar supported Sony Playstation. Recall the Sam Houser video interview? Must I post it one more time here?? Date of it means little, the fact is it speaks volumes along with what Dan Houser said about looking at the various systems and what they can do on them. There's no bias in those statements. Edited May 27, 2009 by Slamman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FullMetal Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Slamman post the link once again since I have missed out on that interview... sounds interesting to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 (edited) I had this video saved to my HDD, in fact. I try and read what Sam maybe implying as it can stand in the future of RN.... Many debate the Xbox-MS factor due to it coming to the fore after this E3 vid in 05. However, both systems are key to the gaming market, They won't ignore PS at all. I mentioned that Dan Houser talked about system development as well, that was an online interview found linked to this site, it can be found in the Chinatown Wars section, talking about why the DS was chosen. It bears importance as to why Xbox isn't any type of sole contender for games Edited May 27, 2009 by Slamman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyessorc Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 To be fair, Microsoft should have ALL future GTAs Microsoft exclusive. Don't forget GTA started on a Microsoft platform, the PC, with even DLC, London 1961, back then. Later, GTA III, VC, SA, LCS and VCS all became Sony exclusives. III-SA were later released for Microsoft platforms, but LCS and VCS remained Sony exclusive. So, Sony fanboys, understand that it is only fair the DLCs stay exclusive to Microsoft and Microsoft only. It STARTED on the PC. The first ever DLC for the original GTA was exclusive to Microsoft's platform. What made you think otherwise? Just because GTA III-VCS was Sony exclusive? Wake up! Rockstar is a business, they do whatever they want as long as it earns money. I laughed hard when I read this post. Almost as funny as Guru's posts. As expected, Guru posts in this forum given the resergence of the rumor (coming to other platforms) again. It bothers you so much that this is even a possibility, regardless of if it will happen. That gives me much humor. This is a legit discussion and your request to lock it is unfounded without concrete evidence; just as much as you claim that there is concrete evidence in the other direction. Also and ultimately, dlc isn't something that excites me, it is additions to existing story lines of current characters (Niko) without having to play another separate "game" in the same city. I wish they would add more extras (random peeps, weapons, vehicles, and 'OTHER' stuff such as side things to do in the existing game), rather than completely new storylines as DLC as they are doing with these two installments. I look forward to the future (dlc or future games, gta next that is). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalosoulj4h20 Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Sony didn't want to exclude gamers from a content that is based on a game that came out for both consoles. That is not the only reason why they didn't pay for the DLC. They saw no need for it aswell. They are already working on an exclusive title with Rstar and a rumor is going around for another Rstar Psp release, so saying that they didn't have the money is stupid. Exclusive downloadable content deals are bad for business as you can see MS didn't make much as they intented for TLAD. Which might be one of the reasons why Sony didn't see the need for an exclusive DLC for 50 mill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuruAskew Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Just like all competition exclusive deals are good for business. They've always been a part of the video game business and the video game business has always done very well. It's not good for ill-informed consumers who support a product that doesn't deliver the content they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalosoulj4h20 Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Just like all competition exclusive deals are good for business. They've always been a part of the video game business and the video game business has always done very well. It's not good for ill-informed consumers who support a product that doesn't deliver the content they want. Oh, it must be real good because MS is really reaping in all the profits TLAD was supposed to make. Not really. It's good to have exclusive titles. That creates competetion, however when a game comes out on both consoles and only one gets the content, that's bad for most people, except for the ones who get to play it, like you and me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuruAskew Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 Who says Microsoft isn't reaping the profits? The Xbox 360 routinely outsells the PS3 (this is a fact) and 360 copies of GTAIV outsold PS3 copies 2 to 1 (also a fact) and this exclusive deal is obviously a huge part of that successful strategy. The $50 million deal has never been the kind of thing where X amount of sales is needed to justify the price. There are people who have educations and degrees who do market research professionally and even they can't be exactly sure exactly how successful the Rockstar/Microsoft deal was. They can have very educated guesses but short of asking every single person *why* they bought a 360 we'll never know how important this deal was to the fact that Microsoft routinely prevails over Sony this generation. Ultimately Microsoft has to look at it as one of many strategic moves that have led many people to their side as opposed to the PS3 side and for that reason I'm sure Microsoft isn't crying over the DLC sales too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyessorc Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 Who says Microsoft isn't reaping the profits? The Xbox 360 routinely outsells the PS3 (this is a fact) and 360 copies of GTAIV outsold PS3 copies 2 to 1 (also a fact) and this exclusive deal is obviously a huge part of that successful strategy. The $50 million deal has never been the kind of thing where X amount of sales is needed to justify the price. There are people who have educations and degrees who do market research professionally and even they can't be exactly sure exactly how successful the Rockstar/Microsoft deal was. They can have very educated guesses but short of asking every single person *why* they bought a 360 we'll never know how important this deal was to the fact that Microsoft routinely prevails over Sony this generation. Ultimately Microsoft has to look at it as one of many strategic moves that have led many people to their side as opposed to the PS3 side and for that reason I'm sure Microsoft isn't crying over the DLC sales too much. CTW did poorly (despite the amazing reviews across the board) as did TLAD (speculation by many sources) in terms of sales. Especially when you view the money paid for the deal, in whatever form it was (loan, not loan, etc.). It doesn't take a person with half a college degree to realize (I hope) that TLAD hasn't done for microsoft, more importantly for Rockstar what they had hoped. Couple that with the low CTW sales as of late, R* would need the small boost that releasing it on other platforms would provide. Nothing hugely substantial, I'm sure, but better than one console has provided. Also, Guru, you need to mention in your slanted stats (concerning the 2 to 1 ratio) that of course this would be expected given the install base at the time GTAIV came out, and considering this, actually PS3 did much better than expected GTA sales-wise. Also, if this 2/1 ratio nationwide or worldwide? Again, important things to clear up in your fanboy-ish rants. Just a tip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalosoulj4h20 Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 Who says Microsoft isn't reaping the profits? The Xbox 360 routinely outsells the PS3 (this is a fact) and 360 copies of GTAIV outsold PS3 copies 2 to 1 (also a fact) and this exclusive deal is obviously a huge part of that successful strategy. The $50 million deal has never been the kind of thing where X amount of sales is needed to justify the price. There are people who have educations and degrees who do market research professionally and even they can't be exactly sure exactly how successful the Rockstar/Microsoft deal was. They can have very educated guesses but short of asking every single person *why* they bought a 360 we'll never know how important this deal was to the fact that Microsoft routinely prevails over Sony this generation. Ultimately Microsoft has to look at it as one of many strategic moves that have led many people to their side as opposed to the PS3 side and for that reason I'm sure Microsoft isn't crying over the DLC sales too much. Much of what you have said is false and has been cleared up already. I am talking specifically about TLAD doing poorly exclusive wise, not how well each system is doing. I'm not sure if the 50 mill was a loan or was paid fully, but in order to get the real profits back up they would have to sell twice as many BoGT or hope 1 million people buy TLAD. As said before, it aint gonna happen, not in this econemy at least. Fallout 3 for example came out for Ps3 and Xbox, and only Xbox was able to get the DLC content. I guess Fallout 3's publishers realized that and saw great potential in selling on both platforms, because why be exclusive with a content? Leave that for titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuruAskew Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 (edited) It's funny how you guys just keep on ignoring the obvious additional console sales, Xbox Live memberships etc. the DLC brought and continues to bring. Edited May 28, 2009 by GuruAskew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookPassBabtridge Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 @buffalosoulj4h20: I agree its not cool that DLC is platform exclusive, but the whole reason MS pulled this move was to kick Sony in the nuts. Having downloaded TLAD, I dont consider it a system seller by a longshot, but MS obviously thought so. Or at least the idea of PS3 owners not getting their hands on it would make them switch to 360. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScratchCard Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 I still expect it to come out on PS3. Rockstar already has the 50 million, what they could only make more if they release it on PS3... perhaps Sony should give them a little gift. But still, there's that deal with MS we don't know anything about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerxr2 Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 This thread is starting to make me think that PS3 fanboys don't know the value of money. Let me put this straight Microsoft loaned Rockstar games $50 Million for TWO exclusive downloadable content packages. That means that the PS3 WON'T be getting TLAD or TBOGT. The Xbox 360 and Xbox 360 version of GTA IV out sold the PS3 and PS3 version of GTA IV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalosoulj4h20 Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 @buffalosoulj4h20: I agree its not cool that DLC is platform exclusive, but the whole reason MS pulled this move was to kick Sony in the nuts. Having downloaded TLAD, I dont consider it a system seller by a longshot, but MS obviously thought so. Or at least the idea of PS3 owners not getting their hands on it would make them switch to 360. I agree that they did that to boost the Xbox sales, who said I didn't? I was originally talking about why exclusive content is bad for most parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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