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GeForce Driver Release 185.81 BETA


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http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Find.aspx?lang=en-us

 

 

 

This is a beta driver supporting GeForce 6, 7, 8, 9, 100, and 200-series desktop GPUs.

 

New in Release 185.81:

 

Adds support for the new GeForce GTX 275 GPU.

Adds support for Ambient Occlusion – the newest NVIDIA Control Panel feature to offer enhanced 3D gaming realism exclusively to GeForce GPUs.

Adds support for CUDA 2.2 for improved performance in GPU Computing applications. See CUDA for more details.

Expands GPU hardware acceleration for the NVIDIA Video Encoding library to GPUs with less than 32 cores. Applications using this library include CyberLink PowerDirector 7, Nero Move it 1.5, Loilo SuperLoiloScope MARS, and CyberLink MediaShow Espresso.

Accelerates performance in several 3D applications. The following are examples of improvements measured with Release 185 drivers vs. Release 182 drivers (results will vary depending on your GPU, system configuration, and game settings):

Up to 25% performance increase in The Chronicles of Riddick: Assault on Dark Athena

Up to 22% performance increase in Crysis: Warhead with antialiasing enabled

Up to 11% performance increase in Fallout 3 with antialiasing enabled

Up to 14% performance increase in Far Cry 2

Up to 30% performance increase in Half-Life 2 engine games with 3-way and 4-way SLI

Up to 45% performance increase in Mirror’s Edge with antialiasing enabled

Automatically installs the new PhysX System Software version 9.09.0408.

Supports GeForce Plus Power Pack #3. Download these FREE PhysX and CUDA applications now!

Numerous bug fixes. Refer to the release documentation notes.

Users without US English operating systems can select their language and download the International driver here.

Existing Support:

 

Supports single GPU and NVIDIA SLI technology on DirectX 9, DirectX 10, and OpenGL, including 3-way SLI, Quad SLI, and SLI support on SLI-certified Intel X58-based motherboards.

Includes full support for OpenGL 3.0.

Supports NVIDIA SLI Multi-monitor support, giving you the ability to use two monitors with your GeForce graphics cards in SLI mode. Learn more here.

Supports NVIDIA PhysX acceleration on a dedicated GeForce graphics card. Use one card for graphics and dedicate a different card for PhysX processing for game-changing physical effects. Learn more here. Note: GPU PhysX is supported on all GeForce 8-series, 9-series and 200-series GPUs with a minimum of 256MB dedicated graphics memory.

Supports GPU overclocking and temperature monitoring by installing NVIDIA System Tools software.

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Release Notes (v185.81)

Control Panel User's Guide

 

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I definately ain't installing this beta driver, gonna wait until the final version for 185.81 is out.

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I installed it but it made no difference to my 4870! What am i doing wrong? It just keeps giving me errors when i luanch GTA. I was hoping nvidia would fix my problems but they make it worse! sad.gif

 

Im a pc expert for 30 years and i never have such problems.

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well I really dont look for updates for my g card I have the latest driver but im not installin this one lol just like GFWL update, what is this world commin to wow.gif

 

 

System Specs:

Intel Octo-Quadcore i7-9000 Super Hyper Death Extreme Edition / Windows 27 Ultimate 512 bit / 4000GB RAM / Nvidia Geforce 2859 GTX OC EXT / 4000 TB hardrive / 22000" Monitor @ 19800x24000

WTF is this comeon

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I installed it but it made no difference to my 4870! What am i doing wrong? It just keeps giving me errors when i luanch GTA. I was hoping nvidia would fix my problems but they make it worse! sad.gif

 

Im a pc expert for 30 years and i never have such problems.

nice joke 4870 and nvidia drivers mercie_blink.gif

 

this is why i want an nvidia card now

 

better drivers and software, i want 3D games too!!!

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I installed it but it made no difference to my 4870! What am i doing wrong? It just keeps giving me errors when i luanch GTA. I was hoping nvidia would fix my problems but they make it worse! sad.gif

 

Im a pc expert for 30 years and i never have such problems.

I hope you're joking.

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I get FPS increase with the new 185.81 BETA drivers.

 

Anybody else experience FPS increase?

 

Old Drivers:

 

Statistics

Average FPS: 40.45

Duration: 36.96 sec

CPU Usage: 96%

System memory usage: 68%

Video memory usage: 80%

 

Graphics Settings

Video Mode: 1280 x 1024 (75 Hz)

Texture Quality: Medium

Texture Filter Quality: Highest

View Distance: 15

Detail Distance: 15

 

Hardware

Windows Windows Vista" Extreme Edition

Service Pack 1

Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 Ultra

Video Driver version: 182.50

Audio Adapter: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)

Intel® Core™2 CPU 4300 @ 1.80GHz

 

File ID: Benchmark.cli

 

 

New BETA Drivers:

 

Statistics

Average FPS: 42.54

Duration: 37.14 sec

CPU Usage: 95%

System memory usage: 67%

Video memory usage: 78%

 

Graphics Settings

Video Mode: 1280 x 1024 (75 Hz)

Texture Quality: Medium

Texture Filter Quality: Highest

View Distance: 15

Detail Distance: 15

 

Hardware

Windows Windows Vista" Extreme Edition

Service Pack 1

Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 Ultra

Video Driver version: 185.81

Audio Adapter: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)

Intel® Core2 CPU 4300 @ 1.80GHz

 

File ID: benchmark.cli

 

 

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I installed it but it made no difference to my 4870! What am i doing wrong? It just keeps giving me errors when i luanch GTA. I was hoping nvidia would fix my problems but they make it worse! sad.gif

 

Im a pc expert for 30 years and i never have such problems.

Jesus christ ! lol.giflol.giflol.gif Are you serious ?! icon14.gif

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I installed it but it made no difference to my 4870! What am i doing wrong? It just keeps giving me errors when i luanch GTA. I was hoping nvidia would fix my problems but they make it worse!  sad.gif

 

Im a pc expert for 30 years and i never have such problems.

Jesus christ ! lol.giflol.giflol.gif Are you serious ?! icon14.gif

Judging by the rest of his post, probably not lol.gif

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I had problems with the other 185's beta's.. Not being able to get to Nvidia control panel.. desktop resolution kept resetting after every restart.

Any problems like those with these drivers?

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Hey all

 

Since gta iv's been released, Ive seen and heard a lot of complaints and made some of my own too. But for the past few months Ive had no problems with the game whatsoever

 

So I wanted to share my experiences and knowledge to help others out. It seems we all still stiving to get the game to run right, when we ought to realy be enjoying it.

 

Firstly, I have a core two extreme x6800 cpu @ 2.93 ghz, two cores and sli 260GTX (XFX). I have 4gb of corsair ddr2 @ 800mhz on an nforce 4, vista 64bit and an audigy 4 soundblaster. I play at 1920 1200screen res with vysnc on @ 60hz.

 

My graphics settings are set to high/highest/very highetc (the highest they go) and I balance performance by reducing draw and detail distances and shadow density reduced to 3. I aslo keep my traffic at 35% (a quad core makes a big difference here)I recommend you visit the Nvidia SLI forums where we have been working to run this game right (and some have acheived this). i average 40fps and the game runs really well. I recommend SLI is disabled for Nvidia gpu's. I am not sure about crossfire but ATI users may want to try disabling it for smoother performance. With SLI off I achieve a nice smooth consistant frame rate and my ingame videos play really smoothly without any hitches or stutters. My lowest frames are in day/night transittions and when weather is changing. This happens for a very brief few moments and then returns from 30 to 40+fps. My cards are 876mb VRAM and I fill it to about 840mb, leaving sufficient room for the card to perform optimally. If you choke the VRAM by adjusting settings so that the memory useage is over and above your available min, you MAY and most likely will run into more inconsistant frame rates, slow downs and/or loss of performance the longer you play.

 

So, be pratical and balance your settings. There really is no need to have all the sliders on the right, you will choke your systems or put them under extreme load for little gain. So its not worth it, and for others it will literally kill your framerate and/or the consistancy of your frame rate.

 

My recommendation, dont upgrade nvidia drivers if you have the game running right. I am on 182.05 and the game is absolutely fine. My user name on Nvidia SLI forums is Taz rose in case you want to see some of my own posts there regards performance.

 

Thank you rockstar for the PC version. It is by far the superior version of them all (I own a ps3 and 360, iv played it on all formats...360 version beats ps3 version handsdown for me, but others may disagree, each to their own)

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NiSsAn_BoY
can anyone confirm that the 8600 GT 512mb card gets any improvements?

no it dosent, its worse

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The drivers are working for me, I have noticed that GTA IV is a bit faster.

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185.81

 

 

StatisticsAverage FPS: 34.18Duration: 37.34 secCPU Usage: 96%System memory usage: 75%Video memory usage: 84%Graphics SettingsVideo Mode: 1680 x 1050 (60 Hz)Texture Quality: MediumTexture Filter Quality: HighView Distance: 14Detail Distance: 20HardwareMicrosoft® Windows Vista" Ultimate Service Pack 1Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX/9800 GTX+Video Driver version: 185.81Audio Adapter: Speakers/HP (IDT High Definition Audio CODEC)Intel® Core2 Duo CPU     E6550  @ 2.33GHzFile ID: benchmark.cli

 

 

185.20

 

 

StatisticsAverage FPS: 39.91Duration: 37.23 secCPU Usage: 97%System memory usage: 77%Video memory usage: 92%Graphics SettingsVideo Mode: 1680 x 1050 (60 Hz)Texture Quality: MediumTexture Filter Quality: HighView Distance: 14Detail Distance: 20HardwareMicrosoft® Windows Vista" Ultimate Service Pack 1Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX/9800 GTX+Video Driver version: 185.20Audio Adapter: Speakers/HP (IDT High Definition Audio CODEC)Intel® Core2 Duo CPU     E6550  @ 2.33GHzFile ID: benchmark.cli

 

 

Meh, bad for me confused.gif

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Worked just fine for me. 3.4Ghz CPU.

 

182.08

 

Statistics

Average FPS: 55.63

Duration: 37.21 sec

CPU Usage: 79%

System memory usage: 60%

Video memory usage: 97%

 

Graphics Settings

Video Mode: 1680 x 1050 (60 Hz)

Texture Quality: High

Texture Filter Quality: Very High

View Distance: 30

Detail Distance: 60

 

Hardware

Microsoft® Windows Vista" Ultimate

Service Pack 1

Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260

Video Driver version: 182.08

Audio Adapter: Speakers (Creative SB X-Fi)

Intel® Core2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @ 2.40GHz

 

File ID: benchmark.cli

 

185.81

 

Statistics

Average FPS: 58.55

Duration: 37.11 sec

CPU Usage: 80%

System memory usage: 62%

Video memory usage: 92%

 

Graphics Settings

Video Mode: 1680 x 1050 (60 Hz)

Texture Quality: High

Texture Filter Quality: Very High

View Distance: 30

Detail Distance: 52

 

Hardware

Microsoft® Windows Vista" Ultimate

Service Pack 1

Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260

Video Driver version: 185.81

Audio Adapter: Speakers (Creative SB X-Fi)

Intel® Core2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @ 2.40GHz

 

File ID: Benchmark.cli

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185.81

 

 

StatisticsAverage FPS: 34.18Duration: 37.34 secCPU Usage: 96%System memory usage: 75%Video memory usage: 84%Graphics SettingsVideo Mode: 1680 x 1050 (60 Hz)Texture Quality: MediumTexture Filter Quality: HighView Distance: 14Detail Distance: 20HardwareMicrosoft® Windows Vista" Ultimate Service Pack 1Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX/9800 GTX+Video Driver version: 185.81Audio Adapter: Speakers/HP (IDT High Definition Audio CODEC)Intel® Core2 Duo CPU     E6550  @ 2.33GHzFile ID: benchmark.cli

 

 

185.20

 

 

StatisticsAverage FPS: 39.91Duration: 37.23 secCPU Usage: 97%System memory usage: 77%Video memory usage: 92%Graphics SettingsVideo Mode: 1680 x 1050 (60 Hz)Texture Quality: MediumTexture Filter Quality: HighView Distance: 14Detail Distance: 20HardwareMicrosoft® Windows Vista" Ultimate Service Pack 1Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX/9800 GTX+Video Driver version: 185.20Audio Adapter: Speakers/HP (IDT High Definition Audio CODEC)Intel® Core2 Duo CPU     E6550  @ 2.33GHzFile ID: benchmark.cli

 

 

Meh, bad for me confused.gif

time for a quad core? check out your avg FPS and CPU usage

 

wink.gif

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Worked just fine for me. 3.4Ghz CPU.

 

182.08

 

Statistics

Average FPS: 55.63

Duration: 37.21 sec

CPU Usage: 79%

System memory usage: 60%

Video memory usage: 97%

 

Graphics Settings

Video Mode: 1680 x 1050 (60 Hz)

Texture Quality: High

Texture Filter Quality: Very High

View Distance: 30

Detail Distance: 60

 

Hardware

Microsoft® Windows Vista" Ultimate

Service Pack 1

Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260

Video Driver version: 182.08

Audio Adapter: Speakers (Creative SB X-Fi)

Intel® Core2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @ 2.40GHz

 

File ID: benchmark.cli

 

185.81

 

Statistics

Average FPS: 58.55

Duration: 37.11 sec

CPU Usage: 80%

System memory usage: 62%

Video memory usage: 92%

 

Graphics Settings

Video Mode: 1680 x 1050 (60 Hz)

Texture Quality: High

Texture Filter Quality: Very High

View Distance: 30

Detail Distance: 52

 

Hardware

Microsoft® Windows Vista" Ultimate

Service Pack 1

Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260

Video Driver version: 185.81

Audio Adapter: Speakers (Creative SB X-Fi)

Intel® Core2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @ 2.40GHz

 

File ID: Benchmark.cli

 

 

In the 185.81 benchmark you have the Detail Distance at 52 from 60 in the 182.08.

Could the detail distance be the factor in higher FPS and not the drivers?

 

 

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I installed it but it made no difference to my 4870! What am i doing wrong? It just keeps giving me errors when i luanch GTA. I was hoping nvidia would fix my problems but they make it worse! sad.gif

 

Im a pc expert for 30 years and i never have such problems.

You're not serious are you?

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I installed it but it made no difference to my 4870! What am i doing wrong? It just keeps giving me errors when i luanch GTA. I was hoping nvidia would fix my problems but they make it worse! sad.gif

 

Im a pc expert for 30 years and i never have such problems.

Ahhhh...ahhh OK, how should I put this...ahhhhhh... suicidal.gifsuicidal.gifsuicidal.gifanuj_cop.giffacedesk.gifdie.gif

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185.81

 

 

StatisticsAverage FPS: 34.18Duration: 37.34 secCPU Usage: 96%System memory usage: 75%Video memory usage: 84%Graphics SettingsVideo Mode: 1680 x 1050 (60 Hz)Texture Quality: MediumTexture Filter Quality: HighView Distance: 14Detail Distance: 20HardwareMicrosoft® Windows Vista" Ultimate Service Pack 1Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX/9800 GTX+Video Driver version: 185.81Audio Adapter: Speakers/HP (IDT High Definition Audio CODEC)Intel® Core2 Duo CPU     E6550  @ 2.33GHzFile ID: benchmark.cli

 

 

185.20

 

 

StatisticsAverage FPS: 39.91Duration: 37.23 secCPU Usage: 97%System memory usage: 77%Video memory usage: 92%Graphics SettingsVideo Mode: 1680 x 1050 (60 Hz)Texture Quality: MediumTexture Filter Quality: HighView Distance: 14Detail Distance: 20HardwareMicrosoft® Windows Vista" Ultimate Service Pack 1Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX/9800 GTX+Video Driver version: 185.20Audio Adapter: Speakers/HP (IDT High Definition Audio CODEC)Intel® Core2 Duo CPU     E6550  @ 2.33GHzFile ID: benchmark.cli

 

 

Meh, bad for me  confused.gif

time for a quad core? check out your avg FPS and CPU usage

 

wink.gif

True that, lol I am running on some crappy 40$ motherboard which can't overclock.

the ECS 7050VT-M sucks ass, its just temporary, I am planning to upgrade to a UD5P and a 955

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You were right, seems like the detail distance does have some effect on FPS even if its a few points in the settings.

 

heres with 60

 

 

Statistics

Average FPS: 56.47

Duration: 37.10 sec

CPU Usage: 80%

System memory usage: 38%

Video memory usage: 92%

 

Graphics Settings

Video Mode: 1680 x 1050 (60 Hz)

Texture Quality: High

Texture Filter Quality: Very High

View Distance: 30

Detail Distance: 60

 

Hardware

Microsoft® Windows Vista" Ultimate

Service Pack 1

Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260

Video Driver version: 185.81

Audio Adapter: Speakers (Creative SB X-Fi)

Intel® Core2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @ 2.40GHz

 

File ID: Benchmark.cli

 

So I guess these newer drivers didnt do anything to GTA4.

 

They did help Crysis out quite a bit, I can run Crysiis Warhead on enthusiast with 2X AA at 1680 res and keep 30FPS or higher all the time. Wasnt possible before to keep 30FPS with 2xAA for me

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I installed Windows 7 Ultimate X64 today, so far everything has worked fine and Crysis got a real nice boost in performance.

 

Heres the findings for GTA4 with a 3.4ghz quad

 

Vista 185.81 drivers

 

Statistics

Average FPS: 56.47

Duration: 37.10 sec

CPU Usage: 80%

System memory usage: 38%

Video memory usage: 92%

 

Graphics Settings

Video Mode: 1680 x 1050 (60 Hz)

Texture Quality: High

Texture Filter Quality: Very High

View Distance: 30

Detail Distance: 60

 

Hardware

Microsoft® Windows Vista" Ultimate

Service Pack 1

Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260

Video Driver version: 185.81

Audio Adapter: Speakers (Creative SB X-Fi)

Intel® Core™2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @ 2.40GHz

 

Windows 7 Ultimate

 

Statistics

Average FPS: 59.54

Duration: 37.03 sec

CPU Usage: 79%

System memory usage: 34%

Video memory usage: 93%

 

Graphics Settings

Video Mode: 1680 x 1050 (60 Hz)

Texture Quality: High

Texture Filter Quality: Very High

View Distance: 30

Detail Distance: 60

 

Hardware

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate

Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260

Video Driver version: 185.81

Audio Adapter: Speakers (Creative SB X-Fi)

Intel® Core2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @ 2.40GHz

 

So I didnt really get any worthy performance gains on Win 7. But 7 is faster than Vista icon14.giflol.gificon14.gificon14.gif

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I installed Windows 7 Ultimate X64 today, so far everything has worked fine and Crysis got a real nice boost in performance.

 

Heres the findings for GTA4 with a 3.4ghz quad

 

Vista 185.81 drivers

 

Statistics

Average FPS: 56.47

Duration: 37.10 sec

CPU Usage: 80%

System memory usage: 38%

Video memory usage: 92%

 

Graphics Settings

Video Mode: 1680 x 1050 (60 Hz)

Texture Quality: High

Texture Filter Quality: Very High

View Distance: 30

Detail Distance: 60

 

Hardware

Microsoft® Windows Vista" Ultimate

Service Pack 1

Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260

Video Driver version: 185.81

Audio Adapter: Speakers (Creative SB X-Fi)

Intel® Core™2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @ 2.40GHz

 

Windows 7 Ultimate

 

Statistics

Average FPS: 59.54

Duration: 37.03 sec

CPU Usage: 79%

System memory usage: 34%

Video memory usage: 93%

 

Graphics Settings

Video Mode: 1680 x 1050 (60 Hz)

Texture Quality: High

Texture Filter Quality: Very High

View Distance: 30

Detail Distance: 60

 

Hardware

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate

Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260

Video Driver version: 185.81

Audio Adapter: Speakers (Creative SB X-Fi)

Intel® Core2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @ 2.40GHz

 

So I didnt really get any worthy performance gains on Win 7. But 7 is faster than Vista icon14.giflol.gificon14.gificon14.gif

 

 

Are most or a few games and programs windows 7 compatible?

No tweaking needed to run applications?

 

 

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Are most or a few games and programs windows 7 compatible?

No tweaking needed to run applications?

Every game I have tried has had no issues working, and no tweaks needed. Most other software works fine too, save for the occasional one with compatibility issues which can usually be fixed with a few tweaks

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Are most or a few games and programs windows 7 compatible?

No tweaking needed to run applications?

Every game I have tried has had no issues working, and no tweaks needed. Most other software works fine too, save for the occasional one with compatibility issues which can usually be fixed with a few tweaks

I tryed and tryed to get GTA IV to run on Windows 7 32bit on my old computer and I could never get it to work....i read all about how to install it and I still ended up at the same place, I kno my Sims game will run on it also my Assassins Creed and NFS Undercover but GTA IV would not run.....I installed all the files and Windows live but still I got the same thing so I just installed Visa again

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