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Pierre grove

Leone's future.

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Jeansowaty

 

I hope that the Leone's were wiped out. They were the worst gang in the 3D Universe imo with their fa**ot-ass shotguns...

Talking from experience, Jean? Haha!

 

It's Jeans. Don't call me Jean. I'm not French!

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GTAKid667

I thought I said let's keep it on topic? I'll say it once more:

 

If you are going to post in this topic, keep it on topic or else it will be locked.

 

Thanks for your co-operation :^:

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//XP//

i think that Toni wanted to become the new boss, but Joey wanted to kill everyone that was staying in his way,including Claude...He sent a pager message to claude saying :"I am sorry..I was thinking that you killed my father...". Joey knew what he was doing...Joey sent Claude to kill Toni's mom and then Toni...Joey have heard from Misty that Mickey and Luigi wanted to find out who killed Toni....Joey send claude to kill them and Joey took over Luigi's club...Joey made a plan where Joey would send claude to collect something from Shoreside Lift Bridge....his plan was to destroy the bridge...Joey paid Darkel to put bombs on the bridge...The bridge exploded but Claude Miracly survived...Maria got kidnapped again,8Ball was shot by Joey Leone...Claude was left alone...He coudn't return to Portland...Around February 2002,Shoreside Lift Bridge got completely repaired...By that time..The Leones conquered almost all Portland...The Diablos were Gone...The Triads were almost gone,having just a small territorry in Chinatown,Around Mr.Wongs...After Claude has killed Darkel and found out About Joey's plan,it was too late...Joey had all Portland and started to extend to Staunton...Claude found out that Toni was alive,he was just hiding around Staunton...Toni,Claude,Maria,D-Ice and Mark(former Zaibatsu boss from LC,and a good friend of Claude) made a plan to kill joey...They burnt his garage,but only some leones were there..They rushed to The Gentlemen's club and with the help of some Red Jacks,some Zaibatsu members and some Yakuza members, they killed Joey,Burnt Gentlemen's club and got rid of the evidence...Around 2003-2004,when Claude left LC for Carcer City,The Leones became almost nonexistent...Then,after Mark died in 2010...Trey Welsh became the boss of the Zaibatsu and allied with the Leones...In 2013 around May,the Leones and the Zaibatsu hired an assasin to kill Claude...After Claude died,The Zaibatsu tried to destroy the Leones...After they killed the last remaining Leones,They took over St.Marks area...The onlyu surviving Leone member is Mike Leone...everyone thought that Mike died around 1995,but he was just hiding in Las Venturas...The leones conquered a small part of LV but they got ambushed by the Zaibatsu once again...Mike was killed by some old guy wearing a mask,that guy was in his 50's.It was Toni Cipriani, he wanted to kill him,to take revenge for Claude and some other friends that got killed...Toni started to work with the Zaibatsu and the Leones got wiped out,Forever

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Indy007

Well, whenever you go back to Liberty City you notice that mobsters constantly try whacking you. So I'm sure Joey places a hit on you. Although, to be honest, I don't remember going to the Don's house after beating the game.

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Pavle

Toni probably took over because all that Joey did was run that Auto Repair Shop.And all of those Mobsters that want to kill you are maybe just mad or pissed off for killing Salvatore.

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Spadge

Like IRL New York.

 

Little Italy gets smaller and Chinatown gets bigger.

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Indy007

It would be a cool idea if they made a novel based on the Leoni family after the events of Salvatore's death and explain what happened to Tony, Luigi and the rest of the gang. Or to just make a graphic novel based on GTA III.

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Sentrion

I guess Leones saw Claude's association with Yakuza as something which could overpower them, after Salvatore's death. It is likely Toni Cipriani and Joey Leone had taken over preccedings afterwards and they possibly cuts their ties with Claude, attacking him when spotted their area.

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Indy007

Ugh now I want to get a PS2...

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crashoverride93

I could see tony being the boss but I could also see Toni and joey having some sort of conflict over who the boss should be simply because joey was Salvatore's son.

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Jimmy

Since Toni was the Capo and Made Man from LCS events, it's likely that he was the successor to the Don. The Leone Family was shaken and outnumbered after the GTA III events and were restricted to the small territory they had under control, that being the Saint Marks. Most of their turf was either captured by the Diablos or the Triads. They knew that Claude's association with the Yakuza made him stronger and decided not to go after him.

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gta3derawasthebest

They get wiped out by the triads

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Indy007

You have no chance going back into Portland...They have perminant hits on you. Now, I'm assuming it's the men acting on their own tuition...but if that's the case, I'm not sure who they are working for or supplies them the money. I'm guessing either Joey or Tony are in charge...but at this rate...we will never know.

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Evil empire

Since GTA 3's action is set as the last in 3D universe I suppose the scenarists never imagined any aftermath for the fictional Leone gang after Salvatore's death so as for Maria Latore's fate it all depends of our imagination.

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iiCriminnaaL 49

They didn't avenge Salvatore's murder, but they were trying as much as they can; you can see what Claude gets when he passes by a Mafia controlled territory after murdering Salvatore.

 

What about the gang's leadership? Well, as Toni Cipriani was the right hand-man of Salvatore (aka underboss), while Joey Leone wasn't aware of the Mafia, it's mostly that Toni became the don, but don of the Leones? I don't think so, he is 'Cipriani', not 'Leone', so he would turn the organization from the Leone crime family to the Cipriani crime family. The gang members won't see any difference at all, they keep getting money, they keep working. (how did I know that Toni is actually the underboss? Simply because; after Vincenzo's death in 1998, Toni was the most trusted hitman of the Mafia, especially when he saved Salvatore, and then he became a made man in 'Making Toni', not to mention that Salvatore had already said it before "Toni, we run things together, me and you".)

 

If Toni did that, Joey wouldn't consider it as a betrayal, since he knows that nobody can handle the gang but Toni, and he knows that Toni isn't a Leone family's member (as a family, not as a gang), so it makes no sense to continue using the name 'Leone crime family'. Joey would keep working on his garage, Mickey would stay with Toni (maybe keeps working in Luigi's Sex club).

 

What will happen between the Leones (Ciprianis then) and the Colombian Cartel? Well, the cartel has already took the fall, after Miguel's death and the murder of Catalina. What about the Diablos and the Triads? Honestly don't know.

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A Wild Shinx

As a new member, I'm very fascinated and interested in this topic. Too bad the topic is dead right now 

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Jeansowaty

Jesus my responses were so dumb these few years ago lol. 

 

I firmly believe that the Leones kept themselves alive until 2002 and then they disappeared. There was a small internal dispute between Joey and Toni, with Joey becoming the official boss and Toni becoming his underboss (you can't become the boss when you've been the capo. Joey is likely the underboss and there must be a consigliere too). I believe that Joey later started abusing drugs and became far more violent and morbid like his father, he forced Toni to leave the US for good. His abuse of drugs led to a swift rise in power, however it quickly diminished and the Leones died out completely soon after Joey was assassinated by the Yakuza.

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Copcaller

Listen to what curly Bob says the leone are fighting a two front gang war against the forellis and triads. They win the gang wars with Claudes help but as a trade off they are limited to Portland. They try one lass attempt to whack Claude in some versions of the gang but after that fails I think they know it's smart to secure Portland. Toni probably became the boss joey didn't put in the work toni did. 

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Leone associate2

By GTA IV the leones are irrelevant so I assume some of them were joined with the pecorinos or the ancellottis

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KGBeast

The Leones wouldn't last long. Just watch the the final season of Sopranos and imagine Toni is Tony, Joey is Chris, Luigi is Silvio, and Mickey is Patsy. 

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Nico
On 11/12/2020 at 2:09 PM, Leone associate2 said:

By GTA IV the leones are irrelevant so I assume some of them were joined with the pecorinos or the ancellottis

GTA III and GTA IV are entirely different timelines. Chronologically speaking, III was the end of the 3D universe, and IV was the start of the current GTA universe. Very few things were kept in the transition. I wonder if people will fully understand this someday. 😑

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Leone associate2
On 11/13/2020 at 5:35 PM, Nico said:

GTA III and GTA IV are entirely different timelines. Chronologically speaking, III was the end of the 3D universe, and IV was the start of the current GTA universe. Very few things were kept in the transition. I wonder if people will fully understand this someday. 😑

But why does GTA V include Ballers and Grove street fam? I understand they are different timelines but some things crossed over.

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Indy007
On 11/15/2020 at 6:40 PM, Leone associate2 said:

But why does GTA V include Ballers and Grove street fam? I understand they are different timelines but some things crossed over.

Since GTA V takes place in San Andreas,  it makes it more fitting for them to include the Ballers and Grove St. fam.

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KGBeast
On 11/13/2020 at 5:35 PM, Nico said:

GTA III and GTA IV are entirely different timelines. Chronologically speaking, III was the end of the 3D universe, and IV was the start of the current GTA universe. Very few things were kept in the transition. I wonder if people will fully understand this someday. 😑

 

How are there still people who don't get this? It's not even a difficult concept, split timelines and multiverses have been staples of mainstream media for decades. DC has been doing it since the 60s. 

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Evil empire

According to some rumors Joey becomes the capo after a harsh struggle against Toni during a frosted winter.

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