Psymn321 Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Who is actually getting hurt out of this except pretentious fools who believe that i'm cheating in something non-competitive Theres nothing pretentious about calling a cheat a cheat. What you are getting confused about is, just spawning a car for people is not disrupting other peoples game, but it is clearly a cheat lol. You guys are pretty dumb for PC users Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamins0 Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 LETS DO A LITTLE EXPERIMENT TO SEE WHETHER CAR SPAWNING IS CHEATING Do a Team Death-Match Game. One team uses the car spawner mod, and the other team does not. After a full assessment of the game, decide whether car spawning is cheating or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachinator Posted April 20, 2009 Author Share Posted April 20, 2009 LETS DO A LITTLE EXPERIMENT TO SEE WHETHER CAR SPAWNING IS CHEATING Do a Team Death-Match Game. One team uses the car spawner mod, and the other team does not. After a full assessment of the game, decide whether car spawning is cheating or not. You moron. I stated in the 1st paragraph all i would be using it in is FREE MODE. Anywhere else is clearly cheating cos it's altering a competitive game mode. Free Mode is not cheating as there's no competitive nature. And to Jacky again, the reason i wanted to post here is that i wanted to know why more people will voice against car spawning in free mode on the forums but not ingame, and also to see who has an open mind to modding. It kinda almost shows materialism in alot of people as when your not getting anything out of it, its always bitching and moaning but when im dangling a shiny Super GT in front of someone its all thank you's and driving away no questions asked. The only reason people are now against all mods are because of the idiots in Deathmatches who use rocket smg's and trainers and im with you against that cos that's being blatantly unfair as the non-cheater will never win. But in free mode when i'm driving around now apparently people are against that, probably cos you think that if i use a car spawner im eventually gonna use a trainer and f*ck up everyone's game, which is stupid if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nietzsche's God Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 LETS DO A LITTLE EXPERIMENT TO SEE WHETHER CAR SPAWNING IS CHEATING Do a Team Death-Match Game. One team uses the car spawner mod, and the other team does not. After a full assessment of the game, decide whether car spawning is cheating or not. You moron. I stated in the 1st paragraph all i would be using it in is FREE MODE. Anywhere else is clearly cheating cos it's altering a competitive game mode. Free Mode is not cheating as there's no competitive nature. And to Jacky again, the reason i wanted to post here is that i wanted to know why more people will voice against car spawning in free mode on the forums but not ingame, and also to see who has an open mind to modding. It kinda almost shows materialism in alot of people as when your not getting anything out of it, its always bitching and moaning but when im dangling a shiny Super GT in front of someone its all thank you's and driving away no questions asked. The only reason people are now against all mods are because of the idiots in Deathmatches who use rocket smg's and trainers and im with you against that cos that's being blatantly unfair as the non-cheater will never win. But in free mode when i'm driving around now apparently people are against that, probably cos you think that if i use a car spawner im eventually gonna use a trainer and f*ck up everyone's game, which is stupid if true. So by your arguments in this thread, you are advocating the right to use car spawning in the free mode? It doesn't matter about what you intentions are, and I am sure you view it as harmless; but that being said, car spawners can't be trusted because the tool that you guys use can also be used to spawn tugboats. I would probably not care about car spawning as long as the trainer have some limitation on how many vehicles you can spawn or simply eliminate the tugboats off the spawn list. f*ck you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachinator Posted April 20, 2009 Author Share Posted April 20, 2009 Why in god's name would i spawn a freaking tugboat?!?!?!? What is the fun in spawning a god damn tugboat?! The idiocy i swear... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nietzsche's God Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 (edited) Why in god's name would i spawn a freaking tugboat?!?!?!?What is the fun in spawning a god damn tugboat?! The idiocy i swear... I am not saying you will or ever had spawn tugboats. I am saying that the tool that you use allows that option for you to spawn tugboats (or the annoying armor truck) and that is unacceptable for people like me who find that many players use it for the reason to f*ck our game up. That is why the majority of people don't want car spawners in the game solely for that reason. And stop being unpractical and do some thinking before you post dumb sh*t. Edited April 20, 2009 by Nietzsche's God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psymn321 Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 (edited) And im saying that whether or not you spawn tug boats, or you just spawn hookers in dark alleys for your own amusement, you are using a cheat and are by definition a cheater lol. Its not a complicated concept... You obviously feel somehow guilty or you wouldn't be here seeking acceptance, or is it that because you can and do spawn anything you want whenever you want, that you are bored of the game and just want to come here for some more attention, that just being 'the bringer of cheat cars' for free moders no longer delivers since your just one of a growing bunch of lamers and free mode is hardly worth playing anymore, soon to be followed by every other game mode... Either way, its pretty pathetic! Like you said, you just dont like interacting with other players when you've got your 'precious sultan gt' (rofl), so go play single player where you will be safe from other people who want to do nasty things to your wheels Edited April 20, 2009 by Psymn321 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachinator Posted April 20, 2009 Author Share Posted April 20, 2009 I don't feel guilt at all, and you seem to be jumping to that conclusion. I'm posting this to see why there's such a negative spin on something so harmless. And what's with the Hooker comment it doesn't even make sense? And how is it pathetic? Because i'm brining better levels of fun to an already good game mode? And FYI no I don't find any other game mode boring it's only that when I get a good car destroyed by little griefer children like yourself I prefer to get it back straight away rather than hunt for a new one. It saves alot of time. By the way what's a Sultan GT? Never heard of that... And Charlie if you come in here, PLEASE lock this topic. Why did i think i'd get a non-biased viewpoint... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardbug Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 Lol wtf are you talking about non biased, what you are asking is ridiculous, you are asking us to believe that you only spawn cars in free mode and for fun, but the odds of you being able to control those urges are infinitely lower than the odds of you being one of the cheaters we see day in day out spawning tugboats in races. But anyone not believing in your ability to control your urges are "morons" to put it in your own words, does that mean that you are a moron if you do not believe me when I tell you that Im the King of Norway ?? clearly the odds of me being the king of Norway is about the same as a cheater not using his cheat, but dont worry I wont call you a moron if you wont take my royal word for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psymn321 Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 I'm posting this to see why there's such a negative spin on something so harmless. Because its cheating in a multi player game lol, you're really f*cking dense. f*ck, it would be cheating in a single player game too, lol! And FYI no I don't find any other game mode boring it's only that when I get a good car destroyed by little griefer children like yourself Ive already given you the solution to that, its called SINGLE PLAYER! Going onto the big-bad-internet when you view other players in such a way is a little deranged... Why did i think i'd get a non-biased viewpoint... LOL, you mean some people in game call you a cheater (correctly), and youre surprised people on the forum call you a cheater too, wtf is with your denial... Anyway, i doubt CC is going to lock this down. You're too much fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 It's fairly simple; by using a car spawner you give yourself a vehicle you couldn't have used without it in the same period of time. That is a direct advantage which influences your gameplay; maybe you could have gotten the exact same vehicle somewhere else in Liberty City, but it would take more time. And since other people cannot use your car spawner, it's unfair as well. Ironically that fits the exact defintion of a cheat: anything that gives you an unfair advantage over other players. No competition involved. I was playing a ranked Deal Breaker match yesterday with a "car spawner". He directly spawned an army helicopter and flew towards the industrial area. By the time I got there by car all the enemies were dead, shortly after the escaping ones by boat were dead as well. While he flew back to Pegorino's place he sweared at me for being too slow. That was about three minutes in the match. This person was a level nine player... In free mode it's discussable, fair enough, but while you can get the infernus the other players have to settle with inferior vehicles. Fair? No, it's not. Regardless whether you use spawners in a competition or in normal mode, it gives you an unfair advantage over other players. Cheating is addictive, you start out with only using the spawner in free mode, but just around the corner in some other gamemode while no one is watching it's really tempting to spawn a vehicle for yourself as well. From there on the health, armour and weapon cheats are just a few clicks away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachinator Posted April 20, 2009 Author Share Posted April 20, 2009 I hate people who think using Mods are like taking drugs, wherein you do it once and it becomes more tempting to use more and more. Its moronic. And if people want a car they can ask me and i will gladly oblige. People don't seem to be able to tell the difference between giving someone a car and shooting a rocket pistol. And no in ranked/competitive game modes i will never use mods to gain a win but in Free mode I shouldn't have to drive something bad just because everyone else is... almost sounds like communism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badguy Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 No matter what you say or do no one is gonna stop cheating so stop your f*uckn whinging. Get over it and move on. Just take CSS for example. No matter whats being done to stop cheating its not gonna happen. Live with it and stop your f*ckn crying. Theres a million threads of people crying about "cheaters". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydro_PT Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 Spawning cars is cheating. Period. Now have saying that, I don't see no problem when someone spawns a SINGLE vehicle for himself to enjoy on FREEMODE or PARTYMODE. What, I'm not going to drive to Alderney just to get a Sultan RS, then get back to the airport. It's funnier to spawn one and enjoy it. And if something wrong happens, I can always spawn another one. I do that too, and I'm against cheaters or hackers in any other mode (ranked match or player match). If I want a nice Infernus, I can have one. Yes it's a cheat, but free mode is not a competitive mode, and as long as I don't annoy anyone, there isn't any problem. The problem comes when people abuse the car spawning tool and crash everyone's game. That happened twice yesterday. I was happily playing, doing some stunts on the airport and suddenly a bunch of helicopters started falling from the sky. The game started to lag and bang, "your computer is running too slow". After that I joined another free mode, and again someone decided to spawn a massive amount of cars. Luckily at this time I was ready, and I used the teleport function to go to the top of Rotterdam Tower. No lag there. Too bad the spawner saw where I was, teleported next to me and crashed my game too. That's why people don't want car spawners in MP. I agree it's fun and useful to use it in free mode. But it's so easy to use in ranked matches as well, and the temptation is too big. Isn't it? I know it is... I use that too lol. Sometimes I just want to spawn a helicopter and take Petro out of the cops area. But I don't do it, simply because I'm against cheating online. I hate that, so why would I do the same? I just wish more people would think like me. And after the car spawner it comes the god mode, speed boost, rocket pistol, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpus Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 I hate people who think using Mods are like taking drugs, wherein you do it once and it becomes more tempting to use more and more. Its moronic. While this may be true for some people and clearly not you what most people are trying to say is you are cheating. No matter what you say about "I only use it in Free Play" or "I give people cars if they ask" you are still cheating. So stop saying you aren't. Even in your fist post you said "does anyone think it's wrong if i do?" Well guess what? we've told you, we think it's wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psymn321 Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 Live with it and stop your f*ckn crying. Theres a million threads of people crying about "cheaters". What you seem to fail to recognize, is that this thread isnt about stopping people cheating lol, its about cheaters trying to claim that they are not cheating and even claiming to be a beneficial service to other players... Its so f*cking stupid its unbelievable. Ive even conceded that spawning a cars without crashing the server in free mode isnt disrupting anyone else, but it still clearly and obviously cheating... And im not under any illusions that this will prevent any toss-pot from spawning tug-boats in game, but if these tools get called a cheater in free-mode and then try to point people to thread as an example of why car spawners should be tolerated/arnt cheating, then thats just wrong because it clearly is... If you dont get it by now, then you will never get it so move along and well see how long it takes before y'all get bored of free mode and go griefing other game modes (tho i dont doubt for a second that most of you have already crossed that line)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 No matter what you say or do no one is gonna stop cheating so stop your f*uckn whinging. Get over it and move on. Just take CSS for example. No matter whats being done to stop cheating its not gonna happen. Live with it and stop your f*ckn crying. Theres a million threads of people crying about "cheaters". You're missing the point. Who exactly do cheaters think they are to change the entire multiplayer experience for people who want to play a fair match? Why do they think they're special; while normal people have to travel and search several minutes for that special vehicle, they grant themselves the "right" to get it using an alternative way. Grand Theft Auto doesn't have these features, and especially within multiplayer some people think it's fine to put them in by themselfes at the cost of the experience of others. I think that is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDawg Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 You guys sound like a broken record. Am I right in thinking that psymn321 doesn't like the car spawner? And, uh... you guys consider a car spawner in free mode bad? Err, I'm still not really sure about it, could you penis wrinkles go over it again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psymn321 Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 (edited) You guys sound like a broken record. sarcasm.gif Am I right in thinking that psymn321 doesn't like the car spawner? And, uh... you guys consider a car spawner in free mode bad? Err, I'm still not really sure about it, could you penis wrinkles go over it again? Dude, so you want any dissenting voice to just be quiet and let other people repeat their utter stupidity without being kicked into check time and time again? What sort of an insecure asshole are you?, if you don't want to hear other opinions stay off internet forums. I think its funny that this issue is so nailed shut that you cant form an argument to defend you position, so you resort to a silly ad-hominem attack that, as usual, reveals far more about your insecurities than anyone elses... If youre trying to shame people into silence then you should already be aware that were discussing 3rd party apps on a silly game forum revolving around a computer game, making a late claim for the grown up and mature ground was rendered obsolete the moment you registered for this forum, as it was for all of us... I already know that you like the spawners, and i suspect you also like other modifications that you would never be so bold as to speak openly about. Ive already seen the denial of the spawner users here, in their inability to accept that they are cheating, so i expect you will use the same denial to convince even yourself that you never use these cheats in other game modes, but i think we all know the score Bye bye EDIT : Just to clarify, im just posting for the lulz, ive got no shame in laughing at retarded people who cant understand such a simple concept as cheating lol Edited April 20, 2009 by Psymn321 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDawg Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 LMFAO, nice reply, psyman, but I'm still not clear on how you feel about car spawners in free mode, could you be a little more specific and go into greater detail? I think we'd all appreciate another snippet of wisdom from a paragon of virtue, such as you. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psymn321 Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 Did you even read that post? lol. That entire post was an amateur psychoanalysis of what i suspect your motivations to be. I hardly mentioned my personal thoughts on spawning vehicles at all, rather i surmised what may be your motivation to troll people (the vast majority), who don't condone or support cheaters in computer games... There are other forums for people who like to talk and participate in cheating on many games, perhaps you would be happier in one of them? As for virtue, i love how you use that word in a pejorative way, tho i think its easier to be virtuous than not, in the context of an online computer game. In your eyes, all i have to do to be virtuous is not download cheats to use in an online game lol. Perhaps its vanity that makes you want to cheat, or maybe an insecurity of some kind, and to be clear, im using the words vanity and insecurity in a pejorative way I can belittle you all day, i don't think misrepresenting what im saying in return is a good way to support your pr0-cheating stance but whatever, you chat however you see fit, just expect to be called on your utter bullsh*t, and that goes for all other cheats too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDawg Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 Ahhh I see, but could you clarify how you feel about car spawners being used in free mode? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psymn321 Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 (edited) I find talking about your motivations for cheating and trolling much more enlightening... Ask me about my feelings on spawning tho And if this is the way you deal with being at the losing end of a discussion, you debate like a creationist, how nice. Edited April 20, 2009 by Psymn321 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDawg Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 Oh no! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psymn321 Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 Funny how you feel like im all serious soon as youve got f*ck all to say... Ill take that as an apology for cheating and an reassurance that you will no longer use cheats online. Thanks for coming.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DroolingNoob Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 I think it´s sad that people cant just enjoy this game "unaltered" so to speak ... any modification that gives the user an advantage is a cheat ... so to answer the OP´s question: Hell yes! using a vehiclespawner is threading way too far. In any gamemode that is somewhat competitive, doesn´t matter if it´s ranked or not for me, using a spawner is definately cheating. Exactly what i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachinator Posted April 21, 2009 Author Share Posted April 21, 2009 Eh i've grown tired of the same stuff over and again... what people have said here hasn't changed my opinions on spawning simply cos i know deep down i'm not harming anyone so... go back to your rusty emperors while I drive by in a nice infurnace that didn't take ages to find and won't be hard to get back when a griefer blows it up. /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psymn321 Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 Eh i've grown tired of the same stuff over and again... what people have said here hasn't changed my opinions on spawning simply cos i know deep down i'm not harming anyone so... go back to your rusty emperors while I drive by in a nice infurnace that didn't take ages to find and won't be hard to get back when a griefer blows it up. /thread Just a parting word, perhaps if you called the thread; "Im going to cheat in GTA 4 regardless of your opinions!" ...it would have been over much sooner lol. hf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachinator Posted April 21, 2009 Author Share Posted April 21, 2009 Your definition of cheating differs to mine so my parting words would really be "Im gonna spawn cars for myself regardless what close minded fools think" Don't put words in my mouth cos it makes you seem like an idiot when the person your speaking for says different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjaak327 Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 People who still maintain that spawning a car in freemode is cheating, should buy a clue and a dictionairy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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