trickstar34 Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 All of Tierra Robada isnt solid. Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.080814-1236) Display Device: SiS 760 Processor: AMD Sempron™ Processor 3000+, MMX, 3DNow, ~1.8GHz Memory: 896MB RAM NO MODS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radioman Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 That sounds like a Video Card and/or a Processor problem where your PC isn't rendering the graphics fast enough. You probably have a weak Integrated card. What Video Card do you have? Have you tried updating the Video Card drivers? and Procesor drivers? If not, try that and remember to delete the .set file afterwards and load up the game and see if that helps. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girish Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 That is not normal. Did you get your other problem solved? Have you tried reinstalling the game? (I assume you have) I can't help but think that your integrated SiS graphic card is the culprit here. Because not even a driver updates has seemed to help your cause. Frankly speaking, I have no solution left to offer other than getting a dedicated graphic card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickstar34 Posted April 8, 2009 Author Share Posted April 8, 2009 I just updated it last night, my game was working just fine untill about last week. I'm reinstalling the game right now to see if that helps. I also noticed this is only happening to this save game. This doesn't always happen either, it kind of happens every once in a while (but it does get anoying because I'm doing Import/Export). But it does this more than it's solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickstar34 Posted April 8, 2009 Author Share Posted April 8, 2009 Did you get your other problem solved? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girish Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Err, don't double post. Use the EDIT button. As I said... Frankly speaking, I have no solution left to offer other than getting a dedicated graphic card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickstar34 Posted April 8, 2009 Author Share Posted April 8, 2009 To girishb: I think this started just after you did the mission "San Fierro Hills" for me inside of mission help. You told me I had the cars driving backwards glitch and you used some program to get rid of it. Do you think that could have caused this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTAuthority Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 To girishb:I think this started just after you did the mission "San Fierro Hills" for me inside of mission help. You told me I had the cars driving backwards glitch and you used some program to get rid of it. Do you think that could have caused this? Soms traffic glitch fixes cause strange problems. Try an older save eitjout glitch fix applied. Inactive in GTA/R* title modification indefinitely pursuant to a court order obtained by TTWO. Good job acting against modding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickstar34 Posted April 8, 2009 Author Share Posted April 8, 2009 (edited) I just reinstalled it and its working fine so far, but I've only tried once so I might still have the problem. EDIT: I just tried it a second time and it was fine, I think problem solved. Edited April 8, 2009 by trickstar34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girish Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 To girishb:I think this started just after you did the mission "San Fierro Hills" for me inside of mission help. You told me I had the cars driving backwards glitch and you used some program to get rid of it. Do you think that could have caused this? Nah, I don't think the glitch repair tool could have caused this. The issues seems more game related than savefile related. Besides, hmvartak has already covered all bases in that tool when it comes to savefile related glitches, I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riding like Rider Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 To girishb:I think this started just after you did the mission "San Fierro Hills" for me inside of mission help. You told me I had the cars driving backwards glitch and you used some program to get rid of it. Do you think that could have caused this? Nah, I don't think the glitch repair tool could have caused this. The issues seems more game related than savefile related. Besides, hmvartak has already covered all bases in that tool when it comes to savefile related glitches, I believe. look, i have no other way to contact you, so i'll just use this. ok you are a huge SOB. you think your a big man and all, just because you can lock a topic or two. well guess what? this website is crappy, and everytime i try search i get a stupid error message. this site is filled with error messages. i officially hate this site. everyone on here is a wanna be and think they know every little thing about gta. well guess what? YOU, THIS SITE, AND EVERYONE THAT STILL LIKES THIS SITE SUCK! follow the link, and i'll show you one of the deffinitions of gtaforums on urban dictionary: urban dictionary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickstar34 Posted April 9, 2009 Author Share Posted April 9, 2009 No, the problems still there. I'm going to contact R* for more help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menaced Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 To girishb:I think this started just after you did the mission "San Fierro Hills" for me inside of mission help. You told me I had the cars driving backwards glitch and you used some program to get rid of it. Do you think that could have caused this? Nah, I don't think the glitch repair tool could have caused this. The issues seems more game related than savefile related. Besides, hmvartak has already covered all bases in that tool when it comes to savefile related glitches, I believe. look, i have no other way to contact you, so i'll just use this. ok you are a huge SOB. you think your a big man and all, just because you can lock a topic or two. well guess what? this website is crappy, and everytime i try search i get a stupid error message. this site is filled with error messages. i officially hate this site. everyone on here is a wanna be and think they know every little thing about gta. well guess what? YOU, THIS SITE, AND EVERYONE THAT STILL LIKES THIS SITE SUCK! follow the link, and i'll show you one of the deffinitions of gtaforums on urban dictionary: urban dictionary Dude, calm down. If you don't like GTAF, don't come here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girish Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 @Menaced: Don't bother with him. He was temp banned for that post. @trickstar34: Is this problem with only one savefile or with all of your savefiles? Have you tried starting a new game? Perhaps, try downloading another savefile from here and see if the problem exists on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrionSR Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 trickstar34, if you are using an older Chain Game save (from rounds 20 through 36) it is possible that this glitch was introduced by one of tricks we were using to disable barriers and objects on versions that were different from our own. Once we identified the problem (ver. f, when rubregg joined the development team) we changed the process and this glitch should have been eliminated. It could be that someone else is using the documentation for our barriers trick, or perhaps using mismatched scripts could also mess things up. It's difficult to guess without knowing the history of the save. If my suspicions are correct the problem resides in the models block of the save, and this block has never been decoded so I can't suggest a method of repair. It might be possible to use a cleo script to enable the IPL stream so that section of the map becomes solid. However, it appears that this type of glitch occurs for other reasons, so I might be way off base here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickstar34 Posted April 9, 2009 Author Share Posted April 9, 2009 trickstar34, if you are using an older Chain Game save (from rounds 20 through 36) it is possible that this glitch was introduced by one of tricks we were using to disable barriers and objects on versions that were different from our own. Once we identified the problem (ver. f, when rubregg joined the development team) we changed the process and this glitch should have been eliminated. It could be that someone else is using the documentation for our barriers trick, or perhaps using mismatched scripts could also mess things up. It's difficult to guess without knowing the history of the save. If my suspicions are correct the problem resides in the models block of the save, and this block has never been decoded so I can't suggest a method of repair. It might be possible to use a cleo script to enable the IPL stream so that section of the map becomes solid. However, it appears that this type of glitch occurs for other reasons, so I might be way off base here. It's my own save game, not chain game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickstar34 Posted April 9, 2009 Author Share Posted April 9, 2009 (edited) @trickstar34: Is this problem with only one savefile or with all of your savefiles? Have you tried starting a new game? Perhaps, try downloading another savefile from here and see if the problem exists on it. No, it was solid. Heres a link to my save game, so you can see if the problem is to do with the save. Also as I forgot to tell in the origonal post, I had this save for v2, then I downgraded and used this save on the downgradded version, but CLEO didnt work, so I switched back to v2 with this save. Do you think that could have something to do with it? Link: http://gtasnp.com/17004 EDIT: Whenever I start the game (load it right after I start the game) the problem isnt there, but if I try it after about ten minutes then the ground isnt solid. Edited April 9, 2009 by trickstar34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTAuthority Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Hm, I don't see any problems with the save game -- that location streams in correctly. I think it really would be best to get a graphics card -- your other bug was a bug that was fixed in drivers for normal cards a month after SA's release. Even one for 40-50 euros (or equivalent in your currency ) will be able to run SA correctly, however you may need to watch out for a version that fits in the correct slot. Inactive in GTA/R* title modification indefinitely pursuant to a court order obtained by TTWO. Good job acting against modding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrionSR Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 NTAuthority, what version of SA are you running? If you have an original v1 game then your test may not accurately recreate the glitch. Part of the problem is that the IPL streams don't match between v1 and v2. Also, it may be a coincidence, but the IPL streams for countryN, the area trickstar is having problems with, appear to correspond with the IPL streams for the barriers in version 1. Note that the executable and script versions are not the issue if my suspicions are correct. In this case, v1 and v2 are referring to the version of GTA3.IMG. Trickstar's description of the problem seems awfully familiar. The problem seemed to be intermittent, and were usually apparent after playing for a while and then reloading the save. We were having problems in several areas, but I wouldn't expect them to be the same since we were running v1 games. Problem areas included; the area around Helena's house, the Creek save house and jump, the area south of the track spur that leads down to the NRG dry dock, the tunnels leading to the tarmac of the SF airport, and the buildings in that triangular block a little northwest of the Doherty construction zone. Trickster, you mentioned that you didn't notice the problem until after an SnP request. If it hasn't been too long then perhaps these files are still available. Have you tried testing your original save against the completed SnP request? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgar123 Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 (edited) To girishb:I think this started just after you did the mission "San Fierro Hills" for me inside of mission help. You told me I had the cars driving backwards glitch and you used some program to get rid of it. Do you think that could have caused this? Nah, I don't think the glitch repair tool could have caused this. The issues seems more game related than savefile related. Besides, hmvartak has already covered all bases in that tool when it comes to savefile related glitches, I believe. look, i have no other way to contact you, so i'll just use this. ok you are a huge SOB. you think your a big man and all, just because you can lock a topic or two. well guess what? this website is crappy, and everytime i try search i get a stupid error message. this site is filled with error messages. i officially hate this site. everyone on here is a wanna be and think they know every little thing about gta. well guess what? YOU, THIS SITE, AND EVERYONE THAT STILL LIKES THIS SITE SUCK! follow the link, and i'll show you one of the deffinitions of gtaforums on urban dictionary: urban dictionary lol he does mean it! (the signature lol! it really made me laugh xD) Refrain from making posts like these in the future, especially in troubleshooting topics. - girishb Edited April 10, 2009 by girishb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menaced Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I'm pretty sure the models you are seeing are LOD models (the models without a collision, are bad quality and you see them when you are some distance away from them). I once deleted most of the Bone County map in MEd Map Editor and there were only LOD models left. But you claim to have not used mods, and you have reinstalled the game. If you haven't already, maybe you should have a fresh start with the game? Delete all the save files in the "GTA San Andreas Userfiles" folder (make backups though!), and reinstall the game COMPLETELY just to see if it fixes the problem. If not, then it has to be an issue with your graphics card or drivers. If you haven't already, try updating your drivers. That usually works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickstar34 Posted April 10, 2009 Author Share Posted April 10, 2009 Yea thats what they look like, I also have a problem with character models, (this was displayed in a different troubleshoot topic) and when its foggy or a sandstorm then they show up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTAuthority Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 Initial testing with v2 IPL streams does not make this problem occur to me -- however, tomorrow I'll try a full stress test. Inactive in GTA/R* title modification indefinitely pursuant to a court order obtained by TTWO. Good job acting against modding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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