The-King Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 How I love living in a world full of scum who are too self righteous to atone for their own mistakes and instead leave the people who really matter high and dry. It's a true shame to see IsaraPix go, I always cringed when I saw an image hosted anywhere else and now I have to use one of those less than high quality hosting sites who profit from their users. Oh well, the world goes on. Here's to hoping that your Host reconciles your loss, as hopeless a venture as that is. |PropagandaIncorporated:|: Steam:|: DeviantArt:|: Last.FM| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Problem lies with providing a service and keeping the customer happy by living up to their expectations, and perhaps exceeding them. When the competition heats up, sometimes change is forced, but I've seen this happen with Dazzle when Pinnacle bought them up, no support followed suit for those owners! Little, if any, really. Here's an example of hot girls that Photobucket doesn't delete, this is a still from a pron scene where she still had clothes on, BTW! hahaha Love how they IMaGe bracket URLs and well as other options on that site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanandlerBong Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 This is sad to hear, I didn't use IsaraPIX that much but I had heard of it. I was wondering the whole day why loads of peoples sigs and avatars had gone , I thought it was just IE8 acting up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nlitement Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 How I love living in a world full of scum who are too self righteous to atone for their own mistakes and instead leave the people who really matter high and dry. It's a true shame to see IsaraPix go, I always cringed when I saw an image hosted anywhere else and now I have to use one of those less than high quality hosting sites who profit from their users. Oh well, the world goes on. Here's to hoping that your Host reconciles your loss, as hopeless a venture as that is. There's Abload.de Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anuj Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 So they don't do backups for large sites, and they "mistakenly" delete numerous accounts' data? Man, you might want to talk to some sort of lawyer about this. I know we Americans are quick to sue and all that, but this isn't hot coffee on your lap, this is a serious f*ck up. If they don't want to admit wrongdoing or try to offer you some settlement, tell them to talk to your lawyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 He may just use the verbal threat of suing them to get them to take action, but it's worth staying on their case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geomy Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 (edited) So they don't do backups for large sites, and they "mistakenly" delete numerous accounts' data? Man, you might want to talk to some sort of lawyer about this. I know we Americans are quick to sue and all that, but this isn't hot coffee on your lap, this is a serious f*ck up. If they don't want to admit wrongdoing or try to offer you some settlement, tell them to talk to your lawyer. There is some liability issue they are trying to skirt around, especially with Isara being a charitable org. Don't let big business push you around and try to cover their asses with 'no accountability.' ... It doesn't make any sense: they host your bandwidth, they deleted it, that should be all the accountability. I'm with anuj - take them to court. EDIT - Either way, sad that you Isarapix is out of commission, but thanks for being the best imagehost on the 'net. You'll be missed, and I look forward to a healthy comeback soon! Edited April 8, 2009 by geomy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-King Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 So they don't do backups for large sites, and they "mistakenly" delete numerous accounts' data? Man, you might want to talk to some sort of lawyer about this. I know we Americans are quick to sue and all that, but this isn't hot coffee on your lap, this is a serious f*ck up. If they don't want to admit wrongdoing or try to offer you some settlement, tell them to talk to your lawyer. There is some liability issue they are trying to skirt around, especially with Isara being a charitable org. Don't let big business push you around and try to cover their asses with 'no accountability.' ... It doesn't make any sense: they host your bandwidth, they deleted it, that should be all the accountability. I'm with anuj - take them to court. I'm not sure exactly what legal actions you can take given your current whereabouts in Thailand, but if you have some volunteers in the homeland than I'm sure there's some legal precedent with which you could use against your host. Just the fact that your a charitable organization puts you in the right in the eyes of a jury, if anything they would settle out of court and you would have more funds with which to do your charity work. |PropagandaIncorporated:|: Steam:|: DeviantArt:|: Last.FM| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottae Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Aww this is awful! Really sorry to hear it pk You're still doing a great job, regardless of the webhoster's cock-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sofa_king Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Man, you might want to talk to some sort of lawyer about this. Anuj is right! I valued my sig at approximately $600 USD. I'm thinking others may be in a similar situation. This has class action written all over it. Just think of how much exposure isara would get if we demanded the settlement be paid in full in the form of helmets! bye isara pixs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 (edited) Did it really hurt your business? Loss of customer traffic? Online advertising revenue?? I don't buy it. neither will the jury Edited April 9, 2009 by Slamman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runey Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Did it really hurt your business? Loss of customer traffic? Online advertising revenue?? I don't buy it. neither will the jury Will you please shut the f*ck up? Lots of people used Isarapix and despite what you think, it did help, because every visit does. I don't care that you still host your pictures on f*cking AOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digïtál £vîl Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 need a lawyer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K^2 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Anuj is right! I valued my sig at approximately $600 USD. I'm thinking others may bein a similar situation. This has class action written all over it. Just think of how much exposure isara would get if we demanded the settlement be paid in full in the form of helmets! If you guys also promise that all the class-action settlement money will go to charity, I think you'd get good public support behind you. Prior to filing a bug against any of my code, please consider this response to common concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmellyJelly Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 need a lawyer? That made me smile. It's still sad to see IsaraPIX gone though. Thankfully I didn't have any important images saved, (at least none that I don't have on my HDD), but it's still a shame because I'm sure a lot of people lost some really great stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guybrush Threepwood Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Did it really hurt your business? Loss of customer traffic? Online advertising revenue?? I don't buy it. neither will the jury Will you please shut the f*ck up? Lots of people used Isarapix and despite what you think, it did help, because every visit does. I don't care that you still host your pictures on f*cking AOL. I agree, but I'll try to explain it to slamman by using less 'f*ck's. Dear Slamman, Isarapix, as you may know, was an image host. People could host there images, and as you could judge from the support in this topic, and the loss of many sigs around the place, it had a large group of users. This may be construed as 'loss of customer traffic', and not only construed, it implies and defines it entirely, 100% as such. Did it hurt his business? It wasn't a business, 100% of the revenue went to charity. A much more admirable goal than sticking it in your own pocket. So the loss of online advertising revenue means the loss of income for some charities. Again, this is pretty clear cut. And did it hurt their business? Well, if it's not there, that means their business has been nullified. Reduced to zero, is non-existant. Again, they've lost their entire business. So please dear Slamman, go back to your post and edit it with 'I am a big poopyhead who doesn't know diddly squat, and contributed nothing other than to piss off members and people who have done a lot of work for these charities.' sh*t man, f*ck.* *couldn't help myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digïtál £vîl Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 As far as I know for this case, for those of you talking class action lawsuit, that isn't how it would work. It would be between Isara (the customer) and the hosting company. You guys should read the standard user rights for image hosting sites sometime. But hell, I don't know all of the factors, so something could be up that I don't know about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pico Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Every time I open this thread and see that picture I just think... TRAP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K^2 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Anyone can have a class action against anyone. Someone on this forum can sue the Isra's host as an action of the class of all Isra users or all users from GTA Forums specifically. Now, that suit might not be successful, but it can be pulled together. Prior to filing a bug against any of my code, please consider this response to common concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTArv Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Was afraid so when I saw IsaraPIX down yesterday, lost a few good images. Oh well, time to move on. Thank you for the wonderful image hosting service you had provided all along PK, rock on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trows Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Man, you might want to talk to some sort of lawyer about this. I'm thinking others may be in a similar situation. This has class action written all over it. Well, i've been using Isarapix to host all the images for the myspace band pages i've put together, so I put some worth into it! No dough this post will get questions and and maybe even some fighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digïtál £vîl Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 (edited) Anyone can have a class action against anyone. Someone on this forum can sue the Isra's host as an action of the class of all Isra users or all users from GTA Forums specifically. Now, that suit might not be successful, but it can be pulled together. I never said it couldn't be done. I said it doesn't really apply. Unless you have legal training on the issue that I don't, seriously, please inform me as to why I am wrong and it would actually work. Isara likely said in their user agreement that they retain rights for images hosted on it. Meaning they retain the right to keep, modify (if they wanted), reuse, or delete any material hosted on the site. In truth, the user agreement likely created a sort of shield for the users. Separating them. Preventing liability on Isara's part and removing the user from having many rights in using their site. This means if sh*t disappears, users can't complain as it was stated in the user agreement that it could happen. There is no claim (that I can think of) that you can issue under a class action suit that would even work to get you into court. If your claim is so off that it is obvious it doesn't apply within the bounds of the law or contract signed, the company's lawyers will quickly move to dismiss. You can't claim loss of business on your end as a user of the site because when using the site you agreed to conform to the terms of service. These rules likely included a clause about you not having any rights to enforce if your images are deleted or removed by accident or on purpose; this is because of Isara's "ownership" of the image storage and space. By uploading images you are agreeing to the user agreement (terms of service) and have no right to claim reliance on the public service of image hosting for your business. I don't know how to explain that more simply, so I hope it makes sense. It just doesn't work that way under the law. As it is, this real issue is between Isara's agreement (or contract) with the hosting company and his non-profit. When paying for the service, they made a legal agreement on terms of the services provided. This agreement would detail the hosting companies liability toward hosting his data (what they are responsible for). This is where Isara will have to check to see if, under the agreement, the hosting company takes any liability for loss of data under acts of accident. Most data hosting companies, I'm sure, would have at least a line in their contract stating data loss under act of god or accident (even from programming) resolves them from liability of loss. If they didn't include a clause like that, they'd need to carry heavier insurance against the data they store as well. Which would cost the company more money. Perhaps if he could prove that they knew it would occur before it happened due to coder error, etc. Then, he could push some form of corporate negligence and if he plays his cards right, fraud (still unlikely). But I doubt that will happen. In truth, the case he has right now is more of an unhappy customer. Under basic consumer law, they aren't required to hurry or show urge in giving him a refund. As long as they don't purposely delay or make it difficult to receive the payment toward him if he is really due the money. Hell, if they covered their asses, they could very well not have to give him a refund as he might have signed and absolved their liability toward him in the contract. In truth, it is more of an ethical relations issue. They don't want to lose him as a customer, so they will offer a refund for the inconvenience and to keep you "satisfied", but they don't have to do it to the maximum standard. Just the legal minimum. If they pass the standard and dip into negligence or mistreatment, maybe. Otherwise this is all PR and customer service. Yeah, this is what legal stuff does to you... tl;dr version: Try to name what they can file the class action lawsuit under. It just isn't there. You can't just take someone into court saying "I don't like them because they upset me." You have to apply your suit to the confines of the law and name what you are filing against them for. Loss of stored images, in the user's case, is very unlikely to apply. Edited April 9, 2009 by Digïtál £vîl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swarz Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 All those hot chicks... gone... --- AMF --- -= A joke is a very serious thing - Winston Churchill =- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Theft Auto Dude Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Damn, I used IsaraPIX for all my image hosting. It quick and easy, plus the whole charity thing was great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldage Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 All those hot chicks... gone... The hot chick topic is....ah well, go see for yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cursed Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 At first I thought something was wrong on my end. IsaraPix was simply the best image host. Quick and easy. The worst part is all the missing images from topics like "Post your desktop/PC" etc. I feel bad for all the people who only had them hosted and not stored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chennaz321 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 NOOOOOOOOOOO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhoda Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Very sad news as Isara has become a staple image hosting function and a unique way to help the less fortunate. With the sheer volume of how many GTAF members used this service, it's certainly a shock to see it go. Bad news indeed, and I'm sorry for all those who lost images through it's closure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gouveia Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 IsaraPIX was the one I used the most due to the charity thing. I know it didn't support .bmp (as far as I remember), but who the hell would upload a .bmp image anyway? Anyway, sorry to hear that it's gone. Hope that it comes back, even if it's back from scratch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderbro Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 I just now remembered! All of my forum buttons were saved in IsaraPIX!! NOOOO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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