Bust up Rust

[Slamman]

Hey guys, I know WE ALL HATE RUST,

 

 

 

 

correct?

 

Well, one of the chemical product revolutions I bought and yet to give a try is one called "Rust Converter", Turns Rust to black primer. The reason I haven't used it is I don't have a good white painting method and black primer will show up on a car with white paint.

I also never dealt in car body work myself, but the rust is driving me mad. This product is put out by a company called "Klean Strip", wanting to get your thoughts.

 

Also on sheet metal where parts are exposed and rusting, what do you do about the rust specks that get sprayed over the good paint sections (I have a rose tinted body panel thanks to the rain I assume, and other water sources on the open rust. This effects my aluminum wheels which have painted mag sections. I was told some wire cleaning scrub with perhaps mild acid would work to take the build up off and aid in regaining metallic shine.

 

I know about the toughts regarding Bondo and noticable patching jobs, here nothing needs to be Car show Concourse material.. Just trying this bottle of Converter and some paint on the old parts. The way I've thought it over is to experiment and maybe try some homemade graphics for fun, but I am not too sure, considering how rare my car is, There's no denying the rust factor pretty much means a donor car will be needed for a proper restoration project.

[tuff_luv_capo]

Requesting a lock.

[Slamman]

REquesting a temp ban on Tuf Luv

 

I'm serious about this. One thing I read said to get some scrap car part to practice repair work on, but the only ones I bought are for replacing the old ones, so they're already in good shape.

I'm curious how to tackle rust stains in particular, or if anyone's familar with the product?

[kokot]

 

I don't think there's any magical solutions out there you can apply to rust. The best thing to do is sand and grind until it's ALL gone, *then* apply one of this rust inhibitors, then prime it straight away and paint it.

 

Once rust gets started, it's like a bloody cancer and it will spread so you need to remove all of it. Any exposed metal from damage should be immediately cleaned, sanded and repainted before rust sets in.

 

Failing that, body shops are great at cutting out entire sections and replacing them, but that's beyond my ability.

 

I doubt this Rust Converter does what it says, but there's no harm in trying it. You should sand down what you can first tho, I think.

[stretch.]

Loctite do something called Krust.

 

It neutralises surface rust. it won't work magic on penetrative rust. In which case you'd need a replacement panel, cut out the rust, weld with weld through primer, and then filler and paint.

 

The only way to stop rust is prevention, galvanising, waxoyl etc.

 

If you've not stopped it by prevention then it'll be replacement.

[rmmstnr]

A couple of months ago, Hot Rod Magazine did an article on rust removers. Here it is:

 

http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/body/hr...uide/index.html

[Slamman]

I got a whole bottle of the stuff I bought, and I figure the other method is buying new sheet metal panels and replacing the old, without a lot of wet and dry sanding, material for pounding out dents, work space, etc... I'll at least try it in real bad spots of the car. There was a way to reverse rust with electricity I mentioned way back when, I think HotRod published that story, or it was Car Craft

[Wheelman]

You can't "reverse" rust. You can't backtrack on the chemical reaction that creates rust and make pure metal again. Anything advertising as such is lying. You can prevent further rust by painting, galvanisation, etc, but you can't just "undo" rust.

[Rocketkiller]

You can't "reverse" rust. You can't backtrack on the chemical reaction that creates rust and make pure metal again. Anything advertising as such is lying. You can prevent further rust by painting, galvanisation, etc, but you can't just "undo" rust.

You can't undo rust, but you can target it specifically and remove it. Rust is metal oxide, if you make a chemical that dissolves metal oxide you'll dissolve rust. These products don't actually reverse the rust process because like you said it's impossible. All they do is dissolve surface rust and leave the bare metal under it.

[Slamman]

The process involves clipping metal to the rusted part, applying an electrical charge, I saw it on TV or in an article once, I forget the technical ins and outs, but I wish they explored it more so I could refresh my knowledge of it. Most people will buy the good sheetmetal fender, hood, any panel they can find, but things like roof pillars and rear sail panels are going to be obvious weld and cut tasks!

 

The clipping of good metal to the bad rusted area is what facilitates a replacement process of rust in an infected area.

Edited April 15, 2009 by Slamman