Anyone wish they'd make one more last-gen GTA?

[Royal55]

I know this would never happen unless released for PSP or DS (even then it's a long shot) but am I the only one that would love to see one more HUGE last-gen looking and feeling GTA? I loved the III trilogy and it's a shame it had to end and to be honest at times I get a little bored with GTAIV's story and the whole realistic look. I was just wondering your thoughts on this.

It'd be cool if somewhere down the road they released a brand new game on the XBLM and PSN with everything you could dream of for a last-gen GTA.

 

 

[Omnia sunt Communia]

I know this would never happen unless released for PSP or DS...

Rockstar have already released a game for the Nintendo DS. It was a current generation game and featured Grand Theft Auto IV's rendition of Liberty City as well as characters, vehicles and gangs from the new series.

 

I'm not fussed either way. The Grand Theft Auto III Era was good, and all, don't get me wrong. But it's time to move on. We've already had six games within that era (III, VC, SA, Advance, LCS & VCS). It's time to move on!

 

The great thing about leaving the GTA III Era at the point they did, means that there is lots left for us; the fans, to think about. We can create our own endings, our own futures, our own possibilities. I think that's alot more fun than having one last game that does nothing for the franchise.

[Tommy Dickfingers]

Yeah, I know a lot of people (myself included) are hoping/wishing for San Andreas Stories, this would end the GTA III canon nicely.

 

There is a lot of scope for a San Andreas follow up, but I don't think it will happen now unfortunately.

[Sergi]

 

Yeah, I know a lot of people (myself included) are hoping/wishing for San Andreas Stories, this would end the GTA III canon nicely.

 

There is a lot of scope for a San Andreas follow up, but I don't think it will happen now unfortunately.

The GTA III canon is not over since they are all connected in the same universe. I'd suggest you guys who keep using this different canon and different universe bull go look on the GTA IV Network archives that has all the "official" info ever released by R* and see that nowhere did R* ever say anything about different canons, different universes and only said this was just a new story and may just be a standalone story.

 

Anyways there's always the chance that a SAS may be released. Here's hoping an E3 09 announcement.

[Omnia sunt Communia]

You're going to sit here and tell me that Grand Theft Auto III and Grand Theft Auto IV take place in the same universe? It's obvious that they don't. The first thing being that we have seen two completely different versions of Liberty City which cannot possibly be the same.

 

How do you explain the lack of characters from GTA III? How do you explain the city changing drastically between 2001 and 2008? The only real explanation is that they are two different versions of the same place. Which can only exist in two separate universes.

[Sergi]

 

You're going to sit here and tell me that Grand Theft Auto III and Grand Theft Auto IV take place in the same universe? It's obvious that they don't. The first thing being that we have seen two completely different versions of Liberty City which cannot possibly be the same.

 

How do you explain the lack of characters from GTA III? How do you explain the city changing drastically between 2001 and 2008? The only real explanation is that they are two different versions of the same place. Which can only exist in two separate universes.

Oh God I really have to get on this argument again? Anyways if you look up the countless same universe vs different universe arguments then you'll see numerous reasons why they could easily co exist.

 

1st off as it's been said they could both be in Liberty State or Liberty City State which was on license plates. They could co exist in a metropolitan area or IV LC could be the blocked off Upstae Liberty we couldn't get to. Also the lack of characters could be maybe because we experienced IV LC for say months at best in the game's storyline. Not to mention the various hints such as the Donald Love Liberty Tree cover story which shows he exist, the Area 53. com website which shows that radio show existed as well as the events and characters the Chatterbox mentions on the Integrity 2.0 announcement found on line, the mentions of past areas such as Gurnesy and the Brix, LoveFist posters, the Crow interview and so on. As I said if this was a different universe R* would have said so and guess what, they didn't even make hints even remotely towards this being a seperate universe. As I said read the news archives for info.

Edited April 5, 2009 by Sergi

[Flesh-n-Bone]

I personally hate the new step GTA is taking. IV gets boring with the lack of replay value, the previous GTA's were fun at every way to play even after the missions were finished.

[Omnia sunt Communia]

 

They could co exist in a metropolitan area or IV LC could be the blocked off Upstae Liberty we couldn't get to.

That doesn't add up either. In Grand Theft Auto III and Liberty City Stories, Liberty City was connected to a landmass that joined the mainland as it headed north "upstate." Liberty City, in Grand Theft Auto IV, is a stand-alone island with no connections to mainland America.

 

How would you explain that these two places are connected?

 

 

I personally hate the new step GTA is taking. IV gets boring with the lack of replay value, the previous GTA's were fun at every way to play even after the missions were finished.

 

You should play Chinatown Wars. It's a real "return to form" for Grand Theft Auto. They reintroduced a lot of the side-missions they left out of IV as well as the humour that we all love so dear. I'd really recommend it if you don't like Grand Theft Auto IV's new direction.

[Flesh-n-Bone]

You should play Chinatown Wars. It's a real "return to form" for Grand Theft Auto. They reintroduced a lot of the side-missions they left out of IV as well as the humour that we all love so dear. I'd really recommend it if you don't like Grand Theft Auto IV's new direction.

I would definitely get it, if I had a DS of course.

 

Because I'm glad rampages, side missions and the likes have returned.

[Omnia sunt Communia]

I would definitely get it, if I had a DS of course.

 

Because I'm glad rampages, side missions and the likes have returned.

It's a shame that you don't already. Though they should be going down in price now that Nintendo have released the DSi. If you manage to find another game, or few, that you would buy along with it; then I'd defiantly recommend getting one.

 

The gameplay is very reminiscent of GTA 2, if you've ever played that. Very old school with some old school game play features like you said. Defiantly my favourite GTA to date.

[Sergi]

They could co exist in a metropolitan area or IV LC could be the blocked off Upstae Liberty we couldn't get to.

That doesn't add up either. In Grand Theft Auto III and Liberty City Stories, Liberty City was connected to a landmass that joined the mainland as it headed north "upstate." Liberty City, in Grand Theft Auto IV, is a stand-alone island with no connections to mainland America.

 

How would you explain that these two places are connected?

 

 

I personally hate the new step GTA is taking. IV gets boring with the lack of replay value, the previous GTA's were fun at every way to play even after the missions were finished.

 

You should play Chinatown Wars. It's a real "return to form" for Grand Theft Auto. They reintroduced a lot of the side-missions they left out of IV as well as the humour that we all love so dear. I'd really recommend it if you don't like Grand Theft Auto IV's new direction.

Well you seem to forget that the maps cut off. With III LC Shorside Vale just ends with a giant landmass and we don't get to see what's past it. With IV we just see where Alderney ends. Also however maybe it's another river that sperates III LC and IV LC who knows. Like I said R* has never even made the notion that these are seperate universes and there's more links that show they are all connected then links that say they aren't. Also reading through the news archives yesterday numerous interviews showed Dan Houser when asked about returning characters he just smiled or laughed or said no comment. Now if they weren't connected he'd just say off the bat this is a brand new storyline with no past connections and a brand new universe. He didn't.

 

Also he said "Virtually no returning characters and alot of them are dead anyways". Virtually means they wouldn't appear in form but that doesn't mean on the internet, radio or billboards or news articles. Once again if they were seperate universes he's have said it in an interview asking about returning characters.

[Omnia sunt Communia]

I still like to think that those characters mention on the internet, radio and newspapers are all references to the previous games; rather than hints towards their returns. Just like "Wang Cars" in San Andreas. There was a similar dealership in Grand Theft Auto 1, but that doesn't mean that they co-exist within the same universe.

 

You've got to remember that the same people who decide whether or not GTA III and GTA IV are in the same canonical universe, are not the same people who design the maps and write the newspaper articles. They probably included them as a little easter egg for those of who've been with the franchise long enough to understand then.

 

Though, that's my theory, like you said there's been no official word yet. We'll just have to wait and see.

[Sergi]

 

I still like to think that those characters mention on the internet, radio and newspapers are all references to the previous games; rather than hints towards their returns. Just like "Wang Cars" in San Andreas. There was a similar dealership in Grand Theft Auto 1, but that doesn't mean that they co-exist within the same universe.

 

You've got to remember that the same people who decide whether or not GTA III and GTA IV are in the same canonical universe, are not the same people who design the maps and write the newspaper articles. They probably included them as a little easter egg for those of who've been with the franchise long enough to understand then.

 

Though, that's my theory, like you said there's been no official word yet. We'll just have to wait and see.

But as I said concerning this argument before Easter Eggs are not just meant no be nods to the past but are also things that connect the overall universe. If they were just random Easter Eggs they wouldn't be in such important places such as the internet with the Are 53 website that shows that the show existed as well as the host and the events he talked about such as going underground for Y2K which he did and the site has been inactive since 1999.

 

Easter Eggs are found in all media types from movies to cartoons to books. I've given examples before on the matter such as with the Aliens universe with Waylin Yutani Corporation. It plays a major part in the entire universe but it's used as Easter Eggs in movies such as AvP and AvP 2 such as mentions of Yutani Corp but no visible representation.

[Omnia sunt Communia]

I think you're taking easter eggs a little too seriously. They are there for those of us who catch them so we can go: "Oh yeah!" Then share our discoveries with our friends. They're not some sort of secret code that defines the GTA universe as we know it.

[Flesh-n-Bone]

It's a shame that you don't already. Though they should be going down in price now that Nintendo have released the DSi. If you manage to find another game, or few, that you would buy along with it; then I'd defiantly recommend getting one.

 

The gameplay is very reminiscent of GTA 2, if you've ever played that. Very old school with some old school game play features like you said. Defiantly my favourite GTA to date.

Maybe buying a DS with the excuse to make my little brother play, then buying CW for it and enjoying it myself too.

 

I have played GTA2 before but for a very short amount of time, couldn't understand a thing from the 2D view.

[Sergi]

I think you're taking easter eggs a little too seriously. They are there for those of us who catch them so we can go: "Oh yeah!" Then share our discoveries with our friends. They're not some sort of secret code that defines the GTA universe as we know it.

I think you're getting Easter Eggs confused. Easter Eggs have never been soley just for people to find them and say hey look nod at the past. Easter Eggs come in different forms and one form is ways that show they connect to an overall universe. As I said there is more that shows they are all connected then evidence that says they aren't not to mention R* has never said anything of the sort as them big not connected.

[Omnia sunt Communia]

Maybe buying a DS with the excuse to make my little brother play, then buying CW for it and enjoying it myself too.

 

I have played GTA2 before but for a very short amount of time, couldn't understand a thing from the 2D view.

Seems like a good idea. The DS has a whole host of child-friendly games. Then, when he's gone to bed, you can turn it into your little playground of destruction.

 

I know that when I bought mine, it was around £100 (roughly $150-200), and that was at the height of it's popularity. The DS Lite model would have gone down in price now that the DSi has come out. You should be able to pick one up for around $50-80 if you're lucky.

 

 

I think you're getting Easter Eggs confused. Easter Eggs have never been soley just for people to find them and say hey look nod at the past. Easter Eggs come in different forms and one form is ways that show they connect to an overall universe. As I said there is more that shows they are all connected then evidence that says they aren't not to mention R* has never said anything of the sort as them big not connected.

 

I don't know. A big sign that reads "You're Not Supposed To Be Able To Get Up Here" doesn't strike me as something big and philosophical like you're making it out to be. They are simply little things installed by the game developers for people to find. It makes the game more interesting.

[XZGamer71]

I'm a big fan of the GTA IV Era, however i must admit after the missions there is not much to do, bowling, taking friends out, TV, whatever... Sure it could be fun but, it's just i could spend hours on GTA Vice City and still enjoy it, GTA IV i would get a lil bored. Anyways i would llooovee one last GTA 3 Canon game, i would like to see what happens to the Characters of 3, Is is Maria still alive (Lol)? How long does Tommy stay in power, WHAT HAPPENS TO LOVE ? Who leads the Leones now? I left the 3 Era with a lot of questions that would be great to be answered... Come on R*

 

Xz

[Sergi]

Maybe buying a DS with the excuse to make my little brother play, then buying CW for it and enjoying it myself too.

 

I have played GTA2 before but for a very short amount of time, couldn't understand a thing from the 2D view.

Seems like a good idea. The DS has a whole host of child-friendly games. Then, when he's gone to bed, you can turn it into your little playground of destruction.

 

I know that when I bought mine, it was around £100 (roughly $150-200), and that was at the height of it's popularity. The DS Lite model would have gone down in price now that the DSi has come out. You should be able to pick one up for around $50-80 if you're lucky.

 

 

I think you're getting Easter Eggs confused. Easter Eggs have never been soley just for people to find them and say hey look nod at the past. Easter Eggs come in different forms and one form is ways that show they connect to an overall universe. As I said there is more that shows they are all connected then evidence that says they aren't not to mention R* has never said anything of the sort as them big not connected.

 

I don't know. A big sign that reads "You're Not Supposed To Be Able To Get Up Here" doesn't strike me as something big and philosophical like you're making it out to be. They are simply little things installed by the game developers for people to find. It makes the game more interesting.

As I said you and others who think they aren't connect have for some unknown reason the beleif that Easter Eggs are strictly throwback at past games when they aren't. I've given an example of an Easter Egg in another media. There is more then one type of Easter Egg and you're trying to generalize all Easter Eggs in that unconnected type of way when that's not the truth.

[nerner]

Well they made a follow up to every last gen game except San Andreas, so i would be happy if they released that as a nice round off to the series. But as someone said earlier, the fact that they ended the III canon when they did leaves more scope for the next game in the IV canon.

[Royal55]

I cannot tell you whether or not these GTA games past and present are related but the fact of the matter is that the story-lines ended a bit abrupt. I would like to see one final BANG intertwining all three protagonists whether it be Liberty City, Vice City, San Andreas or another city that could give us some new area to explore. It just doesn't seem right the way Rockstar did that to us, especially with such an interesting story-line such as that of the III trilogy. I'll be very disappointed if Rockstar decides to go down the same path as they did before.

 

The realistic-ness is cool and all but just doesn't cut it for me personally. What happened to the whacked out humor we're used to, with that anything is possible world? That's kind of my point and I'm not saying I hate GTAIV or anything (It's going down as an all time favorite) but I'd prefer an old new look and feel to the game. I guess you can say it's like a love, hate relationship.

[Omnia sunt Communia]

I understand where you're coming from. Though I don't think there is that much left to explain. There isn't really an overriding story that runs through all the games. There are a few characters who pop there head up here and there during the course of the games, but other than that, there isn't much that links the stories.

 

The only major questions left to answer are found at the end of Grand Theft Auto III: Did Maria survive or did Claude shoot her? Where did Donald Love go? Who is running The Leone Family Mafia?

 

Apart from the latter one, I don't think those questions where ever meant to be answered. They're here to create speculation and rumour. That's part of the fun of following a video game franchise like we do. If Rockstar were to come out of the woodwork and explain what happened to each of the characters then that would be it; we wouldn't talk about them ever again.

[XZGamer71]

I understand where you're coming from. Though I don't think there is that much left to explain. There isn't really an overriding story that runs through all the games. There are a few characters who pop there head up here and there during the course of the games, but other than that, there isn't much that links the stories.

 

The only major questions left to answer are found at the end of Grand Theft Auto III: Did Maria survive or did Claude shoot her? Where did Donald Love go? Who is running The Leone Family Mafia?

 

Apart from the latter one, I don't think those questions where ever meant to be answered. They're here to create speculation and rumour. That's part of the fun of following a video game franchise like we do. If Rockstar were to come out of the woodwork and explain what happened to each of the characters then that would be it; we wouldn't talk about them ever again.

Jacky Fiend! You think you can get away with copying most of my post!!! Only joking mate, but it was similar, Oops better stay on topic... Er.... It would make a great addition to the GTA Series.... RUN!!!

[Flesh-n-Bone]

The only major questions left to answer are found at the end of Grand Theft Auto III: Did Maria survive or did Claude shoot her? Where did Donald Love go? Who is running The Leone Family Mafia?

I would rather have the questions answered plus there are more than just that.

 

Did Vic Vance die in the intro of Vice City or was it someone else?

How long did Tommy and CJ run their respective cities?

and more that I can't think of.

[nerner]

The only major questions left to answer are found at the end of Grand Theft Auto III: Did Maria survive or did Claude shoot her? Where did Donald Love go? Who is running The Leone Family Mafia?

I would rather have the questions answered plus there are more than just that.

 

Did Vic Vance die in the intro of Vice City or was it someone else?

How long did Tommy and CJ run their respective cities?

and more that I can't think of.

Do Leatherface etc. exist?

 

How is Candy Suxx able to walk around without falling over?

[EL BENSON]

I personally hate the new step GTA is taking. IV gets boring with the lack of replay value, the previous GTA's were fun at every way to play even after the missions were finished.

 

You should play Chinatown Wars. It's a real "return to form" for Grand Theft Auto. They reintroduced a lot of the side-missions they left out of IV as well as the humour that we all love so dear. I'd really recommend it if you don't like Grand Theft Auto IV's new direction.

Thanks for the heads up, the distinct lack of the R* humor in GTA4 was the biggest disappointment.

[Algonquin Assassin]

The old games were/are great, but I would rather R* concerntrate on the successing GTA to IV instead of going back to the "glory days".

 

I personally like the direction IV has taken GTA. Some people may not like it, but unfortunately it's R* that'll decide what they want to do with the GTA series.

[Royal55]

Yes, if you really take a moment to think about it, there are a lot more questions that should be answered.

I think that the point of a final game to end all for III is necessary because like you said there wasn't much (story-line wise) that popped up, some characters here and there but nonetheless should have went deeper.

I would have loved to have seen a deeper connection between the three protagonists. San Andreas did that to some extent with the addition to Sunday Drive, which IMO still left me hanging.

I can see how you like the fact that some questions remained unanswered for the sake of a guessing game but to be honest I'd rather know what happened to them instead of just guessing for the rest of my GTA playing days.

Again like I said this is mere wishing, we'll most likely never know anymore about Claude, Tommy, CJ, Tony, Vic, ECT... unless of course they do make a new game for XBLM/PSN or PSP/DS/WII or they could have future GTAIV characters hint at past ones. "Hey, I just met up with a guy who can hook us up with the stuff, I think he said his name was Tommy Verchetti or Verletti or something.." things like that would make me happy to know that they are still alive and kickin'.