Psymn321 Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 (edited) LOL, "learn to spell", the default position of someone whos argument cannot stand on its own merit. If you hadnt had the opportunity to cheat the f*ck outa this game, then you wouldnt be missing the opportunity to do so now. If people who used cheats/trainers, did just open rooms with fellow cheats, this thread wouldnt exist. Its because cheats have no self control that R* has taken initial steps to f*ck you over. As a clan member of {mEr} who ran numerous GTA:SA servers for both main MP mods for that game and VC, i would like to refute anyones suggestion that the current online cheating on GTA4 is in any way comparable to the work done to create those great mods. The only comparison you can make is that you do the same in GTA 4, as the cheaters on SA:MP who glitched their asses off with cheated configuration files that more or less ruined the experience of many gamers back then also. SAMP was a mod, but glitching/unbalancing configurations are cheats, now, then and always. srsly, move along and find a game that accommodates your ADD. Edited March 25, 2009 by Psymn321 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannythyuhh Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Your playing in Free mode: If you drive arround searching for a specific car and finely got it after 15 minutes and your trying to drive in your car and some other idiot WITHOUT cheats or mods kills you. And you must search again for your favorite car?? Nope, i pass. I prefer got an trainer that can spawn cars so i dont need to look for my car. That is much faster and because its faster i will enjoy the game much more.... And then god mode? About the idiot above: He won't kill me so i can enjoy my game even much more!!! I don't abuse trainers, but use trainers. Not only for me but for other guys too. Your argument is unsound. If you want to roam freely in Free Mode without someone damaging your car, then perhaps you do it in private match so that you can do it with players you know will not damage it. Don't justify the unjustifiable by stating your silly reason of why you use the god mode. Ok then i dont drive with my dudes in free mode but in a privat match right??? Isn't that blocked for cheats too??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bananajuice Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Youre just talking sh*t, theres more game modes in this than any other game of this type i can think of... And by you reasoning, aimbot is just a mod in CSS?, wallhack is just a mod in BF? so f*cking retarded words cant express May i suggest that you are not bored of the game, your just a boring f*cker who gets a kick outa spoiling others experience. Move alone lol move along, asshole. If I and ten of my friends wanted to apply the god mod and equip the f*cking rocket launchers that fire 1000000 rounds per second and raise hell on a CLOSED (do you understand, moron!?!!) CLOSED server how are we cheating? If there's nobody but us there? Dumbass? Learn to read and spell. because its not that simple, do u think that all cheater/modders are doing this, no. They are joining ranked/unranked server and ruining evryones game. There is no way any modded game should be online. It just opens the gate for abuse and takes all fun of compititive gaming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkey82 Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 If you hadnt had the opportunity to cheat the f*ck outa this game, then you wouldnt be missing the opportunity to do so now. I don't even play on-line, you moron. And I'm not advocating cheating, I'm only trying to explain to some utterly dumb f*cks that cheating is not the same as modding. Can you get that through your thick skull? bananajuice, if you stop modding this instance, it would be very soon people came along with various mem hacks and trainers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDawg Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Like my brother EyE said; MS & R* need to allow older versions of the game to connect to the internet and then when we want to use mods online we can use an older version and when we want clean games we can update. It's pretty easy to make a homemade patch to switch between versions. That's nothing new to veteran gamers. Many other games allow older versions to connect online, only games using GFWL forces updates. Games using GameSpy do not force updates in order to play online and GameSpy & Steam are really the gaming standards. MS thinks they have a better method, but any new method that restricts gamers won't be favored by gamers as a whole. I think if you asked most intelligent and informed PC gamers they would agree that MS's involvement with games is a joke. MS is really at fault here and they could fix it in a heartbeat by allowing earlier versions of the game online. That would at least make everyone happy until they make a patch with a proper anti-cheat system and pure/un-pure servers, if they ever do. And to all you ignorant twats calling everyone using mods cheaters; keep bumping this thread for us, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tantalus91 Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 The people we meet online are not modders, they are cheaters. The difference is they use them in places and ways that are unexceptionable. And with the huge amount of abuse they do it with it then shifts over to "hacker" because they have the complete intent of maliciously destroying the game for all other players. Modders = The upright user of mods with no intent of abuse. Cheater = A little power hungry jerk that abuses mods but not super bad. Like god mode and car god all the time. Hacker = Jackass' with the pure intent of crashing games, and ruining everything for all other players. This isnt the real definitions but its the definition of the slang way we are using them in multiplayer and the forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subversion1337 Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 (edited) I don't even play on-line, you moron. So stop trying to influence online play >.< Tard. Edited March 25, 2009 by Subversion1337 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExistHaunebu Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 I don't even play on-line, you moron. So stop trying to influence online play >.< Tard. This is not influencing. He is trying to make some arguments to people, where it already makes no sense. But he is trying. You don´t. You are only hating. Read the Topic, this is no kommunism, this is democracy. Stop trying to prohibe people to take a stance. Perhaps u understand that, when u are a little bit older. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subversion1337 Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 (edited) I don't even play on-line, you moron. So stop trying to influence online play >.< Tard. This is not influencing. He is trying to make some arguments to people, where it already makes no sense. But he is trying. You don´t. You are only hating. Read the Topic, this is no kommunism, this is democracy. Stop trying to prohibe people to take a stance. Perhaps u understand that, when u are a little bit older. Perhaps I will understand you when you learn to write a little bit better. Edited March 25, 2009 by Subversion1337 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDawg Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Perhaps I will understand you when you learn to write a little bit better... Perhaps you ought to go do some more work on your website and clan there in your sig.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan evil Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 if we dont get to mod now we wil do it later when R*drops the suport for this game and that wont be long because its a boring game whitout mods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psymn321 Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 I don't even play on-line, you moron. And I'm not advocating cheating, I'm only trying to explain to some utterly dumb f*cks that cheating is not the same as modding. Can you get that through your thick skull? Youre the thick f*ck because if you dont play online then you will see my definition of cheater, in no way applies to you. And if you wernt such a turd brain, you would be as inhospitable to the online cheaters as i am, since it is them that have caused R* to reign in the options for user manipulation of configuration files, you spastic dog breathed cockfaced pigf*cker. that is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subversion1337 Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Perhaps I will understand you when you learn to write a little bit better... Perhaps you ought to go do some more work on your website and clan there in your sig.... [offtopic]Really? Why? Any criticism most welcome.[/offtopic] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExistHaunebu Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Perhaps I will understand you when you learn to write a little bit better. sorry for being german, genius!!! Now go on hating!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subversion1337 Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 (edited) Perhaps I will understand you when you learn to write a little bit better. sorry for being german, genius!!! Now go on hating!! No need to apologise for that. In my experience German people usually have great English skills. They are also in my experience usually smart and efficient. Usually... I don't hate. But mods don't belong online. And people who don't even play online have no buisness commenting on whether modding should be allowed online. And people who insult others should expect others to do the same to them. And people who can't speak English well enough to be understood have no buisness telling others who do to improve their comprehension skills on an English speaking forum. Edited March 25, 2009 by Subversion1337 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDawg Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Perhaps I will understand you when you learn to write a little bit better... Perhaps you ought to go do some more work on your website and clan there in your sig.... [offtopic]Really? Why? Any criticism most welcome.[/offtopic] Well dude, you're in here going way off topic; tossing around insults and critiquing not only people's thoughts, but their writing skills and if I wanted to I could very easily go off topic and slam your site. But, I'd hope that you're willing to meet in the middle and agree that there should be online modes excluding mods AND modes for mods. That's really what this thread/topic is about and what everyone supporting this topic wants. We don't want cheaters using mods to ruin the game or your fun, but we do want the ability to run mods online if we want, that is all. So please stop with the bullsh*t. As for your site; there's really nothing too bad about it, maybe a little sparse, but I'm sure it's a work in progress so nice job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subversion1337 Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 (edited) [offtopic] if I wanted to I could very easily go off topic and slam your site. Please do. I would welcome any contructive criticism.[/offtopic] Or are you just going to keep talking sh*t? But, I'd hope that you're willing to meet in the middle and agree that there should be online modes excluding mods AND modes for mods. Nope. Online modders are breaking the EULA and should have their serials banned permanently. If you believe otherwise you are retarded. [offtopic] As for your site; there's really nothing too bad about it, maybe a little sparse, but I'm sure it's a work in progress so nice job. Is that what you call slamming a site? Hmmh OK. What do you mean by sparse exactly? What do you think I should add that would improve it? And yes it is a work in progress but I'm all out of motivation to improve it atm tbh. (Although maybe some constructive criticism could provide motivation.)[/offtopic] Edited March 25, 2009 by Subversion1337 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDawg Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Woah... The EULA... pffft, referencing that flawed crap is worthless. **Yawn!** I'm done here, too many unreasonable and ignorant gamers; discussions here are like trying to educate a legion of sheep. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExistHaunebu Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 (edited) I'm done here, too many unreasonable and ignorant gamers; discussions here are like trying to educate a legion of sheep. THX!!!! You´re absolutely right. That´s fact. Edited March 25, 2009 by ExistHaunebu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_speel_good Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Hey guys guess what. Mods online actually help in the creation of machinima. That's one more reason we need an option for modded games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subversion1337 Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Hey guys guess what. Mods online actually help in the creation of machinima. That's one more reason we need an option for modded games. By machinima I think you mean making videos and such? What you should be campainging for is a video maker mode or improved options for movie makers. Not for something that will break R*s EULA, because then you are wasting your time. --- Seriously, the constructive discussion in this thread ended on the first page... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExistHaunebu Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Seriously, the constructive discussion in this thread ended on the first page... Eeeeeeeehhhhh?????? Says the right one. You are amazing, Dude!!!! Ok, that was the last (bad-english-skilled) Message from me to u. You make me speakless. Even in german. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nietzsche's God Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Your playing in Free mode: If you drive arround searching for a specific car and finely got it after 15 minutes and your trying to drive in your car and some other idiot WITHOUT cheats or mods kills you. And you must search again for your favorite car?? Nope, i pass. I prefer got an trainer that can spawn cars so i dont need to look for my car. That is much faster and because its faster i will enjoy the game much more.... And then god mode? About the idiot above: He won't kill me so i can enjoy my game even much more!!! I don't abuse trainers, but use trainers. Not only for me but for other guys too. Your argument is unsound. If you want to roam freely in Free Mode without someone damaging your car, then perhaps you do it in private match so that you can do it with players you know will not damage it. Don't justify the unjustifiable by stating your silly reason of why you use the god mode. If you don't want cheaters, then perhaps you should host your own private match so that you can play without mods with your friends. Don't make silly reasons of why I should NOT use god mode. Nice converse But do you really understand your own statement? You know you are defending people who cheat and interrupt people's rights to play the game in multiplayer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neon25 Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Your playing in Free mode: If you drive arround searching for a specific car and finely got it after 15 minutes and your trying to drive in your car and some other idiot WITHOUT cheats or mods kills you. And you must search again for your favorite car?? Nope, i pass. I prefer got an trainer that can spawn cars so i dont need to look for my car. That is much faster and because its faster i will enjoy the game much more.... And then god mode? About the idiot above: He won't kill me so i can enjoy my game even much more!!! I don't abuse trainers, but use trainers. Not only for me but for other guys too. Your argument is unsound. If you want to roam freely in Free Mode without someone damaging your car, then perhaps you do it in private match so that you can do it with players you know will not damage it. Don't justify the unjustifiable by stating your silly reason of why you use the god mode. If you don't want cheaters, then perhaps you should host your own private match so that you can play without mods with your friends. Don't make silly reasons of why I should NOT use god mode. Nice converse But do you really understand your own statement? You know you are defending people who cheat and interrupt people's rights to play the game in multiplayer? I can't see how using god mode on FREE MODE server is interrupting people's rights to play. FFS, if you want to kill people play f*ckin' deathmatch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nietzsche's God Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 I can't see how using god mode on FREE MODE server is interrupting people's rights to play. FFS, if you want to kill people play f*ckin' deathmatch. I am not going to buy into this proposition about "middle ground" compromise by enabling players to use their modified files only in the Free Mode. Maybe this title is attractive to you because it says "Free Mode", but it doesn't mean "modified contents enabled." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmateinc Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 sa-mp was made by hackers, and you still get banned for cheating on sa-mp, you couldn;t go into someones server and jsut start spawning cars and using god mod cuase you would get banned, so its hard to see why your mad cuase r* dosen't want you raping there game with your mods. wait for the hackers to make IV mutli then hack away, on a server you created cuase im sure you'll still get banned for "modding" aka cheating, even on the unoffical IV mutli. If you came on to my sa-mp server spawning cars and using god mod and weps hax i would ban you, as would 95 percent of the servers that get any activity in sa-mp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neon25 Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 (edited) I can't see how using god mode on FREE MODE server is interrupting people's rights to play. FFS, if you want to kill people play f*ckin' deathmatch. I am not going to buy into this proposition about "middle ground" compromise by enabling players to use their modified files only in the Free Mode. Maybe this title is attractive to you because it says "Free Mode", but it doesn't mean "modified contents enabled." Free mode doesn't mean "deathmatch" either. If we had dedicated servers this problem would never exist, but since R* really likes sucking M$'s cock, we have what we have. Edited March 25, 2009 by Neon25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subversion1337 Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Free mode doesn't mean "deathmatch" either. It does actually. It means DM + stunt + race + film + fly + shoot cops + hang around with friends + steal cars + chat... it means do whatever you want WITHIN R*'s GTA IV game engine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmateinc Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 once again this would exsist, cuase even on dedicated servers peps will ban you for using your "mods".. there's no real argument here just abunch of nabs mad cuase they can't use cheats (they didn't even create). keep it in SP and stfu pls... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neon25 Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 once again this would exsist, cuase even on dedicated servers peps will ban you for using your "mods".. there's no real argument here just abunch of nabs mad cuase they can't use cheats (they didn't even create). keep it in SP and stfu pls... Except for the fact that you could make pure/unpure server mode, and people with different files from you would just get kicked automatically, instead of a lame message "you can't play multi because you changed your graphic files to make our ugly vaseline-like blur disappear". Besides, with dedicated servers you have the OPTION to kick or ban the person or not, while in GTA IV you're simply NOT ALLOWED to enter any server. What a sh*tload of f*ck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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