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Money Over Bullshit

Could This be Leila Sharpe?

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Money Over Bullshit

I know this is likely just a random girl in leather but could it infact be Leila Sharpe?

 

Leila?

 

Thoughts please

Edited by Money Over Bullshit

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JOSEPH X

Miss Sharpe gets one mention in TLAD. Ashley says to JK "you still seeing Leila?". He says Nah. This is my take on WTF happened to Leila and Jim.

The plot for TLAD was set up in IV, both in-game and via the LCPD database. The word "deceased" appears next to the persons name on the database at points in IV when they are killed in TLAD and vice-versa. Are you with me so far? The word "deceased" appears next to Leila Sharpes name immediately after you kill the second biker in "No Way On The Subway". I checked this out by 1. going to the [email protected] in North Holland on my way from Drusilla`s to the meeting with the bikers, one of which was Fitz. Leila was still alive, and 2. going directly to the [email protected] in Broker after NWOTS. She`s "deceased".

When TLAD comes out everyones surprised to see Jim gets another scene after Johnny gives him the money in North Holland and Leila doesn`t appear in TLAD.

So I`m thinking this: Originally, the torture scene Jim was in was meant to be Leila and that`s where she died. This mission would have played at the same time as IV`s "NWOTS", but the peeps at R* had second thoughts about torturing and killing a woman. So they cut Leila out of the story completely and gave Jim an extra scene. The Jim in NWOTS dont make it to Broker, the $2m would have been lost in the subway.

 

Whether it is or isn`t, doesn`t really matter now

Edited by II J0SePh X II

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Money Over Bullshit

Useful info bro but it doesn't answer my question at all dontgetit.gif

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i like coffee enemas

To be honest I think Rockstar totally tore their original story apart. TLAD on a whole had been ripped apart. That thread about missing content kinda proves this. I mean, there are so many gaps and "hmm" situations in JKs story. The purpose of Johnny's story was to fill in the gaps in Niko's story, not add more gaps. If you ask me... R* got a bit sloppy with this one. Don't get me wrong though, I love IV & TLAD. I just think R* have been a bit sloppy with the whole GTA IV franchise so far.

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Pumpkin Zone

Or maybe they'll fill the holes of the holes of the holes in Luis' story.

 

Right?

 

.. Right?

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Dingdongs
Or maybe they'll fill the holes of the holes of the holes in Luis' story.

 

Right?

 

.. Right?

What he said

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JOSEPH X
Or maybe they'll fill the holes of the holes of the holes in Luis' story.

 

Right?

 

.. Right?

Who knows, that could happen.

 

But your totally right leelee, I thought they`d built TLAD up pretty nicely on the LCPD database and was expecting something along the lines of "Revenge/Deal" that they did so well in Niko`s story. And I honestly don`t think they built up Billy as someone who you should be an enemy with. Mind you, we are talking about micro-SOFT here, so we can`t blame R* 100% for losing it`s grip. I wouldn`t be surprised if DLC2 is called "Shiny, Happy People"

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Money Over Bullshit

From a question about a girl in a picture to an attack on rockstars work ethic and microsofts integrity....

Where did it all go wrong? sigh.gif

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Graven

I don´t know if she is Sharpe but her chin is.

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Nightwing 0613
I know this is likely just a random girl in leather but could it infact be Leila Sharpe?

 

Leila?

 

Thoughts please

Actually that chick is one of the dancers in the Clubhouse. She can be seen hanging around there every so often.

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Money Over Bullshit
I know this is likely just a random girl in leather but could it infact be Leila Sharpe?

 

Leila?

 

Thoughts please

Actually that chick is one of the dancers in the Clubhouse. She can be seen hanging around there every so often.

Is that actually stated though?

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Nightwing 0613

Stated by R*? no, but i have seen her with my own 2 eyes & everything matches. She's dressed exactly the same as that picture & looks exactly the same way down to the last detail with the exception of the pisswaser in her hand. She has a cigarette instead.

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Money Over Bullshit

Are you talking about the girl that dances around the pole in the cage or who?

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Nightwing 0613
Are you talking about the girl that dances around the pole in the cage or who?

She can be seen both dancing in the cage & chilling by the bar smoking when she's taking a break.

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Money Over Bullshit
Are you talking about the girl that dances around the pole in the cage or who?

She can be seen both dancing in the cage & chilling by the bar smoking when she's taking a break.

I gotta check this out

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(Yakuza)

the only differences is shes wearing black nail polish and has black lipstick.

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Money Over Bullshit

Yeah they do look pretty damn similar. The also a girl in the opening cutscene for "Angels in America" that tries to hug Johnny and he pushed her away... Its never explained who she is though.

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(Yakuza)

some hoe from the lost.

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Magic_Al

I doubt Microsoft had any creative control whatsoever, they'd know to let Rockstar do its thing. If any story got cut, it probably happened when Rockstar realized TLAD would be delayed and the delay was to sacrifice what couldn't be finished and try to tie what was left together. For example, the cutscene before you go to get Billy's bike plays like you're going without him, then when the mission starts he's on the back of your bike and says he's coming along. They didn't have time to "reshoot" the cutscene but they made those couple changes to the mission to get around it.

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Money Over Bullshit

Yeah I'd say it was a time issue too. Thats why some things are a bit unexplained.

 

I do have a possible explaination for Jim not looking like Jim in NWOTS Though. Maybe he sold out his brothers to escape a lenghty jail sentence and went into Witness Protection cause he knew people would want 2 kill him. Then he faked his death by getting some random biker to pose as him so people would think that he was killed by Niko and Ray would stop lookin for him.

 

Then maybe he took Leila with him which would explain her deceased status on the LCPD Database. And he's screwin her in Vice City as we speak cool.gif

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blackindia

Im really disturbed by what really happened. what the hell happened and who killed who? I think its strange that we see Jim in that alley, then at Rays. Then in the alley again before NWOTS? (but as Niko)

 

I guess after getting the money from Johnny maybe he hide it there til later. Maybe just left it with the other biker to watch over it and then went to get something but instead got captured by Rays goons. After escaping he went back to the alley again. I do belive Niko kills him but R* just changed him alittle (or alot). Just like they changed Johnnys clothes or the safehouse (added a door and parkingspace etc)

 

And for Leila. Johnnys says he not seeing her anymore. So I guess its not that strange why we dont see her in person ingame. However its not strange if Ray, who sent alot of goons after Johnny also sent some too pay Leila a visit. Either to just seak for Johnnys whereabout or just to kill her as a revenge against Johnny.

 

I hope we get to know more in DL2.

 

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ChrisAndy
Yeah I'd say it was a time issue too. Thats why some things are a bit unexplained.

 

I do have a possible explaination for Jim not looking like Jim in NWOTS Though. Maybe he sold out his brothers to escape a lenghty jail sentence and went into Witness Protection cause he knew people would want 2 kill him. Then he faked his death by getting some random biker to pose as him so people would think that he was killed by Niko and Ray would stop lookin for him.

 

Then maybe he took Leila with him which would explain her deceased status on the LCPD Database. And he's screwin her in Vice City as we speak cool.gif

I don't think that explanation really flies, I think R* just got REALLY sloppy and decided last minute to put it in. It definitely is annoying, though.

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Krougenox

If that artwork is really Leila, then Johnny must have hit that plenty of times. GO JOHNNY!

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The 7th Number

Is Leila even that important in TLAD? I dont even remember her, or anyone talking about her in the game. If she is just one of Johnny's past GFs then no big deal. There really is no reason for Rockstar to give us the full 100% details of what happened between them. If Ashley asks Johnny if he is still seeing her, it just shows that Ashley likes Johnny and wants to be with him. Personally from the photo, it does look like one of the two women who randomly dances on the poll at the clubhouse, or chills by the bar.

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serbian warrior

Leila isn't a stripper. At least, not according to her LCPD record.

But, I guess she could be called the TLAD variant of miss Lola Del Rio.

Probably... Shifty41s_beerhatsmilie2.gif

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blowdro420

what i don't get is the police database says leila is a meth addict. but we all know on the game its ashley butler who is the meth addict. what i also don't get is why it says on the police database (niko's story) is that she is billy's girl (ashley). i was thinking that R* might have had switched the two of them around. but who knows?

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The 7th Number

 

what i don't get is the police database says leila is a meth addict. but we all know on the game its ashley butler who is the meth addict. what i also don't get is why it says on the police database (niko's story) is that she is billy's girl (ashley). i was thinking that R* might have had switched the two of them around. but who knows?

 

I dont know. I think she was billys girl and went to Johnny once billy went to prison. Cos in the begining they saying something about what ashley will do since Billy is out, and Johnny says she can do whatever she wants. Billy also says give her a call cos he, and the rest of the gang want some hole. I dont think she was really with one guy exclusively.

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Money Over Bullshit

Upon playing TLAD again I have found evidence that says the Girl in the cutscene for "Angels in America" is Leila Sharpe.

 

In the scene Johnny enters the Clubhouse and the girl walks over to him and says "Johnny hey, how you doin baby" and attempts to hug him then Johnny pushes her away and swings a kick at her prompting one of the brothers (I think its Billy) to say "Ooh stop, Domestic Violence"

 

 

Domestic violence (also known as domestic abuse, spousal abuse, or intimate partner violence) occurs when a family member, partner or ex-partner attempts to physically or psychologically dominate another. Domestic violence often refers to violence between spouses, or spousal abuse but can also include cohabitants and non-married intimate partners.

So this indicates that the woman is indeed Johnny's ex-girlfriend/old lady Leila Sharpe. colgate.gif

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ChrisMathers3501

Huh, you know what, MOB, I never thought of that. I never got a good enough look at her so I always just thought that was Ashley.

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livejoker

You are asking for the most useless information in the game lol.gifmercie_blink.gif . Respect!

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