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GTA IV: the greatest game of all time


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Storyline is not the only thing gamers are looking for there are things also like graphics and gameplay

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I haven't read anything else in this thread apart from the original post.

 

But I agree.

From year 0001 to 2009, Grand Theft Auto IV is (so far) the greatest all-around game of all time.

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COD series and Half Life are great Games specially COD 4 and COD 5 but

 

Don't you know they are FPS and GTA games are Sandbox GAME...

 

So why are you comparing games from other genre to the other ones.

 

compare COD and Half Life with Halo Series..../

Oh what a hypocrite. You don't want others to compare GTA IV with FPS games and yet you proudly announce that GTAIV is the best ever game of all time. confused.gif Have you played the original Doom and Quake? And for that matter HL 2 and CoD 2?

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Look at call of duty 4, a 2008 title. It is visually stunning, yet I can run it at a constant 15-17 fps, no lags.

 

COD 4

 

 

http://www.inselpix.com/img/50125576993.jpeg

 

 

The image has been compressed and saved to meet upload requirements of picture hosting site. The game ofcourse looks much better.

 

 

 

youtube vid of COD 4 on x3100:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjiw0vlDGxc]COD 4 on x3100[/url]

Look at gta iv, a 2008 title. It can barely run at 6-9 fps, falling down to 4-5 at times. If Rockstar could have properly coded gta iv to run appropriately on my card, then it would be the best game ever. If a 2008 game can run on my system without lag, it has been properly coded. COD 4 is properly coded.

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^^^ And yes, COD is a railroad type of game where you'r being led through a tight corridor. This is not really comparable to GTA IV.

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this game is in the same boat as Farcry2 - you either love it or hate it & strangely both games wouldn't run properly on some systems

so they automatically get slammed as crap games

COD4 has dead & lifeless graphics, nothing moves, the water effect is garbage, not a single plant or leaf moves & this was once compared to Crysis,lol

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Storyline is not the only thing gamers are looking for there are things also like graphics and gameplay

i agree with you on the gameplay side but no gamer should ever judge a game by its graphics just because something looks nice doesnt mean it is

If games such as cod4 had ps2 graphics but everything else was the same that shouldnt stop it from being the classic game that it is

it worries me that gaming has come to this because developers put so much time and effort into making sure the graphics are top of

the range they forget to make sure the gameplay is too and the trouble is theres that many people that bitch and moan because theres a bit

clipping going on on there top notch system that developers HAVE to make sure the graphics are good to prevent this.

 

IMO and this is probably gonna get people bitching at me but ive read so many posts on this forum about how console games/gamers

are ruining the industry i actually believe its the other way round and inadvertedly the pc gamers are the ones doing this

(this isnt a dig at pc gamers make sure you read everything before you comment). I believe that because pc gamers are always updating there system

and always buy the top of the range stuff for it that any game that gets released the graphics are already outdated on the pc gamers machine

and then what do they do when they see this, come on forums and complain about it which puts pressure on developers because they dont want

the gaming community moaning about there game so they do everything they can to make sure the graphics are sublime which is going to affect the

gameplay because they can't put at much time into that, and then what do they do when they get a game that actually strains there machines, come on

forums and moan about how crap the game actually is

 

and the prime example of this is crysis, visually stunning ive never seen anything like it but the gameplay,utter pants its a very

very average game at best and thats being generous (although this is my oppinion i know im

not the only one that thinks this though)

oh and btw disagree with me all you want but you must have seen it by now never once was there a 'this game looks crap on my 1080p tv (although GTAIV360

doesnt actually play at 1080P no matter what the box says, in fact theres only about 3 games out on the 360 that actually do play in 1080p) when it was a console

exclusive unless it was by the pc community

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Storyline is not the only thing gamers are looking for there are things also like graphics and gameplay

i agree with you on the gameplay side but no gamer should ever judge a game by its graphics just because something looks nice doesnt mean it is

If games such as cod4 had ps2 graphics but everything else was the same that shouldnt stop it from being the classic game that it is

it worries me that gaming has come to this because developers put so much time and effort into making sure the graphics are top of

the range they forget to make sure the gameplay is too and the trouble is theres that many people that bitch and moan because theres a bit

clipping going on on there top notch system that developers HAVE to make sure the graphics are good to prevent this.

 

IMO and this is probably gonna get people bitching at me but ive read so many posts on this forum about how console games/gamers

are ruining the industry i actually believe its the other way round and inadvertedly the pc gamers are the ones doing this

(this isnt a dig at pc gamers make sure you read everything before you comment). I believe that because pc gamers are always updating there system

and always buy the top of the range stuff for it that any game that gets released the graphics are already outdated on the pc gamers machine

and then what do they do when they see this, come on forums and complain about it which puts pressure on developers because they dont want

the gaming community moaning about there game so they do everything they can to make sure the graphics are sublime which is going to affect the

gameplay because they can't put at much time into that, and then what do they do when they get a game that actually strains there machines, come on

forums and moan about how crap the game actually is

 

and the prime example of this is crysis, visually stunning ive never seen anything like it but the gameplay,utter pants its a very

very average game at best and thats being generous (although this is my oppinion i know im

not the only one that thinks this though)

oh and btw disagree with me all you want but you must have seen it by now never once was there a 'this game looks crap on my 1080p tv (although GTAIV360

doesnt actually play at 1080P no matter what the box says, in fact theres only about 3 games out on the 360 that actually do play in 1080p) when it was a console

exclusive unless it was by the pc community

I absolutely agree!

 

I am an "old school" gamer even going back as far as DOS games.

 

Now those DOS games may not have had the "wow" factor that todays games have as far as graphics, but there are other things such as GAMEPLAY and STORYLINE that make them great!

 

It seems that too many PC gamers only want a game that will test their systems limits. But I want a GAME THAT IS ACTUALLY WORTH PLAYING! Not just a "pretty lookjng game!"

 

This game GTA IV for PC was good in storyline and graphics, but a lot of PC games are not. Though I would HARDLY call this the greatest game of all time....that would be stupid in my opinion.

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Seriously, Fallout 3 is a lot less linear and a lot more customizable, and with a stable PC, can have mesmerizing graphics.

GTA 4 is fun, but no where near the best.

Fallout 3?...

 

I didn't even complete Fallout 3, bored me half way through. It's just another save the world, hack 'n' slash, linear "RPG". Yeah its less linear than many, but that's not saying much.

 

You know what held my greatest single player game of all time title before GTA IV? KOTOR. Now there was a fun RPG.

 

You have got to be trolling. No-one in their right mind would criticise Fallout 3 for being linear, and offer-up KotOR as an alternative! Are you nuts? Both KotOR I and II are about as linear as you can get. I enjoyed both games immensely, but please, lose the rose-tinted glasses.

 

Also, when criticising a game, at least get the genre correct. Fallout 3 - hack 'n' slash? Puhlease.

 

 

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Well, it is my favourite game, but calling anything "greatest" objectively is always problematic territory.

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this game is in the same boat as Farcry2 - you either love it or hate it & strangely both games wouldn't run properly on some systems

so they automatically get slammed as crap games

COD4 has dead & lifeless graphics, nothing moves, the water effect is garbage, not a single plant or leaf moves & this was once compared to Crysis,lol

The plants in GTAIV more? I must be detail blind.

 

They do move while poping up but that's all I spotted.

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this game is in the same boat as Farcry2 - you either love it or hate it & strangely both games wouldn't run properly on some systems

so they automatically get slammed as crap games

COD4 has dead & lifeless graphics, nothing moves, the water effect is garbage, not a single plant or leaf moves & this was once compared to Crysis,lol

The plants in GTAIV more? I must be detail blind.

 

They do move while poping up but that's all I spotted.

The trees sway...

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this game is in the same boat as Farcry2 - you either love it or hate it & strangely both games wouldn't run properly on some systems

so they automatically get slammed as crap games

COD4 has dead & lifeless graphics, nothing moves, the water effect is garbage, not a single plant or leaf moves & this was once compared to Crysis,lol

The plants in GTAIV more? I must be detail blind.

 

They do move while poping up but that's all I spotted.

The trees sway...

Like I said, I'm detail blind.

 

Anyway, in my defense, those trees with jagged edges look very fugly, so I try not to concentrate on them too much.

Also, I like playing during nighttime a lot more as far less of fugliness is visible.

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Seriously, Fallout 3 is a lot less linear and a lot more customizable, and with a stable PC, can have mesmerizing graphics.

GTA 4 is fun, but no where near the best.

Fallout 3?...

 

I didn't even complete Fallout 3, bored me half way through. It's just another save the world, hack 'n' slash, linear "RPG". Yeah its less linear than many, but that's not saying much.

 

You know what held my greatest single player game of all time title before GTA IV? KOTOR. Now there was a fun RPG.

 

You have got to be trolling. No-one in their right mind would criticise Fallout 3 for being linear, and offer-up KotOR as an alternative! Are you nuts? Both KotOR I and II are about as linear as you can get. I enjoyed both games immensely, but please, lose the rose-tinted glasses.

 

Also, when criticising a game, at least get the genre correct. Fallout 3 - hack 'n' slash? Puhlease.

Both kotor are far superior to oblivion with guns...which is far superior to this "greatest game of all time".

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You have got to be trolling. No-one in their right mind would criticise Fallout 3 for being linear, and offer-up KotOR as an alternative! Are you nuts? Both KotOR I and II are about as linear as you can get. I enjoyed both games immensely, but please, lose the rose-tinted glasses.

 

I never said KOTOR wasn't linear. But it was DAMN FUN. Both KOTOR and Fallout 3 were linear, most PC games are. As I said before, imo, games aren't fun beacause of non-linearity necessarily, they just simply are fun. Perhaps the criteria is freedom. KOTOR gave me freedom to become an evil sith lord. GTA IV the fredom to become a criminal for hire, plus sandbox, plus multiplayer. Fallout 3? confused.gif There was no story really, just a sandbox, but the sanbox was all the same, with grey sand sad.gif .

 

 

Also, when criticising a game, at least get the genre correct. Fallout 3 - hack 'n' slash? Puhlease.

 

 

It really is a hack and slash! Oh and you also get to save the world... rolleyes.gif It's like WoW but without the pretty colours. And smaller.

 

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I wouldn't call GTA4 the greatest game of all time. Yes it's great technologically wise but apart from that it's meh. I still haven't completed it and i've had it since release, i just got bored with it.

For me i find the Half-Life series the greatest game of all time.

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I think GTA makes for the best all-around, adult game ever.

 

It doesn't do any one thing perfectly, but it's got awesome bits of almost everything; shooting, driving/racing, action/adventure gameplay, linear freedom to make the game experience what you want it. You get out what you put in, use your imagination, get creative; both during the storyline missions and after when you've got the whole sandbox to play with.

 

And it's so graphic and crude. But it's also current and timely for pop culture with hilarious, spot-on social commentary all tuned to an outstanding soundtrack. The backdrop being a vibrant and recognizable New York that is, as a single city in a game, simply massive just begging to be explored.

 

What better way to relax than to fire up GTA after a sh*tty day at work and go on a shooting rampage in the middle of Times Square?

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