Tantalus91 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 and im getting tired of you skewing facts and putting words into peoples mouths. please quote where i said everyone used daemon and utorrent. yeah theres legitimate reasons for file sharing programs... for f*cking sharing files. they arent called pirating programs for a reason because thats not their main function. and daemon tools is not for backing up anything you 37 year old its for mounting images. images are copies of drives. windows7.beta is an iso. dear lawdy now microsoft must be pirates too huh? yes ban me for speaking my mind. what next gas ovens? Tell us what legitimate files come as images? Your windows 7 beta wasn't downloaded legally? Theres tons of free burning programs such as poweriso that burns images to discs so why do you need to mount them? "To run them illegally or without much hasle". What files do you "share" and download legally with utorrent or limwire? Obviously not pictures of your kids or family because it would be dumb to share them on mass networks. Music? Wait that would be pirating software by even sharing music files on p2p networks. Music videos? Oops, same category. I can go on and on and on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharmingCharlie Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 and im getting tired of you skewing facts and putting words into peoples mouths. please quote where i said everyone used daemon and utorrent. Oh really I would imagine when you said this :- i see nothing to show this guy is lying, the only thing you all bring up is that he uses daemon tools and torrents. who the f*ck doesnt. I was merely showing you that I DON'T use torrents or daemon tools so you are quite clearly WRONG when you said "who the f*ck doesn't". But then you are used to that aren't you. yeah theres legitimate reasons for file sharing programs... for f*cking sharing files. they arent called pirating programs for a reason because thats not their main function. and daemon tools is not for backing up anything you 37 year old its for mounting images. images are copies of drives. windows7.beta is an iso. dear lawdy now microsoft must be pirates too huh? Yes I said it was a file sharer and I said I have no legitimate use for it, whats your f*cking point ? The fact that 99.99999% of the files being shared by people that don't have a right to share them surely doesn't come into the conversation does it. I know what a f*cking cd image mounting program does and I fail to see how going "ha ha MS released windows 7 as an iso" has anything to do with it. The fact is there are very few legitimate purposes to have a torrent app and an image mounting app on your PC, but hey you don't want to hear that do you. yes ban me for speaking my mind. what next gas ovens? I am sorry but I really don't want to waste the gas on some one like you. There is nothing wrong with you speaking your mind but all you do is attack people, insult them, derail topics and generally act like a five year old and like I said I am getting tired of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjaak327 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 and im getting tired of you skewing facts and putting words into peoples mouths. please quote where i said everyone used daemon and utorrent. yeah theres legitimate reasons for file sharing programs... for f*cking sharing files. they arent called pirating programs for a reason because thats not their main function. and daemon tools is not for backing up anything you 37 year old its for mounting images. images are copies of drives. windows7.beta is an iso. dear lawdy now microsoft must be pirates too huh? yes ban me for speaking my mind. what next gas ovens? Tell us what legitimate files come as images? Your windows 7 beta wasn't downloaded legally? Theres tons of free burning programs such as poweriso that burns images to discs so why do you need to mount them? "To run them illegally or without much hasle". What files do you "share" and download legally with utorrent or limwire? Obviously not pictures of your kids or family because it would be dumb to share them on mass networks. Music? Wait that would be pirating software by even sharing music files on p2p networks. Music videos? Oops, same category. I can go on and on and on Well, all ms select downloads nowadays come as images, Not only Operating systems, but also things like SQL sever, now I love daemon tools, as it saves me from having to burn a DVD, instead I simply mount the DVD and run install, and all legitimate. Daemon tools are very handy when you are running vmware workstaton, yes you can do it with those programs as well, but more then a few times, their "in program mounting" leads to problems. Computer technicians the world over use these tools, not only people who pirate software Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tantalus91 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Yeah, im going to college to get a degree in CIT and have found lots of legitimate reasons for image programs, mainly to backup dieing harddrives we convert them to giant 40gb .iso files and keep them on the SSD at my school. So when we need them we can just burn the .iso to a newly formated harddrive or mount the .iso and run in vmware. Very handy. But the way he acts I don't think he has any legit reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emcax24 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 and im getting tired of you skewing facts and putting words into peoples mouths. please quote where i said everyone used daemon and utorrent. yeah theres legitimate reasons for file sharing programs... for f*cking sharing files. they arent called pirating programs for a reason because thats not their main function. and daemon tools is not for backing up anything you 37 year old its for mounting images. images are copies of drives. windows7.beta is an iso. dear lawdy now microsoft must be pirates too huh? yes ban me for speaking my mind. what next gas ovens? Tell us what legitimate files come as images? Your windows 7 beta wasn't downloaded legally? Theres tons of free burning programs such as poweriso that burns images to discs so why do you need to mount them? "To run them illegally or without much hasle". What files do you "share" and download legally with utorrent or limwire? Obviously not pictures of your kids or family because it would be dumb to share them on mass networks. Music? Wait that would be pirating software by even sharing music files on p2p networks. Music videos? Oops, same category. I can go on and on and on Well, all ms select downloads nowadays come as images, Not only Operating systems, but also things like SQL sever, now I love daemon tools, as it saves me from having to burn a DVD, instead I simply mount the DVD and run install, and all legitimate. Daemon tools are very handy when you are running vmware workstaton, yes you can do it with those programs as well, but more then a few times, their "in program mounting" leads to problems. Computer technicians the world over use these tools, not only people who pirate software finally a beacon of light in the darkness. at least everyone on these forums isnt a complete idiot. But the way he acts I don't think he has any legit reasons. wtf does how one acts have to do with what that person does in their personal life? john wayne gacy was a serial murdering clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tantalus91 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 So emcax, do you know a legitimate way to help our OP get his game running without file backups or a dvd drive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emcax24 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 (edited) yeah he can download the original *******crack and use it to run his game. he owns the game so he can use a crack. maybe the lawyers dont agree but im sure the dmca allows backups for personal use. doesnt mention how you come about that backup. Edited March 5, 2009 by CharmingCharlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tantalus91 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 (edited) yeah he can download the original ******* crack and use it to run his game. he owns the game so he can use a crack. maybe the lawyers dont agree but im sure the dmca allows backups for personal use. doesnt mention how you come about that backup. But your not listening I said legit way. The legit way is to get a new dvd drive. Come on we can't talk about or make links to cracks here in order to save the forum owners but from Rockstar that actualy looks around these boards every so often. Edited March 5, 2009 by CharmingCharlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharmingCharlie Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 You just knew he was going to suggest a licence breaking way to get the game working didn't you. Please kindly note that we do not allow the discussion of cracks on this forum emcax24. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tantalus91 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 You just knew he was going to suggest a licence breaking way to get the game working didn't you. Please kindly note that we do not allow the discussion of cracks on this forum emcax24. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emcax24 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 what woulnt be a license breaking way? lol if he went and borrowed his friends dvd it would be a license breaking way. you guys kill me with your fake morality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tantalus91 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 what woulnt be a license breaking way? lol if he went and borrowed his friends dvd it would be a license breaking way. you guys kill me with your fake morality. Getting a new dvd drive wouldn't be a licensed breaking way like people have said 5 times on the this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharmingCharlie Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 what woulnt be a license breaking way? lol if he went and borrowed his friends dvd it would be a license breaking way. you guys kill me with your fake morality. You kill me with your complete inability to stick to the rules, but there you go. There is a perfectly fine way for this guy to fix the problem and that is buy a new DVD drive, however for some "reason" this guy doesn't seem to want to do that hmmmmm. As for accusing those here with "fake morality" I can assure you mine is perfectly legitimate but then I am not the one claiming I use torrents or daemon tools for legitimate reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emcax24 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 whatever you need to help yourself sleep at night buddy. who knows why he doesnt just go get a new dvd drive. could be a million. the fact is he doesnt have one and needs a way to fix his game. im offering solutions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chngdman Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 (edited) whatever you need to help yourself sleep at night buddy. who knows why he doesnt just go get a new dvd drive. could be a million. the fact is he doesnt have one and needs a way to fix his game. im offering solutions. I am totally not surprised it's you. Your little signature is cute, I am flattered that you think of me that often. People are going to listen to that about as much as they listen to your back-woods dribble. You may be allowed to backup your stuff, but apparently you're not allowed to discuss it here. And the responsible thing to tell someone is to pop the original retail disc into their DVD player, and if it doesn't work then they have to deal with it or figure it out elsewhere on their own. And if you have time to play GTA IV, you should easily be able to afford a DVD drive which are only $20. "Too young for a job!" Then you are too young for this game. "Can't afford to drop $20 dollars whenever I want!" Then you need to re-evaluate your life or get some overtime. At the very least, games are certainly not helping you there. Edited March 5, 2009 by chngdman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjaak327 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 You kill me with your complete inability to stick to the rules, but there you go. There is a perfectly fine way for this guy to fix the problem and that is buy a new DVD drive, however for some "reason" this guy doesn't seem to want to do that hmmmmm. As for accusing those here with "fake morality" I can assure you mine is perfectly legitimate but then I am not the one claiming I use torrents or daemon tools for legitimate reasons. Of course the solution to this guys problem indeed is simple, as to claiming using daemon tools or torrent programs, you do know that torrents does not equal piracy ? There are for instance plenty of linux distributions that are available as torrents, it's an obvious way for hosting sites to ease the burden on their webservers. The legitimate usage of daemon tools, Alocohol, virtual clone drive or other similar programs has already been discussed, neither two category of programs indicate a pirate imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharmingCharlie Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 (edited) Yeah in "Your honest opinion" unfortunately whilst these two programs do have "legitimate" uses it is highly more likely that the TC is using them to steal software. The fact that he has invented this "oh my dvd drive died" excuse makes things look even more suspicious. If the DVD drive broke on my PC I wouldn't be coming to a forum and asking for work arounds I would pop down to the shops or order a new dvd drive online. A DVD ROM is incredibly cheap these days, less than 20 bucks yet for some reason this guy doesn't seem to be in too much of a hurry to do that. I wonder why eh ? I am so sick and tired of people trying to muddy the waters on this site with crap like "oh it isn't stealing it's piracy" or "modding on line isn't cheating" or "oh torrents are perfectly legal and have legal uses" YES WE KNOW however the vast f*cking majority of torrent users are sure as hell not using torrents legitimately. Just like the vast majority of people that use daemon tools are not using that legitimately either. This guy's desktop makes him look like a pirate, his various excuses make him sound like a pirate and the fact he won't do something perfectly legitimate like buy a new dvd drive (which most reasonably sane people would do) makes it even more iffy. But I am coming to the conclusion that reason doesn't seem to work on this site since you will find a technicality. Edited March 5, 2009 by CharmingCharlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTFX Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 but since he isn't really breaking the rules, we could just let this topic die.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john88z Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Personally I like proof. A picture next to user name. Then I will gladly help him until then I dont think anyone should help him. When patch 2 came out we saw just how many people did not buy the game and we continue to see people try to lie to get help. The way the TC is doing it is pretty creative though. Of course I take back everything when I see his install CD's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM965_X3100 Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 Make sure your anti-virus isn't blocking social club... SOCIAL CLUB CRASH FIX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chngdman Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 http://files.uploadffs.com/5/8d815f4f/k.png lol How can anyone deny that this desktop screenshot is that of a questionable nature? No matter what excuses any of you guys can give for any application on it or even it's environment and how it came to be - this desktop is that of either a user who doesn't know the or otherwise is knowingly a pirate and does it for whatever reason didn't have anything to do with his topic. Do you see where I'm really getting at here? The organization of those icons, the cod4 workarounds... First off get rid of all the crap running in the backround, unless you have 12 gb of memory its inyour best interest to remove as much as you need in order to run gtaIV properly. Secondly remove the no-cd crack, there's no point in having it, and third disable any AV your running or disable UAC in the control panel. The topic is Done. Case closed. Fixed. Anything else this user came with would have red flagged him as a pirate. His next post would have been about the drunken camera. True that, about all of that bloatsh*t btw. EDIT: Im starting to doubt you actually bought the game. This is where things go off track. Now no one get's to post links to fake fixes that play pirate music. Note the emphasis, the importance he put on his edit, through the use of capitalization. It was a ninja edit, thus he noticed something fishy about the screenshot he hadn't before, and probably was mad that he already had given the benefit of the doubt and he carries a personal vendetta about stealing Rockstar games. For all we know, he doesn't care if you pirate straight gold from the Royal Stash, just don't pirate Rockstar's sh*t. Still, it's none of our business, any of us. But that screenshot carries a story. A picture is worth one thousand words, and if you can't read 1000 words, don't point that out, it only makes you look as small minded as your posts are short - since I tend to be pointed out for being overly-analytical. And eggcox made a sig of me. Nevertheless, there is something really cool going on here. There are a lot of different emotions battling. Eggcox is taking it personal. Perhaps he owns all the same sh*t as this screenshot and has a similar icon-colony going on, along with the rest of the folks protecting sharing programs and so on. I just picked on you a lil eggcox, since we meet again upon that ridiculous laugh I had when I saw myself in your signature. Then again, who hasn't pirated some warez? And when have you ever heard anyone give a sh*t about it unless they were a pirate. I have never in my life read anyone defend the legal use of a torrent application unless they were a pirate themselves. I'm not pointing any fingers with that one, and before you take offense anyone, think it through: How would I know that those are the only people who would ever use the legal technicality (and Charlie is right, everyone is falling back on technicalities - which is a defense mechanism - of people who are defending their torrents lol)? How would I know it? And for the record, I'm talking about a lot more than a game being pirated. For all we know, the defenders are defending because, again, they relate. The whole fight shows that they are innocent owners of GTA IV who can vouche that whatever the actual problem was does indeed exist in legal copies. It says nothing about the ownership of all of that classic warez on his screen shot. Those are all classics, man. Completely. And the organization! It's all in the perfect places. Cyberlink & Damon Tools? And the "games and stuff" folder, showing off his cod4 folder and all of his out-of-root icons to help. lol. dude, that whole picture is so crooked. Free mirc, yo! http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?act=Sea...sult_type=posts Take a look at all of the post by this member. Very few, yet again, pictures tell a lot. "the last crack i was using i renamed it " are some words for those who may be browsing without images. This still doesn't say he just doesn't want to use his DVD, or that he is lying about his DVD writer being broken. But if you can not replace your DVD writer, you probably shouldn't be worried about getting GTA IV working. And whether that title is bought, that's a pirate box if I have ever in my life have scene one (you see what I did thar?). So I've watched this poor guy charming Charlie go back forth about this stuff for months. It's funny, but it does make a lot of other people look stupid. The problem is, the the vast majority is stupid. Don't use Linux to defend "sharing" programs - it's entire philosophy goes hand-in-hand with the warez scene. Can't finish this post without actually using this, sorry I didn't place it at a more clever location: For Historical/Time Sensitive Purposes: never listen to 99% of the people on this forum when they make hardware suggestions to you. and never ever ever under any circumstances follow chngdmans advice that guy knows the least what hes talking about. For truth? My ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emcax24 Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 (edited) lol you guys actually think he would come here to find help, or information on a fix for a crack if he downloaded the game and cracked it as you all say based on a screenshot of his desktop of all things lol? if i had the knowhow to a.) go find pirated software, b.) use torrents and daemon tools, and c.) install a crack then i can certainly find a place to ask for help with errors. like say... the place where i got the crack or the torrent site i downloaded the game from. but seeing as how none of you know what you're talking about and just parrot what you hear from other people who dont know wtf theyre talking about, i dont expect anything more. how do you know what the majority of people using torrents are doing with them? did you take a survey? are you packet sniffing the entire internet? oh wait... lemme guess you're going on the made up numbers from the **IAA? lol yeah just like crysis had a 20:1 piracy ratio, 1 million copies sold 20 million downloaded. lol heres my desktop in contrast, as you can see no shortcuts to games, oh sh*t theres a shortcut to gta4 f*ck i forgot to delete that one now im a pirate. Edited March 6, 2009 by emcax24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tantalus91 Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 lol Emcax. The big give away with the OP is that hes running a crack on L4D. That's a steam game that requires no cd after install. With the additions of the software he runs it all fits. And yes we know what we are talking about. http://www.torrentking.org/ Theres a list of alot of the known torrent trackers. Go through each one and go to their corresponding sites. You'll find maybe 4 legit sites in the first 10 pages. It's obvious your a big fan of pirating. Your defenses are idiotic and lack all kinds of common knowledge. If you told this stuff to an FBI officer that does his work in this expertise he would laugh uncontrollably and compare you to some guy he recently interrogated. If your so certain you use these programs legally then fine, please stop flaming. More importantly just say what you use torrents for. Pirating is one of the bigger issues why developers stay away from PC Gaming. It's not ok to support it outside of informational uses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emcax24 Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 (edited) you can tell he's runnin cracks becuse he has a shortcut to the game on his desktop? really? i have a bunch of shortcuts on my desktop too, is that from all the software i pirated? look i have a program to burn cd/dvd's and 2, count em 2 programs that convert videos from 1 format to another. f*ck call the fbi before i strike again. you just linked to a torrent site, i guess you're a pirate too? i myself? i use torrents mainly for downloading movies, and tv shows i missed when they were on tv. i spend all my time on the internet talking to idio... sh*t that reminds me i missed lost last night. Ahoy Matey. Edited March 6, 2009 by emcax24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chngdman Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 lol you guys actually think he would come here to find help, or information on a fix for a crack if he downloaded the game and cracked it as you all say based on a screenshot of his desktop of all things lol? Find all posts by the member who started this topic, you are an ignorant fool on this occasion. if i had the knowhow to a.) go find pirated software, b.) use torrents and daemon tools, and c.) install a crack then i can certainly find a place to ask for help with errors. like say... the place where i got the crack or the torrent site i downloaded the game from. Are you f*cking blind? Do you forget the day before today whenever you fantasize your tomorrows? Do you not see exactly this occurring over and over again? but seeing as how none of you know what you're talking about and just parrot what you hear from other people who dont know wtf theyre talking about, i dont expect anything more. Hey man, you are the calling the kettle black. The bullsh*t that comes out of your mouth, err fingers, is appalling. There is a difference between you not understanding my words and me understanding that yours are bullsh*t. how do you know what the majority of people using torrents are doing with them? did you take a survey? are you packet sniffing the entire internet? oh wait... lemme guess you're going on the made up numbers from the **IAA? lol Did you really just ask this and then make a point about how many times crisis was downloaded compared to buying it? yeah just like crysis had a 20:1 piracy ratio, 1 million copies sold 20 million downloaded. lol [img/]http://i41.tinypic.com/35kleza.jpg[/img] You Are Retarded, Dude. Your sig is a laugh, and the only thing funny about your entire charade. And topic starter is running AVG scan in the background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tantalus91 Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 you can tell he's runnin cracks becuse he has a shortcut to the game on his desktop? really? i have a bunch of shortcuts on my desktop too, is that from all the software i pirated? look i have a program to burn cd/dvd's and 2, count em 2 programs that convert videos from 1 format to another. f*ck call the fbi before i strike again. you just linked to a torrent site, i guess you're a pirate too? i myself? i use torrents mainly for downloading movies, and tv shows i missed when they were on tv. i spend all my time on the internet talking to idio... sh*t that reminds me i missed lost last night. Ahoy Matey. Steam games don't run outside of steam unless they've been cracked to run without steam. You don't even know what your talking about dude, your ignorance is just annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Cheese_Man Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 If he really did own photoshop (which costs a fortune by itself) he wouldn't have had problems buying a new DVD drive. Also I have Left 4 Dead and it doesnt produce that kind of shortcut. Only pirated versions do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chngdman Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 you can tell he's runnin cracks becuse he has a shortcut to the game on his desktop? really? i have a bunch of shortcuts on my desktop too, is that from all the software i pirated? look i have a program to burn cd/dvd's and 2, count em 2 programs that convert videos from 1 format to another. f*ck call the fbi before i strike again. you just linked to a torrent site, i guess you're a pirate too? i myself? i use torrents mainly for downloading movies, and tv shows i missed when they were on tv. i spend all my time on the internet talking to idio... sh*t that reminds me i missed lost last night. Ahoy Matey. You can tell by looking at the actual screenshot in question that it is a sophisticated pirate having a problem, yes. His whole process is right there on his desktop. His whole daily-usage is right there on his desktop, at his fingertips, easy to grab. Who uses all those media players? Please. Ecmax's screenshot shows more truth then he intended. This user, the one who started this topic, is a very active downloader. His Desktop Screenshot is like a f*cking painting of his daily routine. You Can't Defend That. Case closed, and now that that's known, Charlie might as well lock this sh*t so you all start bickering about that instead. Look at his posts, all those other screens, look at the issues he faces. f*ck that. Make him buy the game just like you all did and stop defending a liar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharmingCharlie Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 (edited) lol you guys actually think he would come here to find help, or information on a fix for a crack if he downloaded the game and cracked it as you all say based on a screenshot of his desktop of all things lol? Erm why do you find it amazing that someone would come here for help when they have a pirated version ? I would say 6 out of the 10 topics I lock is down to the fact they are clearly using a pirated version ie drunk camera, no internet and uncontrollable cars. You know there is a reason why the FAQ has a big section on the anti piracy measures, it's because we keep getting people coming in here with clearly pirated copies of the game. Again it isn't just the fact his desktop is choc o block with dubious icons amd programs that can be used for nefarious purposes. It is down to the fact that this guy for some "weird" reason won't take the simple step of buying a dvd drive to sort out his GTA 4 problem. Hmmmm I wonder why that is, I have said before if my dvd drive broke I would replace it first thing tomorrow after all it isn't a massively expensive repair. Anyway this is just going round in circles as chngdman suggested I am going to lock this, the guy has been given advice and if he has a legitimate copy he will be able to make use of that advice. If you have any complaints about me locking this, then pm someone that cares good luck trying to find someone. Edited March 6, 2009 by CharmingCharlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM965_X3100 Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 I dub thee smartest pirate ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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