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DANNYT07

Has anyone seen a tampa

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Pumpkin Zone

Maybe it's a random gang car for a Gang War?

 

I know you fight the AOD, which ride bikes.. then you fight random Italians which drive Sentinels, then you fight some Rastafarians which drive Voodoos(?).

 

Has anyone done all 100?

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Enjoii
Maybe it's a random gang car for a Gang War?

 

I know you fight the AOD, which ride bikes.. then you fight random Italians which drive Sentinels, then you fight some Rastafarians which drive Voodoos(?).

 

Has anyone done all 100?

There are more than 100, and yes, I've done more than 100. I can't recall ever seeing the Tampa during any Gang War.

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Pumpkin Zone
There are more than 100, and yes, I've done more than 100. I can't recall ever seeing the Tampa during any Gang War.

Geeze. Off-topic but are they never-ending or something?

 

Well, that screws my idea. I can't think of any other mission related thing that the Tampa might have appeared in, and everyones done the storyline and not seen it so I'm thinking the idea of it even being in the game is pretty moot.

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Enjoii
Geeze. Off-topic but are they never-ending or something?

Can't say for sure. I'm on around 107 I think, and they haven't stopped for me. I have seen a website list the reward for 'Completing all Gang Wars' as being Infinite Ammo, but I really don't see that happening personally, plus they didn't give a figure which just makes it seem very dodgy overall.

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# Model name,√ā¬† ¬†Txd name, Type√ā¬† ¬†HandlingId Game name,√ā¬† Anims√ā¬† Anims2√ā¬† Frq MaxNum√ā¬† Wheel Radius√ā¬† ¬†DefDirtLevel lodMult#√ā¬† √ā¬† √ā¬† √ā¬† √ā¬† √ā¬† √ā¬† √ā¬† ¬†Front Rear√ā¬† ¬†Swankness√ā¬† flags

 

 

 

romero, ¬†romero, ¬†car, ¬†ROMERO, ¬†ROMERO, ¬†[email protected], NULL, 10, 1, ¬†0.2071, 0.2071, 0, 2, 1.0, 1, -

 

 

 

tampa, ¬†tampa, ¬†car, ¬†TAMPA, ¬†TAMPA, ¬†[email protected], ¬†NULL, 100, 999, ¬†0.2240, ¬†0.2240, 0, 5, ¬†1.0 -

 

 

The Tampa seems to have a similar code to the Romero, which was mission specific. They both have NULL under the Anims2 column, and it is the only other vehicle I could find in the list that had NULL, but also had a - in the last column (flags). The Tampa code seems to be missing a number for the Swankness column though.

 

This could possibly be more evidence that the Tampa is mission specific.

 

Now if only we had the code for the other new TLAD vehicles. We could compare it to the Regina and Prison Bus which are both mission specific. If they both have NULL under the Anims2 column and a - under the flags column then we might be onto something.

 

Then again, I could have no idea what I'm talking about.

actually if you look there the Tampa is still a number short. it is missing the swankness which could be what is causing it not to spawn.

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Khal
Bet it`s the protagonists, personal, one-of-a-kind car in DLC2

Good idea.

 

Luis's story will probably be full of money, clothes, and fast cars. He is from the streets, so maybe he still drives an old muscle car.

 

 

Don't know why they would put the info in THIS DLC, but hey.. it's a good idea.

All(most?) of the DLC bike codes were found in the plan GTA IV files so why not have the tampa in this one?

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Dvt-MedShot
Bet it`s the protagonists, personal, one-of-a-kind car in DLC2

Good idea.

 

Luis's story will probably be full of money, clothes, and fast cars. He is from the streets, so maybe he still drives an old muscle car.

 

 

Don't know why they would put the info in THIS DLC, but hey.. it's a good idea.

All(most?) of the DLC bike codes were found in the plan GTA IV files so why not have the tampa in this one?

You mean the PC version? There are only a few bikes found. Not all the bikes are in the PC version...

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Claude4Catalina

Sorry if this is already known, but with 14 pages to look through, I can;t really be bothered, but anyway, in the opening cutscene of Johnny and the boys riding to meet Billy, when the pass the Pay n Spray underneath Plumbers Skyway, the car parked there with a person inspecting the engine looks to be a Tampe from the angle it is seen. I've revisited the location on my way to the Lost clubhouse, but it wasn't there.

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TGMOS

Thanks for posting that code, I find it interesting how it treats subway cars as vehicles. Imagine driving one of those around town!

 

Anyways, the DLC version of that file would be needed to check for sure. There must be a different file somewhere that controls where vehicles spawn, at what times, whether or not they can spawn in traffic, etc. If we can find a file like that, then it'd be easier. Or we could just go back to pestering Brady Games/R*

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andysniper
Sorry if this is already known, but with 14 pages to look through, I can;t really be bothered, but anyway, in the opening cutscene of Johnny and the boys riding to meet Billy, when the pass the Pay n Spray underneath Plumbers Skyway, the car parked there with a person inspecting the engine looks to be a Tampe from the angle it is seen. I've revisited the location on my way to the Lost clubhouse, but it wasn't there.

i dont think that is known yet

ill check it out on youtube

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Claude4Catalina

I dunno if it s a random spawn, seeing as its a cutscene, or wether its like the Dukes that somebody is breaking into as the Lost come of Plumbers Skyway, or the Gang Burrito that skids around on the Skyway. Also all the times I have seen the Tampa in that scene, it has been a dark colour, black or something similar, seeing as its dark in the game.

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OysterBarron
I think I actually found the Tampa the other day, but I didn't know about this thread. It spawned near the clubhouse once and I haven't seen it since.  Next time I'll take a picture if I see it again.

Did you actually get in it and see the name "Tampa" pop up, because some other vehicles can look pretty similar to the Tampa, specifically the Sabre GT.

I'm now starting to think they made a mistake in that guide, but that car in that screenshot looks like one I've driven in the game though.

Although the car looks like the Sabre GT, you can tell by the front headlights that it's different. I really doubt that Brady Games Guide would make a mistake like this. Maybe we should contact them somehow?

No unfortuantly brady games doesnt mess up, In the SA guide The collectable icons and pictures showing you where everything was were incorrect (they actually released a Printable version of the correct locations) but this wasnt bradys mistake rockstar changed all the locations at the last minute and that part of the guide was then incorrect.

 

So i wouldnt be surprised if this was going to be in the DLC But then rockstar removed it just before going gold and forgot to tell brady games again.

 

dont get to dishearted if the cars not in this DLC.

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andysniper

user posted image

 

heres a screen cap from the intro

to me that defiantly looks like a new car, hopefully the tampa

well done Claude4Catalina

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El Zilcho
-Snip Snip-

 

heres a screen cap from the intro

to me that defiantly looks like a new car, hopefully the tampa

well done Claude4Catalina

Great! I was searching for the vid but this solved the problem for me. That may just be the Tampa! Now we just have to find it... suicidal.gif

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andysniper
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLKtVxXAAXQ

 

Now, watch this at 1:40. You see the back of what seems like a silver-coloured muscle car... Tampa?

no that's most definatly a dukes

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the_regular_guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLKtVxXAAXQ

 

Now, watch this at 1:40. You see the back of what seems like a silver-coloured muscle car... Tampa?

Looks like the Dukes to me...like the red one the guy breaks into at 1:32, but with a different/smaller spoiler.

 

 

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Andrew.

Deffo dukes

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Derelict Frog

fair enough.

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DANNYT07

yer thats a tampa nice one guys the back looks a bit like a 1971 dodge challenger biggrin.gif more pieces to the puzzle =] !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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El Zilcho
Deffo dukes

Damn! I see now.

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the_regular_guy
yer thats a tampa nice one guys the back looks a bit like a 1971 dodge challenger biggrin.gif more pieces to the puzzle =] !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If the back looks like a 1971 dodge challenger then it's probably the Dukes, not the Tampa.

 

 

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DANNYT07
yer thats a tampa nice one guys the back looks a bit like a 1971 dodge challenger  biggrin.gif  more pieces to the puzzle =] !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If the back looks like a 1971 dodge challenger then it's probably the Dukes, not the Tampa.

the dukes is based on a charger not a challenger fool suicidal.gif

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darthYENIK

This is turning into the days when GTAIII came out, and somebody spotted a Taxi without a light on top. Somebody would post pictures, and tell stories of seeing one. I saw one once. It was being driven crazily, which was odd because cars didn't drive like that in that game.

 

Of course it may just turn into the GTA:SA Sasquatch fiasco.

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Pikey9002

Here's the entire vehicles.ide from TLAD

 

 

## see default.ide for id ranges## flags:# 0x01 gets streamed out after 1 car is generated (for dumpsters, MrWoopy etc)# 0x02 Don't use. Used by code internally.## isvan - vehicle has van style rear doors.## DefDirtLevel:# describes default level of dirt on newly created cars:# 0.0 ¬†-> dirt range is <0.0; 1.0> (full range - default)# 0.5 ¬†-> dirt range is <0.5; 1.0># 0.75 -> dirt range is <0.75;1.0># etc.##cars# Model name, ¬† Txd name,	Type ¬†	HandlingId	Game name, ¬†Anims ¬†	Anims2	Frq	MaxNum	WheelSc Rear ¬†DefDirtLevel	lodMult ¬†# ¬† ¬† ¬† ¬† ¬† ¬† ¬† ¬† ¬† ¬†Swankness	flags# cars have two extra fields wheelmodelId and wheel scale# planes have one extra field model id of low level of detailgburrito,	gburrito,	car, ¬†GBURRITO,	GBURRITO,	[email protected], ¬†NULL,	10,	999,	0.1949, ¬†0.1949,	0.7,	1,	1.5	noboot+isvan+truckfirefxslamvan, ¬†slamvan, ¬† ¬† ¬† ¬†car, ¬†SLAMVAN,	SLAMVAN,	[email protected], ¬†NULL,	100,	5,	0.2142, 0.2142, ¬†0.5,	3,	1.0	noboot+ext_strong+ext_requi+isvantowtruck, ¬†towtruck,	car, ¬†TOWTRUCK,	TOWTRUCK,	[email protected], ¬†NULL,	10,	1,	0.2142, 0.2142, ¬†0.5,	1,	1.0	noboot+ext_strong+ext_requipacker2,	packer2,	car, ¬†PACKER, ¬†PACKER, ¬†[email protected], ¬†NULL,	10,	999,	0.3523,	0.3508, ¬†0.5,	2,	1.5	noboot+big+avoidturns+ext_strong+ext_script+truckfirefx+truckexhaustfx+truckenginefxpbus, ¬†	pbus, ¬†car, ¬†PBUS, ¬†PBUS, ¬†[email protected], ¬†NULL,	10,	999,	0.3238,	0.3238, ¬†0.5,	2,	1.5	noboot+big+avoidturns+truckfirefx+truckenginefxyankee2,	yankee2,	car, ¬†YANKEE2,	YANKEE2,	[email protected], ¬†NULL,	10,	999,	0.3141,	0.3141, ¬†0.6,	2,	1.5	noboot+avoidturns+truckfirefx+truckenginefxrhapsody,	rhapsody,	car, ¬†RHAPSODY,	RHAPSODY,	[email protected], ¬†NULL,	100,	999,	0.2225,	0.2225, ¬†0.3,	5,	1.0	ext_gang+ext_all+ext_strongregina, ¬†	regina, ¬†car, ¬†SOLAIR, ¬†REGINA, ¬†[email protected], ¬†NULL,	100,	999,	0.2225,	0.2225, ¬†0.3,	2,	1.0	-tampa, ¬†	tampa, ¬†car, ¬†TAMPA, ¬†TAMPA, ¬†[email protected], ¬†NULL,	100,	999,	0.2240,	0.2240, ¬†0,	5,	1.0	-# Bikes#angel, ¬†angel, ¬†bike, ¬†ANGEL, ¬†ANGEL, ¬†[email protected]_chopper,	NULL,	100,	999,	0.2526, 0.2303, ¬†0,	4,	1.0	nobootbati, ¬†bati, ¬†bike, ¬†BATI, ¬†BATI, ¬†[email protected]_SPT, ¬† ¬† ¬† ¬† NULL,	100,	999,	0.2175, 0.2175, ¬†0,	5,	1.0	nobootbati2, ¬†bati2, ¬†bike, ¬†BATI2, ¬†BATI2, ¬†[email protected]_SPT, ¬† ¬† ¬† ¬† NULL,	100,	999,	0.2175, 0.2175, ¬†0,	5,	1.0	noboot+liverydaemon, ¬†daemon, ¬†bike, ¬†DAEMON, ¬†DAEMON, ¬†[email protected]_chopper,	NULL,	100,	999,	0.2526, 0.1964, ¬†0,	4,	1.0	nobootdiabolus,	diabolus,	bike, ¬†DIABO, ¬†DIABO, ¬†[email protected]_freeway,	NULL,	100,	999,	0.2507, 0.2345, ¬†0,	4,	1.0	nobootdouble, ¬†double, ¬†bike, ¬†DOUBLE, ¬†DOUBLE, ¬†[email protected]_SPT, ¬† ¬† ¬† ¬† NULL,	100,	999,	0.2307, 0.2307, ¬†0,	5,	1.0	nobootdouble2,	double2,	bike, ¬†DOUBLE2,	DOUBLE2,	[email protected]_SPT, ¬† ¬† ¬† ¬† NULL,	100,	999,	0.2307, 0.2307, ¬†0,	5,	1.0	noboothakuchou,	hakuchou,	bike, ¬†HAKUCH, ¬†HAKUCH, ¬†[email protected]_SPT, ¬† ¬† ¬† ¬† NULL,	100,	999,	0.2287, 0.2246, ¬†0,	5,	1.0	noboothakuchou2,	hakuchou2,	bike, ¬†HAKUCH2,	HAKUCH2,	[email protected]_SPT, ¬† ¬† ¬† ¬† NULL,	100,	999,	0.2287, 0.2246, ¬†0,	5,	1.0	noboothexer, ¬†hexer, ¬†bike, ¬†HEXER, ¬†HEXER, ¬†[email protected]_freeway,	NULL,	100,	999,	0.2408, 0.2311, ¬†0,	4,	1.0	nobootinnovation,	innovation,	bike, ¬†INNOV, ¬†INNOV, ¬†[email protected]_freeway,	NULL,	100,	999,	0.2287, 0.2251, ¬†0,	4,	1.0	nobootlycan, ¬†lycan, ¬†bike, ¬†LYCAN, ¬†LYCAN, ¬†[email protected]_freeway,	NULL,	100,	999,	0.2601, 0.2397, ¬†0,	4,	1.0	nobootnightblade,	nightblade,	bike, ¬†NIGHTBL,	NIGHTBL ¬†[email protected]_freeway,	NULL,	100,	999,	0.2526, 0.2303, ¬†0,	4,	1.0	nobootrevenant,	revenant,	bike, ¬†REVENANT,	REVENANT,	[email protected]_freeway,	NULL,	100,	999,	0.2185, 0.2152, ¬†0,	4,	1.0	nobootwayfarer,	wayfarer,	bike, ¬†WAYFARER,	WAYFAR, ¬†[email protected]_chopper,	NULL,	100,	999,	0.2526, 0.1964, ¬†0,	4,	1.0	nobootwolfsbane,	wolfsbane,	bike, ¬†WOLFS, ¬†WOLFS, ¬†[email protected]_freeway,	NULL,	100,	999,	0.2304, 0.1933, ¬†0,	4,	1.0	nobootend	txdpvehshare_truck, vehshareyankee2, vehshare_truckgburrito, vehshare_truckpbus, vehshare_truck

 

 

And the entire cargrp.dat file

 

 

## file: cargrp.dat# description: For each type of ped (worker, clubber etc) we maintain a list of the cars they might drive.# This list is used to pick cars in a very similar way we pick peds.#buccaneer, voodoo, sanchez, manana, rancher, ruiner, marbella, virgo, bobber, uranus, stalion, moonbeam, merit, solair, vincent, bobcat,  # POPCYCLE_GROUP_HARLEMfuto, buccaneer, hakumai, sabre2, ingot, manana, fortune, vigero2, esperanto, lokus, minivan, chavos, cavalcade, emperor2, pres, rebla, bobber, towtruck, rhapsody,   # POPCYCLE_GROUP_BRONXstratum, premier, chavos, feroci, habanero, sabregt, faction, pinnacle, dilettante, merit, patriot, perennial, moonbeam, minivan, nrg900, towtruck, rhapsody,    # POPCYCLE_GROUP_JERSEY sentinel, fxt, intruder, sultan, schafter, washington, cognoscenti, pmp600, oracle, nrg900, huntley, banshee, landstalker, cavalcade, stretch, feltzer, zombieb  # POPCYCLE_GROUP_UPTOWNfuto, hakumai, emperor, ingot, voodoo, dukes, vincent, stratum, esperanto, marbella, lokus, premier, minivan, admiral, e109, sabre,  # POPCYCLE_GROUP_QUEENSblista, intruder, sultan, washington, patriot, dilettante, merit, solair, virgo, hellfury, sabregt, sentinel, moonbeam, primo, peyote, rebla, pres, rhapsody,  # POPCYCLE_GROUP_BROOKLYNfortune, uranus, vigero, primo, admiral, df8, feroci, e109, pinnacle, faggio, habanero, sentinel, fxt, rebla, pcj, pres, schafter, perennial, landstalker,   # POPCYCLE_GROUP_MIDTOWNblista, sabre, emperor, willard, bobcat, peyote, rancher, faggio, marbella, dukes, virgo, df8, faction, stalion, primo, vigero2   # POPCYCLE_GROUP_BLACK_POORpatriot, pmp600, banshee, oracle, zombieb, coquette, huntley, feltzer, habanero, hellfury, nrg900, landstalker, cognoscenti, cavalcade, fxt, sentinel,  # POPCYCLE_GROUP_FASHION ruiner, sultan, premier, fxt, vigero, df8, faction, ingot, intruder, dilettante, landstalker, vincent, e109, feroci, merit, minivan, emperor, esperanto, stratum, rhapsody,  # POPCYCLE_GROUP_BOHEMIANpatriot, sentinel, sultan, pmp600, huntley, fxt, cavalcade, coquette, feltzer, banshee, e109, schafter, oracle, rebla, sabregt, vigero, perennial, washington,  # POPCYCLE_GROUP_TRENDYminivan, merit, marbella, manana, feroci, faction, futo, ingot, blista,  # POPCYCLE_GROUP_RUSSIANturismo, cavalcade, sentinel, schafter, feltzer, oracle,   # POPCYCLE_GROUP_ITALIANbobcat, futo, vigero, blista, virgo, vincent, stalion, sabre, rancher, sentinel, feltzer, buccaneer, minivan, merit, manana, chavos, feroci, premier,  # POPCYCLE_GROUP_EASTERN_EUROPEANsultan, pmp600, cavalcade, feltzer, schafter, pmp600, coquette, oracle, turismo, supergt, comet, banshee, # POPCYCLE_GROUP_SHOPPING_RICHbobcat, futo, vigero, blista, voodoo, virgo, vincent, stalion, sabre, chavos, ruiner, rancher, e109, pres, merit, faction, df8,    # POPCYCLE_GROUP_CHINESE_JAPANESE vigero, voodoo, virgo, vincent, stalion, sabre, ruiner, emperor, esperanto, rancher, merit, marbella, manana, feroci, faction, dukes,   # POPCYCLE_GROUP_SOUTH_AMERICANadmiral, virgo, premier, vincent, sultan,  # POPCYCLE_GROUP_SHOPPING_AVERAGEforklift, flatbed, packer, phantom, benson, mule, boxville, pony, burrito, biff, steed, speedo, # POPCYCLE_GROUP_DOCKS (Obbe:forklift added back in. Should only be created on nodes with SPECIAL_SMALL_WORKERS set)oracle, turismo, pmp600, cavalcade, pres, banshee, huntley, habanero  # POPCYCLE_GROUP_BUSINESS_HIGHsentinel, schafter, feltzer, landstalker, premier, chavos, vincent, rancher,  # POPCYCLE_GROUP_BUSINESS_LOWburrito, stalion, bobcat, blista, faction, speedo, stockade, vincent, e109, pony, merit, minivan, esperanto, stratum,    # POPCYCLE_GROUP_FACTORYmrtasty,  # POPCYCLE_GROUP_PARKmrtasty, # POPCYCLE_GROUP_GOLFcabby, taxi, taxi2,  # POPCYCLE_GROUP_TAXIflatbed, packer, phantom, speedo, biff, # POPCYCLE_GROUP_BUILDING_SITEmule, ripley, airtug, bus, perennial2, feroci2, # POPCYCLE_GROUP_AIRPORT_WORKERSstockade, # POPCYCLE_GROUP_SECURITYpmp600, voodoo, fxt, cavalcade, e109, huntley, # POPCYCLE_GROUP_PROSTITUTES_PIMPSvigero2, marbella, emperor2, burrito, blista, sabre2, # POPCYCLE_GROUP_BUMShakumai, futo            # POPCYCLE_GROUP_GANG_ALBANIANwolfsbane, nightblade, daemon, angel, wayfarer  # POPCYCLE_GROUP_GANG_BIKER_1 (Angels Of Death)  	lycan            	# POPCYCLE_GROUP_GANG_BIKER_2 (The Lost) Obbe removed hellfury because of low density Obbe removed zombieb because of low density  sentinel, pmp600            # POPCYCLE_GROUP_GANG_ITALIANrebla, schafter          # POPCYCLE_GROUP_GANG_RUSSIAN	(maffia/Mob)hakuchou, double, Bati, Bati2      	# POPCYCLE_GROUP_GANG_RUSSIAN_2	(E1 is Ruff Riders)oracle, e109          	# POPCYCLE_GROUP_GANG_IRISHhuntley, voodoo          # POPCYCLE_GROUP_GANG_JAMAICANpatriot, landstalker          # POPCYCLE_GROUP_GANG_AFRICAN_AMERICANsultan, pres          	# POPCYCLE_GROUP_GANG_KOREANintruder, feroci          # POPCYCLE_GROUP_GANG_CHINESE_JAPANESEprimo, cavalcade          # POPCYCLE_GROUP_GANG_PUERTO_RICANpolice, police2, polpatriot, noose, predator, pstockade, nstockade, fbi  # POPCYCLE_GROUP_COPSfaggio, futo, stalion, bobber, ruiner, coquette, hellfury, sultan, infernus, nrg900, premier, fxt, pcj, vigero, blista, sanchez, df8, faction, zombieb, taxi, ingot, hellfury, intruder, lokus, nrg900, pres, vincent, sanchez, admiral, pmp600, bobber, banshee, dukes, # POPCYCLE_GROUP_NETWORKreefer, squalo, marquis, jetmax, tropic, # POPCYCLE_CAR_GROUP_BOATScognoscenti, vincent, pres, intruder, feroci, sultan, stratum, hakumai, df8, schafter, ingot, primo, admiral, oracle, merit, premier, washington, solair, pinnacle, lokus, willard,  # POPCYCLE_CAR_GROUP_BORING_SALOONSripley, airtug, bus, mrtasty, perennial2, feroci2, forklift, gburrito, slamvan, packer2, pbus, yankee2, tampa, diabolus, double2, hakuchou, hexer, innovation, revenant,  # POPCYCLE_GROUP_ONLY_IN_NATIVE_ZONE  (These cars will only appear in the zones that they belong in)

 

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DANNYT07
This is turning into the days when GTAIII came out, and somebody spotted a Taxi without a light on top. Somebody would post pictures, and tell stories of seeing one. I saw one once. It was being driven crazily, which was odd because cars didn't drive like that in that game.

 

Of course it may just turn into the GTA:SA Sasquatch fiasco.

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John The Grudge

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I notice that the roof of the vehicle seems to be of the fabric sort. I'm fairly certain that this isn't a vehicle I've already seen in the game.

 

The code responsible for the "Hot Coffee" mod was left on the Sand Andreas disc yet never made it into the final game. This could perhaps be the case with the Tampa. As somebody has already pointed out, the Brady game guide may not be correct due to R* having previously made changes to games, presumably after the guides have gone to press.

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I notice that the roof of the vehicle seems to be of the fabric sort. I'm fairly certain that this isn't a vehicle I've already seen in the game.

Well, there is a Stallion which has a fabric roof. But the shape of the vehicle in that picture isn't like the Stallion so it does look like the new car.

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TGMOS

That picture just might be the tampa, but if not, then it's definitely a Stallion. I'm gonna load up the game myself and see what it looks like closer up. If that thing really is the tampa, then that's probably the only place where it is in the game, during that cutscene.

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No it is in the game but it will only show up in a certian zone. no if someone could figure out where they have the zones those special vehicles show up in it would help.

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