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ghosttribe

ALDERNEY STATE CORRECTIONAL FACILITY

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ghosttribe

I don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but I was playing both games back and forth to look for differences in the enviroments and things like that. I noticed that Niko can take a helicopter into the ALDERNEY STATE CORRECTIONAL FACILITY without any problem, but when johnny just enters their air space, the prison alarm goes off, 3 stars are added to the hud, and the helo becomes a bullet magnet.

 

Oh yeah, and the graphics don't compare to the original in high def.

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ikt

The Alderney State Correction Facility simply only holds American citizens. Johnny is one. Niko isn't. They don't want Niko.

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El Zilcho
The Alderney State Correction Facility simply only holds American citizens. Johnny is one. Niko isn't. They don't want Niko.

So if an illegal immigrant flies a chopper into a New York prison, they'lll say it's ok? I detect a ridiculously flawed arguement.

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ghosttribe
The Alderney State Correction Facility simply only holds American citizens. Johnny is one. Niko isn't. They don't want Niko.

LOL, I think you better re-read my post.

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Enjoii

 

The Alderney State Correction Facility simply only holds American citizens. Johnny is one. Niko isn't.

True, but they let Niko wander around inside whereas an alarm goes off when you try it with Johnny.

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Pumpkin Zone

That's odd. Perhaps it was something they decided to impliment just because it seems more realistic?

 

Not a 'lol niko allowed, jony not' thing, you know?

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gta 4 gamer

Did you finish the last mission?

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Enjoii

 

Did you finish the last mission?

Yeah, you aren't allowed in before or after, I've tried.

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ghosttribe

I wonder if its off limits in multiplayer?

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PhilipO43
Oh yeah, and the graphics don't compare to the original in high def.

They added in a yellow tint, simular to the way the PS3 version is rendered, so that's why it appears to not look as good(or different) to some.

 

I'm sure the game is still rendered in 720p with 2XFSAA(like Niko's story), but they added in the yellow tint and removed(or decreased) the blue one, so the shadows look greenish and the brightness is overdone in the daytime.

 

It also appears there is a darker look to some textures, and maybe so to fit the whole biker theme.

 

 

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Enjoii
I wonder if its off limits in multiplayer?

It isn't 'off limits' in single player. When you enter it with Niko, you can walk around and nothing happens. When you do so with Johnny, you can still get in there but a siren goes off and you get a wanted level.

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d.nivatkar

Maybe it is because Johnny enters the Alderney State Correctional Facility to kill the Lost Motorcycle Club's president turned Government Witness, Billy Gray ?

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Enjoii
Maybe it is because Johnny enters the Alderney State Correctional Facility to kill the Lost Motorcycle Club's president turned Government Witness, Billy Gray ?

This has already been suggested. The alarm and wanted level still happens before you do that.

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ghosttribe
Maybe it is because Johnny enters the Alderney State Correctional Facility to kill the Lost Motorcycle Club's president turned Government Witness, Billy Gray ?

even before that mission, you still trigger the alarm.

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d.nivatkar

Or because Niko is an immigrant (maybe they think he is an tourist on a sight seeing tour ? biggrin.gif ) with a much lesser 'recorded' criminal history than Johnny, member of a Liberty City based biker gang who must have had his shares of police trouble before the storyline ?

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Mathuran K

Oh yeah, and the graphics don't compare to the original in high def.

 

dis is jus probably due to the Noise feature

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Slamman
The Alderney State Correction Facility simply only holds American citizens. Johnny is one. Niko isn't. They don't want Niko.

So if an illegal immigrant flies a chopper into a New York prison, they'lll say it's ok? I detect a ridiculously flawed arguement.

biggrin.gif It's pretty amusing, I'll give it that. Well, it is a find nontheless! lol.gif

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MMAN

Funny how everyone took the guy that said maybe its because Niko is a immagrant seriously lol If that wasn't sarcasm Idk What is and I too am wondering if the people who think the graphics dont compare have the noise feature on..I dont notice a dif between graphics personally under certain circumstances(mainly when its bright) the noise makes it look worse but at night it only gives a darker feel IMO

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Magic_Al

The real answer of course is some of differences in TLAD are things that Rockstar realized were mistakes in IV. If IV was done over Niko would get an alarm and stars for entering the prison. Another "do over" change is how Johnny's friends give him 2 game hours to meet for an activity instead of Niko's friends giving 1 hour, because 1 hour sometimes isn't enough even if you drive like you're racing.

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Mo4pheus
I noticed that Niko can take a helicopter into the ALDERNEY STATE CORRECTIONAL FACILITY without any problem, but when johnny just enters their air space, the prison alarm goes off, 3 stars are added to the hud, and the helo becomes a bullet magnet.

 

I haven't had the time to try this yet as I've been a bit busy trying to figure out which friend activity I'm missing for 100%, but is it switched with the airport in TLAD?

 

In other words, Niko gets 4 stars when he enters, does Johnny get 4 as well, or is it ok for him? I don't know of any missions at the airport in TLAD - haven't finished the story yet.

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Darkgamr
I noticed that Niko can take a helicopter into the ALDERNEY STATE CORRECTIONAL FACILITY without any problem, but when johnny just enters their air space, the prison alarm goes off, 3 stars are added to the hud, and the helo becomes a bullet magnet.

 

I haven't had the time to try this yet as I've been a bit busy trying to figure out which friend activity I'm missing for 100%, but is it switched with the airport in TLAD?

 

In other words, Niko gets 4 stars when he enters, does Johnny get 4 as well, or is it ok for him? I don't know of any missions at the airport in TLAD - haven't finished the story yet.

You still get 4 stars as Johnny at the airport. And there is a mission where you aren't 100% required to go on the runway, but it will speed things up for the impatient

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Timpo

it's actually a great place to start a big gunfight, bringing Terry & Clay along. it's a shame my guinea pig has better AI than those two, though. bored.gif

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restax

Niko isn't caputerd by the police and don''t send to prison! Jhonny is a tough guy who is been al long time in prison cookie.gif

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Faledak

Actually, Niko was in prison in his own country, he says it in some mission

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radweld

R* probably forgot to add the prison as a restricted location in GTA4 but corrected it in TLAD, i was trying to work out how far you can enter the airport before you get a wanted level, i think its close the runway lol.

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smeagol
R* probably forgot to add the prison as a restricted location in GTA4 but corrected it in TLAD

that corrects this topic

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