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Will Rockstar fix the cheating in MP?


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hehe, i beleive i'm a bit addicted to playing this online so i'm going to continue playing, but i just found out about a bonus game mode, follow the ones you suspect are making boats fall out the sky and report them and you get 200 gamer points smile.gif, same with any of the cheaters you notice, but the end user "us" should not have to be game cheat cops lol

 

but really i seriously hope rockstar and/or ms come up with a solution, especially with some of the insane things happening in game causing pc's to crash, i know when someone is cheating as the game goes really laggy all of a sudden, it is not just vehicles being dumped, about 5 skate park ramps apeared on the road, so next thing we'll be seeing could be hotdog stands, a pile of people, an aeroplane or 20

 

i'm hoping it is just a simple trainer made by a rogue coder, but i thought with ms live you could not cheat, i'm going to start making a ms live friends list so i can be sure i'm playing against real gamers.

 

seemed fairly ok 10pm uk onwards, just normal lag in races where someone playing on poor net connection, so i guess the cheating babys were tucked up in bed lol.

 

 

I was just in a free roam server, nothin new just a few french people in it messin around. They were being jerks though, tried to kick me because i was a "weak english player" well that didn't work so I was just roamin around happily. Then my game went black and said "Connection to one or more players has been lost" I was like okayyy this is a new one and tried to open GFWL then my screen started freakin out and my game crashed. Restarted and joined them again and they started laughing all deviously frenchly and it happend to me again.

 

Has it really been long enough for people to find exploits and infobooms? :-S

 

I really just hope my game was acting up but I joined a seperate server and nothing, nada.

 

 

Has Anyone els had this happen to them and do you know if someone has hax to do this?

 

does not sound good, not happened to me, yet

 

 

Now fix this exploit R* AND THE MEMORY LEAK PLEASE
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It's funny to see you scumbags try to justify cheating. Every single one of you lack the skills to kill without your cheats.

I have honestly never seen an online game so completely destroyed by cheaters. Ever.

 

I have to admit I generally only play Wolfenstien Enemy Territory anymore, and I only play on one server because the players are on top of cheating and what gets by PunkBuster gets caught by us, and the player is promptly banned!

 

Someone was complaining about me asking if Rockstar would use Punkbuster, at least it gets rid of the majority of cheaters. The rest get caught by the players. It would be a damn sight better than the nothing they have now.

 

GTA IV really is a blast to play online for about 12 minutes a night, till the cheaters crash the server and/or my computer. Thats honestly about the longest I have been able to play.

 

RockStar should get their money back from SecureRom, and invest it in PunkBuster.

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Nietzsche's God

Here is a assumption (a conspiracy if you will): The majority of the cheaters are actual employee of Punkbuster.

 

 

I lol'd

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It's funny to see you scumbags try to justify cheating. Every single one of you lack the skills to kill without your cheats.

Hah. You think they cheat for the kills? No one cheats for kills. It's always about annoying other people, and if you complain and get annoyed rather than leaving the server, they win. Best course of action against them is a kick vote. If unsuccesfull, ask the others to add you (if you were playing together with them) and make a pw protected server. If everyone did this, cheaters would be extinct by now. Instead everyone chooses to bitch and moan and thus, provide them with what they want.

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finally!!! just received an email from the internetz

 

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Dear Mr. Frkm,

 

we are currently working on anti cheat and anti kid software. please be patient, we know there are lots of idiots out there. we also hired some men to eat them and their families.

 

Regards,

Mr. Internet

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last game i played last night was when a cheat dumped a solid road block on the track, could not drive through it so thought balls to this and just watched a film, rarely get to see who does the object spawns.

 

there was 1 or 2 people saying i seemed to be going faster than everyone else, and to be honest it seemed like i was going a little faster but only in a couple of races, does this mean the cheaters have the ability to target players with tweaks to make them look like cheaters, if this is so it has got way out of hand, i don't even use any command lines since getting my gtx285, rockstar have got to use a good anti-cheat function else no one would want to play online anymore because of this.

 

i have even set all graphics to low with a res of 1680x1050 for when an idiot spawns a pile of vehicles so my pc does not crash, i can play the single player game near max settings and could do on multi if it were not for this problem.

 

 

Dear Mr. Frkm,

 

we are currently working on anti cheat and anti kid software. please be patient, we know there are lots of idiots out there. we also hired some men to eat them and their families.

 

Regards,

Mr. Internet

 

sounds good i think smile.gif

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EDIT: Just wanted to add that althought some modders might not use the mods to intentionally harrass others, some do, and that alone is a good enough reason to not allow them online. If an exception is made for the well meaning modders, a lot of morons will also take the opportunity.

 

Not really. Morons will still find the way, it's just you guys who don't use mods at all won't be able to defend yourselves and leave the server, making every server a cheat one aka killing the MP. The only way of rescuing the MP is waiting for SAMP devs to make a dedicated server.

 

 

And lastly, if modding it outlawed, then only outlaws will mod.

I'll translate:

If modding is banned/removed, then only assholes will mod.

 

 

@Waynio

No one tweaked your game, you weren't going faster than others. It's just others were going slower, since they had lower FPS. You said you can max out the game in SP, thus your FPS is certainly ain't low in MP. There's a thread on the forum about some guy saying he was going faster than others sometimes, and there was an explanation.

 

 

Oh and yeah guys, you need to drop your overly aggressive vigilante mode.

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EDIT: Just wanted to add that althought some modders might not use the mods to intentionally harrass others, some do, and that alone is a good enough reason to not allow them online. If an exception is made for the well meaning modders, a lot of morons will also take the opportunity.

 

Not really. Morons will still find the way, it's just you guys who don't use mods at all won't be able to defend yourselves and leave the server, making every server a cheat one aka killing the MP. The only way of rescuing the MP is waiting for SAMP devs to make a dedicated server.

 

 

Has anyone even considered mod servers. Every other frequently modded game in the universe has them, and they work.

When you join, the server checks your version and the MD5 (a number generated by all the digits in each of your files) of all the files it uses. If there is one that fails, the server beams you it's version. Thus you don't have to go mod hunting to get into those servers, and the cheaters and hackers all get their own servers to f*ck about and piss everyone off in.

 

Combine it with punkbuster to stop code injection (what trainers do) and your bullet proof, and you dont evne need private servers (as cool as they are.)

 

Half Life does it, Counter Strike does it, BF2 does it, Star Wars games do it. Even SA:MP and MTA do it, so why R* hadn't thought of it.

 

BECAUSE THEY STILL HAVEN'T GOT OVER HOT COFFEE AND THUS TRY AND MAKE MODDERS THE VILLAINS OF EVERY PIECE.

 

Tw*ts.

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I like using mods in single player but i like to play fairly in multiplayer because i get pissed of whenever i die and so would someone else but if you've got godmode on then you'll be really pissed and you won't win and get achievments upgrades etc.

 

If you use cheats in multiplayer there are possible reasons you do so:

1. You Suck!

2.Your are just a dick to everyone

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i guess i can understand people being bitter not being able to play the game well on their pc so they wreck it for others, just like life some people get highly jealous of others rather than better themselves, and some just go way too far and assault others, i suppose were getting the equivalent but on online gaming.

 

 

Oh and yeah guys, you need to drop your overly aggressive vigilante mode.

 

yeah your right, but it really does bug me especially when i've been having excellent fun racing against 15 or more and even people coming in last were having fun, and then you see most good players disapear off the server and you can see tons of objects that have been spawned with a 10 or less fps, when that happens i think its just best to join another server, so i suppose best thing to do when anything gets spawned into a race would be to immediately leave the server without saying a word.

 

 

@Waynio

No one tweaked your game, you weren't going faster than others. It's just others were going slower, since they had lower FPS. You said you can max out the game in SP, thus your FPS is certainly ain't low in MP. There's a thread on the forum about some guy saying he was going faster than others sometimes, and there was an explanation.

 

 

thanks for clearing that up, makes sense

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I actually does not fully understand the argument, that if the game can be modded, it is ment to be modded, and thereby playing with mods in multiplayer is not cheating.

 

 

If you play soccer, you CAN just pick up the ball and run around, knocking everyone else down. Unfortunately, noone else is playing succer like that, and therefore you will be the only idiot running around following your own rules. For tha same reason, you will be banned from playing soccer and for sure get your ass kicked.

 

 

Thats why MP modders are plain idiots, nomatter what stupid excuses they come up with. I - too - hope you all gets permanently banned real soon. rampage_ani.gif

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But why dont you REPORT them in GFWL ?! Its beyond my understanding that in a server with lets say 15ppl... and one sucker spawning/ruin game noones takes little or NO action whatsoever... look chatting and tell him he's a moron doesnt help banning him, kick him has no effect if not everyone brings up their phones and in contacs choose him and votekick... i know some are unkickable

 

You have to REPORT them in GFWL, simply when you've seen whos cheating/modding bring down the console press "HOME" button, goto players and the most recent folks you've met are in top... click him and choose "FILE COMPLAINT" choose appropriate complaint and accept

 

Better if you do that before you leave, do not mod against him... dont feed the birds !!!

 

And if EVERYONE does this im sure in the end they get their accounts banned and in time we will have less cheater/modders... but it wont help if your not actively report them... you hear me ??? lets do this EVERYONE who spots a cheater/modder REPORT !!!

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But why dont you REPORT them in GFWL ?! Its beyond my understanding that in a server with lets say 15ppl... and one sucker spawning/ruin game noones takes little or NO action whatsoever... look chatting and tell him he's a moron doesnt help banning him, kick him has no effect if not everyone brings up their phones and in contacs choose him and votekick... i know some are unkickable

 

You have to REPORT them in GFWL, simply when you've seen whos cheating/modding bring down the console press "HOME" button, goto players and the most recent folks you've met are in top... click him and choose "FILE COMPLAINT" choose appropriate complaint and accept

 

Better if you do that before you leave, do not mod against him... dont feed the birds !!!

 

And if EVERYONE does this im sure in the end they get their accounts banned and in time we will have less cheater/modders... but it wont help if your not actively report them... you hear me ??? lets do this EVERYONE who spots a cheater/modder REPORT !!!

Only one thing I want to say is don't over-do it. I had someone file a complaint on me because I turned godmode after he killed me. He tried again (notice, only him, everyone else was doing something else, there was barely any kills in top left corner and probably accidental when there was one), and failed so then he proceeded to whine for about 5 minutes about how I'm a loser and I cheat because I can't play without cheats. So then I actually told him lets go play DM match if he wants to kill around. He refused with an excuse that I will cheat there too. Invited him few more times, he just ignored and then quit after few mins.

 

No logic whatsoever.

 

 

(I mean, sure, file complaint against those Tug boats spawners, but not just ANY modder. It's because you file a complaint against an asshole, not a modder. Most assholes are modders, but not vice versa aka not every modder is an asshole.)

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most of the time it is virtually impossible to be 100% sure who dumps a pile of fire trucks at the begining of a race, but i definately caught 1 and i filed a complaint through win live, i don't want to report someone i only think is cheating, i have to know for sure if i'm going to file a complaint.

 

modding just should not exist in multiplayer altogether, needs to be keep only for single player, not only is it unfair it really spoils the fun of the game. however the only fun thing i have seen sporned on a race was bits of a skate park but they spawned quite a lot of them, it enabled a crazy big jump on superbikes but made the game laggy so was not so great.

i would not mind if people used mods for better game performance like command lines that is just optimizing but not to cheat or make the game lagggggggy on purpose.

 

would have been playing online a lot more if the cheating either calmed down a lot or they were unable to cheat, but i suppose when someone says something can't be done they can't resist to try to prove them wrong.

 

anyway i just hope rockstar fix this cheat fest if they can on the next patch and hopefully a race track editor or more race tracks or even all the same tracks but in reverse would be an awesome bonus cool.gif

 

goes to show how great this game is thou with me still wanting to play despite its problems.

 

still not seen a 32 player race and would like to very much biggrin.gif

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Bump

Why bump this Topic?

 

I mean, all thats going to happen is more players whine about the cheaters and blame the modders and so on confused.gif

 

Or do you think an R* member is going to look @ it?

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HushemFlupskluk

I swear to god, when I visit a online party and I find a bunch of those hackers in my area I will mosh theyr equipment and stomp their noses!

 

Hacking in multiplayer IN ANY FORM shows the social skills of a hacker is remarkably low. You have just requested some extra high social value attention. I WIL spend my time and my energy in f*cking these people up in my own way. You people are very evil and bad. I know you are a small share of all the GTA 4 MPlayers, and when we meet ...

 

AND HOW CAN YOU BE PROUD OF IT??? It is just to pathetic for words man!! And yes it makes me emotional, because I care about people.... YOU, don't give a f*ck about other fairplaying users.

 

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open your cell phone . go to phone book, find cheaters name and vote to kick.

Cheaters have as much rights there as you. if the consensus elect to kick, then all is good for you.

if they do not, then you are the bad seed.

 

Punk buster is trash. it's more fricken bloatware for you guys to cry about having to install.

 

I find this re-occurring little thread as antagonizing a fight for something that is fixed.

Please stop bumping this garbage.

If you don't like it, don't read it! What kind of idiot reads an entire 5 page thread and then says: "I find this re-occurring little thread as antagonizing a fight for something that is fixed. Please stop bumping this garbage."?

 

You come off way to heavy man, like a book burning nazi. Nobody wants to be told by you or anyone else, what they should or shouldn't read.

 

Troll somewhere else.

Um, I do not troll. I tell you a fix for the problem you are facing.

and you call me a troll?

I show you the answer is there and has been there for a while and you call me

a troll?

and you keep bumping this thread like there is no solution while there is one?

a simple one at that.

You clearly are the troll here.

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Bump

Why bump this Topic?

 

I mean, all thats going to happen is more players whine about the cheaters and blame the modders and so on confused.gif

 

Or do you think an R* member is going to look @ it?

That's exactly what I'm hoping. I know they are aware of the situation, but if they can read what other people are experiencing maybe it will help them to implement some kind of protection against cheaters. The more info they have, the better they can make informed decisions to fix it. I would hate to see modding banned all together, maybe with the information taken from these forums they can find a way for us all to exist without causing problems for others.

Basicly, the more information the better is what I figure.

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Bump

Why bump this Topic?

 

I mean, all thats going to happen is more players whine about the cheaters and blame the modders and so on confused.gif

 

Or do you think an R* member is going to look @ it?

That's exactly what I'm hoping. I know they are aware of the situation, but if they can read what other people are experiencing maybe it will help them to implement some kind of protection against cheaters. The more info they have, the better they can make informed decisions to fix it. I would hate to see modding banned all together, maybe with the information taken from these forums they can find a way for us all to exist without causing problems for others.

Basicly, the more information the better is what I figure.

Reported.

 

Have fun =)

 

I'm with the idea to file complaints through GFWL. Seems like the only way to fix this.

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Bump

Why bump this Topic?

 

I mean, all thats going to happen is more players whine about the cheaters and blame the modders and so on confused.gif

 

Or do you think an R* member is going to look @ it?

That's exactly what I'm hoping. I know they are aware of the situation, but if they can read what other people are experiencing maybe it will help them to implement some kind of protection against cheaters. The more info they have, the better they can make informed decisions to fix it. I would hate to see modding banned all together, maybe with the information taken from these forums they can find a way for us all to exist without causing problems for others.

Basicly, the more information the better is what I figure.

There is NO point in bumping this topic, this is a FAN forum and we have no official connection to Rockstar so spamming this forum and bumping these topics is not going to get you anywhere.

 

The best thing you can do is report cheaters/modders using the games for windows live interface, that's what I have been doing and if enough people do it then Rockstar and the GFWL will become aware of the problem. Now stop bumping this topic just for the hell of it, if you have something relevant to say about the topic then fine, but don't just do a "bump" post. Infact just for that I am closing this topic, if you have something relevant to say on cheating and hacking then use this thread :-

 

http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=395010

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