nvr2fst Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 (edited) Well stop whinging and get yourself some nice mods too, problem solved, or go play freemode, probably much nicer people to be playing with in the first place. The poster you have quoted is right on, couldn't agree more with it, the problem explained in a nutshell. Time to grow up. 1) I do not want to cheat like a little bitch and have an advantage others do not, so no I will not get cheats (mods). Problem unsolved. 2) I do not like freemode. 3) The first poster didn't explain diddlysquat. 4) Erm, cheaters on internet games need to grow up. Let me try and explain it then. Part of this discussion is whether or not cheating is allowed in non ranked MP games, I'm not suggesting it is. I do however strongly believe that cheating in free roam is perfectly acceptable, for the reasons pointed out by that quoted poster, as in there is NO advantage to be gained in free roam, therefore there is no cheating. Perfectly logical and IMHO not too difficult to understand. Now apparently you are the competitive kind of player, that's fine as it is, but you have either two choices, go and find games which are cheat free or accept it as a disadvantage of this particular game, as it doesn't seem very likely that this will end any time soon. One thing I do know for sure, is that calling people names isn't going to get you anywhere, that's were the growing up part comes in. "as in there is NO advantage to be gained in free roam, therefore there is no cheating. " Yeah the advantage is called having fun. Without being harrased by idiots. Just because it is not ranked doesnt mean people dont want to have fun. The game isnt totaly setup just for accomplishments. Free roam is just what keeps the game going. Edited February 25, 2009 by nvr2fst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjaak327 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 "as in there is NO advantage to be gained in free roam, therefore there is no cheating. " Yeah the advantage is called having fun. Without being harrased by idiots. The game isnt totaly setup just for accomplishments. Free roam is just what keeps the game going. Just like in the real world Deal with it, I mean come on, I simply laugh at these people, I spawn myself a nice car, switch on car god mode and they can shoot all the rpg's they want at me, I just ignore them and go on my way. Then it even becomes fun when they go like. hey you ... There are loads of people having fun in free roam using car spawners, object spawners and the like, without having the intention to crash the game or be a burden to other people, therefore it IS acceptable. For the people that willingly use tools like that to ruin the game for others, just deal with them, to ban all modding is definiately not the solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fedde Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Well stop whinging and get yourself some nice mods too, problem solved, or go play freemode, probably much nicer people to be playing with in the first place. The poster you have quoted is right on, couldn't agree more with it, the problem explained in a nutshell. Time to grow up. 1) I do not want to cheat like a little bitch and have an advantage others do not, so no I will not get cheats (mods). Problem unsolved. 2) I do not like freemode. 3) The first poster didn't explain diddlysquat. 4) Erm, cheaters on internet games need to grow up. Let me try and explain it then. Part of this discussion is whether or not cheating is allowed in non ranked MP games, I'm not suggesting it is. I do however strongly believe that cheating in free roam is perfectly acceptable, for the reasons pointed out by that quoted poster, as in there is NO advantage to be gained in free roam, therefore there is no cheating. Perfectly logical and IMHO not too difficult to understand. Now apparently you are the competitive kind of player, that's fine as it is, but you have either two choices, go and find games which are cheat free or accept it as a disadvantage of this particular game, as it doesn't seem very likely that this will end any time soon. One thing I do know for sure, is that calling people names isn't going to get you anywhere, that's were the growing up part comes in. Erm I do not give a damn about free mode as I don't play it and so I couldn't give a damn about your logic. What bothers me is people cheating in the games I play online. That's all that bothers me. I don't give a damn if you, tom, dick and harry load your own server in free mode and dress up in skirts and mummy's bra - that crap doesn't bother me. All my viewpoints are in regard to EXACTLY what this thread is about (not "in part) i.e. cheating in non ranked games. My experience of it is bloody sour and I've expressed why. Telling someone to grow up when their opinion differs isn't going to get you anywhere either you pratt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharmingCharlie Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 You know it's funny, it seems if you are a GTA fan that wants to play GTA 4 as Rockstar intended then you have no business being online. I am being constantly told to "get off the game" because either it's a clan match, someone trying to get an achievement or now I am told I shouldn't bother with free mode because that is only for people that mod. I am getting a bit damn sick of it all to be honest, it isn't Rockstar that ruined GTA online nor is it MS. It's PC gamers that think they have the damn right to do whatever they want and screw everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fedde Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 And btw, is there anything more pedantic than correcting someone's typo of pedantic? Moronic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hergonan Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 (edited) Listen kid, you are focusing on harmless utopianistic "modding", ie skins and car spawning.. In REALITY people are spawning boats all over the airport. In REALITY people are editing their weapons and calling it modding. My definitions were perfect. You are an excuser for total idiocy and the whole reason GTA is bust. You try to split cheating and modding into separate categories by whether or not it causes displeasure to others... well you are incorrect kid. Cheating is playing in any way the raw game won't allow, on a raw server. Period. Alright "daddy". Whoever cheats and calls it modding should die in a fire. Cheating and modding are separate. Just like cracking and hacking. Just because all the retards call cracking hacking, that doesn't mean that hacking is cracking. So, either you're a retard, or you just don't want to admit your mistakes. Poor you. And btw, is there anything more pedantic than correcting someone's typo of pedantic? Moronic. Check this link out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony Anyway, enough of this drama. If you want more drama you can PM me and we can have awesome gay sex there. My message on the topic is, people who cheat on multiplayer games, as well as the "harmlesss" modders (yes) shouldn't be allowed to do it in public games. Edited February 25, 2009 by Hergonan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjaak327 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Erm I do not give a damn about free mode as I don't play it and so I couldn't give a damn about your logic. What bothers me is people cheating in the games I play online. That's all that bothers me. I don't give a damn if you, tom, dick and harry load your own server in free mode and dress up in skirts and mummy's bra - that crap doesn't bother me. All my viewpoints are in regard to EXACTLY what this thread is about (not "in part) i.e. cheating in non ranked games. My experience of it is bloody sour and I've expressed why. Telling someone to grow up when their opinion differs isn't going to get you anywhere either you pratt. Some people get exactly what they deserve I would love to play with you, that would be ever so great fun, just to annoy you. I am beginning to understand those cheaters more and more, some people just ask to be annoyed, you are clearly one of them. You obviously only care about yourself, and about the grief that apparently has been brought on to you, without consideration with other people and whatever their views or needs might be, but of course that is of no concern to you, as you are self centered, that is exactly why you need to grow up, but I'm sure you will never understand that, for that you actually need to open yourself up to other people. Again time to grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alle090 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Im a modder, and im proud of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvr2fst Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 "as in there is NO advantage to be gained in free roam, therefore there is no cheating. " Yeah the advantage is called having fun. Without being harrased by idiots. The game isnt totaly setup just for accomplishments. Free roam is just what keeps the game going. Just like in the real world Deal with it, I mean come on, I simply laugh at these people, I spawn myself a nice car, switch on car god mode and they can shoot all the rpg's they want at me, I just ignore them and go on my way. Then it even becomes fun when they go like. hey you ... There are loads of people having fun in free roam using car spawners, object spawners and the like, without having the intention to crash the game or be a burden to other people, therefore it IS acceptable. For the people that willingly use tools like that to ruin the game for others, just deal with them, to ban all modding is definiately not the solution. Your answer is to just deal with it? Imagine if we used that logic in all aspects of our life. Where would we be? Think about that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fedde Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 sjaak you can get my nuts, ok boy? sir multi account. really, get busy, because you are a blip to me. f*ckin nothin, just a little bitch online trying to be someone. move along. as for the other little wiki bitch; buddy i made no errors. editing the game in any way which the others players have not is cheating. period. you try to backtrack now like a slimy bitch but it's no use. there's no irony in anything that's happened here btw, you need to get some advanced education by the looks of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharmingCharlie Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Okay dokey and that is enough of that, since you can't discuss this like adults we won't bother discussing it at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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