Nikkola bellic,Belgrade,Serbia Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 (edited) Gangs Stats List * Influence - Respect on the streets as well as the buisness world. Determines how easy it is to recruit or take over a area * Money - Spend personal money , assests, drug dealing , legit owned business , armed robbery , setting up rivals , grand theft auto , arms dealing. * Cars - Type of cars each gang drives ( Min 1 - Max 3) * Assests - Assests can be owned by gangs, the state or neutral. All assests can be upgradable. * Territory - What area the main gang resides[based on influence it that territory] * Weapons - Basic weapons gang carries before being upgraded * Leaders - The right hand of the gang. Leaders handle the day to day basis and can be seen walking around the city with gangs. Here you can choose the likes of badman , roman, lil jacob, brucie. * Gang Members & Rankings - # of gangmembers depend on surrounding territory and influence *Special Ability* - Special ability each gang has ( unknown if this will be a feature) * Gangs Spending - Cars and Car upgrades (specific number each gang has) , Weapons and Weapons ugrades (specific number each gang has) , Bribing police(if your gang is about to do or has done crimmes and detected) , hiring hitmen , Assests and upgrades , buying and upgrading drugs. Assests and special abilites * Luxury properties generate more money. businesses with a lot of gang members on the turf would keep your wanted level down (like taking the wrap for you or fighting off police or other gangs) if you are on or near the property * Boatyards should generate a good amount of legit money and dirty money as the boatyards in LC are used to smuggle in drugs and illegals from other parts of the world . * Car shops get you free paint jobs or tune ups * Weapon Store - discount on weapons and better upgrades for current guns (EX. grenade launcher on AR) Gang Rankings * Novice * OG - Full Gang Member * Shot Caller - leader of each individual gang or set * King/Don - Leader of entire gang and gang sets Gang Influence Gang influence is determined by the amount of controlled assets and number of gang members. The quality of assets also effects the gang's influence (you get more influence points for higher quality assets). The gangs influence determines your respect on the street as well as how easy it is for you to recruit out of your influence range . The higher your influence the higher the food chain you are up. The Class of area in which you control determines your influence as well . Like you own a ghetto you probably have *** influence but if you own a towers and rich areas you get ****. Cars and amount of revenue your gang makes also effects your influence. Each gang has a static influence not based on owned hood which means the influence around the city. EX: Russian Gang * Influence - 8/10 * Money - 8 Million * Cars - BMW , Mercedes * Assets - Porn Studio , Comarades bar , Perostroeka , Mihails House * Territory - Brighton Beach * Weapons - Knives , Assault Rifles , Pump Shotgun * Leaders - Faustin , Petar (Created Leader) , Petrovic * Gang Members & Rankings - Faustin Gangmember Count (150) , Petar Gangmember Count (XXX) * Special Ability - Expert Interrogation * Gang Spending This is how most gangs will be categorized in the mod.maybe That is basically it but we need to correct it a lot and add a "Gang control panel | from where you cold manage it Also possible gang names and locations and possible perks from assets .Everyone post your ideas on this freely This is looking quite impressive, I've been watching this a bit since I stumbled on it. However, I have no programming/modding skills, so I am unable to help out with it, as much as I would like to. Hope you guys can stick with it and bring us one of the most awesome looking mods I've seen in a long time. As you saw really NONE knowledge of programing is needed!Only goodwill and some data We will try to, but there has been a big decrease in support... which means less data is collected... and the mod doesn't work without the data, just like how GTA4 doesn't create anything if it's .dat files are empty... Yeah so everyone who want to help this mod-NO programing knowledge required please post in site,or here or message me ,We need some support! Mouse-camera system: (will be used in World Builder soon, and once fixed properly, will replace the default player camera system) This I have a feelng is going to be an epic addition Edited March 30, 2009 by Nikkola bellic,Belgrade,Serbia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk Russian 9 Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 @Nikkola bellic,Belgrade,Serbia: Please shorten your quotes when quoting such large posts. Put Gangs Stats List . . . instead. Thanks. Thank god . . . the current system is annoying as f*ck, but useful. Read the suggestion I left you in the forum, they are quite useful if you ask me. Yeah I know well, the first stage of getting it to work, is to create the commands to do everything, and attach basic key controls to them... *then* a better control system can be implemented, which I am doing now. I have so much planned for the world builder . . . so thanks for the renovations. I'll help with the ids as a way to show my gratitude, just let me know when you're ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nothke Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Hi, I've been watching this mod closely for about 2 months, and I must say I'm astonished. This must be a hell lot of a job for you Vetra! The problem is I never even played GTAIV, so there is no way I can help, but just (verbally) support. If you can think of anything, I'm available. I modded SA a lot (inserted models, textures...), and I am also a 3d modeler, but as I see there is no model importer yet, I can't use much for you. I'm studying architecture, and its killing me, so about 23 hours a day I'm working for school. I am mostly interested in the world builder, so is there anyone who can make short video on youtube of the new version, since there is only the first version? please... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkola bellic,Belgrade,Serbia Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 (edited) Hi, I've been watching this mod closely for about 2 months, and I must say I'm astonished. This must be a hell lot of a job for you Vetra! The problem is I never even played GTAIV, so there is no way I can help, but just (verbally) support. If you can think of anything, I'm available. I modded SA a lot (inserted models, textures...), and I am also a 3d modeler, but as I see there is no model importer yet, I can't use much for you. I'm studying architecture, and its killing me, so about 23 hours a day I'm working for school. I am mostly interested in the world builder, so is there anyone who can make short video on youtube of the new version, since there is only the first version? please... Thanks countryman for your support to this! You could help specifically on world builder by helping sort out its IDs It is needed to make it work faster ! and will speed it up,Vetra is already making mouse control and GUI!We will make a video then I have so much planned for the world builder . . . so thanks for the renovations. I'll help with the ids as a way to show my gratitude, just let me know when you're ready. Yeah not only you will show gratitude to him but will help him make it as soon as possible Edited March 30, 2009 by Nikkola bellic,Belgrade,Serbia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk Russian 9 Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 (edited) Hi, I've been watching this mod closely for about 2 months, and I must say I'm astonished. This must be a hell lot of a job for you Vetra! The problem is I never even played GTAIV, so there is no way I can help, but just (verbally) support. If you can think of anything, I'm available. I modded SA a lot (inserted models, textures...), and I am also a 3d modeler, but as I see there is no model importer yet, I can't use much for you. I'm studying architecture, and its killing me, so about 23 hours a day I'm working for school. I am mostly interested in the world builder, so is there anyone who can make short video on youtube of the new version, since there is only the first version? please... Thanks countryman for your support to this! You could help specifically on world builder by helping sort out its IDs It is needed to make it work faster ! and will speed it up,Vetra is already making mouse control and GUI!We will make a video then He can't, he doesn't have GTA IV. Unless we have a model viewer . . . Also: @ Vetra: "I would say 'seamless teleport' " Maybe we should plan to actually incorporate seamless once the model files are cracked? It seems there are some willing modelers around here. Besides, I can't stand to see Niko teleport through a door, it makes me sick . . . and from the way you're doing it there will be no windows to shoot out of, cops won't be able to get in, etc. It'll ruin the realness factor of the game and your property sub-mod. Edited March 31, 2009 by Drunk Russian 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkola bellic,Belgrade,Serbia Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 (edited) We need some feedback,support ideas at least!!! This is so great,I cant believe so few people want to help you guys I mean this mod has it all!Maybe I am just shocked that so few people li from here offered their help hire when everyone here says then want this/that feature and they can have it waaaay sooner than gta5/6 Gangs more,complex relations,buy able assets,drug dealing,everything! weapons realism,20 more varieties.........etc etc Cars Visible Modding shops,500!! Possible variants....... Map editor!!! Police smarter and realistic in wanted level,traffic TONS more interiors, features and activities that were in previous GTAs,or never before!TO NAME a FEW! I dont get those people that cant even post to see GTA 4improven in every possible way, all feature from pervios gTAs plus much upgraded GTA4conceps!!! Maybe you shouldn't even let them download once it is done no matter how good you guys are! I will do some research on possible car variants and will post them your forum or PM nikkola Bellic or Vetra!! PEOPLE THIS MOD HAS ALL[ALL!] features you ask for in mods and next GTA,want and I simply cant believe so few from these forums have offered their SUPPORT,no need to do anything! ... but thanks a lot for your support man Yeas all these things are in progress plus some more that STUNNED me like possibility to add more characters with DIFFERENT STORY LINES! ""Lets be realistic and do some research rather than just pick out random gangs. What I think you should include: Real Name GTA Name Decent Areas Colors Rivals Crips - Mostly black Bronx & Brooklyn Blue Bloods Bloods(UBN) - Mostly black Harlem Red Crips Latin Kings - Latin - Yellow & Black Crips Tritinarios(3NI) - Latin West? - - Dominicans Don't Play(DDP) - Latin Queens, Manhattan, Bronx, Brookyln - Bloods, Latin Kings Please help me fill this table out guys."" here is my small contribution to this list,drunk Russian Mara Salvatrucha,18-latin ones from Mexican mafia Albanians-White-Shqiptaret -Steinway beer garden[Where Irish are now in game has actually more Greeks and Albanians I hear!}-red banners-Italians In game gangs are not accurate gangs but mixture! And keep in mind that all of these gangs have a lot of factions and most powerful ones are very secret so no clear names of factions for all Well why not take a look at this,and tell what you think - Really great detailed post about gangs in GTA4 http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=359178&st=0 here is some site about real life gangs http://www.knowgangs.com/gang_resources/menu.php few more http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Gangs_in_New_York_City http://www.americanmafia.com/Cities/New_York.html What happened with this list man?It could be useful Why not update it I gave you some info Edited March 31, 2009 by Nikkola bellic,Belgrade,Serbia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmoli Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 You are working on storyline I mean f*cking epic!flawless I love the gangs also especially that they will have complete system and control of yours!!!! EPIC and the ability to make tactic positions WOW! JUST WOW!This will be like best game EVER!!! Overexcited EPIC!!! @Nikkola did you get message I sent you about cars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk Russian 9 Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 The link you posted about gangs should have all the info we need. That's why I stopped. This link: http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=359178&st=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark008 Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 influence 8/10 and money 8Mil?? *cough* *cough* *cough* sorry if thats how much influence then they probably get MUCH more. sorry im being racist today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealPcGamer Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Honestly, I still can't understand what's this mod's point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkola bellic,Belgrade,Serbia Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 (edited) Honestly, I still can't understand what's this mod's point. The point my friend is this -ALL PARTS OF GTA IV IMPROVED MUCH PLUS MORE All systems including statehouses,gangs,police,editor,player and vehicle system just ALL park cars anywhere,realistic weapon and car behavior ,real names,up to 300+ possible car variants,gang system with upgradable gagn,buyable proprieties witch you can upgrade,inventory system plus more-an Overhaul! Best mod there will be @Everyone interested can at least post ideas on this or help if you like -here it is INTERACTIVE GANGS-BUY ABLE ASSETS WITH INTERIORS-REVISED POLICE AND CRIME SYSTEM-REALISM-TON FEATURES-LATER EVEN MISSIONS!-MAP EDITOR! Edited April 1, 2009 by Nikkola bellic,Belgrade,Serbia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealPcGamer Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 But why I still don't get any major difference when I download the BETA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkola bellic,Belgrade,Serbia Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 (edited) But why I still don't get any major difference when I download the BETA? For now you can see different car names,park where you like with saved data and use world builder if press "F12" plus whole database you cant notice in game all these other things will come next Note that most of this was made in 1-2 weeks its aimed that most of all other things come one by few months from now Ypu asked what the point is?EVERY aspect of GTA IV that you could imagine for it from past GTAs or any other features!! influence 8/10 and money 8Mil?? *cough* *cough* *cough* sorry if thats how much influence then they probably get MUCH more. sorry im being racist today This is just an example feel free to add to ideas we need them The link you posted about gangs should have all the info we need. That's why I stopped. This link: I know but you started about real life gangs and their possible real life stats,that link is about in game ones only,plus we will add more,so if you want to update that list please do it can be useful so we can implement some of them as soon as its possible Edited April 2, 2009 by Nikkola bellic,Belgrade,Serbia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk Russian 9 Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 (edited) The link you posted about gangs should have all the info we need. That's why I stopped. This link: I know but you started about real life gangs and their possible real life stats,that link is about in game ones only,plus we will add more,so if you want to update that list please do it can be useful so we can implement some of them as soon as its possible Thing is, that post has everything I was looking for. Bloods, Crips etc and their GTA equivalent. No need to do unecessary research, besides if you ask me, I'd rather have the current gangs updated before the model files are cracked, so that we can give new gang a unique distinct look. Edited April 2, 2009 by Drunk Russian 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowridincrew Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Wow. This is alot. Now im going to have to get a better graphics card sooner now. Plus I hope you have a team working on this with you. Have Multiple Cookies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealPcGamer Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Well I'll give it a try when the Public Release is come (not BETA) if I see the whole of this mod I think it's pretty interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vetra Posted April 2, 2009 Author Share Posted April 2, 2009 @Nikkola bellic,Belgrade,Serbia: Please shorten your quotes when quoting such large posts. Agreed You're spamming us sorry dude I have so much planned for the world builder . . . so thanks for the renovations. I'll help with the ids as a way to show my gratitude, just let me know when you're ready. The camera controller is coming on quite well It will allow us to do point-n-click object placement and manupilation in World Builder amongst other things. There will still be many things made/upgraded on WBuilder, so don't worry These are still early days. Hi, I've been watching this mod closely for about 2 months, and I must say I'm astonished. This must be a hell lot of a job for you Vetra! The problem is I never even played GTAIV, so there is no way I can help, but just (verbally) support. If you can think of anything, I'm available. You can give ideas and still help with certain data collection which is independant of the game. I modded SA a lot (inserted models, textures...), and I am also a 3d modeler, but as I see there is no model importer yet, I can't use much for you. I'm studying architecture, and its killing me, so about 23 hours a day I'm working for school. We're creating a catalogue of all the best GTA4 mods made by other people (as a tribute to them, and to help people easily find mods) if you're interested. It's a bit of a large section, and I started it off quite a bit, but I had to stop because of time restrictions. If anyone is interested in managing that section, PM me I am mostly interested in the world builder, so is there anyone who can make short video on youtube of the new version, since there is only the first version? please... If anyone makes any videos, please email them to me and I will add them to the site with the appropriate credits Or maybe I should make a public display section... (I recommend using FRAPS to create short video clips, and then re-encode them) Maybe we should plan to actually incorporate seamless once the model files are cracked? It seems there are some willing modelers around here. Besides, I can't stand to see Niko teleport through a door, it makes me sick . . . and from the way you're doing it there will be no windows to shoot out of, cops won't be able to get in, etc. It'll ruin the realness factor of the game and your property sub-mod. You do realise the time and cost factor of doing that? It would cost a lot, and replacing current models will lead to all kinds of problems (especially in areas where they once were... that would break all missions...) Creating a seamless building would take maybe a month each at this rate... R* had about 30 professional map artists, 10 interior artists, about 25 level designers, about 10 level artists etc etc... oh, and a $100,000,000 budget. Making the city at that level with seamless interiors... I bet we would break their budget You are working on storyline I mean f*cking epic!flawless I will be making some mission creation tools... I love the gangs also especially that they will have complete system and control of yours!!!! EPIC and the ability to make tactic positions WOW! Yeah... everyone likes these things, but we've seen about 0.5% of people helping so far... JUST WOW!This will be like best game EVER!!!Overexcited EPIC!!! That's if it gets made Support has dropped by about 60% in the last 2 weeks. People just occasionally stop in to see if there is a new release, and apart from that, they don't care about contributing. If each of those people spent 5 minutes helping, we would have all of the data collected already, insteading of dumping the load on a few decent people... The link you posted about gangs should have all the info we need. That's why I stopped. This link:http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=359178&st=0 Useful link Soon, we'll have to convert all these things into some form of useable data Honestly, I still can't understand what's this mod's point. *no comment* But why I still don't get any major difference when I download the BETA? Because it's a beta test version for people to test out, so that we can see if the background systems are working properly... there are very few visible features because of the lack of support. I can create the features, but we need lots of people to supply data to get these complex systems to work. This isn't just a mod, it is a simulation system that will eventually override many of the game's internal systems with much more advanced ones... Wow.This is alot. Now im going to have to get a better graphics card sooner now. Plus I hope you have a team working on this with you. Have Multiple Cookies You don't need a better graphics card for this Well I'll give it a try when the Public Release is come (not BETA) if I see the whole of this mod I think it's pretty interesting. How nice of you let everyone else do the work, and when it's done, then you take your cut... __________________________________________________ I ADDED SOME PROGRESS GRAPHS WHICH I WILL UPDATE INSTEAD OF POSTING TEXT UPDATES. This gives a better overview of everything... http://forums.vallanavetra.com/software/vi....php?f=21&t=172 I will tell you which parts I'm working on though... Please comment on this and tell me if you think this is a more effective way of showing you progress... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illdan Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Vetra, showing the graphs seems alot more comftrable instead of text updates, by the way, what are those gray squares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vetra Posted April 2, 2009 Author Share Posted April 2, 2009 The gray ones just show requirements... they kind of 'link' to other things. I didn't want to change the colours of those as well, so I just left them as gray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark008 Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 (edited) "Honestly, I still can't understand what's this mod's point." - umm, to make game much more enjoyable in some way which Vetra plans for community. if you dont like it, then keep it to yourself, otherwise feel free to download it when the full version is released (which estimation time isnt known yet).... or even help us any way you can(which i dont really believe u gonna do, lol). Hello Vetra and Nikkola im sorry though that i stopped play GTA IV and more rarely coming to this forum. Edited April 2, 2009 by mark008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkola bellic,Belgrade,Serbia Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 (edited) *deleted* Edited April 2, 2009 by Nikkola bellic,Belgrade,Serbia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olddawid Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 QUOTE You are working on storyline I mean f*cking epic!flawless I will be making some mission creation tools... yes goood.. like "Design your own mission ingame" dyom " for san andreas kinda style makuing cutscene etc. o u should work whit dutchy and them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkola bellic,Belgrade,Serbia Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 (edited) You are working on storyline I mean f*cking epic!flawless I will be making some mission creation tools... yes goood.. like "Design your own mission ingame" dyom " for san andreas kinda style makuing cutscene etc. o u should work whit dutchy and them? Can you clarify this man? It will be like whole new STORYLINE/S i if that is what you asked!!!! "Honestly, I still can't understand what's this mod's point." - umm, to make game much more enjoyable in some way which Vetra plans for community. if you dont like it, then keep it to yourself, otherwise feel free to download it when the full version is released (which estimation time isnt known yet).... or even help us any way you can(which i dont really believe u gonna do, lol). Hello Vetra and Nikkola im sorry though that i stopped play GTA IV and more rarely coming to this forum. Yeah maybe he didn't understand lol I tol you all aspects of GTA IV!!! if this is an insult on other hand I mean lol its not even funny but sad Welcome back Mark what is up man?want to help me come up with ideas on gangs man?I need some advice lol.ralrely who want to help on it now? To anyone applied !!! :)Does anyone want to at least discuss gang system and gangs with me? we need to work it out Here is my messenger contact [email protected] or post here Edited April 3, 2009 by Nikkola bellic,Belgrade,Serbia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk Russian 9 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Maybe we should plan to actually incorporate seamless once the model files are cracked? It seems there are some willing modelers around here. Besides, I can't stand to see Niko teleport through a door, it makes me sick . . . and from the way you're doing it there will be no windows to shoot out of, cops won't be able to get in, etc. It'll ruin the realness factor of the game and your property sub-mod. You do realise the time and cost factor of doing that? It would cost a lot, and replacing current models will lead to all kinds of problems (especially in areas where they once were... that would break all missions...) Creating a seamless building would take maybe a month each at this rate... R* had about 30 professional map artists, 10 interior artists, about 25 level designers, about 10 level artists etc etc... oh, and a $100,000,000 budget. Making the city at that level with seamless interiors... I bet we would break their budget Alright, I had no idea, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowridincrew Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 lol i need a new graphics card even to play the regular one basically. off topic* WHO WANTS TO BUY A 8600GTSOC lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealPcGamer Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 I want to help, but I don't have some scripting skill... So yeah I just can support your amazing mod. Hope released ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmoli Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 (edited) Honestly, I still can't understand what's this mod's point. The point my friend is this -ALL PARTS OF GTA IV IMPROVED MUCH PLUS MORE All systems including statehouses,gangs,police,editor,player and vehicle system just ALL park cars anywhere,realistic weapon and car behavior ,real names,up to 300+ possible car variants,gang system with upgradable gagn,buyable proprieties witch you can upgrade,inventory system plus more-an Overhaul! Best mod there will be @Everyone interested can at least post ideas on this or help if you like -here it is INTERACTIVE GANGS-BUY ABLE ASSETS WITH INTERIORS-REVISED POLICE AND CRIME SYSTEM-REALISM-TON FEATURES-LATER EVEN MISSIONS!-MAP EDITOR! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I mean flawless really yes I got some cars info wanted to do attributes but.. I can already imagine the gangs in IV lol like vice and SA together only BETTER!!!lol To anyone applied !!! :)Does anyone want to at least discuss gang system and gangs with me? we need to work it out Here is my messenger contact [email protected] or post here @Nikola I added you on [email protected] right? Check it out About helping and to discuss gangs since not many want to lol Edited April 3, 2009 by Gizmoli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark008 Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 I want to help, but I don't have some scripting skill... So yeah I just can support your amazing mod. Hope released ASAP. dont have to need scripting skills, as i know they still need some "info gathering"... am i right Vetra? Nikkola- no im not back, i only came to see whats new and im gone out, cya. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkola bellic,Belgrade,Serbia Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 Honestly, I still can't understand what's this mod's point. The point my friend is this -ALL PARTS OF GTA IV IMPROVED MUCH PLUS MORE All systems including statehouses,gangs,police,editor,player and vehicle system just ALL park cars anywhere,realistic weapon and car behavior ,real names,up to 300+ possible car variants,gang system with upgradable gang,buy able proprieties witch you can upgrade,inventory system plus more-an Overhaul! Best mod there will be @Everyone interested can at least post ideas on this or help if you like -here it is INTERACTIVE GANGS-BUY ABLE ASSETS WITH INTERIORS-REVISED POLICE AND CRIME SYSTEM-REALISM-TON FEATURES-LATER EVEN MISSIONS!-MAP EDITOR! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I mean flawless really yes I got some cars info wanted to do attributes but.. I can already imagine the gangs in IV lol like vice and SA together only BETTER!!!lol To anyone applied !!! :)Does anyone want to at least discuss gang system and gangs with me? we need to work it out Here is my messenger contact [email protected] or post here @Nikola I added you on [email protected] right? Check it out About helping and to discuss gangs since not many want to lol Yeah all possible additions to IV are planned so it will be WAAY better and upgraded than features from vice and San Andreas together It is worked on similar properties and business Vice and gangs which were in San Andreas much upgraded plus tons more features So best of all worlds plus more and all upgraded and kept together AND with realism and other stuff from IV And yeah come on if anyone want to help or AT LEAST DISCUSS Gangs or something else post in site http://forums.vallanavetra.com/software/viewforum.php?f=7 or here or add me in live messenger and Yeah I saw that man nice @Mark yes you are right only help we need is INFO and discussing features ,NO PROGRAMING or anything required!!!so come on anyone that wants to support us Mark I think you are back else you wouldn't post man and that great:) even if too busy with those 10+ girls you just cant part with us,so better post some idea on gangs then just check on us lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geokes Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 Looking great havent downloaded it yet coz i haven't finished GTA 4 yet the shame. If you want any ideas new clothes shops and stealth stabbing cause they were great in SA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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