nikobellic91 Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 jesus, now im REALLY confused, one says i need to mark every single object(building) other says i need to mark whole block i gonna get a rest for a whole day then. u dont need to mark the block just the individual buildings and the surrounding area it owns! edit:u hav to mark the undeveloped land with green just like u have done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark008 Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 jesus, now im REALLY confused, one says i need to mark every single object(building) other says i need to mark whole block i gonna get a rest for a whole day then. u dont need to mark the block just the individual buildings and the surrounding area it owns! edit:u hav to mark the undeveloped land with green just like u have done oh okay.... mark green with the space which is free and undeveloped. and blues are the buildings.. hmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkola bellic,Belgrade,Serbia Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 (edited) jesus, now im REALLY confused, one says i need to mark every single object(building) other says i need to mark whole block i gonna get a rest for a whole day then. u dont need to mark the block just the individual buildings and the surrounding area it owns! edit:u hav to mark the undeveloped land with green just like u have done oh okay.... mark green with the space which is free and undeveloped. and blues are the buildings.. hmm You did great on newest pic As i said x times have addresses in mind,like when imyour building yard or in front you are still technically on building address It is correct,green is for undeveloped land not blocks Doing it right And no need to mark ONLY building but a small area which belong to its address,get it? btw your forum (Vallana Vetra Software Forums) always shakes around on my monitor... its weird... sometimes it even blocks some text or videos by shaking. Strange but probably due to animated backgroun there .Will probably be fixed soon! hey i got an idea..wud it be possible to add a stock trading miinigame near the bawsaq? like the atms??? Vetra already have Stock in ind he will work something out Edited March 15, 2009 by Nikkola bellic,Belgrade,Serbia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark008 Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 yes... probably cuz of animated background... cuz out of nowhere there appears some guy on screen, i move mouse on him and he disappears, weird stuff ur site must be paranormal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkola bellic,Belgrade,Serbia Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 (edited) yes... probably cuz of animated background... cuz out of nowhere there appears some guy on screen, i move mouse on him and he disappears, weird stuff ur site must be paranormal... Yes you right .now you will be bound to worship th Devil....foreever HHAHAHA whatever Seriously did you get it? one marking is property{like address] plus everything that is technically part of it[yard,entrance] You did great on newest pic icon14.gif icon14.gif icon14.gif As i said x times have addresses in mind,like when in your building yard or in front you are still technically on building address icon14.gif icon14.gif icon14.gif It is correct,green is for undeveloped land not blocks icon14.gif Doing it right cookie.gif And no need to mark ONLY building but a small area which belong to its address,get it? INTERACTIVE GANGS-BUY ABLE ASSETS WITH INTERIORS-REVISED POLICE AND CRIME SYSTEM-REALISM-TON FEATURES-LATER EVEN MISSIONS!-MAP EDITOR! so ppls help us You got that right ! Edited March 15, 2009 by Nikkola bellic,Belgrade,Serbia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark008 Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 ok heres example how i make it at the moment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkola bellic,Belgrade,Serbia Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 (edited) ok heres example how i make it at the moment... That should be perfect!Hold on... Yes it is great .You understand!Like properties and addresses.Good Only you should try to neaten it up just a little Lag on site has been fixed now! Fell free to post there as well as here what area will you work on! Edited March 15, 2009 by Nikkola bellic,Belgrade,Serbia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark008 Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 (edited) ok heres example how i make it at the moment... That should be perfect!Hold on... hold on? ok im holdin till u answer... that turqoise-cyan color is the territory of the building... for example that Museum is in the territory of central park. if theres GlobeOil with Storages, theyre all together in same territory (cyan square). :] is that ok? but those skyscrapers and other buildings wont have turqoise/cyan squares. only business will. Edited March 15, 2009 by mark008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkola bellic,Belgrade,Serbia Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 that turqoise-cyan color is the territory of the building... for example that Museum is in the territory of central park. if theres GlobeOil with Storages, theyre all together in same territory (cyan square). :] is that ok? but those skyscrapers and other buildings wont have turqoise/cyan squares. only business will. That should be perfect!Hold on... Yes it is great .You understand!Like properties and addresses.Good Only you should try to neaten it up just a little Lag on site has been fixed now! Fell free to post there as well as here what area will you work on! Dont think that you should add cyan for anything Other is fine just try to keep it neater Later we will see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkola bellic,Belgrade,Serbia Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 ok heres example how i make it at the moment... That should be perfect!Hold on... hold on? ok im holdin till u answer... that turqoise-cyan color is the territory of the building... for example that Museum is in the territory of central park. if theres GlobeOil with Storages, theyre all together in same territory (cyan square). :] is that ok? but those skyscrapers and other buildings wont have turqoise/cyan squares. only business will. That should be perfect!Hold on... Yes it is great .You understand!Like properties and addresses.Good Only you should try to neaten it up just a little Lag on site has been fixed now! http://forums.vallanavetra.com/software/vi...9&t=23&start=20 Fell free to post there as well as here what area will you work on! Dont think that you should add cyan for anything Other is fine just try to keep it neater Later we will see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark008 Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 what means Neat? and thanks!, http://forums.vallanavetra.com/software/vi...9&t=23&start=20 forum works great now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkola bellic,Belgrade,Serbia Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 Ne seriously try to make it liitle more precise Forum works great now ,enyone interested can pop in! http://forums.vallanavetra.com/software/viewforum.php?f=7 Everyone is waiting for a new version, but there cannot be one without this data.VERY simple! Else you won't see ANY changes. This data MAKES THE MOD WORK. So we NEED it. Come on, this is the biggest GTA4 mod project to date, you can at least try to help out. If you want to help with this project, please leave a message in this forum: http://forums.vallanavetra.com/software/viewforum.php?f=34 And we will guide you from there if you are confused about how to help. So come on everyone .This really is Biggest project possible for GTA4.Post there or at least give support and ideas! and check,we need feedback!!! INTERACTIVE GANGS-BUY ABLE ASSETS WITH INTERIORS-REVISED POLICE AND CRIME SYSTEM-REALISM-TON FEATURES-LATER EVEN MISSIONS!-MAP EDITOR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark008 Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 Ne seriously try to make it liitle more precise Forum works great now ,enyone interested can pop in! http://forums.vallanavetra.com/software/viewforum.php?f=7 Everyone is waiting for a new version, but there cannot be one without this data.VERY simple! Else you won't see ANY changes. This data MAKES THE MOD WORK. So we NEED it. Come on, this is the biggest GTA4 mod project to date, you can at least try to help out. If you want to help with this project, please leave a message in this forum: http://forums.vallanavetra.com/software/viewforum.php?f=34 And we will guide you from there if you are confused about how to help. So come on everyone .This really is Biggest project possible for GTA4.Post there or at least give support and ideas! and check,we need feedback!!! INTERACTIVE GANGS-BUY ABLE ASSETS WITH INTERIORS-REVISED POLICE AND CRIME SYSTEM-REALISM-TON FEATURES-LATER EVEN MISSIONS!-MAP EDITOR! "Encumberence Progress: need to extend the play controller more This works with the maximum load system. If Niko carries too much, he will become emcumbered. He will fall over, walk slower etc. - Not sure id slower walking is possible yet" there should be ability, because in San Andreas you could walk VERY slow, slow, normal, and a bit like jog speed,etc, using Joystick. but now im gonna relax from this.... i know im lazy but ill be back at making these, at the moment i create squares for 2nd island(2 little islands with it are done). so, hope all people took other islands... yes im planning to finish whole 2nd island. 1/5 of it is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkola bellic,Belgrade,Serbia Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 Ne seriously try to make it liitle more precise Forum works great now ,enyone interested can pop in! http://forums.vallanavetra.com/software/viewforum.php?f=7 Everyone is waiting for a new version, but there cannot be one without this data.VERY simple! Else you won't see ANY changes. This data MAKES THE MOD WORK. So we NEED it. Come on, this is the biggest GTA4 mod project to date, you can at least try to help out. If you want to help with this project, please leave a message in this forum: http://forums.vallanavetra.com/software/viewforum.php?f=34 And we will guide you from there if you are confused about how to help. So come on everyone .This really is Biggest project possible for GTA4.Post there or at least give support and ideas! and check,we need feedback!!! INTERACTIVE GANGS-BUY ABLE ASSETS WITH INTERIORS-REVISED POLICE AND CRIME SYSTEM-REALISM-TON FEATURES-LATER EVEN MISSIONS!-MAP EDITOR! "Encumberence Progress: need to extend the play controller more This works with the maximum load system. If Niko carries too much, he will become emcumbered. He will fall over, walk slower etc. - Not sure id slower walking is possible yet" there should be ability, because in San Andreas you could walk VERY slow, slow, normal, and a bit like jog speed,etc, using Joystick. but now im gonna relax from this.... i know im lazy but ill be back at making these, at the moment i create squares for 2nd island(2 little islands with it are done). so, hope all people took other islands... yes im planning to finish whole 2nd island. 1/5 of it is done. Yes I hope we make diferent speed feature based on ecomberance and stamina Just post updates to see if its good But i think it will be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikobellic91 Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 INTERACTIVE GANGS-BUY ABLE ASSETS WITH INTERIORS-REVISED POLICE AND CRIME SYSTEM-REALISM-TON FEATURES-LATER EVEN MISSIONS!-MAP EDITOR! come on u people help us!!! u wil enjoy it wen it comes out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkola bellic,Belgrade,Serbia Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 INTERACTIVE GANGS-BUY ABLE ASSETS WITH INTERIORS-REVISED POLICE AND CRIME SYSTEM-REALISM-TON FEATURES-LATER EVEN MISSIONS!-MAP EDITOR!come on u people help us!!! u wil enjoy it wen it comes out I have an idea that I would love (if you aren't already gonna implement it) to have in GTA-4 which is longer fires after an explosion. I think the car should burn much longer (maybe burns out after 24 in-game hours or something) so that you can have the fire department put it out - which brings me to my next idea - working firemen, currently if you call out the FD they just say it was a prank call even if there is a fire and then they drive off. It'd be nice if you could somehow make them functional and actually put out the fire like in the previous games of the series. Some similar things are planed like realistic fire I think,not sure about rest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vetra Posted March 15, 2009 Author Share Posted March 15, 2009 could make car shop not just as business interest, but as a real shop too where you could buy custom car, choose color, modifications, nitro/without... etc. and after u got what u wanted, ull get "organizer" on phone which will say for example "your new car will arrive to the shop from shipment in Saturday 6:00 PM". Yes, we are already planning this. You should read the discussion forums on my site, and the previous posts in this topic (here: http://forums.vallanavetra.com/software/viewforum.php?f=11) about nitro... heh i know theres no effects for it, but remember when turbo car (SultanRS) drives, ull see those fires getting outta... maybe if make turbo fire appear repeately(30 times fire outta in 3 seconds? without turbo sounds)? i think it could cause lagging, but who knows still an unused idea. I will see what effects I can make P.S. Those maps i showed, not all properties are marked, why? because some are just houses which dont really give interest (lets say theyre under control of GOV.) We need to have ALL properties marked, including government/state owned buildings like police stations, hospitals etc. AND private buildings like houses. Remember, GOV/POLICE will be a faction too! So they also need to have properties! i marked only those which i saw IN-GAME having tattoo parlors, markets, "car repairs", gas station, etc. thats why it took me long to make those maps full of squares Don't do this YET. We will mark specific buildings when we get to stage 3. (That is when we will say that a property is a house, and must have house interiors... or... a property is a shop and must have shop interiors) that is marking 'attributes'. But don't worry about that yet and other reason i didnt mark all is because it'll be crazy to own every single building which exist in-game? and get one million by every 24 hour... It's not ALL for YOU to own Remember, there are lots of other people in the city Gangs will own some properties... police will own their police stations... business competitors will own shops... civilians will own the rest. Remember, damaging a faction's property causes them to lose money So I have my reasons for doing this. FIrst many will be state owned,you cant own residential buildings Yes you can buy a house. But only if people will sell it to you. still stupid even if sober.... sorry guys ill just stop working on it... im an natural idiot... Don't worry man I should have given clear instructions btw i am the 3rd pr of vetra.. Are you? I didn't know yet If you want to be a PR, then I will discuss it with you PM me about this. (Use the PM on my site. This mailbox is always full ) btw your forum (Vallana Vetra Software Forums) always shakes around on my monitor... its weird... sometimes it even blocks some text or videos by shaking... I fixed this if u buy a block u own the area around it right? thats the logic A block is a group of properties that are surrounded by roads. A block can have one property, or many properties. So we must NOT mark blocks because that will not tell us much. See my image at the bottom. edit:u hav to mark the undeveloped land with green just like u have done Don't worry about the colours A property is a property, whether it has a skyscraper on it, or a business, or a house, or nothing (aka, an undeveloped property). _________________________ I hope this helps to clear some things up... I need the properties to be marked. Once people understand 100%, then we will get them all marked in a few days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warclaw Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 Can i join? i have now make a real new york mod with parked cars all over the world! but how i change i have replace 71 cars in IV now and no one adds no more!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkola bellic,Belgrade,Serbia Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 Can i join? i have now make a real new york mod with parked cars all over the world! but how i change i have replace 71 cars in IV now and no one adds no more!!! Of COURSE!!!!!more then welcome to,as we said ,always looking for people like you which actually want to help on at least simpiest things We could maybe join mods,dont know details about it? I am sure Vetra will know the answer to that question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark008 Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 thx Vetra! u gave nice description about whats Propety, Building or Block, i thought block is just an square around single house... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkola bellic,Belgrade,Serbia Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 thx Vetra! u gave nice description about whats Propety, Building or Block, i thought block is just an square around single house... lol I hope that this i clearer with this explanation Vetra posted Can i join? i have now make a real new york mod with parked cars all over the world! but how i change i have replace 71 cars in IV now and no one adds no more!!! Of COURSE!!!!!more then welcome to,as we said ,always looking for people like you which actually want to help on at least simpiest things We could maybe join mods,dont know details about it? I am sure Vetra will know the answer to that question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warclaw Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 do you have LIVE? ADD ME [email protected]! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkola bellic,Belgrade,Serbia Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 (edited) do you have LIVE? ADD ME [email protected]! Ahh..sorry no I don't,but I am pretty sure Vetra or someone else does through :)Say about your mod.Would you like to join? You are morethan welcome if so Everyone is waiting for a new version, but there cannot be one without this data.VERY simple! Else you won't see ANY changes. This data MAKES THE MOD WORK. So we NEED it. Come on, this is the biggest GTA4 mod project to date, you can at least try to help out. If you want to help with this project, please leave a message in this forum: http://forums.vallanavetra.com/software/viewforum.php?f=34 And we will guide you from there if you are confused about how to help. So come on everyone .This really is Biggest project possible for GTA4.Post there or at least give support and ideas! and check,we need feedback!!! INTERACTIVE GANGS-BUY ABLE ASSETS WITH INTERIORS-REVISED POLICE AND CRIME SYSTEM-REALISM-TON FEATURES-LATER EVEN MISSIONS!-MAP EDITOR! Here is how it should done.I got it wrongfirst and done pink,but it SHOULD be resized to black borders[more precise through ] Edited March 15, 2009 by Nikkola bellic,Belgrade,Serbia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark008 Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 heh, alright, sorry guys i wasnt here, i had awful day today... damn.. dont even wanna talk about it, anyway i can now continue my work (sorry this day i wasnt working on this :S ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkola bellic,Belgrade,Serbia Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 heh, alright, sorry guys i wasnt here, i had awful day today... damn.. dont even wanna talk about it, anyway i can now continue my work (sorry this day i wasnt working on this :S ) What happen ,man?kidding,you dont have to tell Chec this map even I got it wrong the fist time But should correct it to fit BLACK borders,I think but more precise ,I dwaw those lines in 10 secs You done anything? Check Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark008 Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 no man, this day i didnt do much progress, im sorry, ill start tomorrow to continue, and today as much as i can... i has no much time today left.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkola bellic,Belgrade,Serbia Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 (edited) no man, this day i didnt do much progress, im sorry, ill start tomorrow to continue, and today as much as i can... i has no much time today left.. Me neither Doesnt matter ,just say if you still dont get something From forum discussion - 1. Lupisela family - delivering weapons to liberty city, every bussines at bohan is under protection of this family, selling guns to spanish gangs at bohan 2. Spanish lords - selling drugs, prostitution, robberies 3. Jamaicans - selling drugs at meadow hills 4. Cubans - selling drugs, prostitution at willis, smuggling people 5. Gambetti family - owns whole port at broker, delivering and selling drugs, stolen cars, have north broker under protection 6. Angles - motorcycle gang, heists, assasinations 7. Mafyia - southern broker, prostitution, drugs, robberies, assasinations 8. M.O.B. - firefly projects, prostitution, stealing cars, selling drugs and guns 9. Messina family - dukes, bussines protection, disposing of evidence, hazard games, illegal fights and races 10. Pegorinos - Leftwood, bussines protection, prostitution, money laundring, illegal bussines of all king 11. Jews- jewelery and diamonds bussines, robberies 12. Beggers Gang - under control of Pavanos and pays them money, murders 13. Pavano Family - westdyke, drug bussines, smuggling, bussines protection 14. Puertoricans - bercham, drug bussines, prostitution, robberies 15. Yakuza - normandy, smuggling people, selling guns and drugs, assasinations, hazard games 16. Ancellotis - acter, selling stolen cars, bussines with human organs 17. The Lost - motorcycle gang, hijacking, heists, robberies 18. Koreans - tudor, smuggling people, stolen cars, protection money from citizens 19. Columbian Cartel - acter, producing drugs, owns drug factory, selling drugs, smuggling drugs 20. Uptown riders - have gangs almost over whole Algoquin, selling drugs, prostitution, selling guns 21. Northholland hustlers - bussines protection, selling drugs and guns, prostitution 22. Albanians - runs white meat market, bussines with organs, assasinations 23. The Company - assasinations, control LCPD, delivering weapons, hijacking people, protection of dirty bussines 24. Irish mob - making explosives, heists, robberies, stolen cars, 25. Easholland hustlers - selling drugs and weapons, robberies, heists 26. Triads - selling fake clothes, , producing drugs, organizing illegal fights, smuggling people Edited March 15, 2009 by Nikkola bellic,Belgrade,Serbia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark008 Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 theres 26 factions??? WOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkola bellic,Belgrade,Serbia Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 theres 26 factions??? WOW We are still dicussing what exacly and where those gang swill be I had even more in mind like Germans Serbians Vietnamese... @Everyone Feel free to add if you think of something,.....who knows maybe just your idea gets done;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark008 Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 yo know.... thatll be biggest amount of factions in all game history i think, lol. problem is that if they all fight for territory....... it'll be kinda insane... and 26 factions to create takes huge amount of time... id suggest to leave best ones(i think koreans dont fit there for example, but Pegorinos, Russian Mafia, Ancelottis, The Lost, Uptown, Angels of Death, Irish Mob, etc etc. fit there, cuz they exist originally ingame) anyway.... lol i gotta go sleep bye all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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