Spuds725 Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 (edited) Just thought I'd share this for those going for the times for Fly the Co-op trophy/achievement... Updated 9/13/09-- after about 7 months of practice from my original runs... lots of strategy refining... this is not done yet... will work on as time permits... 2 Player Method I know one of the biggest pains for doing this is getting the bikers to spawn in the boat while doing 2 player-- while this makes it easier, it does not make it impossible to get the time. I know some people know this stuff but I've yet to see a good guide showing this and compiling different things... (other then -- which only allows for the boat spawn. You don't have to follow the drive/fly strategy if you don't like-- if you utilize 007crafts strategy, the land spawn cutoffs will still work.... I do recommend you select traffic to parked and peds to off either way as this does seem to affect the helicopter spawning or not-- I don't think I've ever had it not spawn with those settings. For game setting I use the following-- -2 Player -Time of day- midday -Weather-clear -Reticule health-on (so you know you've killed someone and not just knocked them down) -Traffic- Parked (will speed up the drive-- see below) -Peds- Off I've done this mission alot the last several months, first getting my trophy and then doing it with others to get their trophies. I have managed to get the time on with all spawn locations (without mics or headsets) 1. Clear the building fast 2. Have a good heli pilot who knows where to land to cut them off (in front of the bikers)... For #1, I've managed to speed this up a bit by having one of the players drive, while the other flies...you both will arrive at about the same time. The Driver should take the car that is outside-- I've found that if the host of the game watches the cutscene at the start of the mission until the car spawns in the back ground, that it will be there when the mission starts-- this will save about 15 seconds off the end (see flier part below). To get on the highway follow this route Get on highway fast Then drive off the highway at this spot Drive off highway You just drive it straight off a full throttle (when in the air you can sort of control your "flight"-- let go of the throttle and use your turn stick to help glide you00you will land near the bend of the road and then it is a straight shot west to the deal breaker building-- you can normally land on your wheels but not always... if you end up on your roof just get out and run the rest-- doesn't take too long. The flier should run into the garage and grab the car on the left (west) right away and drive it and turn left so it is parked in the garage up against the divider between the 2 doors, this will prop both doors open (this allows you to fly into the garage at the end at high speed to end the mission). Get out and get in the passenger side of the other car to get in the other car the fastest. It takes about 6 extra seconds to park the car and get in the other car, you make more then this up at the end and it only affects the flier at the start. The flier should driver out and make a hard left around the side of the house and head immediately north... toward the back of the house... there is a small wall back there, turn left at the last second and you will jump it... this is a bit tricky and you will land on your roof sometimes... drive north to the first corner turn right and you will approach the house with the heli... grab heli and fly to the site... keep as low as possible.... as you approach the site, fly under the highway and stay low-- as you get close, let off the throttle pull back and you will decellerate and rise up high enough to land on the roof quickly. (I'll make a vid of this soon to show all this) Having someone drive and the other fly does 2 things, it seems to make more bikers spawn on the ground level (when the driver arrives first) and these are easier to clear IMO then inside the building As the driver I usually will work around the N. side of the building, getting everyone on the N. side (there will be quite a few) including all the bad guys you can reach on the 2nd floor from the ground then work up to the 3rd level sweeping each level to collect each card dropped-- you should encounter your partner on either the 3rd or 4th floor and be clearing up any stragglers/cards. To have a shot at the time, you have to have the building cleared before the 5 minute point-- the faster the better. The flyer should sweep the upper levels with one player then with two as there are always just 7 bad guys on the top 2 levels and all can be reached from the roof (you can shoot the leve 6 guys from the top level-- they are always in the same places-- when you do shoot down at them, be careful not to miss any packages dropped-- these are hard to see some times. Nobody on the 5th (but there is a rocket launcher near the stairs on the east side you might want to grab-- there are 2 rocket launchers on the 5th floor and 2 more on the fourth-- you need to grab at least 1 of them (picks up 3)-- if you die, you get to keep these so don't waste time picking them up again if this happens- work down to the 4th floor-- I normally clear the 4th floor working from the east-- as you go down the stairs, stop half way down and you can shoot 4 bad guys from this spot (2 are close to you, 2 are to the west and you will shoot them over the obstructions-- there are only 2 other guys on this floor (6 total)-- if the driver is a bit slow, go down to level 3 and shoot a few of the stragglers-- but give yourself time to head back up top to grab the heli before the last guy and package are clear-- if you both have mics, and they are down to 1 package or one guy left to kill-- tell them to hold off until you get up to the roof (if you don't have mics-- the "driver" should just wait and listen for the heli blades to start spinning up before doing this-- when on the roof, they can pick it up or kill the bad guy and you will have time to get in the heli and fly down to the quay to shoot the boat with the rocket launcher (if you get this spawn)-- if you get one of the land spawns-- fly to the cut offs immediately land far enough in front that you have time to get out and shoot them-- use rockets on the van, AK for the bikers.... The driver should have ran or jumped down to the ground level when the building is clear-- you can jump from the 3rd level and survive if you have sufficient health-- you can jump from the 2nd without any loss of health. If you get the boat spawn-- head to the quay (corner)-- get in the heli and spin up the blades as the flyer shoots the boat with the rocket launcher so you can immediately take off when he gets in. If you get one of the land spawns head down to the bikes/cars and drive to the cut offs-- you will arrive about the time the flier takes them out and is back in the heli-- get in and fly back.... .. fly back to the house and come in low and hot and straight and fly into the garage door you propped open earlier- this will end the mission if you land it right-- takes some practice... Here are the escaping biker bike cut offs Spawn Location #1 In the above, the spawn location is near the dot on the left, the cut off point is on the right-- you will land behind the police station there in the green area... kill the bikers as they make the turn to your south... rocket launcher is best for the van, rifles for bikes IMO... --- Spawn Location #2 In the above, the bikers will spawn near the right dot, drive up the ramp up onto the highway ... just land on the highway in front of them and wait.. -- Spawn Location #3 In the above, the bikers will spawn near the lower dot, fly to the upper dot and land if you have the van spawn-- if you get the bikes spawn, they turn right after crossing the bridge head east for a bit and then turn left and head up the ramp to the highway heading toward down town-- if you get going early enough you can cut them off on the bridge, if you are a bit late-- fly up to the top of the ramp and wait for them. The above for 2 player has been re-written 3 and 4 player below has not been ( as of 9/16/09) ********** 3 Player Strategy (added 4/26/09) I've played this alot helping others get trophies and I'm now of the opinion that 3 player Deal Breaker is easier then 2 player. IMO 2 player method above is probably easier without mics, but 3 player with at least 2 players having mics seems to be easier to get it in fewer runs, mainly because you can clear the building so much faster. With 2 players it is pretty difficult to clear the building in under 5 minutes. Playing with DeeJay and an inexperienced 3rd person last night, we cleared the building in just under 3:40, giving us over 3 minutes to chase down and return to the safe house-- we ended up with a 6:22-- perhaps playing with a superb player like Deejay was the key-- I've done it in one run with him and a 3rd player twice now. For 3 player, I advocate one player flying there and working from the top down, 2 players driving there and working from the bottom up... the top down player should clear all the levels down to 4 (always 4 "badguys" on roof, 3 on 6th, none on 5th (get rocked launcher on 5th east side) and about 5 guys on the 4th) and then go back to the roof to the chopper-- the ground-up players... one should take out everyone on the ground area and the other should immediately head up to the 2nd floor.. they should clear the ground and 2nd about the same time and then clear the 3rd together. The "flyer" player should be in the chopper when the bikers spawn and if you get the water spawn, immediately fly down to the quay and take out the boat with the rocket launcher... Deejay has actually landed on the blown up boat to the west before they spawn and taken them out from there (where he is closer) so he can get them sooner-- I'm not sure how difficult it is to land out there with the slanted deck. If you get the (go up on) highway spawn (no water spawn), fly up there immediately and cut them off-- if in the chopper early you can cut them off and take them out at the top of the ramp heading up to the highway... The 2 "ground" guys should drive toward the "north" and "east" spawn points-- as you take essentially the same route... UNLESS you get a water and HIGHWAY spawn-- in which case they should head up to the highway (first right after exiting the deal breaker site)-- For the East spawn point you can cut them off... for north one, you end up chasing them down-- you cannot cut them off on a ground route-- if you drive a car and drive over the "closed" bridge, you can maybe cut off the north spawn-- I've never tried as I always take a bike--- they just seem faster-- the bike can't "break" through the fence to take the bridge. For the last few runs with Deejay-- he actually took out both sets of bikers... 1. We had a Water spawn and highway spawn... he took out the boat fast and was able to land in front of the bikers on the highway and take them out about the time we had chased them down on ground... we just got in and rode back with him... in this one he had landed on the ship to take out the boat. 2 We had a highway and North spawn... he flew up, cut off the highway bikers at the top of the ramp. Then flew ahead (about a block north of Honkers) and cut off the van there blowing them up right after we caught up to them. 3 or 4 Player "Quit" Strategy -- An altnernate method is "kind of" cheating but will work to complete deal breaker in time-- this will require some sacrifice by your team mates and will need some co-ordination among players (mics/headsets). On 3 player deal breaker, you will get 2 sets of biker spawns. It seems like most of the time one of them will be the water spawn, can be done with or without though. 3 players should be able to clear the building significantly faster-- one person should take off on a motorcycle as soon as the building is clear and procede to the intercept points. The other 2 should use the helicopter and take out the boat or one of the other spawn point bikers... the person on the bike will take out the other and as long as the people in the heli are on track to return to the start point on time, the person on the bike will quit the game allowing the other 2 to finish the mission. (I have verified this method and it worked in one try) The above can also be done with 4 player although there will be 3 sets of bikers spawning.. which can be a bit more complicated-- 2 players would be quitting. Thanks to Superjude and DeeJay for some of the info on the above (kind of copy of the Noose quit bug) I've only done (some) of these on PS3.... so cannot verify the above will work on other platforms... Once again, it is important to not fly over the bikers when flying to the cut off points as it will only make them drive faster. Hope this helps someone-- I would not expect this guide to help you instantly pass the mission, it takes practice learning how to clear the building fast and as you know, anything can go wrong with these missions. Thanks to 007Craft for producing that video, Famine (at gtplanet.net) for helping me work out the driving/flying thing and to Druton (at GTAForums.com) for being such a great heli pilot (I used to think I was pretty good) and showing me how you can cut off the fleeing bikers relatively fast-- I've varied slightly from his cutoff points to save a bit more time. Thanks also to Superjude/DeeJay for the Deal breaker strategies for 3 and 4 player. Edited December 13, 2009 by Spuds725 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/399488-deal-breaker-guide/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Obvis456 Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 I'll verify that it's exactly the same on the PC version. The thing that gets me sometimes is the jump off the highway. It seems like half the time I land on the roof and I gotta run to the building. That and the heli only spawns about half the time also. This is a great guide though, nice job. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/399488-deal-breaker-guide/?do=findComment&comment=1058997828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
floof Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 I have been trying and failing the last few days. I'll give this a shot Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/399488-deal-breaker-guide/?do=findComment&comment=1058997853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spuds725 Posted February 22, 2009 Author Share Posted February 22, 2009 (edited) It also helps to get a competent friend to partner up with-- and it takes some practice... Regarding the drive off-- I've had good luck (driving straight off), landed on my wheels several times, the times I've rolled, I've ended up back on my wheels again... the car didn't drive so well the rest of the way to the deal, but it got me there. I don't really care for driving off onto the building to the right-- but my partner (Famine) that drove in the runs where I flew, drove that way every time and didn't have alot of issues... Edited February 22, 2009 by Spuds725 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/399488-deal-breaker-guide/?do=findComment&comment=1058997924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry25 Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 I find it easier to have on person fly and the other drive to the land spawns. When I do it the person that will get the helicopter is already close to the roof when the bikers spawn and it takes too long for him to wait for the other. If the one taking the car is fast he should get to the bikers just about at the same time as the helicopter guy. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/399488-deal-breaker-guide/?do=findComment&comment=1058998001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
explicitmo Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 After not getting this with 2 (caus the f*cking boat will never spawn ) I tried it with 3 people last night. We were 2 times like 20-30 secs. above the limit! I'm f*ckin' pissed of that mission meanwhile... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/399488-deal-breaker-guide/?do=findComment&comment=1058998818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJude™ Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Might give this a go today. Came really close on BDB yesterday with 3 people but that one is kind of hit or miss, sometimes we're close, sometimes we're at 10 minutes. Deal Breaker seems more linear, even with the spawns, so long as you have the chopper? Anyway, great guide Spuds, I'll be certain to have this page open on the laptop when I give this a try! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/399488-deal-breaker-guide/?do=findComment&comment=1058999086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spuds725 Posted February 22, 2009 Author Share Posted February 22, 2009 (edited) I did BDB II with Famine and several others-- our method was a bit unique in that we land the heli (with 3 or 4 people)-- on top of the bridge (you crash land-- come in very hot) and you sort of get the heli stuck againts that big mast but the heli gets stuck inside the cables going up to this... so it lands real quick... We have 2 or 3 people take out the bridge crew, one person jumps down to the main deck in several steps by going toward the back of the ship on the west side-- then heads north and glitches into the hold... we got a 4:14 using this method which is currently # 141in the rankings Famine and I were almost able to do it with 2 player-- if I could just take out the bridge crew by myself-- I suck at that part. Superjude, if you want to try the above method-- add me PSN:Spuds725 I will fly the heli, you take out the bridge crew-- I'll set the lower bomb I prefer to drive the car too unless you consider yourself exceptional at that. If you have a 3rd or 4th player, that would probably help-- as you are screwed if the bridge guy gets shot. Settings-- traffic to off, reticule health on, midday, clear. This should obviously be done in private match on PS3 due to the drop bug... We ignored the GPS on north side spawns and take the following route back-- faster/easier/alot less turns... Click here to view the SnapMap Edited February 22, 2009 by Spuds725 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/399488-deal-breaker-guide/?do=findComment&comment=1058999450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
explicitmo Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 BDB is even easier when U use the glitch to the lower bomb... there is a vid on youtube that shows what I mean, but I can't link y'all up from my PS3 ATM. Did it with 2 people, I left my fella out on the boat and then jumped out the heli on the boat's bridge. We finished it with almost 2 min. left on the clock like this. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/399488-deal-breaker-guide/?do=findComment&comment=1059000209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristopherD Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Have never done ANY of the coop missions, but this soulnds like a serious challenge...just never wanted to go in and f*ck up someone elses match... am kinda getting tired of DM, TDM & races...will have to give this a try now that I know what the hell to do! Nice job! They should make it sticky over at the tips & tricks forum! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/399488-deal-breaker-guide/?do=findComment&comment=1059000598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Obvis456 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Hey SPuds just got this today. I'm Valcore. Me and Jaca flying and Martin driving. Lower guy usually get all the money. Also what I think you do at the bridge on BTB2 is to get in cover and lob a grenade or 2 into the bridge. That always kills the guy in there and then you can go in and plant the bomb. Also isn't it easier to send all the other guys into the bottom of the ship and then hover the heli outside of the bridge and then bail out? That way you only have to kill 1 guy outside ( or you can get him with the heli blades) the cabin and then lob the grenades inside. I usually do the lower one, but with the guys I play with I am pretty sure that's the way they do it. Not 100% but pretty sure. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/399488-deal-breaker-guide/?do=findComment&comment=1059001441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJude™ Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Spuds - just a heads up, I requested you on "that" account because it's the one I beat the game on and am doing all the trophies on. I work weird hours so I game weird hours but if we hook up that would be cool. Did Deal Breaker earlier with MrJohn (tried one game) and had I not smashed the chopper blades landing on the top floor, I think we'd have come really close as we were under 7 minutes when he killed the guys on the boat but we had to take a vehicle back instead of flying. Boat spawn is ridiculously easy! As for BDBII, all I can say is most people are idiots or they suck. I tried 3 times earlier with 3 random crews of people and each time I ended up being the one to kill the driver in the truck AND plant both explosives. In one, the guy who stole the chopper before I could grab it landed next to the boat, so I waited till they all got out, took the chopper and did the mission myself. I can clear BDBII in just over 10 minutes when doing it myself (with 3 teammates doing...not certain what exactly, and this was 3 different crews of people!) so doing this in under 5:30 should be infinitely doable. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/399488-deal-breaker-guide/?do=findComment&comment=1059001489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spuds725 Posted February 23, 2009 Author Share Posted February 23, 2009 Hey SPuds just got this today. I'm Valcore. Me and Jaca flying and Martin driving. Lower guy usually get all the money.Also what I think you do at the bridge on BTB2 is to get in cover and lob a grenade or 2 into the bridge. That always kills the guy in there and then you can go in and plant the bomb. Also isn't it easier to send all the other guys into the bottom of the ship and then hover the heli outside of the bridge and then bail out? That way you only have to kill 1 guy outside ( or you can get him with the heli blades) the cabin and then lob the grenades inside. I usually do the lower one, but with the guys I play with I am pretty sure that's the way they do it. Not 100% but pretty sure. Congrats on getting that with 3 player-- we've been bouncing around a method on trying to get it with 4 player-- 2 drive, and 2 fly (seperate helis)-- either get the North heli to respawn or fly to the one parked over the booth tunnel entrance and pick up that one While I have a mic/headset... the people I've played with don't, and I'm afraid there would be too many variables to stick with any plan (as well as trying to get a game scheduled as the group on gtplanet.net I've played with to get the trophies span 3 continents)-- Famine from england I've known online for about 4 or 5 years. Regarding BDB II -- I've seen that way done and it works but if the bridge guy gets killed or you don't jump out in the right spot, you are done. It literally takes about 10 seconds to jump down from the bridge level to the main deck-- and it is very rare for the lower guy to get killed-- yes this is utilizing the "glitch into the hold" trick which I guess you could consider cheating. I've screwed the bridge part up alot-- lobbed a grenade in that bounced back and blew me up or off the ship, shot, you name it--- why we started using at least 2 players at least up top-- I've gotten the time with 3 or 4 player-- almost with 2 if it were not for me screwing up the bridge part... Maybe I should take a video of my landing so you can see how much time you save-- I come in at full speed and crashland on top-- no hovering or dropping off or anything-- the heli gets stuck and stops-- we did try it the method you described but Famine said he could get down to the main deck faster doing it the other way. Until I figured out how to crash the heli right as it was hit and miss for a while--- you aim just to the right of the mast as you come in and then turn the heli to the left a bit as you crashland-- full sped to on the ship in about 3-4 seconds I'm not saying you can't do it that way-- I guess I'm a better heli crasher then flyer Even if you want to enter the hold the normal method, you and the others can get quickly get down to the main deck pretty fast from up top. @ Superjude-- I'll check my account-- realize unless you see me on IV I won't respond to any invite/message-- I leave my PS3 on alot for the Life w/Playstation-- Folding @ Home project (see link in my sig) BDB II attracts alot of griefers-- that and the drop bug makes it difficult to complete at all and nearly impossible to get in a public match-- I can't believe this bug has not been fixed after nearly 4 months of giving it to us-- as I think this is the reason it attracts so many griefers (they don't think they can pass the mission anyway) Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/399488-deal-breaker-guide/?do=findComment&comment=1059002871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejayb1874 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Kudos to Spuds for helping Jude and myself beat the BDBII time. You made it look ridiculously easy. Kudos removed from Jude for not landing WHERE I TOLD HIM TO! on Dealbreaker, giving us a time of 7.07. Cock tease and a half man... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/399488-deal-breaker-guide/?do=findComment&comment=1059003323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spuds725 Posted February 23, 2009 Author Share Posted February 23, 2009 (edited) No problem-- BDB II is relatively easy for me now (especially stopping the van part)-- getting it in one run was a surprise-- we could have shaved 20 seconds or more time on that if the van came back the Easy route-- sorry I screwed the boat (crash) landing but you guys bailed out well and took care of the bridge fine so it worked out (we got to the ship relatively fast so had plenty of time)-- we were very lucky me and the chopper didn't end up in the water. Deal breaker went relatively smooth for 3 player and only a few runs-- sorry we missed the time by so close.... (for others that are interested-- on that one we had 2 land spawns-- #1 and #2. I drove a bike to #1 and got them, they flew up on the highway and took care of those guys... I drove about 1/2 the distance to where they were and stopped as they approached-- they picked me up and we flew back just missed the time) You or Jude (whoever was flying) seemed to be a good pilot-- you picked me up pretty fast and you both seemed to be pretty good at clearing the building-- I doubt you guys (in 2 player) will have any problems getting it with some persistence and some luck. I've done the fly/upper clearing alot more then the lower so am a bit better at that. One of the 2 player runs I did last week we beat the time with a time of 7:02:16 (.84 below the cutoff)-- this was with a land spawn. For 3 player and a boat spawn I think we should have one person drive after them, one person shoot the boat-- pilot pick up the boat shooter, and then chase down the 3rd player/bikers. I did managed to drive a bike to the cutoff point #1 before they got there, I got there before the bikers turned the corner heading north-- on the one we almost got.... for the other two you will end up behind them no matter what... and it is harder to stop then when chasing them when in front of you-- not sure of the best method if you don't get a land spawns that is not #1-- probably not possible... best to ignore the GPS (if you set a waypoint) if you try to drive to the cutoff points. Driving to cut off #1 is shown here-- Drive to cutoff #1 -- I drove one of the bikes. Does anyone know if you still only get 2 sets of bikers spawning with 4 player or do you get 3?? I don't think I've ever done it with 4 player. Edited February 23, 2009 by Spuds725 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/399488-deal-breaker-guide/?do=findComment&comment=1059003607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJude™ Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Sorry guys! deejay - "land on the highway" me - "where?" deejay - "they highway man!" me - "where are they? Oh...sh*t!" deejay - "yeah man, land in front of them" me - "where...oh" And that cost us the 4 seconds we lost by. At least we know it shouldn't be too hard to do. Chopper + Bike for the 2 road spawns, foot + bike + chopper for the road/boat spawns. 7:07 was painful though! BDB, I couldn't believe we nailed it on the first try, even after me getting flipped over by the cop cars. Spuds, you're correct, crashing up top and all jumping out is the way to go, so long as at least one guy can clear out the top pretty quick and the others have no trouble glitching. Even without the glitch I can see this being fairly easy with the right crew. It helps if everybody is a decent shooter and driver. Worked like a charm, totally thrilled and thanks man! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/399488-deal-breaker-guide/?do=findComment&comment=1059003742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spuds725 Posted February 23, 2009 Author Share Posted February 23, 2009 No problem-- I'll try and grab a vid of the proper bridge (crash landing) and me jumping down so you can see how fast it is to get down to the glitch point that way--- not that you need to do it again That was the 2nd time I got that with a group in one run-- I had Famine with me last time though and we did it with 4 player in 4:40-- 3 players up top, and Famine planted the lower bomb. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/399488-deal-breaker-guide/?do=findComment&comment=1059003783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJude™ Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I would not expect this guide to help you instantly pass the mission, it takes practice learning how to clear the building fast and as you know, anything can go wrong with these missions. I think deejay and I experienced every possible "could go wrong" earlier, from trying to jump up the stairs and jumping over the side to hitting random wires trying to missing a keycard since one was directly under another and we only could see one on the map. Etc. Came close again, just a couple seconds off and we seem to be able to get right around 7:10 - 7:15 without too much effort. The car and chopper should both make the site at around 1:45 - 1:50 minutes in and like Spuds said, you absolutely need to clear the building by 5 minutes. It seems to take just under a minute to fly from wherever you kill the bikers. So close I figure we'll get this once and from that point on be able to pretty much nail it on a consistent basis, if the desire is there to play this mode. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/399488-deal-breaker-guide/?do=findComment&comment=1059008462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammyman88 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 This should be useful. I have tried this heaps with a mate we were doing so good once, really good we would of bet the time but the boat didn't spawn. We lost by like two seconds. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/399488-deal-breaker-guide/?do=findComment&comment=1059008474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJude™ Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 The road spawns are still easy enough if you've got both guys close to the top and know the spawn locations. We finally got one down and then started getting the other spawn location before calling it quits, but yeah, if you can both get in the chopper and on the move at about 5 minutes or so, there is still enough time to land, take out the bikers and head back. Of course, I was trying to drop grenades on them but this would seem to require too much concerted effort between the pilot and passenger, which would be a waste of time. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/399488-deal-breaker-guide/?do=findComment&comment=1059008486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangsterTripper Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Looky looky another f*cken guide. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/399488-deal-breaker-guide/?do=findComment&comment=1059008488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
explicitmo Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 If you give Deal Breaker another try Jude, invite me plz. It's the last one missing for me STILL! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/399488-deal-breaker-guide/?do=findComment&comment=1059008524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double_Deagle Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 If you give Deal Breaker another try Jude, invite me plz. It's the last one missing for me STILL! I'm in too... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/399488-deal-breaker-guide/?do=findComment&comment=1059008542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJude™ Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I'll be off work and online in about 5 hours from this post. I figure 2 or 3 players is the best way to go since I've been close with both numbers. Not certain how this would go with 4 players, but yeah this is the last one I need as well and once I have it, I'd be totally cool with helping other people get this! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/399488-deal-breaker-guide/?do=findComment&comment=1059008593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
explicitmo Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I'll be off work and online in about 5 hours from this post. I figure 2 or 3 players is the best way to go since I've been close with both numbers. Not certain how this would go with 4 players, but yeah this is the last one I need as well and once I have it, I'd be totally cool with helping other people get this! Same here... more like 6 hours though. Since you're located in the U.S. I'm kinda wondering what a dirty night shift job is robbing your sleep though. 2 people are real good when you are lucky enough to get the boat spawn... since that never seem to happen though, 3 people is probably better. Landing the heli on the top of the building where the enemies are in... with 2 people going down, cleaning the floors and one going with car from the start and killing people on the ground levels. Then one is going for the boat spawn, one is getting the heli on top (picking up the boat killer after the job is done) and one follows the bikers in a car, who will be picked up once the bikers are dead. Last time we tried it, we missed it in the last 3 trys by a few seconds aswell untill we gave up. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/399488-deal-breaker-guide/?do=findComment&comment=1059008628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double_Deagle Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I'll be off work and online in about 5 hours from this post. I figure 2 or 3 players is the best way to go since I've been close with both numbers. Not certain how this would go with 4 players, but yeah this is the last one I need as well and once I have it, I'd be totally cool with helping other people get this! Same here... more like 6 hours though. Since you're located in the U.S. I'm kinda wondering what a dirty night shift job is robbing your sleep though. 2 people are real good when you are lucky enough to get the boat spawn... since that never seem to happen though, 3 people is probably better. Landing the heli on the top of the building where the enemies are in... with 2 people going down, cleaning the floors and one going with car from the start and killing people on the ground levels. Then one is going for the boat spawn, one is getting the heli on top (picking up the boat killer after the job is done) and one follows the bikers in a car, who will be picked up once the bikers are dead. Last time we tried it, we missed it in the last 3 trys by a few seconds aswell untill we gave up. Yeah...and one time I smashed the heli at a lamp post... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/399488-deal-breaker-guide/?do=findComment&comment=1059008640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJude™ Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I find that it only takes one person to do the top level while due to key cards and the amount of dudes, it's better to start with 2 guys on the bottom working their way up and collecting cards. Of course, it could work just the same the opposite way since I seem to be able to clear out the first 2 or 3 levels in really rapid time. I'm totally open to experimenting with what works best since in the end it's all about killing the fleeing bikers before the 6 minute mark. Just need to shave off those critical extra seconds, seems like a few of us are coming REALLY close. ex - I work in video post production. Graveyard is when every single tv show colors and transferes what are called dailies. sh*t schedule, I mean horrible but I gotta say I do love my job! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/399488-deal-breaker-guide/?do=findComment&comment=1059008669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spuds725 Posted February 25, 2009 Author Share Posted February 25, 2009 (edited) I got it again yesterday with rjj22783 (PSN:Aerosol22783) -- he was in on our fast BDB II run (4:14) -- he flew, I drove-- then I flew back got about 6:45 or so -- he got his trophy. We surprisingly had the boat spawn all but 2 runs (did 9 or 10 runs)-- on most runs we were just late clearing the building, boat got past us on one fast building clear-- I did try to flip it with the heli (shown in 007crafts video) but couldn't get it. The upper levels are pretty easy-- 4 on the roof (7th) - one usually has a card-- sometimes 2. 3 on the 6th (one has a card)-- these are all on the west side, one guy by the SW stairs has a shot gun so avoid those stairs when going down to the 6th. 0 on the 5th If you guys want to try both flying-- one person should clear the roof, the other immediately go down the east stairs and take out the 6th floor guys (all near the west side)-- then you both pretty much go straight down to the 4th (one of the guys on the 6th by the stairs will drop a card so that needs to get grabbed)... I have found that those shotgun guys go up the stairs if you both fly-- but they don't seem to if one person drives-- maybe they go down or spawn on the ground floor when someone drives... Superjude-- if you want to give it a go in a few hours let me know-- I don't mind helping others but I prefer you have mic/headset-- mainly so we can work out strategy it is a pain to type out stuff between runs-- I don't want to waste alot of time-- so please practice a bit before giving it a go with me-- you need to hold up your side of the building clear-- its better to take a few extra seconds to sweep a level and collect cards then go back looking for them (especially when they are above one another). PSN: Spuds725 Be sure to put GTAF DB in the message. Realize I leave my PS3 on alot for the Folding @ Home project (link in my sig) -- so unless you see me in a game, its a waste to send me a message/invite. I'll be on about 6 pm GMT for about an hour, 10PM GMT for about an hour, and 3am GMT for about 2 hours today. Edited February 25, 2009 by Spuds725 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/399488-deal-breaker-guide/?do=findComment&comment=1059008994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJude™ Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Sorry to have missed a couple of you earlier, I was already engaged in beating this mode with MrJohn and deejay. Say word we nailed it, and when we did, it seemed so easy. It only took...a few tries We were so in sync deejay could see my jump and landing from the chopper, we rolled through all the bikers. deejay went for the boat spawn, MrJohn for the land spawn, I grabbed the chopper, picked up deejay, picked up John, done. I *think* we got it in under 7 minutes. Though I got NOOSE I think my game glitched after because I didn't get the trophy after beating Deal Breaker, and that was ridiculously easy with just deejay and myself, something under 2:20. Now maybe I'll go through the painful process of team mafia work and all the races. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/399488-deal-breaker-guide/?do=findComment&comment=1059009875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spuds725 Posted February 25, 2009 Author Share Posted February 25, 2009 congrats-- I have yet to beat it 3 player-- I would like to try it 4 player but that would take some serious coordination-- you get 3 sets of biker spawns.... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/399488-deal-breaker-guide/?do=findComment&comment=1059010031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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