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Athena

TLAD will make it to another platform IMHO

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beatnik11

 

I dont see why some fellow ps3 owners keep posting these sort of topics.

 

The only time we should have this mentioned again is if:

 

1. Info is leaked showing their may be a possibility of it being released to another platform.

 

2. A year has passed, nothing comes to PC or PS3 then the indenial people can finally realise they will not be able to play TLAD.

 

 

  Jesus f*cking christ.

 

It's like me paying someone one million dollars for a custom made ice cream flavor that is exclusive to my company. Do you expect the person who made that custom made ice cream to give it to another company for free? No, same thing with this situation.

 

Im a 360 owner and have no ps3. I think that there is a real possibility that it will get release for both ps3 and pc in a year or more time. Microsoft would have already made the real big money off of it already, more than enough to cover their investment. Once again, you really dont know what was agreed to in that contract, only that they will have exclusive rights when it comes out, not forever. It very well could be that R* only agree to the deal under certain conditions, its very possible that there is a sunset clause in that contract. I dont know and neither do you. Also, what kind of wacky assumption is it that they would just hand it over to sony for no money? They could strike a deal with them when the contract ends exclusivity (if it does) and even if they did just do it for free, its still to R* interest to maximize sales no matter which system. Either way they will still make money off of it, but M$ will be a big winner because they had such a head start

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PhilipO43
Unless you can prove it, you don't have much to stand on. All I read is conflicted conjection. Since Rockstar are the artists creating it, they have the true control, I feel MS in the capacity of a record label and RN are the recording artists.

In the music business, artists often get screwed, it's true, but they are the ones putting the DLC all together and Sam was interviewed IN THE PS3 GAMING magazines, which means they are CERTAINLY not dropping support of our machine

What's with the "our" machine..lol

 

And if you want to play TLAD so much Slamman, just fork over the $200 for a 360, and you won't need to worry about exclusives no more, will you?

 

And please don't say $200 is alot, iv'e seen numerious fanboys with 50+ titles, of which at least 10 are decent at best. $200 is the cost of 3 full games, so i won't buy into the 'i cannot afford both, argument'.

 

Personally, I have all three consoles(and a decent pc) and thankfully so. [i only buy the best of the best games and always put what little money i have into gaming hardware]

 

To be a one console owner, with all the great exclusives(including DLC's) already out and upcoming, is pure stupidity.

 

btw: MS announced these exclusive DLC's at E3 06' and any major GTA fan should have read up on it, and wisely bought a 360 and the 360 version at GTA:IV's release.

 

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Jackmackg

does any one read the credits? there is a mention of a "cross-platform programmer" or something like that. i would not worry about it.

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PhilipO43

 

I dont see why some fellow ps3 owners keep posting these sort of topics.

 

The only time we should have this mentioned again is if:

 

1. Info is leaked showing their may be a possibility of it being released to another platform.

 

2. A year has passed, nothing comes to PC or PS3 then the indenial people can finally realise they will not be able to play TLAD.

 

 

   Jesus f*cking christ.

 

It's like me paying someone one million dollars for a custom made ice cream flavor that is exclusive to my company. Do you expect the person who made that custom made ice cream to give it to another company for free? No, same thing with this situation.

 

Im a 360 owner and have no ps3. I think that there is a real possibility that it will get release for both ps3 and pc in a year or more time. Microsoft would have already made the real big money off of it already, more than enough to cover their investment. Once again, you really dont know what was agreed to in that contract, only that they will have exclusive rights when it comes out, not forever. It very well could be that R* only agree to the deal under certain conditions, its very possible that there is a sunset clause in that contract. I dont know and neither do you. Also, what kind of wacky assumption is it that they would just hand it over to sony for no money? They could strike a deal with them when the contract ends exclusivity (if it does) and even if they did just do it for free, its still to R* interest to maximize sales no matter which system. Either way they will still make money off of it, but M$ will be a big winner because they had such a head start

 

Exactly.

 

It may be time exclusive, say 12 months or more, but by that time so many non-360 owners who are GTA fans will be picking up the 360(especially after the 2nd DLC), not to mention the hype will have died off after all that time.

 

My gut feeling is the earliest you will see both these DLC's hit the PS3, is the fall of 2010'.

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GTA3Freak-2001

There is vested interest for both MS and R* here for these DLC to only be exclusive for a certain period of time because what might happen is MS and R* will release a Special Edition or Anthology of GTA IV that contains The Lost and Dammed and the Second Yet announced Episode on the 360 as well as the PS3. It would be idiotic for Take2/R* to allow their content to be owned by MS indefinitely. We all know how Rockstar pride themselves on their creativity in games so they'd be careful with their creative efforts I am sure.

 

The thing is we don't know what money was involved in past exclusive deals, that goes for any game series not just GTA. How do we know MS didn't slip Take 2 cash to have Bioshock exclusive to the 360? There would of been a contract there as well, one that had to have a timed clause to it as we now have Bioshock on the PS3. This is really the first time a sum of money is mentioned in a Exclusive deal to the public. Well its the first time I've heard of it.

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KGBeast

I'm going to have fun laughing my ass off as time passes and people finally accept that TLAD isn't going to be released anywhere else.

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GTA3Freak-2001
I'm going to have fun laughing my ass off as time passes and people finally accept that TLAD isn't going to be released anywhere else.

I already have fun laughing my ass off watching as people constantly argue about this whole thing when we simply can't say for certain what will happen.

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Slamman

I just hooked up my PS3 after having it unhooked and taken to Gamestop to report my terminal freezing. Well, after taking some time without it online at all (powered) I can report it's still as F'd up as ever!

 

Laugh your ass off at that and I'll clean your clock! It ain't no laughing matter!

 

I did just email a shop in Mpls that repairs both Xboxes and PS3s, the guy said they're one of the best in the USA. They charge about $75 to fix the systems and offer 90 days warrenty. Not in relation to the manufacturers one. Along with that find, the local movie rental store is offering free electronic repair for a limited time. It doesn't say game systems are excluded. I plan to check that out tomorrow.

 

Waiting to play it iin any regard is worse. The shop in MN, here, sounds like they'll take in a red light unit as well for that $75 repair fee. Awaiting more word on the repairs.

 

The thing I object strongly to is people scoffing at those dedicated to a non-MS platform. PC was the black-dog before, now it's both PC and PS3.... I feel with Sony's long connection to exclusivity, the boys at Microsoft saw the same opportunity for them to do what Sony had been doing before. For Rockstar, it's just a matter of securing funds I believe

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GuruAskew

 

I already have fun laughing my ass off watching as people constantly argue about this whole thing when we simply can't say for certain what will happen.

 

 

 

Yeah but at any given moment during these arguments those with Xbox 360s will have the game and those PS3 owners will just be going "OMG I BE PLAYIN IT IN A YEAR LOL"

 

So yeah, it's not exactly like both sides are equal. 360 owners undoubtedly have the upper hand.

 

all PS3 owners have is their wishful thinking.

 

But again, this thread should be locked. Why is it even going on still? Are all the mods busy?

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Slamman

^ You who again think you have some inside knowledge that makes it concrete to cast our thoughts as "wishful thinking" aside??

Back that up, homie!

You can't.

That is why I keep replying because that is not the answer people should take away from this debate...there's no verdict, you don't win this case!

 

 

There was I recalll...before the internets...word of a deal with GTA on Playstation 2 locking them in to a 4 to 7 years exclusivity. That was broken off early, and I was pissed! At that time I was young and headstrong too.. I felt it right to gloat, I was very happy with my PS2 that I got so dirt cheap. I paid good money for my PS3, I have no funds for this $200 360 system.

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GuruAskew

I have a 1.78 gig expansion and a 100% game save on my hard drive.

 

You have nothing.

 

Microsoft is out $50 million and that's why they got the content.

 

Sony is out nothing and that's why they have nothing.

 

It's astonishingly simple, really.

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Athena

 

At least someone wrote some proper English and the right idea that eventually RN WILL release for more then one console/platform. Don't be a fanboy, think realistically. The idea that they get the leg up for the exclusive time frame is all that's required...it will be enough time to make a profit for the deal.

 

To think it never need expand to another platform is idiotic!!

thanks man smile.gif

 

At the end of the day, I was merely pointing out the fact that the chances TLAD comes out on another platform are far from slim.

 

Like I already said, I don't see why most people are so blind: the marketing strategies stay the same.

 

Exclusivity deals (most of the time and especially with GTA) just mean a headstart in sales for the platform company who has the deal and nothing more.

 

And last but least I cannot figure out where all these people with definite answers are coming from; it's like they work at R*, MS or have read the contracts details... No faculty of common sense or reasoning.

 

 

Oh and mods can lock this thread if that's what most people want. I said what I wanted to.

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GuruAskew

 

Don't be a fanboy, think realistically. The idea that they get the leg up for the exclusive time frame is all that's required...it will be enough time to make a profit for the deal.

 

 

If you really wanted to think realistically you would accept the fact that $50 million probably bought Microsoft a hell of a lot of time.

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Bul1etSp0nge

Dream all you want. TLAD and DLC#2 are xbox only. I know it isn't fair but deal with it. Microsoft are money whores. If you want you can wait and see if modders convert it. If not too bad.

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Slamman

I don't think about that $50 mill outside of a comparison to a Superbowl ad. They're paying for the spotlight that garners them revenue.

 

The one guy in the Rockstar North camp who stated the best experience was on Xbox, he was speaking spur of the moment....nothing he said can't change over time, that is fact.

 

One PS3 factoid figures into this, while talking about Uncharted with the PS gaming press, I believe it was, not long ago, Evan Wells was asked about the possibility of Uncharted being made for the 360, and his answer was it would be possible but rather hard, one reason being the HDD being used heavily. Now a sequel is coming that will show off the PS3 even further at years' end.

It was interesting that he was asked about making it for Xbox, and the same kind of thought is seen here, in reverse

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GuruAskew

 

I don't think about that $50 mill outside of a comparison to a Superbowl ad.

 

So you've drawn a ridiculous and flawed comparison. Good for you! As a PS3 owner it's not going to do anything to overcome an insurmountable exclusivity deal.

 

Ultimately your interpretation of the deal isn't even worth a single penny against $50,000,000. You may think you have a shot at it and you may continue to think that for years to come but what you think is inconsequential in comparison to the reality of the situation.

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MrKlorox

The MS-paid episodes are coming to PC. I've been saying this since before the console release of IV.

 

PS3 is out of luck on these fronts, there is also going to be some multiplatform DLC that will hit all three (not yet announced). I'm betting it (they're) gonna another part of Niko's story.

 

In TLAD, Stubbs tells Johnny (paraphrasing) "The demand in the past few years for the type of person you are has tripled (i.e.: Niko, Johnny, Luis) ... maybe even more."

 

The "maybe even more" is R* hinting at more playable characters which would logically come with more episodes/expansions.

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GTA_dog

@ Topic Starter:

Did Sony pay $50 million for the content? Did Microsoft offer Sony a deal?

The answers to both are "No". PS3 will not receive TLaD or any DLC fro GTA IV unless Microsoft makes an offer.

Stop with these threads!

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Slamman

Quite frankly, that's BULLSH*T! ^

Sony and PC platforms can get this content if RN deem it so, but mainly I am referring to DLC in general and not in a trivial sense. Sam Houser has said his intent is that the paid for DLC will be worth what they charge, it won't be frivolous stuff like others have done in the past.

He wants real value and mileage from it.

 

Anyone making the NEVER COMING to PS3 comments here or anywhere can go to Hell.

You are clearly a fanboy saying such a thing with no facts.

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buffalosoulj4h20

LOL, I don't understand people, why be such a dick? How does this topic being open affect you in any way? Do you think you get browne points from the mods for saying lock. lol?

 

If anything anyway, there will be more topics about this if this gets locked. For those against this topic, every time you post reply, you're just keeping this post on top, so why don't you just let it go if you don't like this topic?

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GuruAskew

 

Sony and PC platforms can get this content if RN deem it so

 

Not if Microsoft has a binding contract saying its theirs and theirs alone.

 

I mean, you could argue tha there was a time when Rockstar could have made this content cross-platform and faced with the choice between making cross-platform DLC and taking Microsoft's money and making it exclusive to one platform they made the choice they made.

 

Microsoft could also get exclusive content of "RN deem it so" and that $50 million no doubt helped them to "deem it so". The content was Rockstar's and it was up to them to release it how they wanted and they chose to go into an exclusive partnership with Microsoft. End of story.

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gta 4 gamer

 

Sony and PC platforms can get this content if RN deem it so

 

Not if Microsoft has a binding contract saying its theirs and theirs alone.

 

I mean, you could argue tha there was a time when Rockstar could have made this content cross-platform and faced with the choice between making cross-platform DLC and taking Microsoft's money and making it exclusive to one platform they made the choice they made.

Show me the contract paper please. I guess you have a copy don't ya GuraAskew?

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GuruAskew

 

Show me the contract paper please. I guess you have a copy don't ya GuraAskew?

 

No, but I do have a copy of "The Lost and Damned" and you have nothing. There's also the fact that the exclusive deal has been officially confirmed by both Microsoft and Rockstar.

 

Have you ever heard the expression "the proof is in the pudding?" I mean, right at this moment people with 360's are playing the game and people with PS3's aren't. There's absolutely no shred of evidence to suggest PS3 will ever get it and all signs point to that never happening. Just accept it and move on.

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beatnik11

It seems everyone gets distracted by that big number with lots of zeros on the end. Microsoft is making a business decision to invest that money in a product that they believe they can make even more money off of, they are a for profit company and are not shooting to get a loss or even break even. The fundamental problem with the debate and why the fanboys are flawed in their thinking is that they believe they know exactly what was agreed to in that contract. Yes, that is one big number, but if the negotiations came out with certain limitations on the time length of the exclusivity deal, then M$ would have to consider if it was worth it. Whatever they did agree to, they decided that it was in their business interests to make that deal, however we don't know the details. I can easily see M$ recouping and making even more profit with even only a year head start, they will get all the hype to help power sells whereas if the other systems get it, it will be rather old by then and there wont be much interests. M$ will have gotten their time with it during the most profitable time of the DLCs life. Even if it does come out later in a year or more time on the other systems, M$ will have made out like a bandit. The fundamental idea here is that we just don't know what *exactly* was agreed to. So saying "But MS paid..." is not an end to the debate, its only an end to those who do not understand how complex contract negotiations can be

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GuruAskew

You talk about people posting their interpretations of the deal but so far there's no evidence whatsoever that there's any kind of limit to the Microsoft deal or time when it will expire and be made available to Sony.

 

Everything says it's exclusive to Xbox Live, the money is a huge amount (and this is why the PS3 owners in denial don't like to talk about it) and the game is out and it's on 360 only.

 

Any PS3 owner you see talking about timed exclusivity etc. is coming from a place of 100% pure denial mode and their ramblings are nothing more than wishful thinking.

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Leo Colt

Well if that kind of money doesn't guarantee permanent exclusivity, then it ensures that the two episodes will be exclusive to the Xbox 360 for a very long time.

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xrk

 

Well if that kind of money doesn't guarantee permanent exclusivity, then it ensures that the two episodes will be exclusive to the Xbox 360 for a very long time.

Maybe it was just how much it would cost to get 6 months exclusive content for such a popular game.. who knows?

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beatnik11
You talk about people posting their interpretations of the deal but so far there's no evidence whatsoever that there's any kind of limit to the Microsoft deal or time when it will expire and be made available to Sony.

 

Everything says it's exclusive to Xbox Live, the money is a huge amount (and this is why the PS3 owners in denial don't like to talk about it) and the game is out and it's on 360 only.

 

Any PS3 owner you see talking about timed exclusivity etc. is coming from a place of 100% pure denial mode and their ramblings are nothing more than wishful thinking.

Sir, I own a 360, I have no ps3. I dont even have friends who own ps3, but I came to my conclusion because we honestly dont know what was negotiated for on the contract. If you can whip out that contract for me and read it off to me I would be be more than happy to accept that it will never come out for the pc or ps3 as it really dosnt make a difference to me, however you cant do that and neither can I. We honestly have no clue as to what exactly was agreed too. That is a big number, but all we know is that for the deal that was agreed to, they thought it was enough for them to turn a nice profit.

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GameJesus

These stupid pointless threads need to stop. At this exact moment in time the DLC is NOT coming to the PC or PS3. So shut the F*** up and stop posting these stupid as speculation threads. Who cares if it does or if it doesn't, if you want to play it so bad go buy an Xbox, if not shut your face. There is no factual evidence abotu this so why even bother arguing about something that no one knows about? It's stupid and a waste of time.

 

Someone needs to lock this up..

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buffalosoulj4h20

People who hate these threads contribute more to them than the people who want to start them. For example, Guru hates threads like these yet he can't stay away from them. If the TLAD is so good and you hate threads like these, how come you're one of the people who contributes the most?

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