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Athena

TLAD will make it to another platform IMHO

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Athena

I been around the forums for a few years but don't post much so sorry if this is off-topic.

 

I think that the Lost and Damned will be making it to at least another platform besides the 360.

 

  • I take as a reference for this the facts that SA was a PS2 exclusive and still made it to the PC and the 360; and the fact that GTA IV while not being announced for the PC made it there. IV was announced for the PC 4 months after its release while SA was announced something like 1 or 2 months after its release for PC.

     

     

  • And even more do you remember how they had everybody doubting that IV will be on PC with a lack of news?

     

     

  • Now, with that being said, the only loophole in my thinking is that both LCS and VCS stayed on the PSP/PS2 and never made it to the Xbox/PC but still they were PSP exclusives and still made it to another platform: the PS2.

In conclusion, TLAD is a tricky one but I strongly believe that within 6 months of time there'll be news of another platform, most likely the PC and last but not least please stop with the whole MS paid 50 millions:

50 millions is peanuts compared to the money GTA IV brought in publishing terms which is superior than 500 millions.

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GuruAskew

Where in the past was there a $50,000,000 exclusivity deal?

 

That's right, nowhere.

 

Lock the thread pleeze.

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Jonny04

Don't start with the whole "$50 Million dollar MS paid " well of course some nerds will reply like this, especially with you asking them not too.

 

Imho though its never going to make it to another platform unless Microsoft get some cash on their hands, and both R* and Microsoft and their parents/subsidaries agree to breaking the contract which will stipulate that it is an exclusive agreement for the two episodes to be sold only on Xbox Live Marketplace and no other service.

 

It is almost 100% certain that we won't be seeing it on other platforms as money is not the motive for Rockstar if Rockstar wanted more they could get MS to cough up, after all its about bragging rights and console shares, it appears to me that Microsoft stands a lot to gain from the episodes, increased console shares, increased game sales, future Xbox 3 sales etc?

 

There is no benefit in a sale of the episodes to the PS3 system as it can only decline their sales and market share (console sales related to GTA people wanting the right system- which is 360. Not the other 360 sales obviosuly) in which the 360 is outperforming the PS3 very handsomely.

 

Yeah one last thing I just can't not mention this "MS PAID 50 MILLION OMGZ" so no, no other system that is not a Microsoft owned will see the DLC. PC won't see it either in my opinion.

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Jonny04
Where in the past was there a $50,000,000 exclusivity deal?

 

That's right, nowhere.

 

Lock the thread pleeze.

Lol nerd the Rockstar website says it in plain english.

 

 

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Enjoii

 

please stop with the whole MS paid 50 millions:

50 millions is peanuts compared to the money GTA IV brought in publishing terms which is superior than 500 millions.

You do realise that Microsoft didn't play them that money for no reason? The money was part of the contract to keep the game exclusive and only to be sold on the Xbox Live Marketplace. It doesn't matter on the amount, it's the reason it was paid. And the reason was to keep it exclusive to the Xbox.

 

 

Lol nerd the Rockstar website says it in plain english.

Think you misunderstood him mate. The OP is talking about things in the past and how they eventually transferred over, and the guy you quoted said that in the past there was never $50m included, but there is with GTA IV.

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Azazel
Where in the past was there a $50,000,000 exclusivity deal?

 

That's right, nowhere.

 

Lock the thread pleeze.

Lol nerd the Rockstar website says it in plain english.

That there has been exclusivity deals of that monetary value in the past? tounge.gif

 

Also, try not to double post. Use the Edit button if you forgot to add something.

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beatnik11

I am a 360 owner and am glad I got the DLC, but I honestly do agree with the OP. I think that in a year or so they will end up releasing it onto the other platforms. 1 Year is enough to get a nice jump and a monopoly on the DLC for that time, but given R* history of delaying but eventually releasing their games for other platforms, I see it as a very good possibility. On top of that, when it would finally pop out the episode for the other formats, the core game will already be at least 2 years old if not more and virtually all the hype that helps power sells at the beginning will be gone so it wont actually concern microsoft all that much since they were able to cash in on that. R* will be able to get some more money and the others will finally be able to get the full game, even if delayed. The jump start for microsoft will be more than enough to pay for their 50 mil invested.

 

Also, we actually dont know all the particulars of the deal that Microsoft made for the 50 million. There very well could be a sunset clause that allows the exclusivity of the content to expire after a certain amount of time. So just saying "But MS paid...." does not actually win the debate

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Jonny04
Where in the past was there a $50,000,000 exclusivity deal?

 

That's right, nowhere.

 

Lock the thread pleeze.

Lol nerd the Rockstar website says it in plain english.

That there has been exclusivity deals of that monetary value in the past? tounge.gif

 

Also, try not to double post. Use the Edit button if you forgot to add something.

lol soz mate getting pissed at a mission here and misread ur post. smile.gif

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luislopez

I hate people who say this LOL

 

I also hate ps3 owners who whinge about not getting it, if you want it that much by an xbox that's what I did biggrin.gif

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Slamman

I discovered a laptop near the trash this past summer, fixed it up and then planned to use it myself, but upon lack of cash, I opted to list it on Craig's List for sale,...

Then as I looked over the consoles on offer, I realized a trade for an Xbox 360 system for a laptop might be feasible. That is something I'm looking at doing. I don't know if a $300 laptop is equal to the Xbox with all the price drops, may require they THROW IN GTA4!

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Matt21
Where in the past was there a $50,000,000 exclusivity deal?

 

That's right, nowhere.

 

Lock the thread pleeze.

+1

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Red_153D

Wasn't this thread locked a while ago?

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Magic_Al

This is the same discussion over and over. Someone make a sticky poll that has all the possible opinions so everyone can take sides and be done with it.

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Slamman

At least someone wrote some proper English and the right idea that eventually RN WILL release for more then one console/platform. Don't be a fanboy, think realistically. The idea that they get the leg up for the exclusive time frame is all that's required...it will be enough time to make a profit for the deal.

 

To think it never need expand to another platform is idiotic!!

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Mo4pheus

The only way I can see this happening (IMHO) is IF Sony pays MS for the right to make it available to PS3 owners which is what I think MS had in mind when they penned this deal with R*.

 

Can you say Monopoly?

 

Wouldn't be the first time a big corporation like MS made another big corporation bow down to them.

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Slamman

Ok, meat and patatoes...The idea Sony get the DLC without paying, well, it may be reality if time passes that Rockstar North deem appropriate. It's up to Dan and Sam when and if and where, not anyone here... and unless Microsoft own ALL rights to the DLC as part of this, they can't dictate what RN do any more then the rest of us!! I'd like for you guys to keep that in mind. I think it's fair to suggest.

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Seddo
I discovered a laptop near the trash this past summer, fixed it up and then planned to use it myself, but upon lack of cash, I opted to list it on Craig's List for sale,...

Then as I looked over the consoles on offer, I realized a trade for an Xbox 360 system for a laptop might be feasible. That is something I'm looking at doing. I don't know if a $300 laptop is equal to the Xbox with all the price drops, may require they THROW IN GTA4!

Can someone please tell me what that has to do with TLAD making it onto another platform?

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Slamman

@seddo,

It's just something I hit upon the other day, and I thought to propose the idea in these debates for the DLC and the in-ability to play it, consider a trade for a system. It's one option available. Or you can wait it out, however long ....as Sam Houser would say

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CookPassBabtridge

Slamman, its not up to anyone at Rockstar, MS paid the money, and they got the rights to the two episodes. Even if a release was timed, MS are going to want to keep it for at least a couple of years, by which time V may be out.

 

I must add, as Im playing through TLAD, PS3 owners really arent missing out on much at all IMO. Not many will agree, but Im feeling like the more money I spend on GTA, the less I get for it.

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Slamman

Unless you can prove it, you don't have much to stand on. All I read is conflicted conjection. Since Rockstar are the artists creating it, they have the true control, I feel MS in the capacity of a record label and RN are the recording artists.

In the music business, artists often get screwed, it's true, but they are the ones putting the DLC all together and Sam was interviewed IN THE PS3 GAMING magazines, which means they are CERTAINLY not dropping support of our machine

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CookPassBabtridge

Slamman, Rockstar got paid the 50 mil advance to sit and create it, and MS retain the rights to keep it exclusive to 360. It was even announced more than once by MS way before IV came out, so why anyone would still need proof I dont know.

 

The Housers will still be in PS3 mags because theyre still selling IV to the readers of them, so thats nothing to base DLC on.

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beatnik11
Unless you can prove it, you don't have much to stand on. All I read is conflicted conjection. Since Rockstar are the artists creating it, they have the true control, I feel MS in the capacity of a record label and RN are the recording artists.

In the music business, artists often get screwed, it's true, but they are the ones putting the DLC all together and Sam was interviewed IN THE PS3 GAMING magazines, which means they are CERTAINLY not dropping support of our machine

Actually the way the recording industry works, the artists does not own his music, the record company does. Due to the contract though it varies on the freedom of what they can and cant do with it though. With this, rockstar owns the rights to their own content though and like you said, they can really do what they want with it. The most important thing though is what was written in that contract that they signed with microsoft. Unless we could actually read it, nobody on here really actually knows what rights R* has over releasing it on other consoles. So anyone who says definitively (360 fanboys) really does not know what they are talking about, all we can do is hedge our bets that it either will or wont

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Leo Colt

Sony managed to keep the stories games exclusive to their platforms, so why can't this DLC be exclusive to Microsoft? If there's one thing I know, it's that precedent means nothing. This is simply a case of "wait and see." Don't hold your breath, but if it does go multi-platform then it's a pleasant surprise.

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Slamman

Well, there's details we're not going to know, unless we had one of those "I work for Rockstar and I can tell you" visits, as of late...that hasn't happened.

Either way, $50 Million doesn't swing the argument one way or the other for me. I feel big business is the gaming industry, it's no real secret there, so the sticker shock is not the same to a company paying for Superbowl ads. Its' that same equation here.

 

I do believe the DLC idea did NOT come about because MS suggested it. I think it was solely the idea to expand GTA online in a larger capacity and that means beyond simple MP.

 

@Cooksbridge...

The Housers will still be in PS3 mags because theyre still selling IV to the readers of them, so thats nothing to base DLC on.

 

Yes it is, in fact, I bought and read the Playstation game magazines with regard to GTA 4, it was first reported in PSM! WAy, way before the Xbox factor was even known, certainly DLC as well.

What I was getting at is that download seamless additions were brought up in that press but not that PS3 owners were out of luck. I think the lack of discussion in print is strange, there's certainly a lot of talk about it online, but my feeling is this is in reality "trial by Fire", anything they program out for the games as DLC is released. They certainly would have to guage public reaction to see what the results are. I still think they'd stick to their guns in terms of what they want to do with DLC, but if they can't sell it, it's not much good either.

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CookPassBabtridge

Slamman, yeah I would agree there will be an element of experiment with the DLC to begin with. That said, I cant fathom some of the decisions made with this first episode. It feels to me like the series is peddling backward in terms of playability. People are wanting activities and Rockstar seemingly kick against it. But thats off topic a little....

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buffalosoulj4h20

I own both platforms, and even if Rstar releases it for the PS3, I personally wouldn't get it, because who wants this a year from now? I would want them to start a whole new GTA game.

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The BigSlick

I dont see why some fellow ps3 owners keep posting these sort of topics.

 

The only time we should have this mentioned again is if:

 

1. Info is leaked showing their may be a possibility of it being released to another platform.

 

2. A year has passed, nothing comes to PC or PS3 then the indenial people can finally realise they will not be able to play TLAD.

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Slamman

You can't draw an invisible line time limit at 1 year, simply for the reason that the DLC is in two staggared parts. It's already been delayed. I grant you, in a year from now I expect to hear something about another GTA following "4", at least word they plan to move forward beyond those who DO have the capacity.

 

A large number of folks play only offline, SP games.

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BlOoDStReAm101

Jesus f*cking christ.

 

It's like me paying someone one million dollars for a custom made ice cream flavor that is exclusive to my company. Do you expect the person who made that custom made ice cream to give it to another company for free? No, same thing with this situation.

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