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El Zilcho

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Money Over Bullshit

@ Claude4Catalina ..

 

I was actually talking about the Mission "Catch the wave" in which Niko and Phil go to a warehouse and escape in boats full of coke

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El Zilcho

Yep, I'm thinking of doing some charcter bits soon too. You konw, to clear the stuff up.

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JOSEPH X
Nope, not dead. Yet!

 

I'll try update some stuff soon.

I`d totally forgotten about this thread (blame Tampagate)

 

If it`s the case that the H that came in on the Platypus with Niko is the H from "Deal" (which it is), then isn`t it a bit odd that this H would be leaving on the Platypus during "Revenge"

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El Zilcho
Nope, not dead. Yet!

 

I'll try update some stuff soon.

I`d totally forgotten about this thread (blame Tampagate)

 

If it`s the case that the H that came in on the Platypus with Niko is the H from "Deal" (which it is), then isn`t it a bit odd that this H would be leaving on the Platypus during "Revenge"

It never elft on the Platypus. The deal fell through and Dimtri never acquired the Pegorino H. The Heroin on the ship is just some sperate drug stash.

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JOSEPH X
@ Claude4Catalina ..

 

I was actually talking about the Mission "Catch the wave" in which Niko and Phil go to a warehouse and escape in boats full of coke

That line of coke starts and ends there. But Chubbie Charlie knows about it, hence "Trespass"

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JOSEPH X
Nope, not dead. Yet!

 

I'll try update some stuff soon.

I`d totally forgotten about this thread (blame Tampagate)

 

If it`s the case that the H that came in on the Platypus with Niko is the H from "Deal" (which it is), then isn`t it a bit odd that this H would be leaving on the Platypus during "Revenge"

It never elft on the Platypus. The deal fell through and Dimtri never acquired the Pegorino H. The Heroin on the ship is just some sperate drug stash.

Are you sure? Dmitri calls Niko before he goes into the warehouse and says he`s killed the buyer and plans to keep the H. This is the genius of the dual finale, whereas Niko`s recieving a call from Dmitri outside the warehouse in"Deal", in "Revenge" he`s going to kill Dmitri loading the same H, Nothing stops Dmitri taking the Pegorino H. You with me?? If you `deal`, then you`ve got Dmitri`s money, so he sends a hitman after you. If you `revenge` Peg loses everything so comes after you himself

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Money Over Bullshit

Are you sure? Dmitri calls Niko before he goes into the warehouse and says he`s killed the buyer and plans to keep the H. This is the genius of the dual finale, whereas Niko`s recieving a call from Dmitri outside the warehouse in"Deal", in "Revenge" he`s going to kill Dmitri loading the same H, Nothing stops Dmitri taking the Pegorino H.

That happens when you do the deal.

 

If you pick Revenge, Niko just goes to the Platypus and kills Dimitri and the Pegorinos are stuck with the H and no buyer that's why Jimmy Kills Kate at the wedding. He was aiming for Niko cause he screwed him over by not doing the deal. He just has a bad aim biggrin.gif

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El Zilcho

Are you sure? Dmitri calls Niko before he goes into the warehouse and says he`s killed the buyer and plans to keep the H. This is the genius of the dual finale, whereas Niko`s recieving a call from Dmitri outside the warehouse in"Deal", in "Revenge" he`s going to kill Dmitri loading the same H, Nothing stops Dmitri taking the Pegorino H.

That happens when you do the deal.

 

If you pick Revenge, Niko just goes to the Platypus and kills Dimitri and the Pegorinos are stuck with the H and no buyer that's why Jimmy Kills Kate at the wedding. He was aiming for Niko cause he screwed him over by not doing the deal. He just has a bad aim biggrin.gif

If I was Jimmy, I would have not shouted until AFTER Niko was full of lead. I mean come on, he sprayed the guests and noly Kate got hit? I was hoping Brucie got a soht or two biggrin.gif

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Money Over Bullshit
I mean come on, he sprayed the guests and noly Kate got hit? I was hoping Brucie got a soht or two biggrin.gif

Haha I gotta agree with you... He's an idiot.

 

Kate is a stupid bitch anyway like how is her getting shot comparable with Roman?? Its like they want you to pick Revenge

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El Zilcho
I mean come on, he sprayed the guests and noly Kate got hit? I was hoping Brucie got a soht or two  biggrin.gif

Haha I gotta agree with you... He's an idiot.

 

Kate is a stupid bitch anyway like how is her getting shot comparable with Roman?? Its like they want you to pick Revenge

x2. The ending of Deal is more fun to play, more cinematic, epic, harder to go through and makes a bigger effect. As for Kate dying, the gameplay is better (Roman lives) but it sucks that the ending is anti-climatic, you weren't fueled to kill Jimmy, I didn't care for Kate so when Niko was all angry, I couldn't care elss if Jimmy escaped.

 

Deal was so much more fun, but I did Revenge anyway confused.gif

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Money Over Bullshit

I did both with two seperate files. I also Played the game again and saved the people I killed the first time and vice versa. The first time I killed just about everybody lol. I saved Derrick And Dwayne though. Then Killed them and the last time I played I saved them. I don't really have many games for the XBox 360 so I had to just play it over and over till TLAD came out smile.gif

 

But anyway enough about me. Back to the topic at hand... We need updates man so hop to it

 

 

I mean if you want to that is...

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TinCan

 

Nope, not dead. Yet!

 

I'll try update some stuff soon.

I`d totally forgotten about this thread (blame Tampagate)

 

If it`s the case that the H that came in on the Platypus with Niko is the H from "Deal" (which it is), then isn`t it a bit odd that this H would be leaving on the Platypus during "Revenge"

It never elft on the Platypus. The deal fell through and Dimtri never acquired the Pegorino H. The Heroin on the ship is just some sperate drug stash.

During the game intro you see them putting diamonds into cakes or whatever, and in another shot they are stashing the H in a black Schafter?

When you are meeting Roman outside for the first time you can see the Schafter being hoisted off the boat in the background.

And during revenge, the russians are loading the H back onto the Platypus.

 

As 'II J0SePh X II' said; Dimitri takes out the buyer and keeps the H no matter what ending you choose.

Edited by TinCan

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SovietWarrior42

If Luis Lopez is the next protagonist, I've got a feeling we'll be stealing the coke from Elizabeta used in Snow Storm. I'm most likely wrong, but that'd make a good mission. Basically, you steal the coke from a van of Elizabeta, then you drop it off at the old hospital. Not a hard mission to do, but the small connection is a little cool.

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Money Over Bullshit

I was playing the mission "Diamonds Are a girl's best friend" today and I noticed that the guy that throws the diamonds into the truck is Italian american meaning that he is not a member of Bulgarin's mob since he is Russian. So I was thinkin it must be a member of the mafia. But not the Ancelottis because their one crew wouldn't rip them off so maybe it was one of ray's men who he sent to recover the diamonds because he didn't trust Niko

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I was playing the mission "Diamonds Are a girl's best friend" today and I noticed that the guy that throws the diamonds into the truck is Italian american meaning that he is not a member of Bulgarin's mob since he is Russian. So I was thinkin it must be a member of the mafia. But not the Ancelottis because their one crew wouldn't rip them off so maybe it was one of ray's men who he sent to recover the diamonds because he didn't trust Niko

That guy throws the diamonds over the overhang into a garbage truck and if you wait a little after the mission, the diamonds show up on the in-game internet

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SovietWarrior42

I think Bulgarin recruits whoever, and not if they are Russian or not. I think Bulgarin is Greek, anyways.

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Money Over Bullshit
I think Bulgarin recruits whoever, and not if they are Russian or not. I think Bulgarin is Greek, anyways.

He speaks serbian/russian to niko in the game So he must be somewhat Russian

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JOSEPH X
I think Bulgarin recruits whoever, and not if they are Russian or not. I think Bulgarin is Greek, anyways.

He speaks serbian/russian to niko in the game So he must be somewhat Russian

Bulgarian...my money`s on Bulgarian. Can`t think why tho.

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El Zilcho
I think Bulgarin recruits whoever, and not if they are Russian or not. I think Bulgarin is Greek, anyways.

He speaks serbian/russian to niko in the game So he must be somewhat Russian

Bulgarian...my money`s on Bulgarian. Can`t think why tho.

Niko says he is Russian

 

"That Russian, Bulgarin, I had to leave Europe because of him" Spoken to Roman during in car dialogue.

 

"Thta Russian is called Ray Bulgarin." Spoken to Packie in car after Diamonds are a Girls Best friend.

 

He mentions Bulgarin is Russian a few times, and Ray speaks Russian in Diamonds are a Girls best Friend. So he is a Ruski...

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Money Over Bullshit

Here's something interesting: Bulgarin is listed as deceased Throughout the game even though he appears in 2 missions meaning that he cant possibly be dead

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KGBeast

At least not until Luis kills him.

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JOSEPH X

 

Here's something interesting: Bulgarin is listed as deceased Throughout the game even though he appears in 2 missions meaning that he cant possibly be dead

Not in mine he aint. I started a new game and went straight to [email protected], he just had an empty black box. I`m going thru a few saves to get an exact time of death. I have heard that someone faked they`re death but I can`t remember whether it was him or Kenny Petrovic.

 

EDIT: I just checked and he goes into the database as being deceased after the mission "First Date"

Edited by II J0SePh X II

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Money Over Bullshit

That's still way before he is supposedly killed though. So my point still stands

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JOSEPH X
That's still way before he is supposedly killed though. So my point still stands

That means it`s not 100% certain that Luis kills him then and if the Ancelottis are doing major coke deals with the Russians after "DAAGBF", then it must be with the Petrovic Mob. I`m gonna guess missions for Kenny P against Bulgarin, hence the "Dominican bitch" he calls Luis.

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Money Over Bullshit

I'd say he calls him that because he finds out that he stole his Diamonds.

 

The way I see it there's only a few days in between Museam Piece and DAAGBF so maybe it took him that long to find out who was behind the diamonds going missing and who has them now etc so he goes bustin heads... Finds out that Gay Tony has the Diamonds and goes to kill him and luis.

It could still be petrovics mob that the ancellotis are working with though so I wouldnt rule it out.

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Jackoozy

After Chinatown Wars is finally out, do we have more connections and crossovers with IV and TLAD?

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Money Over Bullshit

I taken the Liberty to update to story of the coke seeing as though El Zilcho seems to have abandoned this topic lol.

 

Here it is:

 

The Coke

 

There are in fact Four loads of cocaine that have a part to play in the story.

 

The First batch we see is being brought over a Toll bridge by the Angels Of Death in the back of a van. Elizabeta Torres hires Johnny Klebitz and his new friend Malc of The Uptown Riders to seize control of the Toll booth and kill the AOD when they try and cross the bridge and then steal the van containing the coke. The two are successful in doing this and they bring the coke back to a lockup for Elizabeta's bodygurd Andreas to pick it up later. Elizabeta then gets Little Jacob to find some buyers who just so happen to be the AOD, but they betrayed her and took the coke. Niko was sent to get it back from them and retrieved it, but ULPC operative Michelle (real name Karen) took it from him in order to use it as evidence against Elizabeta.

 

During this time Elizabeta's also had some more coke brought over to America from Puerto Rico by a coke mule called Marta. She arrived in the country and was about to be raped by a border inspection officer before she was rescued by Johnny Klebitz, who fought with LCPD and then evacuated her from Francis International, all while she speaks in Spanish to Johnny. John delivered her to Elizabeta who was very protective of her, and Malc and Johnny believed them to be in a rellationship.

Eventually Malc and Johnny went to sell the coke but they ended up shooting one of the buyers and escaping via Double T from a large police force.

 

The third batch of coke we see is when Niko starts working for the Pegorinos when one of their Capos Phil Bell has Niko accompany him to the docks in order to try and trick the Russians (who are now working with the Ancellotis) into loading a truck with coke that has been brought into Liberty on two speedboats. This however fails leaving Niko and Phil to fight for their lives against the Russians and highjack the speedboats containing the coke and drive them to a dock where one of Phil's guys is waiting to load it into a van. It is not yet known what becomes of this coke but it is assumed that Phil sells it for the Pegorinos in order to make money.

 

The Final load of coke that appears in the story is when John Gravelli a Mob Boss and friend of U.L.P sends Niko to a warehouse in Alderney to destroy several vans containing the product that the Russians are guarding for The Ancellotis. It is possible that this was coke imported by the Russians for the Mob to make up for the coke that they were practically responsible for letting the Pergorinos take earlier.

 

 

Oh and your welcome colgate.gif

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El Zilcho

Thanks mate, updated.

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Money Over Bullshit
Thanks mate, updated.

I actually meant for you to replace the Coke portion with what I had written but it's cool the way you have it. And you don't need to give me credit but thanks.

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Versityle

 

Wasn't the Coke in "This Sh*t's Cursed" that the Triads took back added on to the collection of Coke that Niko stole for Phil Bell in "Truck Hustle"? Just wondering.

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