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El Zilcho

Liberty City Connections

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Pr0xy_fl00d3r
Awesome.

Can you do Elizabeta's coke?

I belive it only appears in Snow Storm.

Its in TLAD where you have to pick up the drug mule and the one where you're on the back of the malcs bike.

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El Zilcho
Awesome.

Can you do Elizabeta's coke?

I belive it only appears in Snow Storm.

Its in TLAD where you have to pick up the drug mule and the one where you're on the back of the malcs bike.

Oh! That one. I'll get too it soon.

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Pr0xy_fl00d3r

I think this should be stickied in the main GTA IV forum. Nice interesting source of info for any IV fan.

You should also do a timeline of events crossing over TLAD with IV.

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El Zilcho
I think this should be stickied in the main GTA IV forum. Nice interesting source of info for any IV fan.

You should also do a timeline of events crossing over TLAD with IV.

Thanks. I'll get onto writing up the story and any connections, as oppsoed to just character meetings.

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VickeX

I still think you got the ending of the diamond-thing wrong. Or... Not wrong, but just... Not complete.

 

My idea, is this.

 

 

When you're at the handover /Gracie - Diamonds\ the package of diamonds isn't at all that big, that it should be if it's 2mil worth of diamonds. Plus, when he drops it on a truck, it's not a garbage truck. It's a truck with sand. They wouldn't dump the sand in the garbages would they?

 

Nah-ah.

 

I say there's more diamonds somewhere.

 

Edit: Also this part from the crossover-section isn't right.

 

 

The first time is when Johnny rides past Niko in Alderney and Niko bumps into a man on the street. The Lost seem to totally ignore this and so Niko doesn't notice them either.

That's just a small easter-egg. Niko can't get over to Alderney before Buyers Market. He can't even get into Algonquin, so that's a bust. It's just a small easter-egg-funny-thing R* put in there to make us feel abit of connection right from the start of TLAD. ^_^

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El Zilcho

 

I still think you got the ending of the diamond-thing wrong. Or... Not wrong, but just... Not complete.

 

My idea, is this.

 

 

When you're at the handover /Gracie - Diamonds\ the package of diamonds isn't at all that big, that it should be if it's 2mil worth of diamonds. Plus, when he drops it on a truck, it's not a garbage truck. It's a truck with sand. They wouldn't dump the sand in the garbages would they?

 

Nah-ah.

 

I say there's more diamonds somewhere.

 

Edit: Also this part from the crossover-section isn't right.

 

 

The first time is when Johnny rides past Niko in Alderney and Niko bumps into a man on the street. The Lost seem to totally ignore this and so Niko doesn't notice them either.

That's just a small easter-egg. Niko can't get over to Alderney before Buyers Market. He can't even get into Algonquin, so that's a bust. It's just a small easter-egg-funny-thing R* put in there to make us feel abit of connection right from the start of TLAD. ^_^

Fair pint on the easter egg. But you'd be surprised how much some quality diamonds are worth. I think it's all there, all 2 mil worth.

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KGBeast

Yes, the diamonds are small, but very big for diamonds, and of very good quality. They would easily fetch two million, in fact, that might actually be too little for the diamonds present, considering there are several of them.

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El Zilcho

 

Yes, the diamonds are small, but very big for diamonds, and of very good quality.  They would easily fetch two million, in fact, that might actually be too little for the diamonds present, considering there are several of them.

Definetly. I've heard of diamonds the size of your eye fetching 600 Million dollars for their clarity or whatever, so 2 mil isn't bad.

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Derelict Frog

That's defo all the diamonds - when the hobo gets them the news report he got $2000000 worth.

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El Zilcho

I've added a section as to what I believe happens to the characters after the end of the game. None of it factual, I just wanted to share what I think would happen. I've posted Niko's future and I'll do other characters later.

Edited by El Zilcho

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Fawkstraht

why isnt this stickied?

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buzbegone
Packie becomes the ruined one. After Niko confesses (while drunk) he was responsible for Kate's death and killed the brother (Francis or Derrick) and Packie goes berserk, and in rage tries to kill Niko. Niko is forced to fight back and not wanting to kill Packie, leaves. Packie swears revenge (remember, his father was abusive, a brother and sister are dead along with his mother, three deaths caused by Niko).

 

Niko is chased down by Packie and Packie nearly kills Roman at the docks, but Niko is forced to kill Packie, finally ending his enemy but finally become angered and enbitter. He continues in the crime world, but even more cynical. Not a happy ending, but better than deal.

Can this actually happen or is this for stories-sake?

 

Also, I can't recall when Packie's ma dies

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smeagol
why isnt this stickied?

yea it should be seeing as how it clears up all the confusion and REALLY helps the player understand the relationships between everything.

 

anyways this really helped me. good work!

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El Zilcho
why isnt this stickied?

yea it should be seeing as how it clears up all the confusion and REALLY helps the player understand the relationships between everything.

 

anyways this really helped me. good work!

Thanks a lot. I'm happy I helped someone along the way. As for the previous poster, Packie's Ma doesn't die, it's all speculation. It's what might have happneded had the stroy continued. It's only my opinion and some drama added to the mix.

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sam33

I agree with most of this but the Packie thing... icon13.gif .

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El Zilcho
I agree with most of this but the Packie thing... icon13.gif .

Hmm yeah. I think I'll take it off. It is really speculation.

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Jackoozy

Wow, man! Great work on the summary.

 

Just one thing I would like to add. I don't really think there is a canonical ending in GTAIV. I completed the game two times in a row and I concluded that the ending depends on your choice of whether sparing Darko Brevic's life or not.

You see, if you decide to kill Brevic, you'll fing out that Niko is not satisfied with his choice, so he knows that revenge won't let him feel happy and it's logical to try to make business with Rascalov. When you let Darko go away, Niko is full of anger, but he understands that he has new life there, in Liberty, new enemies to deal with, like Dimitri.

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MC.

I have a feeling that the mission, "This Sh*t's Cursed", will be involved in GTA: Chinatown Wars.

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El Zilcho
I have a feeling that the mission, "This Sh*t's Cursed", will be involved in GTA: Chinatown Wars.

Yeah, I think it'll at least affect the story.

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KGBeast

Oh my God, I've been waiting for someone to say that.

 

When that Triad in the tan coat walks out, I was thinking he looked much too specific to not be an important character...

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El Zilcho
Oh my God, I've been waiting for someone to say that.

 

When that Triad in the tan coat walks out, I was thinking he looked much too specific to not be an important character...

Yeah. And he mentions his cousin.

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MC.
Oh my God, I've been waiting for someone to say that.

 

When that Triad in the tan coat walks out, I was thinking he looked much too specific to not be an important character...

smile.gif

 

I almost thought the Triad in the trench coat was Huang Lee because he's wearing almost the same trench coat in one of the GTA: Chinatown Wars artwork where he's holding a sniper.

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Fawkstraht

Awesome. The fact that you'll have to update this for Chinatown Wars makes me even more excited for it.

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El Zilcho

Ahh yes, CHinatown Wars! No doubts it will connect closely with GTA IV and TLAD. Maybe even some more cursed heroin?

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KGBeast

I'm hoping we get to play missions involving the heroin.

 

Bringing it in from China

 

Losing it to the Angels

 

Taking it back from Jim and Johnny

 

etc.

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Gta Guy 108

I think Luis will work or some what work for Petrovic because of the van theory, whenever Niko goes and finds those three trucks, that guy says that his van belongs to Kenny Petrovic, and I think Luis might have got it for him, and he got it back, whenever the van is seen while playing as Johnny... Just a thought.

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sam33
I think Luis will work or some what work for Petrovic because of the van theory, whenever Niko goes and finds those three trucks, that guy says that his van belongs to Kenny Petrovic, and I think Luis might have got it for him, and he got it back, whenever the van is seen while playing as Johnny... Just a thought.

First of all it's not even Luis you seen in that van in the mission where you kidnap Roman. Second of all those trucks have TVs in them and they say there under protection from Petrovic. Third of all if you play Multipayer Mafiya Work you'll find Kenny Petrovic hates non russian working for him with the exception of Rami Yalon.

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El Zilcho
I think Luis will work or some what work for Petrovic because of the van theory, whenever Niko goes and finds those three trucks, that guy says that his van belongs to Kenny Petrovic, and I think Luis might have got it for him, and he got it back, whenever the van is seen while playing as Johnny... Just a thought.

First of all it's not even Luis you seen in that van in the mission where you kidnap Roman. Second of all those trucks have TVs in them and they say there under protection from Petrovic. Third of all if you play Multipayer Mafiya Work you'll find Kenny Petrovic hates non russian working for him with the exception of Rami Yalon.

True. It's just a random NPC driving the van.

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EnchantedX360

I hate to side step the discussion but someone earlier (I think page 2) discussed something that totally slipped my mind and then blew it up!

 

Lil Jacob was someone who had ties with ULPC right?

 

Michelle/Karen whilst approaching Niko in the cut-scene with Lil Jacob says "Hey Jacob" (not good with mission names but the one you got the drugs from the AOD for Elizabeta) as if she knows him rather well... Was he also brought in to the ULPC just as Karen and Niko were (given ultimatums or to face prison)?

 

Another thing that interested me was when Niko was going to meet Dimitri after killing Mr Faustin to receive his money Lil Jacob calls Niko and knows about the meet and offers to come as backup, this not only showed me Jacob had Niko's back and made me consider Jacob a true friend but made me ask only now... How did Jacob know about the meeting? Ties with ULPC?

 

Is it possible Lil Jacob will be the 3rd protagonist?

Edited by EnchantedX360

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El Zilcho
I hate to side step the discussion but someone earlier (I think page 2) discussed something that totally slipped my mind and then blew it up!

 

Lil Jacob was someone who had ties with ULPC right?

 

Michelle/Karen whilst approaching Niko in the cut-scene with Lil Jacob says "Hey Jacob" (not good with mission names but the one you got the drugs from the AOD for Elizabeta) as if she knows him rather well... Was he also brought in to the ULPC just as Karen and Niko were (given ultimatums or to face prison)?

 

Another thing that interested me was when Niko was going to meet Dimitri after killing Mr Faustin to receive his money Lil Jacob calls Niko and knows about the meet and offers to come as backup, this not only showed me Jacob had Niko's back and made me consider Jacob a true friend but made me ask only now... How did Jacob know about the meeting? Ties with ULPC?

 

Is it possible Lil Jacob will be the 3rd protagonist?

Might have been, if not for the huge amount of evidence pointing to Luis and all his appearences and crossings show that he will (85%) be the next protaganist.

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