swe_seifer Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Hate the silence, they could at least post some progress.... boring wait for another patch And they dont have their own forum either, makes us rant in CC's fan forum Ah well, they dont give sh*t anyway... now they have all money back spend on developement so i guess they work on next GTA... implementing new bugs of course, and the show goes on Dead on arrival Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeddyH Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Its not rockstars fault that your a f*ckhead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W1ckeD- Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Ofcourse they are working on a new patch, but these things take a lot of time, they can release a crappy patch and people are going to bitch. Or wait a couple of weeks and release a damn good patch. And anyway, they won't EVER SATISFY EVERYONE, because you just can't make the game run on EVERY system out there, all games have this. Just wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elBATCHo Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 i just hope they fix the sh*t f*ck shadows and grainy ass textures they used. if they fix that at least, then GTA4 will be a success on my PC, it already runs very well, just needs AA and shadows fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gta-man22 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Ofcourse they are working on a new patch, but these things take a lot of time, they can release a crappy patch and people are going to bitch. they have done this 2 times... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W1ckeD- Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Ofcourse they are working on a new patch, but these things take a lot of time, they can release a crappy patch and people are going to bitch. they have done this 2 times... Like I said before , not everyone has bad experiences with the patches, It depends on more then just your configuration, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaimebombas Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 And anyway, they won't EVER SATISFY EVERYONE, because you just can't make the game run on EVERY system out there, all games have this. If they work really, really, really hard... i think they can satisfy almost everyone! Starting with the memory leak issue that's causing the game to freeze! The cars with no one driving it (except only when they are real close) Just to name a few... In my long career of gaming, i don't remember having to wait for a patch to play a game. All the games i couldn't play was because i didn't had the minimum recommend hardware. Its not rockstars fault that your a f*ckhead Dont really understand why R* fanboys keep licking their boots??!! Are you guys expecting some kind of reward or something? Maybe the next GTA for free... Or maybe they'll hire you guys for their support team and put you answering clients! A forum is a place where you discuss subjects, not a place to throw your "garbage"! Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W1ckeD- Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 And anyway, they won't EVER SATISFY EVERYONE, because you just can't make the game run on EVERY system out there, all games have this. If they work really, really, really hard... i think they can satisfy almost everyone! That's it right here, ALMOST EVERYONE. And yeah let's keep it fun, it is nice to talk about this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeddyH Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 This thread sucks, its just like every other thread that gets locked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swe_seifer Posted February 17, 2009 Author Share Posted February 17, 2009 Yes see, everyone have experience of these pesky bugs... still there after 2 patches My guess is its working for a handful few, lets say 10% have never experience any bugs at all !!! now im nice with that figure But who has ever had any graphics never shown up on screen at all ??? i mean pure black screen... NONE see What i mean is graphics are good, textures and so on... they worked good them artists, but the engine/code behind fails and crash now and then and far too often Put it simple you paint a picture and put it in a frame for everyone to see... everyone not blind sees the picture you've drawn but they also see the frame around it falling apart every now and then... rendering the whole experience useless and laughable !!! no new Mona Lisa there I wonder why developer never learns... they draw beautiful games but non working ones, why the heck then put so much resources in drawing and so much less in actual coding... if you draw a beautiful game you should also code the perfect code !!! So stop focus so much on graphics and focus more on your code... its bullsh*t telling they cant code for every single machine, thats why we have SDKs and DirectX for friggin sake, i will probably die before it happens but focus on your sh*tty code !!! make that frame around your beautiful picture stay in place for all to see Thank you, and keep the thread alive... i have a slight feeling Rockstar is reading it !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaimebombas Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 (edited) And anyway, they won't EVER SATISFY EVERYONE, because you just can't make the game run on EVERY system out there, all games have this. If they work really, really, really hard... i think they can satisfy almost everyone! That's it right here, ALMOST EVERYONE. And yeah let's keep it fun, it is nice to talk about this issue. Of course it's impossible to satisfy people who don't have the minimum recommend hardware... that's why i said ALMOST EVERYONE! But i'm still hoping that they can satisfy me and i would be very happy if that happened in a near future! Until the end of 2009 would be nice... Yes see, everyone have experience of these pesky bugs... still there after 2 patches My guess is its working for a handful few, lets say 10% have never experience any bugs at all !!! now im nice with that figure But who has ever had any graphics never shown up on screen at all ??? i mean pure black screen... NONE see What i mean is graphics are good, textures and so on... they worked good them artists, but the engine/code behind fails and crash now and then and far too often Put it simple you paint a picture and put it in a frame for everyone to see... everyone not blind sees the picture you've drawn but they also see the frame around it falling apart every now and then... rendering the whole experience useless and laughable !!! no new Mona Lisa there I wonder why developer never learns... they draw beautiful games but non working ones, why the heck then put so much resources in drawing and so much less in actual coding... if you draw a beautiful game you should also code the perfect code !!! So stop focus so much on graphics and focus more on your code... its bullsh*t telling they cant code for every single machine, thats why we have SDKs and DirectX for friggin sake, i will probably die before it happens but focus on your sh*tty code !!! make that frame around your beautiful picture stay in place for all to see Thank you, and keep the thread alive... i have a slight feeling Rockstar is reading it !!! Amen brother! You hit tha spot! Cheers! Edited February 17, 2009 by jaimebombas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickBoy254698 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 They don't put the money into coding because they don't have too. They pay off the game magazines to say the game is great when it sucks. Then we get suckered into buying a game that either has tons of problems or is a POS. I got rid of my 360 for that very reason. There are simply too many games that suck and I got tired of taking up the rear from devs like Rockstar. When a game doesn't sell well the first thing they do is blame piracy. STFU!! Look at the handful of games that do make a ton of money and you'll find that they are original. Lacking in problems. Don't have ridiculous installation requirements. (Social Club - Games for Windows) Oh and then when issues do arise, because the always will, they ACTUALLY FIX THE PROBLEMS. Funny how those devs never complain about piracy. Valve is a shining example of what gamers want from developers. Yes there games are a little dated at this point, but at least you can play them. Rockstar should be ashamed of themselves for this but they could care less. Go look at Mass Effect's forum and see how many posts are from BioWare employees. There are thousands. This forum from Rockstar? I've seen about ten. Last but not least. I can't believe any developer would be so stupid as to release a game with a quad core CPU as the recommended hardware. Way to go idiots. Since most gamers have a Dual core we'll just screw them and concern ourselves with the future of hardware. FYI I have a Quad @ 3.2Ghz. Game still runs like sh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemesi5 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Ofcourse they are working on a new patch, but these things take a lot of time, they can release a crappy patch and people are going to bitch. Or wait a couple of weeks and release a damn good patch. And anyway, they won't EVER SATISFY EVERYONE, because you just can't make the game run on EVERY system out there, all games have this. Just wait. Yeah, well idiot, did the first 2 patches solve anything other than minor issues? What about hackers, bad mp, memory leaks. There are all sorts of problems that rockstar hasvn't fixed yet. Oh, and the those 2 "minor" patches took weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvr2fst Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Deja Vu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copperwire93 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Deja Vu Yeah this is another deja vu thread, btw no need another patch GTA IV already runs great and have superb VAC in MP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psymn321 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 In my long career of gaming, i don't remember having to wait for a patch to play a game. First patch i remember was after buying Elite 2 Frontier on first day of release for the AMIGA, to find that there was a terminal bug that took a few days to repair. That whole game fitted in 720Kb on a single density floppy disk. If they can f*ck up that amazing game then you have to accept that something 15Gb big is going to have a few bugs. Not saying that there arnt bugs in gta, and that its a bit of a slap round the face to have no dedicated servers, but i have confidence that the delay of the next patch is a good sign... Some news about what they are addressing in it would be very very nice tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Taboga Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 I had not one single crash during that many hours i spent with GTA IV on my PC. So stability is not the problem. The shadows look good enough if set to high. The Problem is the Peformance and the Memory Leaks which are also connected to performance problems also. Fixing the Memory Leaks will also repair the disappearing textures and objects i guess. But...how much can be repaired in a Patch? I worry that the whole game engine should be rewritten to fix that problem for real so I am not so much optimistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrk Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Valve is a shining example of what gamers want from developers. Yes there games are a little dated at this point, but at least you can play them. Maybe the reason you can still play them is because they are dated and everything they do or acquire seem to be half life mods Why do you think they wont develop for the ps3, its because it would mean doing something new Rockstar should be ashamed of themselves for this but they could care less. Go look at Mass Effect's forum and see how many posts are from BioWare employees. There are thousands. This forum from Rockstar? I've seen about ten. This isnt an official forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaimebombas Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 (edited) In my long career of gaming, i don't remember having to wait for a patch to play a game. First patch i remember was after buying Elite 2 Frontier on first day of release for the AMIGA, to find that there was a terminal bug that took a few days to repair. That whole game fitted in 720Kb on a single density floppy disk. If they can f*ck up that amazing game then you have to accept that something 15Gb big is going to have a few bugs. Not saying that there arnt bugs in gta, and that its a bit of a slap round the face to have no dedicated servers, but i have confidence that the delay of the next patch is a good sign... Some news about what they are addressing in it would be very very nice tho. Well... i had a ZX Spectrum 48k and later a 128k (to those who don't know what tha hell am i talking about: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZX_Spectrum) never had to wait for a patch to be released to play. You went to a store, bought the game, put the cassette in the cassette recorder, wait an 1h or 2 and finally have fun! But... sometimes... not everything run smooth. The recorder often started to chew the tape! Now that's one hell of a problem! Solution?! Carefully roll the tape back in, buy a virgin cassette, have a two deck cassette recorder and make a copy of it. And that's how you patched a game back then! Simple! (unfortunately... things are a little bit more complex these days and mostly because of the natural human nature to complicate what should be simple - talking about R* and their RAGE engine) That's why i continue to say "I never had to wait for a patch to play a game, until... GTAIV was released!" ------ EDIT: forgot to mention that back then you already had the "minimum recommend hardware" policy. Some games would only run on the ZX 128k. Cheers! Edited February 17, 2009 by jaimebombas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murcchachosa Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Ow come on guys, dont bash Rockstar Games all the time. Its not their faults at all. They could not add AA because of the lack of DirectX10. But they could atleast fix the memoryleak for the people who have faced the leaks. I didnt got any crash/error/leak. But bashing/bitchin Rockstar all the tmie very unnecceseray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAMonkey2012 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 (edited) Oh no, yet another one of so many pointless piss and moan threads sparking off the mass piss and moaners to .. continue to piss and moan. All been said, all been acknowledged, all been fed back in the relevant sticky threads for patch releases etc, all well known to just about everyone and his dog, and all been repeated in so many spin off threads countless times its now the ultimate groundhog day event. Edited February 17, 2009 by GTAMonkey2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacMaan Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Same old whining, over and over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlinbadman Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 (edited) They could not add AA because of the lack of DirectX10. Why would lack of DX10 stop the application of AA?? Did they not have AA before DX10? More likely that its a crappy port in which the XBOX could not handle AA so it want put in to begin with. Its not an issue about bugs for me, its how the game runs. When they were testing this for the PC im pretty sure they wouldnt have had machines that would touch todays top end PC's, so did they sit there and think "this is playable". No, I bet it played crap then as it does now. Future proof? my arse All this after San Andreas played amazing, solid 70-80fps (on my old PC), and lorded it over console versions. There will continue to be threads like this untill the majority feel the game is "playable", not a slideshow. Edited February 17, 2009 by Merlinbadman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dungeoncrawler Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 They could not add AA because of the lack of DirectX10. Why would lack of DX10 stop the application of AA?? Did they not have AA before DX10? More likely that its a crappy port in which the XBOX could not handle AA so it want put in to begin with. Its not an issue about bugs for me, its how the game runs. When they were testing this for the PC im pretty sure they wouldnt have had machines that would touch todays top end PC's, so did they sit there and think "this is playable". No, I bet it played crap then as it does now. Future proof? my arse All this after San Andreas played amazing, solid 70-80fps (on my old PC), and lorded it over console versions. There will continue to be threads like this untill the majority feel the game is "playable", not a slideshow. I think the 360 version has 2x aa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilrex Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Are you guys forgetting previous GTA PC releases? The whole "No DX10 = no AA" thing is bullsh*t, look at the PC version of San Andreas: up to x3 AA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIRTYDUNKY Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Maybe the reason you can still play them is because they are dated and everything they do or acquire seem to be half life mods Why do you think they wont develop for the ps3, its because it would mean doing something new last time i looked you can get "the orange box" on ps3 also when CS:source came out it had a major problem the steam forums exploded it was fixed within a day they had 2 or 3 patches in the 1st week thats a dev who cares about a commitment to quality dated or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptPusheen Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Are you guys forgetting previous GTA PC releases?The whole "No DX10 = no AA" thing is bullsh*t, look at the PC version of San Andreas: up to x3 AA. Read something about deferred shading. It was told hundreds times that dx9,AA and deferred shading(which RAGE make use of) can't work together. So please stop complaining. And it's obvious that R* is working on next patch. Just don't expect it to come as fast as previous two which were like hotfixes. Now when game is stable they can spend more time fixing bugs. I think that april is reasonable date Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaimebombas Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Oh no, yet another one of so many pointless piss and moan threads sparking off the mass piss and moaners to .. continue to piss and moan. All been said, all been acknowledged, all been fed back in the relevant sticky threads for patch releases etc, all well known to just about everyone and his dog, and all been repeated in so many spin off threads countless times its now the ultimate groundhog day event. Ow come on guys, dont bash Rockstar Games all the time.Its not their faults at all. They could not add AA because of the lack of DirectX10. But they could atleast fix the memoryleak for the people who have faced the leaks. I didnt got any crash/error/leak. But bashing/bitchin Rockstar all the tmie very unneccesera Same old whining, over and over yawn.gif Believe me... If the god damn game didn't freeze every 5min, i wouldn't be bitchn around this forum! But as long as the game isn't stable... YEAH! ILL BE BITCHN AND MOANING AROUND! Didn't spent my money to have the game sitting on a shelf! If we all cross our arms and do nothing... Ill bet and go "all in" that you wont see another patch! Complaining never hurt anybody... In fact it's a consumer right! You buy something that doesn't work... will you stay with your mouth shut and keep a useless product or go to the vendor to bitch and moan about what you just bought?! The game runs fine on your system?! Luck you... you belong to a restrict group of players (maybe 0.1%)! I don't even care if the game as no AA, beautiful shadows or DX10 support! All i want is a STABLE version! Is that to much to ask?! Guess not... because that is their RIGHT AND OBLIGATION! Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvr2fst Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Oh no, yet another one of so many pointless piss and moan threads sparking off the mass piss and moaners to .. continue to piss and moan. All been said, all been acknowledged, all been fed back in the relevant sticky threads for patch releases etc, all well known to just about everyone and his dog, and all been repeated in so many spin off threads countless times its now the ultimate groundhog day event. Ow come on guys, dont bash Rockstar Games all the time.Its not their faults at all. They could not add AA because of the lack of DirectX10. But they could atleast fix the memoryleak for the people who have faced the leaks. I didnt got any crash/error/leak. But bashing/bitchin Rockstar all the tmie very unneccesera Same old whining, over and over yawn.gif Believe me... If the god damn game didn't freeze every 5min, i wouldn't be bitchn around this forum! But as long as the game isn't stable... YEAH! ILL BE BITCHN AND MOANING AROUND! Didn't spent my money to have the game sitting on a shelf! If we all cross our arms and do nothing... Ill bet and go "all in" that you wont see another patch! Complaining never hurt anybody... In fact it's a consumer right! You buy something that doesn't work... will you stay with your mouth shut and keep a useless product or go to the vendor to bitch and moan about what you just bought?! The game runs fine on your system?! Luck you... you belong to a restrict group of players (maybe 0.1%)! I don't even care if the game as no AA, beautiful shadows or DX10 support! All i want is a STABLE version! Is that to much to ask?! Guess not... because that is their RIGHT AND OBLIGATION! Cheers! Yep it is the consumers right to bitch.....but not here. This is not Rockstars forum......nor is it your soapbox. I am locking this thread........in effigy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emcax24 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Valve is a shining example of what gamers want from developers. Yes there games are a little dated at this point, but at least you can play them. Maybe the reason you can still play them is because they are dated and everything they do or acquire seem to be half life mods Why do you think they wont develop for the ps3, its because it would mean doing something new their games arent dated they just make them to run on realistic requirements. you know that valve survey they send out every month? it tells them what people actually have. unlike rockstar who goes...i think everyone prolly has the best video cards, 4 gigs of ram and at least a quad core so lets not optimize the game and let all the cpu emulate the xbox on the pc. the reason valve doesnt make ps3 games is prolly the same reason everyone else doesnt make ps3 games. its a bitch to make games for. plus its expensive as hell and hardly anyone has one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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