LCHC ruined

[Pr0xy_fl00d3r]

Thus punk was born, the streamlined (no solos,2 min songs)

version of metal.

Punk wasn't a version of metal..It wasnt a version of anything. It was a movement that was influenced by bands such as MC5, Iggy & the stooges, New york dolls. It was heavily influenced by Pshycadelic rock, glam rock & pub rock, it had nothing to do with metal.

[theSECRETstach]

Do you just spend all your time listening to all 5 songs on that one station over and over?

 

check out what i think about it in my signature

[TheJonesy]

Metal and Punk began as two separate movements that rose around the 1970's and had eventually given influence to each other in the 1980's. Some metal bands were created in punk-influenced areas and vice versa. Metal seems to have branched off more than punk which would include Death Metal. Luckily the songs in LCHC of GTA IV are not intermixed with the new additions; they occur separately.

[Gundog]

Perhaps you were unaware metal sprang out of punk and Hard Rock?

 

X2, If it wasn't for the punk movement there would be no such thing as metal. Well there would be stuff like Black Sabbath & Iron Miaden, but I dont really class them as metal, I class Metallica, slayer & megadeth as metal, and if it wasn't for the fast, loud in your face style that was punk, there would be no thrash metal, new metal, death metal or black metal, hell punk even influenced goth and the cancerous emo scene that has arrived on our favourite music channels such as Kerrang! & Scuzz like an infectious disease.

 

So before we get all Metal fags coming in here going "Punk sux, metal rawks, I like boning guys in a mosh pit" just remember, that punk created the hardcore, in your face style of music and also things such as "mosh pits", "crowd surfing", kicking each other in the heads etc. Befoe punk was just boring ass music with silly solo's that lasted 5 minuites a piece, no wonder people were falling asleep at gigs.

Metallica, Slayer, Megadeth, that's all thrash metal, a sub-genre that derived from Heavy Metal (Black Sabbath is the father of the genre).

 

Geezer Butler, a member of Black Sabbath said that they weren't actually influenced by anything. They just rehearsed (they were a blues band before Black Sabbath) across a movie theater, and Ozzy got the idea of writing scary songs, since, people also pay to see scary movies. Their one and only musical influence was Hard Rock. Then they added gritty themes, kickass solos, etc.

 

Listen to their first song "Black Sabbath", it's eerie, it's main riff is actually the unholy tritone, aka "diabolus in musica"...

 

That's what heavy metal is. not some sh*t Dragonforce or Slipknot or w/e.

 

Up the Irons btw Oh, and emos suck.

[Pr0xy_fl00d3r]

Up the Irons btw Oh, and emos suck.

I think everyone can agree with that =D

Iron maiden are great. And I love Sabbath.

[Gundog]

Up the Irons btw Oh, and emos suck.

I think everyone can agree with that =D

Iron maiden are great. And I love Sabbath.

I love you from this moment on :]

 

Anyways, yeah, they fubard with all that death metal sh*t, I can't relate to people that enjoy that type of music. I find it to be annoying, and they're just growling and punching guitar strings. Horrible music.

[Graven]

Yeah. Black Sabbath is great. And Ozzy Osbourne is the grandfather of Heavy Metal.

Black Sabbath has influenced lot of Doom Metal bands.

[sam33]

If you hate it so much don't listen to it or use your own music instead. Jeez it's not that hard.

[Pr0xy_fl00d3r]

If you hate it so much don't listen to it or use your own music instead. Jeez it's not that hard.

Its hard when your joint favourite radio station in the game has had a completely other genre of music, which I dislike, funnily enough, is added, so I have to scroll through to see if the real LCHC is on.

 

But I find myself just listening to LRR now that we have good old Lynyrd skynyrd, saxon, Iron maiden, Alice cooper, Foghat and much more excellent classic rock bands on there.

[sam33]

Well like my original point just listen to your own music. Download those songs or whatever and just listen to them.

[SIKKS66]

Black Sabbath - Heaven and Hell. Dio is a goddamn legend!

 

I found the death metal funny tbh. I mean, "I Cum Blood" (Cannibal Corpse) has to be one of the funniest song titles in GTA history. And I really doubt a buncha bikers would have Kanye West on in their clubhouse

[Graven]

 

Black Sabbath - Heaven and Hell. Dio is a goddamn legend!

 

I found the death metal funny tbh. I mean, "I Cum Blood" (Cannibal Corpse) has to be one of the funniest song titles in GTA history. And I really doubt a buncha bikers would have Kanye West on in their clubhouse 

Yeah. Cannibal Corpse is a chapter of its own when it comes to lyrics. Their first albums are considered top Death Metal albums, and afaik CC is the most sold Death Metal band by the number of albums. But it gets bit of repetitive as their latest, 11th album is same old sh*t. Not much evolving there. Dudes are getting old I guess.

 

But the 2? or how many Death Metal tracks there are does not tell much about Death Metal. The setting is too narrow. Especially the songs they picked are blastbeat/growl type DM. Remember that Kreator, Celtic Frost & Bathory are not Death Metal. Those are great additions. They should have added more old-school metal! Rock station has twice the amount of tracks. Nothing against Rock! And please no lectures about how metal evolved from rock. Because Rock evolved from Blues. And Blues evolved from British ballads of working class. And everything evolved from the jungles of Africa.

 

But I have little sympathy for the guys who hate it. Its like if someone listened 1 song of Ramones and says "punk fuc*ing sucks". I have listened my Clash, Dead Kennedys, Terveet Kädet etc to know how good punk really can be.

 

To understand what Death Metal is about You need to listen Possessed, Death, Autopsy, Morbid Angel (Altars of Madness, dude!) and some great Swedish masters: Nihilist (aka Entombed later), Treblinka (Tiamat), Carnage, Grave etc. And a dozen of more, often unknown bands.

 

And of course Punk has influenced metal, from HC, Crust and the early Black Metal movement got lot of influences from Punk. Bands like Venom, Hellhammer (later Celtic Frost) old Mayhem, Sarcofago, early Sodom etc. all have listened to Punk, You can so hear it from the early BM stuff. Hell, even Voivod sounded punk and they turned to a strange space experimental proge metal.

 

look at the clothing...

 

 

But the revolution of Punk is certainly dead, or at least fading. Good old punks are "suit and tie guys" (lol, D.R.I ref.) today.

At least there are no more ridiculous genre-wars after all the breeding. Like between the football fans, rediculous sh*t

 

Music is a global language. It is the only language to break language walls.

 

That was my last 50-cent to this post. Enjoy the tunes. And hopefully You all like your favorite artist/band so much that You actually support their art and buy the albums.

Edited March 20, 2009 by Graven

[Slamman]

HellHammer is early CF. I believe Bathory, Kreator and CF are equally on par with "Death Metal", they don't have to be precisely that to be excepted.

 

Also of note, I was watching the MegaDeth VH1 BTM that is out on DVD again, what a terrific program if you haven't obtained that...there are additional scenes, including Lars and Jamez of Metallica.

 

The voice over narrator starts off saying how Heavy Metal and Punk formed Thrash Metal. Speed Metal is much the same, there is also "Sword Metal", where the vocals are much more clean and high...like opera singers on acid...Manson!

 

Anyway, the genre attempts have not been done to isolate the metal as a whole, but more describe the type of music approach. There should be no fighting amonst them, they are all required variety as I said before, otherwise the music would ALL sound the same, whether country, rock, metal or rap. Even Rap and R & B differ within their own contexts.

[Dancing Rick]

Seriously, I thought all the metal fags were getting their own bloody station, this has completely ruined a hardcore PUNK station and turned it into a depressive cesspool of eath metal.

 

Also, they have got rid of Jimmy Gestapo, the voice behind LCHC.

 

Atleast chaange the name of the damn station, because it isn't NYHC based anymore.

 

Is anyone else upset by the filth they are putting on a hardcore station?

I'm upset that this garbage has been put onto the radio full stop. Who the f*ck even wanted death metal on the radio in the first place? Nobody, because it's sh*te. I thought we were getting some proper metal? R* always end up messing up something

Atleast we got Motley Crue on LRR.

You're calling yourself a metalhead and you're talking about f*cking Motley Crue? lol, GTFO. The new additions are pretty surprising, but in a good way. Awesome choices. Didn't expect most of what they added, except Iron Maiden; I think they're just a given. Clearly they have some metal fans in house at Rockstar. Although I do take offense to that Drive by Audio song. Jesus, that's got to be one of the worst bands I've heard in a while.

 

And what's with all the hate on punk and hardcore? sh*t is awesome, you dude blowing dude bros.

[Slamman]

If you read and bought Circus Magazine in the 1980s, they were "metal" along with Scorpions and Bon Jovi, Ratt, Poison, etc. I didn't ever use the term "hair metal", far as I know it wasn't around back then, but it was either Hard Rock or Heavy Metal. I've been reading about Mayhem and Black Metal. They started in 1984 IIRC and as such, they were a Death Metal band, self proclaimed starting out, there were no overt Satanic leanings either.

[livejoker]

This is the kind of thread that makes me go *facepalm*.

 

We all have our taste, so stop bashing music, alright? People love different styles. If there was only one band, let's say world-known Ac/Dc, not everyone would love their sound. They'd look for something different.

 

Metal, or whatever you call it, is different from Punk, but it's still music. I'm into Ozzy Osbourne, Megadeth and i've seen Iron Maiden mentioned here, those are great bands.

 

I'm also into that old Punk like Nofx, MxPx, Pennywise and Green Day. Bad Religion. Blink 182 (Not sure it's Punk or whatnot, but it's damn good).

 

Why do people create such useless thread to voice their opinion? Someone should start a thread where music IS the topic. Every music. Metal, Punk, Rock N' Roll, Reggae Remix, Techno and even Oldies. All those are good. I love each station on Gta Iv and TLAD (I also LOVE how they added some Ac/Dc, that's why I mentioned them earlier ), because they all have a different style.

 

My post, while re-reading it, makes no point. It just says my opinion. I respect your opinion, but making a thread about it on how much the "Metal" on Gta IV sucks is just an epic fail. Use your HDD if using an Xbox 360 or listen closely to all radio stations, some are really interesting. It's just impossible for you to not love a radio station made by R*.

[Pr0xy_fl00d3r]

 

I'm also into that old Punk like Nofx, MxPx, Pennywise and Green Day. Bad Religion. Blink 182 (Not sure it's Punk or whatnot, but it's damn good).

 

NoFX are awesome, but Greenday and punk in the same sentence makes me want to kill myself, although I like their early stuff. Blink 182 is good, its meant to be pop punk, but theres nothing punk about them.

 

Also, its not an epic fail at all, my post was regarding how a "Hardcore punk " station was ruined by the addition of a completely different genre of music. Its like putting a westcoast rap station on and it having east coast hip hop on there.

[SBSkater]

I'm pretty sure Iron Maiden wouldn't say that they owe their start to punk bands either.

 

their early sh*t (pre-bruce dicksuckerinson aka pre NWOBHM) was very much influenced by punk.

here's their first single Running Free:

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now tell me that that wasnt influenced by punk.

now here's an excerpt from Paul Di'Anno(the one in the video)

Iron Maiden (1978–1981)

 

"Di'Anno grew up in England — spending his teenage years singing in various rock bands and working as a butcher and chef. He became the band's singer after the departure of the very unpredictable Dennis Wilcock who had pressured Harris into firing every member of Maiden (including Dave Murray) before becoming fed up himself. According to Iron Maiden's The Early Days DVD he was introduced into the band by drummer Doug Sampson, an old friend of Steve's from his days in Smiler. Their first audition with Rod Smallwood reputedly failed when Paul was arrested for showing off his pocket-knife in public. 1980's self-titled release quickly became acknowledged as a classic of its genre, as the band merged punk's energy with metal's riffs and progressive rock complexity, serving as the blueprint for such future genres as thrash metal and speed metal. 1981 saw the release of their second album, Killers, as well as a stopgap live EP, Maiden Japan. After having cancelled gigs due to Di'Anno's inability and, at times, lack of desire to perform, which has been put down to cocaine abuse and heavy drinking, Iron Maiden decided that to progress they would have to find a singer capable of withstanding the rigours of being on tour. They found a replacement in former Samson frontman Bruce Dickinson.

 

In 1981 he left Iron Maiden after a meeting between him and the band and its manager Rod Smallwood. In Di'Anno's words: "It's like having Mussolini and Adolf Hitler run your band. Because it is Rod Smallwood and Steve Harris and that's it. There can't be anyone else and my character is too strong for that so me an' Steve was always fighting"."

 

 

 

But since this topic is on LCHC's addition of mostly THRASH metal songs it is something completely different.

See Hardcore Punk played a very important part in the development of Thrash which in turn evolved into death metal(Cannibal corpse).

But I dont have much time to write about that sh*t so just wiki it.

PS

to all you so called metal heads plesase stop getting Hardcore pnk mixed in with with sh*t punk like green day and the ramones.

 

BTW

why wasnt Hatebreed included with the DLC.

[Brevich]

SEPULTURA & MOTLEY CRUE 4 LIFE!!!

[JohnnyTheJew]

Metal murders Punk, you crybaby.

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To each his own i guess....i used to listen to alot of punk rock and than transitioned into 80's metal (maiden,megadeth, slayer, etc.) from there then got into Melodic Death metal and power metal (Black Dahlia Murder, Necrophagist, Arsis, etc.)

 

I think they should bring the V-Rock station back because GTA:VC had one of the best soundtracks, SA wasn't bad, but it wasn't anything special, Alice in Chains and some other good songs but thats about it.

 

Or maybe they should add an MP3 player to the phone and have the [email protected] have a site where u can pay to DL songs and make a custom playlist like SR2, that would be really cool

I agree with the buying of songs off the internet and making your own station. Like why cant you buy the iTrip thing, but the GTA version of it and play music from your phone through the radio...