The Notorious MOB Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 I agree with all those who hate LCHC. Everytime I load a game I wanna just throw a f*ckin molotov at the ground to end the pain of having to listen to that absolute scutter being played at full blast in the safehouse. How anybody could listen to that is beyond me. It's utterly disgraceful. I don't think bikers even listen to that Sh*t so why even include it?? Maybe rockstar wanna induce a mass suicide brought on by the aural sodomy that is Liberty City Hardcore and see how man people sue them who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Coasta Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Just pick another station for f*ck's sake. Jesus Christ you damn crybaby! Too bad you can't change the station in the club house or the safe house..... Have to load into that sh*t every time... Annoying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Jesus Christ is more likely crying at you, while saying "Forgive them, they know not what they do" The thing about metal is "YES!!" it is supposed to be fun, all the time. The serious people tend to miss many of the points being made. Celtic Frost made the Cold Lake LP because Tom Fischer felt the band was becoming far too serious, and he did have an affinity for the 80s metal scene, so they played a bit into the trend, I still find something to like from that album, I did buy it brand new back in the day! I was also very disappointed but THE FROST is THE FROST! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pr0xy_fl00d3r Posted March 8, 2009 Author Share Posted March 8, 2009 I agree with all those who hate LCHC. Everytime I load a game I wanna just throw a f*ckin molotov at the ground to end the pain of having to listen to that absolute scutter being played at full blast in the safehouse. How anybody could listen to that is beyond me. It's utterly disgraceful. I don't think bikers even listen to that Sh*t so why even include it?? Maybe rockstar wanna induce a mass suicide brought on by the aural sodomy that is Liberty City Hardcore and see how man people sue them who knows I agree with you on the basis of death metal, but the actual hardcore punk is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Well, I disagree quite strongly, in fact. DEATH METAL is the hard evolution of thrash. Most Speed Metal fans and Thrash fans graduated to the extreme of Napalm Death and Obituary, yet, we didn't cast aside Exodus, Metallica and Slayer...if you're true to metal, not a trendy poser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pr0xy_fl00d3r Posted March 8, 2009 Author Share Posted March 8, 2009 Well, I disagree quite strongly, in fact. DEATH METAL is the hard evolution of thrash. Most Speed Metal fans and Thrash fans graduated to the extreme of Napalm Death and Obituary, yet, we didn't cast aside Exodus, Metallica and Slayer...if you're true to metal, not a trendy poser. Im not true to metal, I like some metal I will agree, but Im mainly a fan of Punk rock and its sub groups and classic rock. I like a bit of Metallica, slipknot and Iron Maiden and some of the early metal, other than that, its boring to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graven Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 (edited) There was a time when they made good Death Metal. Possessed, Death, early Morbid Angel etc. Some old Swedish ´Gothenburg´ era bands. But that was in 80s. At least there´s some good Old School like Bathory, Celtic Frost & Kreator. It´s probably Cannibal Corpse or Deicide that plays in the Club House I´d have picked Deicide´s track from "The Stench Of Redemption". That album is quite good and melodic. Well, I disagree quite strongly, in fact. DEATH METAL is the hard evolution of thrash. Most Speed Metal fans and Thrash fans graduated to the extreme of Napalm Death and Obituary, yet, we didn't cast aside Exodus, Metallica and Slayer...if you're true to metal, not a trendy poser. True words. Bonded By Blood. Man what a killer album! Edited March 8, 2009 by Graven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Keep in mind, as well, I stress the importance of radio, but not because I've BEEN ON the local show The Root of all Evil, but the many that came before ..they basically turned me on to the scene, and I'd scour the record stores checking out the LPs back in the day. I'd have to hear it on FM radio first, and most metal programming was on the weekends for a few hours. The Root show runs for 6 hours smack dab between Saturday and Sunday...and now you can hear their show online which is fantastic. Anyway, the point here is that those shows played mostly HEAVY METAL but often they mixed things up quite a bit, so you got to hear all manner of heavy music, even some classic 70s instigators. The idea to have all the GTA music in one game accessible is one I think would be cool but space limited just the same. By re-reading the articles on GTA4, I see the music accessed via the cellphone on foot still didn't materialize, but I could have sworn..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLUGLUG Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 (edited) These songs are fukin awesome wtf are you talking about? At the Gates is one of the best bands ever. and I don't mean metal bands either. I mean ALL BANDS IN ALL TYPES OF MUSIC. They added SIX songs and you act like they ruined the game. That's why there are different stations When you say "Proper" metal you don't mean those emo fags do you? I hope not. Anyone wearing lipstick or hairspray is not metal and never will be. Now that terrible ass punk station is actually worth listening to. 15 stations of ghetto booty music and you complain about this. TRUE DEATH METAL! REAL f*ckING AGGRESSION! -Max Edited March 9, 2009 by GLUGLUG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Dude, dude, dude!! It's one thing to defend the additions and the genre, it's quite another to go and do the same thing he did...which is to slight the Hard Core music. It'd be much worse IMHO if the punk tunes had no guitar solos. Punk-Hardcore, I use them somewhat interchangeably. Perhaps you were unaware metal sprang out of punk and Hard Rock? Anywho, the thing to realize is one station for just hard music is not a big stretch, you'll rarely find more then one station in one area appeasing fans with the genre AT ALL!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pr0xy_fl00d3r Posted March 9, 2009 Author Share Posted March 9, 2009 Perhaps you were unaware metal sprang out of punk and Hard Rock? X2, If it wasn't for the punk movement there would be no such thing as metal. Well there would be stuff like Black Sabbath & Iron Miaden, but I dont really class them as metal, I class Metallica, slayer & megadeth as metal, and if it wasn't for the fast, loud in your face style that was punk, there would be no thrash metal, new metal, death metal or black metal, hell punk even influenced goth and the cancerous emo scene that has arrived on our favourite music channels such as Kerrang! & Scuzz like an infectious disease. So before we get all Metal fags coming in here going "Punk sux, metal rawks, I like boning guys in a mosh pit" just remember, that punk created the hardcore, in your face style of music and also things such as "mosh pits", "crowd surfing", kicking each other in the heads etc. Befoe punk was just boring ass music with silly solo's that lasted 5 minuites a piece, no wonder people were falling asleep at gigs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 You can't class the subgenres as mentioned, Iron Maiden and Black Sabbath developed their own sound for different reasons, but similar in ways, as did Zeppelin and Judas Priest. It all originated from the 60s change in musical direction. A lot happened then, including the respect of electrical guitars!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillinger8 Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 You can't class the subgenres as mentioned, Iron Maiden and Black Sabbath developed their own sound for different reasons, but similar in ways, as did Zeppelin and Judas Priest. It all originated from the 60s change in musical direction. A lot happened then, including the respect of electrical guitars!! Some reason in this thread. I personally love the new songs added. Max Cavalera as DJ makes sense, he's a bit over the top in real life and perfect for a GTA radio station host. Be a bit open minded, people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smellton Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Perhaps you were unaware metal sprang out of punk and Hard Rock? X2, If it wasn't for the punk movement there would be no such thing as metal. Well there would be stuff like Black Sabbath & Iron Miaden, but I dont really class them as metal, I class Metallica, slayer & megadeth as metal, and if it wasn't for the fast, loud in your face style that was punk, there would be no thrash metal, new metal, death metal or black metal, hell punk even influenced goth and the cancerous emo scene that has arrived on our favourite music channels such as Kerrang! & Scuzz like an infectious disease. So before we get all Metal fags coming in here going "Punk sux, metal rawks, I like boning guys in a mosh pit" just remember, that punk created the hardcore, in your face style of music and also things such as "mosh pits", "crowd surfing", kicking each other in the heads etc. Befoe punk was just boring ass music with silly solo's that lasted 5 minuites a piece, no wonder people were falling asleep at gigs. It's called evolution, just as a catarpiller evolves into a butterfly, punk evolves into hardcore, which evolves into metal. Metal just took punk and made it good and require some talent. And almost all metal bands old and new quote hard rock/heavy metal bands as their biggest influences, not punk bands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pr0xy_fl00d3r Posted March 11, 2009 Author Share Posted March 11, 2009 Metal just took punk and made it good and require some talent. And almost all metal bands old and new quote hard rock/heavy metal bands as their biggest influences, not punk bands. That is the most outright retarded thing ive sen in this thread. How can you say that Punk doesen't require talent? just becasue it doesent include pointless power chords, over progressive drumming, stupidly long solo's which would bore the hell out of you. (Im pointing at metal in general here, not Death metal, as death metal is just like a retarded version of HC) The whole point in the punk movement was to show the youth that anyone could do it, anyone could start a band, it all pretty much evolved from the Ramones in NY and The sex pistols in the UK, and look at the Pistols, great band, probabally one of the most, if not most influencial band ever to grace the music scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLUGLUG Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 influential and popular has nothing to do with being talented. just to make a point, Kreator was added to the LCHC station, this is amazing to me because even in the thrash/speed/death metal community they are not well known. They are incredible, they're like "The Other SLAYER". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SovietWarrior42 Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 I'm not a fan of the Death Metal on LCHC. I liked a lot of the songs on there, particularly the Bad Brains, but now I usually just listen to Radio Broker instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smellton Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 How can you say that Punk doesen't require talent? just becasue it doesent include pointless power chords, over progressive drumming, stupidly long solo's which would bore the hell out of you. (Im pointing at metal in general here, not Death metal, as death metal is just like a retarded version of HC) Hardcore Punk is RIDDLED with power-chords, discourages solos as to make the song even more bland than your average death metal song, and how is over-progressive drumming a bad thing? The great thing about metal music is giving each instrument it's own characteristics. And no death metal is not a retarded version of HC, it's HC with some essence to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pr0xy_fl00d3r Posted March 12, 2009 Author Share Posted March 12, 2009 The only reason Im hating on metal in general and silly lenghthy solo's is becasue I have a friend who listens to only metal music, he has been playing guitar for like a year now and hes so narrowminded, he thinks that metal is great just because of solos and power chords and he thinks that no other music requires talent, he obviously doesent know the first thing about music. Just because the fag plays guitar doesent mean he knows anything about music, I cant play guitar to save my life and I know 10x more about music and the roots of different genres. Just becasue a certain type of music requires more skill to play doesent mean its better, infact, these 5 minuite solos are boring as hell, Id rather listen to some fast in your face punk instead anyday, or some not over the top classic rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 (edited) How can you say that Punk doesen't require talent? just becasue it doesent include pointless power chords, over progressive drumming, stupidly long solo's which would bore the hell out of you. (Im pointing at metal in general here, not Death metal, as death metal is just like a retarded version of HC) Hardcore Punk is RIDDLED with power-chords, discourages solos as to make the song even more bland than your average death metal song, and how is over-progressive drumming a bad thing? The great thing about metal music is giving each instrument it's own characteristics. And no death metal is not a retarded version of HC, it's HC with some essence to it. Flooder, I take offense, you can have your opinion, even if it IS wrong, but you cannot say your opinion is true as a blanket statement. Guitar solos are excellent. Explain to me why a Guitar Hero Metallica and soon to come Van Halen are coming if solos are unneccesary? Punk music started because kids playing in garage bands wanted to be part of a musical group but lacked skills some artists strived for, they went for the most fundamental approach, just doing it simply for fun. that is what Punk is at it's core. It's also a rebellous form of musical expression just as the 50s scene was in it's day. Or the Counter-Culture of the 60s, however, that had some stronger political and lifestyle ideas, Punk was also about society constraint and some politics. Edited March 12, 2009 by Slamman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pr0xy_fl00d3r Posted March 12, 2009 Author Share Posted March 12, 2009 How can you say that Punk doesen't require talent? just becasue it doesent include pointless power chords, over progressive drumming, stupidly long solo's which would bore the hell out of you. (Im pointing at metal in general here, not Death metal, as death metal is just like a retarded version of HC) Hardcore Punk is RIDDLED with power-chords, discourages solos as to make the song even more bland than your average death metal song, and how is over-progressive drumming a bad thing? The great thing about metal music is giving each instrument it's own characteristics. And no death metal is not a retarded version of HC, it's HC with some essence to it. Flooder, I take offense, you can have your opinion, even if it IS wrong, but you cannot say your opinion is true as a blanket statement. Guitar solos are excellent. Explain to me why a Guitar Hero Metallica and soon to come Van Halen are coming if solos are unneccesary? Punk music started because kids playing in garage bands wanted to be part of a musical group but lacked skills some artists strived for, they went for the most fundamental approach, just doing it simply for fun. that is what Punk is at it's core. It's also a rebellous form of musical expression just as the 50s scene was in it's day. Or the Counter-Culture of the 60s, however, that had some stronger political and lifestyle ideas, Punk was also about society constraint and some politics. Im not saying I dont like guitar solos, I am just trying to get my head around why people prefer metal to punk just because of guitar solos. Also, punk doesent lack talent, of course it doesent, even if it did lack talent it probabally did more for music in itself in 3 years that metal ever has, in terms of the generation gap and youth movement it created. Just my two cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 (edited) It all has something to do with raunchy guitar work, punk included. It's just a more streamlined approach. Metal and Thrash come from Hard rock, stemming from rock and R&B as well as Blues. It all comes from the native American African Blues music like Robert Johnson. Eric Clapton and Jimi Hendrix, Jeff Beck, Tony Iommi. All these guys pushed electric guitar forward, and each inspired the other. You can't have the music of today without each stepping stone in the process. Aside from the fact everyone gets a different hearing interpretation from music, and different things out of that experience. There are a few instances when people love the same song, but ask them another song, and they totally un-relate on it. Punk is at heart an expressive music, as Death Metal is. Dave Mustaine commented he can't be singing about peace, love, and flowers with the type of music they play, so even the lyric and singing approach play into the factors for each. Edited March 12, 2009 by Slamman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorticianENG Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Lol at fa**ots talking about Death Metal like they know what they're on about. "Retarded version of Hardcore", comedy hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Hey, Let Variety be the spice of life.... Be the lesson for the day. Open up your ears to some new stuff, you don't HAVE to like it, but at least be open about it. I am Also bear in mind, Saying This Genre over THAT genre is like comparing tastes with regard to food or games, for that matter. There is no definitive answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pr0xy_fl00d3r Posted March 12, 2009 Author Share Posted March 12, 2009 Lol at fa**ots talking about Death Metal like they know what they're on about. "Retarded version of Hardcore", comedy hour. Me and Slamman are having a chat about Punk & metal, so if you would like to act like a twelve year old else where, we would be greatful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 I ain't bothered by it, except name calling is not what this is about and gets the threads locked, so play it cool, bud. My sister got turned on to punk rock in the earliest of the 1980s, she's younger then me, but I hated it. I was still a major KISS fan and Aerosmith, REO Speedwagon and Van Halen were the big rock acts. Much later Henry Rollins did his spoken word and basically became mainstream. He showed that there was still an appreciation for Black sabbath, a reverence even. Pete Townshend recently commented on his coming to terms with The Sex Pistols (who hated Pink Floyd, more out of spite I think), and Billy Idol was a major WHO fan, so there was not a lot that could be discerned from early appearences. I think those that lived the times out proved what they had in the long run, or those that impressed upon others, even if their success was shortlived. Our hats go off to the Ramones, one of the major contributers to punk I feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pr0xy_fl00d3r Posted March 12, 2009 Author Share Posted March 12, 2009 Our hats go off to the Ramones, one of the major contributers to punk I feel. I agree with you there, the ramones added that fast, in your face, yet up beat style to the early punk scene, and without them, Punk might not be what it is today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorticianENG Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Lol at fa**ots talking about Death Metal like they know what they're on about. "Retarded version of Hardcore", comedy hour. Me and Slamman are having a chat about Punk & metal, so if you would like to act like a twelve year old else where, we would be greatful Yeah I'm sure you are, with things you're pulling straight out of your arse. Metal didn't come from punk, you're thinking of Grindcore, bro. Btw, it's "grateful", heads up for that next Spelling Bee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pr0xy_fl00d3r Posted March 12, 2009 Author Share Posted March 12, 2009 (edited) Sales of heavy metal records declined sharply in the late 1970s in the face of punk, disco, and more mainstream rock.[83] With the major labels fixated on punk, many newer British heavy metal bands were inspired by the movement's aggressive, high-energy sound and "lo-fi", do it yourself ethos. Modern metal would be nothing without punk rock. BTW:This isn't an argument, just a debate about music Edited March 12, 2009 by Pr0xy_fl00d3r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLUGLUG Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 So are you saying that Celtic Frost was inspired by punk bands?(one of the oldest modern sounding metal bands) probably not. I'm pretty sure Iron Maiden wouldn't say that they owe their start to punk bands either. I would have to say Punk owes it's existance to Metal. Kids who listened to that stuff in the 70's and early 80's bought guitars and tried to emulate the fast and aggressive sounds that they heard and quickly learned that you DON'T start to try learn guitar or any instrument by playing metal. Way to technical for 80% of the people who tried to learn it. Thus punk was born, the streamlined (no solos,2 min songs) version of metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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