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shiznit

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shiznit

Please. Im not too good with this whole finding out info. Look, i own a PS3 and i know and i really want TLAD. I know its coming out for the 360. I know that reason is that they paid 50 million dollars to R* for the exclusive. But can someone tell me if there any chance that TLAD will be on the PS3. Even later this year. Please explain to me the contract. If its time exclusive. Or its it always gonna be for the 360. I really wanna know. And please. I have nothing against 360 its just i own a PS3 and dont want to buy another system. So please no fanboy. Thanks

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JOSEPH X

On the xbox live website for L&D it says Publisher: Microsoft. Developer: Microsoft. You`ll have to ask them

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Darkgamr

It will never be on the PS3

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nlitement

I honestly don't know why you couldn't have just bought the CHEAPER 360 unless you reaaallly wanted MGS4.

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Gouveia
I honestly don't know why you couldn't have just bought the CHEAPER 360 unless you reaaallly wanted MGS4.

And Killzone 2. And Gran Turismo. And Uncharted. And all the other exclusives that the xbox has a counterpart.

 

You can do either the following:

-Buy a premium XBOX, GTAIV and $20-worth of MS Points

-Wait until September-October to see if it's going to be released to the PS3.

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Bitola

Isn't MGS4 coming to the Xbox in 010/011 anyway?

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Dingdongs

It is NOT going to be released on the PS3 EVER! Microsoft paid R* 50 million dollars for them to have the game ONLY. I am sure there is a contract and if R* violates it and releases it to PS3, and a week later when microsofts 1 trillion dollar lawyers get on it, we won't be seeing any GTA games on any system if you catch my drift.

 

 

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Gouveia
Isn't MGS4 coming to the Xbox in 010/011 anyway?

You bet your ass it isn't.

 

At least I don't think that Sony would let it get away from their hands so easily.

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buffalosoulj4h20

I would just get a job or save up if I were you. And xbox is not cheaper if you add the hardware, live, recharger/batteries, etc people just make it look cheaper.

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Panksta
Isn't MGS4 coming to the Xbox in 010/011 anyway?

You bet your ass it isn't.

 

At least I don't think that Sony would let it get away from their hands so easily.

actually some sort of mgs project is coming out for the 360.. there was a "teaser" released a while back

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nlitement
Isn't MGS4 coming to the Xbox in 010/011 anyway?

You bet your ass it isn't.

 

At least I don't think that Sony would let it get away from their hands so easily.

actually some sort of mgs project is coming out for the 360.. there was a "teaser" released a while back

It was for the crappy iPhone. sad.gif

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zeppelincheetah

Rockstar has broken every exclusivity promise so far (every GTA III era game), so i don't see why they wouldn't break this one

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GTA3Freak-2001

We don't know what the contract exactly entails, we only know MS paid $50mil for the DLC to be exclusive to the Xbox 360. If the contract is time-based then its possible it could come to PS3 at some later date, we just don't know enough to predict the future. All that's clear is right now for the time being if you want to experience the DLC then a 360 you will need.

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Bitola

 

Rockstar has broken every exclusivity promise so far (every GTA III era game), so i don't see why they wouldn't break this one

Probably because Rockstar developed all the past GTA's

 

 

THE DEVELOPER FOR THE LOST AND DAMNED IS MICROSOFT.

 

 

See? See? I hope so. This is getting old.

 

 

What people think is that GTA made The Lost and Damned and Microsoft came

in and went "Oh hi, I'd like to make that 360 exclusive". Microsoft paid to have

the game developed.

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Magic_Al

Interesting that Microsoft is claiming to be the publisher and developer. That suggests Rockstar did it as "work for hire", or at least Microsoft thinks they did. "Work for hire" legally would be owned by Microsoft. On the other hand, Rockstar's site doesn't say "Copyright Microsoft" and links to the normal Rockstar legal page.

 

We won't know for sure who owns TLAD till we see the legal language on the loading screen.

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zeppelincheetah
Rockstar has broken every exclusivity promise so far (every GTA III era game), so i don't see why they wouldn't break this one

Probably because Rockstar developed all the past GTA's

 

 

THE DEVELOPER FOR THE LOST AND DAMNED IS MICROSOFT.

 

 

See? See? I hope so. This is getting old.

 

 

What people think is that GTA made The Lost and Damned and Microsoft came

in and went "Oh hi, I'd like to make that 360 exclusive". Microsoft paid to have

the game developed.

the developer for TLAD is Rockstar North. I don't care what it said on that site...

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Bitola

GRRR! WE SHALL SEE! WE SHALL SEE, INDEED!

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GTA3Freak-2001

Well we don't know how it exactly came about, whether Rockstar were planning on doing DLC and MS just happened to pre-empt this and throw their cash on the table for an exclusive or what. In the gaming world where DLC has become a big thing its easy to see Rockstar might of been thinking of it before being asked.

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zeppelincheetah

maybe Rockstar will make two completely different but exclusive episodes for Sony on the PS3. that would give me a headache

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Magic_Al
Well we don't know how it exactly came about, whether Rockstar were planning on doing DLC and MS just happened to pre-empt this and throw their cash on the table for an exclusive or what. In the gaming world where DLC has become a big thing its easy to see Rockstar might of been thinking of it before being asked.

Didn't someone find unused code in San Andreas for loading mission packs? Meaning DLC was considered and rejected for San Andreas? It shows Rockstar was moving in that direction. I think the history of IV's DLC could go all the way back to 2004 or 2005. If I were Microsoft, I would have been calling Rockstar immediately after the Xbox version of San Andreas came out and tried to get the next GTA to be a 360 exclusive. If I were Rockstar, I would remember the history with Sony and say no to that. Exclusive DLC would be the logical compromise and that's what happened.

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Bitola
maybe Rockstar will make two completely different but exclusive episodes for Sony on the PS3. that would give me a headache

That depends, it's not like Rockstar's going to waste there money on Sony lol.

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Panksta
Isn't MGS4 coming to the Xbox in 010/011 anyway?

You bet your ass it isn't.

 

At least I don't think that Sony would let it get away from their hands so easily.

actually some sort of mgs project is coming out for the 360.. there was a "teaser" released a while back

It was for the crappy iPhone. sad.gif

ohhh alrite... oh well i dont play mgs

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Dingdongs

This has been debated so many times, the fact is it is not coming out the PS3 ever. I am not some 360 fanboy, I actually just bought the damn thing a month ago and barely got live going on it and I barely know how to work it. Neither the 360 or the PS3 are better. I do think the 360 is a better VALUE than the PS3, though. I actually had a PS2 since it came out and upgraded to the 360 instead of PS3 because I heard it was better from friends and it was cheaper at the store.

 

It is just not going to come out on the PS3. Myself and others have explained this. Microsoft owns the rights to Lost and Damned and the second DLC most likely, if they don't, then there is a contract in place stopping rockstar from releasing it on other consoles. They could have been offered something by sony but accepted microsoft instead. The god honest truth is there are more people who own 360's than PS3.

 

I know it is upsetting to PS3 owners, but it is just the truth. Rockstar is not going to violate a contract with Microsoft to release it on PS3 and get sued out of their asses by Bill Gates 10 trillion dollar lawyers, it just won't happen.

 

Someone said above it could be a time contract, which is possible. But Microsoft would not set a time contract for a few monthes, if it is a time contract- the terms are at least two years, and by that time new gta's will be out and only a small sum of people will go and download a game pack for a game from years ago, so it probobly won't even be released to the PS3.

^ Only if it is timed which is highly doubtful

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Well we don't know how it exactly came about, whether Rockstar were planning on doing DLC and MS just happened to pre-empt this and throw their cash on the table for an exclusive or what. In the gaming world where DLC has become a big thing its easy to see Rockstar might of been thinking of it before being asked.

Didn't someone find unused code in San Andreas for loading mission packs? Meaning DLC was considered and rejected for San Andreas? It shows Rockstar was moving in that direction. I think the history of IV's DLC could go all the way back to 2004 or 2005. If I were Microsoft, I would have been calling Rockstar immediately after the Xbox version of San Andreas came out and tried to get the next GTA to be a 360 exclusive. If I were Rockstar, I would remember the history with Sony and say no to that. Exclusive DLC would be the logical compromise and that's what happened.

I hate people who think History means something in the gaming industry.

 

History? Look at 1UP. EGM is gone. History means nothing in the gaming industry. Oh and before someone says Gaming journalism isn't part of the industry then think back to how you find out about games. Companies promote their new games with reviews and previews in the gaming journalism.

 

If want want to really see history mean nothing then look at ACES Studios. Flight Simulators team, gone.

 

Any company is up to the highest bidder in these times.

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Magic_Al

 

I hate people who think History means something in the gaming industry.

 

History? Look at 1UP. EGM is gone. History means nothing in the gaming industry. Oh and before someone says Gaming journalism isn't part of the industry then think back to how you find out about games. Companies promote their new games with reviews and previews in the gaming journalism.

 

If want want to really see history mean nothing then look at ACES Studios. Flight Simulators team, gone.

 

Any company is up to the highest bidder in these times.

I wasn't talking about sentiment, I meant the PS2's proven business history. When Rockstar would have been considering Microsoft's overtures neither the 360 nor the PS3 were out yet. At that time, based on past business, it would have been incredibly foolish to bet against Sony's next-gen console, but Microsoft had proven themselves capable with the original Xbox and more importantly Microsoft was ready before Sony to provide hardware for Rockstar to develop on.

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nitara
Isn't MGS4 coming to the Xbox in 010/011 anyway?

You bet your ass it isn't.

 

At least I don't think that Sony would let it get away from their hands so easily.

LOL yeah that worked out real well for Final Fantasy and Devil May Cry didn't it?

 

To the original poster, your best bet is to find a way to get a cheap 360, becuase Microsoft being the publisher just shot down any hope of it ever going to the PS3..

 

I know it sucks for PS3 users, I hate all this exclusive crap. Games should only be exclusive if they are developed by Microsoft or Sony. All third party developers should support both consoles unless they know it wont sell on one or the other.

 

I am thankfull I own a 360 elite, but I feel for the GTA PS3 fans that will not get to play this.

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zeppelincheetah

i love the MGS series but am holding out on getting the PS3 for MGS 4. every MGS has had a special edition that comes out a year or so after the original (MGS 2: Substance, MGS 3: Subsistence) so i'm still waiting for that. with MGS 2 the substance version was an xbox exclusive before it came out on the ps2. so maybe - just maybe - the substance MGS 4 will be on the 360. if not i'll break down and get the ps3 - it should be cheaper by the time MGS 4 substance comes out.

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i know for sure some sort of DLC will come out for ps3 that will also come out for xbox because R* is money interested and wouldnt ignore such a big market of gamers that could equal big dinero$$$$, there was ~ 3 million copies sold on ps3 in the first 5 days so just with that selling two $20 DLCs to just those earlyybirds would yield $120million in sales, i really dont think R* is that bad in business. What the DLC for ps3 will be, is unknown. But seeing how nothing has been mentioned about it, I honestly think it would be the same DLC just released a year later, i think that must companies wouldnt sign contracts that are forever. But even a year long contract is worth microsofts $50 million because that really off puts the ps3 users because honestly how interested would they be after almost 2 years of the games release.

 

And the only MGS4 would be released on xbox360 would be on multiple discs and for a good chunk of change, and it honestly doesnt seem like something that would come to reality, it would be the equivalent of Halo coming to ps3 which i know will never happen for many reasons.

 

And for the xbox360 being cheaper, for me buying a ps3 was a more financially sound decision. Because i aint going to buy a hundred dollar wireless adapter which is the only way to get internet to my console and i honestly dont enjoy or play online enough to pay a yearly fee but i wanted to have it. And once the next gen comes along and i buy a new console, i will have a really good blu ray player for my secondary HDTV and xbox360 owners will have a white paper weight. In the long run it makes sense to get a ps3 unless ur really fond 0f xbox exclusive games.

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nitara
i know for sure some sort of DLC will come out for ps3 that will also come out for xbox because R* is money interested and wouldnt ignore such a big market of gamers that could equal big dinero$$$$, there was ~ 3 million copies sold on ps3 in the first 5 days so just with that selling two $20 DLCs to just those earlyybirds would yield $120million in sales, i really dont think R* is that bad in business. What the DLC for ps3 will be, is unknown. But seeing how nothing has been mentioned about it, I honestly think it would be the same DLC just released a year later, i think that must companies wouldnt sign contracts that are forever. But even a year long contract is worth microsofts $50 million because that really off puts the ps3 users because honestly how interested would they be after almost 2 years of the games release.

 

And the only MGS4 would be released on xbox360 would be on multiple discs and for a good chunk of change, and it honestly doesnt seem like something that would come to reality, it would be the equivalent of Halo coming to ps3 which i know will never happen for many reasons.

 

And for the xbox360 being cheaper, for me buying a ps3 was a more financially sound decision. Because i aint going to buy a hundred dollar wireless adapter which is the only way to get internet to my console and i honestly dont enjoy or play online enough to pay a yearly fee but i wanted to have it. And once the next gen comes along and i buy a new console, i will have a really good blu ray player for my secondary HDTV and xbox360 owners will have a white paper weight. In the long run it makes sense to get a ps3 unless ur really fond 0f xbox exclusive games.

Adrian949.. I don't want to get into a fanboy war but saying the 360 will be just a paper weight is pretty funny. PS3 owners will also have a paper weight when the nextgen movies will all be downloads via a hardware appliance like the PS3 or xbox 360. DVD players will cease to exist within 5 years. Hell look at any store the selection of DVD players is pretty small and there are not that many bluray players on the market. Even with having bluray being the standard now.

 

The Xbox 360 is a gaming machine and a cheap xbox 360 plus a used wireless adapter can be had for 200.00 bucks. As far as MGS4 coming to the 360 vs Halo.. There is a big difference once again for the uninformed people. Halo is published by "Microsoft"

 

MGS4 is published by Konami.. Not Sony!! And most of the game is uncompressed audio and video that take up that space on the bluray disk. I am sorry but it can be easily compressed Bioware already proved that fact as did Rockstar.

 

But you can keep wishing that Lost and Damned is coming to the PS3 next year or whenever but the fact of the matter is it is published by Microsoft. Your chances of getting that are about 99.9% to .1

 

Not gonna happen. But anyways I am sure you can watch the videos once they go up and atleast see the story. Goodluck man.

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I can't wait for TLAD!!!!WOOOOOO! tounge2.gif

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