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GTA 4 Freeze on PC


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Subversion1337

WOOT!

 

R* sent me this email a couple of days ago! (hadn't checked)

 

 

Hello,

 

Navigate to: C:\Program Files\Rockstar Games\Grand Theft Auto IV\

 

Find the LaunchGTAIV.exe file, right click and select "Send to" --> "Desktop (Create shortcut). Next view the desktop, right click on the newly created shortcut and choose properties. Find the box called Target which should read as the following :

 

"C:\Program Files\Rockstar Games\Grand Theft Auto IV\LaunchGTAIV.exe"

 

Please change this to read as

 

"C:\Program Files\Rockstar Games\Grand Theft Auto IV\LaunchGTAIV.exe" -notimefix

 

Save the changes made by clicking okay. Then run the game again using this new shortcut.

 

Kind Regards,

2K Games Technical Support

 

Gonna try the fix tomorrow as I'm gonna go sleep now.

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i tried that fix before, it's even stated in the rockstar social club news (in the launcher) in fact i was using that one and the game kept freezing, i replaced the ati dll for the 8.12 one, i'll post some feedback of the outcome

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Subversion1337

 

i tried that fix before, it's even stated in the rockstar social club news (in the launcher) in fact i was using that one and the game kept freezing, i replaced the ati dll for the 8.12 one, i'll post some feedback of the outcome

You're kidding me...

 

OMG R* suck donkey balls! How the hell do they get off suggesting a fix that they know has NOTHING to do with the problem I'm having? Motherf*ckers! The fix they suggested is actually to do with slow/fast gameplay, not freezing... >.<

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Yeah, I'm still getting freezes/crashes now. Seems to either freeze or crash after about 2 hours of gameplay. It's been pretty consistent. Sometimes I get an error message with a crash, other times it just freezes and I'll have to head to the task manager.

 

I've tried the nomemrestrict fix as well as a few others and nothing seems to make a difference. I haven't tried lowering the graphics settings in the game or lowering resolution, but who would want to?

 

I hope Rockstar is working on fixing this game and not just trying to sweep these issues under the rug.

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Yeah, I'm still getting freezes/crashes now. Seems to either freeze or crash after about 2 hours of gameplay. It's been pretty consistent. Sometimes I get an error message with a crash, other times it just freezes and I'll have to head to the task manager.

 

I've tried the nomemrestrict fix as well as a few others and nothing seems to make a difference. I haven't tried lowering the graphics settings in the game or lowering resolution, but who would want to?

 

I hope Rockstar is working on fixing this game and not just trying to sweep these issues under the rug.

actually i feel like we (the ones having this problem) are discussing the issue under the rug already

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new error:

 

Problem signature:

Problem Event Name: APPCRASH

Application Name: GTAIV.exe

Application Version: 1.0.2.0

Application Timestamp: 494ff743

Fault Module Name: ntdll.dll

Fault Module Version: 6.0.6001.18000

Fault Module Timestamp: 4791a7a6

Exception Code: c0000005

Exception Offset: 00043387

OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.256.1

Locale ID: 2070

Additional Information 1: fd00

Additional Information 2: ea6f5fe8924aaa756324d57f87834160

Additional Information 3: fd00

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The only thing I can think of is that if everyone having this problem reports it to R* Support they may be more likely to fix it in the next patch if such a thing ever comes... Though another part of me thinks that there isn't much point contacting them at all given the shoddy response they gave me...

 

Here's the link anyway: http://www.rockstargames.com/support

 

If you do contact them it might be a good idea to mention all the fixes you've tried so that they don't try to blow you off with the same BS...

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everyone check this out:

 

http://support.rockstargames.com/cgi-bin/r...li=&p_topview=1

 

have not tried it, but it's as close as rockstar currently addresses this issue

borken link. displays this:

 

Operation Failed

Illegal parameter

 

What was the thread about?!

 

Cheers! icon14.gif

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FFS!!!! even the dam support site gives back errors, this is what's on:

 

 

 

Question

Is having over 3GB+ RAM and setting the /3GB switch in Windows XP a problem for my graphics card? Why?

Answer

On Windows XP, some drivers, especially video adapter drivers with onboard RAM, cannot run with the /3GB parameter because they require more address space than the 1GB kernel address space permits.

 

We advise users that have added the /3GB switch in order to maximize their 'user-mode virtual address space' to 3GB from 2GB, to remove this switch.

 

It can cause your system to crash and may contribute to other issues. Please be sure to delete this switch from your boot entries: boot.ini and any other places where you may have this switch activated.

 

To find out more information about this switch, please visit the following link:

 

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms791558.aspx

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FFS!!!! even the dam support site gives back errors, this is what's on:

 

 

 

Question

Is having over 3GB+ RAM and setting the /3GB switch in Windows XP a problem for my graphics card? Why?

Answer

On Windows XP, some drivers, especially video adapter drivers with onboard RAM, cannot run with the /3GB parameter because they require more address space than the 1GB kernel address space permits.

 

We advise users that have added the /3GB switch in order to maximize their 'user-mode virtual address space' to 3GB from 2GB, to remove this switch.

 

It can cause your system to crash and may contribute to other issues. Please be sure to delete this switch from your boot entries: boot.ini and any other places where you may have this switch activated.

 

To find out more information about this switch, please visit the following link:

 

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms791558.aspx

hummm... not for me! I've already checked that thread in their support page a week ago.

Thought it was something else.

I use Vista x64.

 

Thks anyway wink.gif

 

Cheers! icon14.gif

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well it seems like this thread is not for me anymore, as i fixed the freezes but now keep getting CTD with a new error everyday, HURRAY! I will reinstall the game, i'm pretty sure it will solve all the gta iv pc problems and consume the rest of my patience.

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Well, I tried something and it seems to have worked so far (i.e the last 5 or so hour long sessions...).. Basically start the game in safe mode D: The only difference is it resests your display config and the multiplayer model, but everyhting else is the same.

 

Again I'll report back if it freezes in safe mode in the future, but so far it hasn't.

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Subversion1337

 

  Well, I tried something and it seems to have worked so far (i.e the last 5 or so hour long sessions...).. Basically start the game in safe mode D: The only difference is it resests your display config and the multiplayer model, but everyhting else is the same.

 

Again I'll report back if it freezes in safe mode in the future, but so far it hasn't.

 

Nope, crashing again.

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Hi guys.

 

Been testing GTAIV after patch 1.0.2.0, had PC freezing on me.

Just wanted to let you know what works for me up until now, the computer has not frozen in 5+ hours of gameplay.

 

Rig:

Q6600 @ 3.3Ghz

Gigabyte P35-DS3

4GB memory

Vista 64bit

Ati HD4870 512MB (Cat 8.12 with hotfix)

 

Updated Vista fully, also DirectX fully updated.

 

In commandline file, only option is -availablevidmem 2.0.

 

Clip is off.

 

As soon as I do not use the above option, game freezes after 1 to 5 minutes of gameplay.

 

In game settings are:

[email protected]

Aspect Auto

Texture medium

All other settings - High

 

Draw 25

Visual distance 65

Cars 35

Shadow 8

 

The other two options are On

 

Hope it helps someone.

 

EDIT: some info about the commandline -availablevidmem

availablevidmem

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yes the availablevidmem 2.0 worked for me before the patch 1.0.2, after taht it's jsut random freeze caos again, so i uninstalled the game and installed patch 1, i'm gonna try the new nvidia drivers, but not the patch 1.0.2 again, even if the game doesnt look as good, at least i get newar 50fps while patch 1.0.2 i have 37 fps YES that much of a drop

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Subversion1337
Hi guys.

 

Been testing GTAIV after patch 1.0.2.0, had PC freezing on me.

Just wanted to let you know what works for me up until now, the computer has not frozen in 5+ hours of gameplay.

 

Rig:

Q6600 @ 3.3Ghz

Gigabyte P35-DS3

4GB memory

Vista 64bit

Ati HD4870 512MB (Cat 8.12 with hotfix)

 

Updated Vista fully, also DirectX fully updated.

 

In commandline file, only option is -availablevidmem 2.0.

 

Clip is off.

 

As soon as I do not use the above option, game freezes after 1 to 5 minutes of gameplay.

 

In game settings are:

[email protected]

Aspect Auto

Texture medium

All other settings - High

 

Draw 25

Visual distance 65

Cars 35

Shadow 8

 

The other two options are On

 

Hope it helps someone.

 

EDIT: some info about the commandline -availablevidmem

availablevidmem

Nope didn't work for me.

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i removed the overclocking (q6600 @3.2) and now the game doesn't freeze, but it doesn't lookg good either, not fluid at all, and the oddest thing is that it only shows a 2 fps decrease on the benchmark, in the meanwhile i downloaded a "fix freezing gta iv problem" patch which basicly (by what i've seen) only added a commandline.txt with -no restrictions init

 

i'll retry overclock with diferent voltage for gpu now

 

the problem is in the GPU, 4870 users can flash bios and say goodbye to freezing problems

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freezes and crashes came back after overclock sad.gif so it's definitly that what is causing the problems, but without overclock this game looks terrible, sh*t bought a new computer and the game just to play it, sh*t again

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Wanna know the funny thing? I put this game in my Dell XPS laptop and it looks like hell but plays flawlessly. No hiccups, no freezing. Has to be on the lowest setting since the lappy only has a 256 meg nVidia 8600GT video card, but it plays just fine. Go figure. If only my desktop would play it that smoothly I'd be a happy camper. Laptop specs vs desktop:

 

Laptop

Dell XPS M1530

Intel Core2 Duo 2.16 Ghz

3 Gb of ram

nVidia 8600GT 256 meg

320 Gb hard drive

 

Desktop

Athlon X2 6400 3.2 Ghz

2 Gb of ram

Radeon HD4670 512 meg

250 Gb hard drive

 

 

Using the 1.0.1.0 patch, forgot to mention that.

 

 

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Thanks everyone for the information on this thread. I was having the lockup issues, but solved them with two of the fixes listed above.

 

1) Latest nVidia beta driver - gave a framerate boost too. Probably what did it...

 

2) The integrated audio setting Hz change (went to 24 bit from 16 too). Couldn't hurt, maybe helped.

 

Can't say this will work for all, but it saved my butt. Clip capture off always. Running latest patches for GTA4, Live, and Social Club. All drivers up to date.

 

Dell 630i

Vista Home Premium 64bit

Q9550

8gb DDR2 @ 800

nVidia GeForce 280

Dell 630i mobo - yes it's hamstrung at x8, but I get 48FPS with very high settings (but only 1280x1024 display) no overclocking or other mods

Twin 750 Seagates in Raid 1

 

Good Luck to those of you still searching for a fix - it's a game well worth fighting for.

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SERIOUSLY WAHT THE FLYING f*ck!?? NO OC AND GAME CRASHES!!! AGAIN!??????? f*ck f*ck f*ck YOU ROCK FCUKINC STAR COCKSTAR f*ckSTAR!!!

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Hmmm,

 

I am very ashamed to have admit this... but ummm, I did some further tests and Crysis started freezing for me too. My gpu is getting hotter and hotter... Idle temps are now 80 C ish and load temps go up to 120 C which is the absolute limit for my card...

 

I can only say that for me personally its most likely that the issue is my gpu running far too hot.

 

I only hope that when I sort the heat issues I wont be getting freezes in GTA IV again...

 

 

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Hmmm,

 

I am very ashamed to have admit this... but ummm, I did some further tests and Crysis started freezing for me too. My gpu is getting hotter and hotter... Idle temps are now 80 C ish and load temps go up to 120 C which is the absolute limit for my card...

 

I can only say that for me personally its most likely that the issue is my gpu running far too hot.

 

I only hope that when I sort the heat issues I wont be getting freezes in GTA IV again...

i finished COD4 ; FarCry 2 ; Assassin's creed, AND GTA IV! no temperature worries, on GTA IV according to the logs the max my gpu gets is about 69º degrees (i also have 4850 dual slot) idle temps are 37º gaming temps are usualy 50 to 60º i dont think this is related to heat issues ... on the other hand i don't know waht else to do besides reinstalling windows since i seem to remember massive atiumdag.dll crashes after installing the 9.1 catalyst

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I just did a re-install of windows, was working great before the install. I went from XP Pro to Vista Home Premium, hated it, did a format and re-installed XP Pro. It worked fine on the old XP install, same with Vista. Once I did a clean install, bam. Around 6.9 fps, if it doesn't crash and freeze after the first minute or so. I've tried all the fixes mentioned, still nothing working. Still runs great on my laptop , even though I can only run it at 800 x 600 so it looks kinda crappy. Shame the game is so buggy, it's loads of fun.

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Subversion1337

 

Hmmm,

 

I am very ashamed to have admit this... but ummm, I did some further tests and Crysis started freezing for me too. My gpu is getting hotter and hotter... Idle temps are now 80 C ish and load temps go up to 120 C which is the absolute limit for my card...

 

I can only say that for me personally its most likely that the issue is my gpu running far too hot.

 

I only hope that when I sort the heat issues I wont be getting freezes in GTA IV again...

i finished COD4 ; FarCry 2 ; Assassin's creed, AND GTA IV! no temperature worries, on GTA IV according to the logs the max my gpu gets is about 69º degrees (i also have 4850 dual slot) idle temps are 37º gaming temps are usualy 50 to 60º i dont think this is related to heat issues ... on the other hand i don't know waht else to do besides reinstalling windows since i seem to remember massive atiumdag.dll crashes after installing the 9.1 catalyst

yes, it can't be just heat issues, it happens on too many machines for that. I was just saying that my next step is to sort out my gpu temps. I personally can't point the finger at GTA IV until I do that. with you it's not heat issues given that your temps are low. With me its either heat issues and GTA IV, or just heat issues.

 

I will say one thing, this game tests your PC's stability much more than Crysis or any other game in my experience.

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