Jay Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Try building a printing press, chiselling out a wheel, sparking fire or making alcohol without thumbs, lads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhoda Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Try building a printing press, chiselling out a wheel, sparking fire or making alcohol without thumbs, lads. That's true, though I could probably stomp some grapes to make wine, and very clumsily distill it by hand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolyGrenadeFrenzy Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 (edited) Try building a printing press, chiselling out a wheel, sparking fire or making alcohol without thumbs, lads. Opposable thumbs are not technically an invention. Evolutionary/genetic advancement does not equal a Tech Level advancement or invention classification even if it is required for such advancement or classification. That would be a break in evolutionary pattern or species classification or perhaps sub-species classification you are referring to. Edited February 9, 2009 by HolyGrenadeFrenzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lega_c Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 The internet. Does that count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Try building a printing press, chiselling out a wheel, sparking fire or making alcohol without thumbs, lads. Opposable thumbs are not technically an invention. I know that, I even said it myself on the first page. I was being facetious. Using the argument that 'invention x would not be here without invention y', and arguing through absurdity brings about my thumb remarks. It shouldn't have any bearing on one inventions integrity over another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhoda Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 I do agree with Jay in the sense that you can't compare each invention's importance in regard to one another, as many inventions have had a knock-on effect on others, influencing inventors and such like. Surely we wouldn't have the fax machine without the telephone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolyGrenadeFrenzy Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 (edited) Try building a printing press, chiselling out a wheel, sparking fire or making alcohol without thumbs, lads. Opposable thumbs are not technically an invention. I know that, I even said it myself on the first page. I was being facetious. Using the argument that 'invention x would not be here without invention y', and arguing through absurdity brings about my thumb remarks. It shouldn't have any bearing on one inventions integrity over another. Got it. Yet the peculair fact that some tech advancements seem to be somewhat or even completely instinctual makes for some interesting discussion matterial. Perhaps those that could not figure out flint knapping or fire starting all died off because of the inablity to survive harsh times or perhaps the doing of such things that just come natural is a phrase that has more or less meaning than thought of by the majority. Edited February 9, 2009 by HolyGrenadeFrenzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eDad. Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 I do agree with Jay in the sense that you can't compare each invention's importance in regard to one another, as many inventions have had a knock-on effect on others, influencing inventors and such like. Surely we wouldn't have the fax machine without the telephone? Except for alcohol. Embrace it's greatness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhoda Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 So alcohol's stand alone? I thought it was invented so the French could feel a little better about themselves. I kid, I kid, I love French bread and cheeses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolyGrenadeFrenzy Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 (edited) Many of you would find great benefit from going back to the former Plumbers of Rome's Wine Cask Making with lead being the material used for ceasing the fermentation and containment of beverage before consumption. It is historically great tasting, after all. Edit with a Father of All Metals source Edited February 9, 2009 by HolyGrenadeFrenzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhoda Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 It is historically great tasting, after all. Drinking and learning? Together? Sounds like my kind of course, do they do it at any United States university? It'd give me an excuse to leave the deadened old vineyards of North West England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolyGrenadeFrenzy Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 It is historically great tasting, after all. Drinking and learning? Together? Sounds like my kind of course, do they do it at any United States university? It'd give me an excuse to leave the deadened old vineyards of North West England. Warning/Disclaimer. Please go back and read the previous editted post or the following quote and then the page following the linky before consuming anything. Edit with a Father of All Metals source After that...do what you like. Seriously, it very well could be taught just about anywhere in some studies although it is researched it is not practiced by current distillers or plumbers to my knowledge except for historical reenactment or demonstrations. Good luch with that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathly Visage Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 the concept of time, clocks, minutes, seconds, hours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlOoDStReAm101 Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 What about heating? Without it, we'd all freeze in our homes. Air conditioners are life savors too during the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhoda Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 What about heating? Without it, we'd all freeze in our homes. Air conditioners are life savors too during the summer. Heating is a branch off from electricity nowadays, unless you use one of those classic open fires. Besides, while neanderthals did indeed freeze to death in times of sheer, extreme cold they utilized animal fur to keep warm, much like we use a blanket, jumper or hooded top to keep warm when we're unable to keep warm by any other means. For example, being out and about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolyGrenadeFrenzy Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 (edited) What about heating? Without it, we'd all freeze in our homes. Air conditioners are life savors too during the summer. Both ice, fire and geothermal/cooling living conditions are natural phenomenons used by many creatures and the advancement is partially instinctual, once again, and therefore the advancements you speak of are an advancement built on natural phenomenon, including instinctual, many Tech Advancements are like this when considering importance. Comfort is a far cry from essential, though, and most important seems to ask for necessity because,"Necessity is the mother of invention!", not laziness nor ease. But......for some it could be, I suppose yet it seems kinda contradictory to work really hard for laziness, although comfort itself may be a strong standpoint at first and eventually heating or cooling may be life or death and actually it has when considering its predecessor techs of Fire Building, Adobe, Cave Digging and the like. Weather and Enviormental conditions are a major survival issue for all species and for humanity it has become a major endeavor of many advances. Edited February 9, 2009 by HolyGrenadeFrenzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 I got it. A pointy stick. > Lends itself to hunting => Lends itself to warmth from fur => Lends itself to red meat consumption, protein and brain development ==> Lends itself to intelligence from developing brain ===> Lends itself to creating fire, wheels, spear heads for pointy sticks ===> Lends itself to rudimentary tool use ====> Lends itself to building intricate objects, like printing presses ====> Lends itself to construction, electricity, architecture and decreases reliance on nomadic movement =====> Lends itself to the creation of towns, cities and civilisations ======> Lends itself to print media, governance and celebrity =======> Lends itself to internet > Lends itself to internet people who can't grasp the use of a pointy stick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryuclan Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 the concept of time, clocks, minutes, seconds, hours? I don't know, time really is only a measurment of how long you've lived in my eyes. I think people could really go without using those things if we weren't so damn used to them now. I'd probably say condoms. Without them I'm sure the human race would have either overpopulated the Earth or have gone extinct due to STDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolyGrenadeFrenzy Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 I got it. A pointy stick. > Lends itself to hunting => Lends itself to warmth from fur => Lends itself to red meat consumption, protein and brain development ==> Lends itself to intelligence from developing brain ===> Lends itself to creating fire, wheels, spear heads for pointy sticks ===> Lends itself to rudimentary tool use ====> Lends itself to building intricate objects, like printing presses ====> Lends itself to construction, electricity, architecture and decreases reliance on nomadic movement =====> Lends itself to the creation of towns, cities and civilisations ======> Lends itself to print media, governance and celebrity =======> Lends itself to internet > Lends itself to internet people who can't grasp the use of a pointy stick A pointy stick is an excellent advancement. It is furthered when the use of fire made carbonization of the pointy end a more formidible tool and weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryuclan Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 I got it. A pointy stick. > Lends itself to hunting => Lends itself to warmth from fur => Lends itself to red meat consumption, protein and brain development ==> Lends itself to intelligence from developing brain ===> Lends itself to creating fire, wheels, spear heads for pointy sticks ===> Lends itself to rudimentary tool use ====> Lends itself to building intricate objects, like printing presses ====> Lends itself to construction, electricity, architecture and decreases reliance on nomadic movement =====> Lends itself to the creation of towns, cities and civilisations ======> Lends itself to print media, governance and celebrity =======> Lends itself to internet > Lends itself to internet people who can't grasp the use of a pointy stick A pointy stick is an excellent advancement. It is furthered when the use of fire made carbonization of the pointy end a more formidible tool and weapon. Not to mention without them, what would you poke sleeping bums with?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 I'd probably say condoms. Without them I'm sure the human race would have either overpopulated the Earth or have gone extinct due to STDs. Hahahaha either or, right? Also, @time concept: You remind me of Trent Lane from Daria with that sort of notion of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathly Visage Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 I got it. A pointy stick. > Lends itself to hunting => Lends itself to warmth from fur => Lends itself to red meat consumption, protein and brain development ==> Lends itself to intelligence from developing brain ===> Lends itself to creating fire, wheels, spear heads for pointy sticks ===> Lends itself to rudimentary tool use ====> Lends itself to building intricate objects, like printing presses ====> Lends itself to construction, electricity, architecture and decreases reliance on nomadic movement =====> Lends itself to the creation of towns, cities and civilisations ======> Lends itself to print media, governance and celebrity =======> Lends itself to internet > Lends itself to internet people who can't grasp the use of a pointy stick A pointy stick is an excellent advancement. It is furthered when the use of fire made carbonization of the pointy end a more formidible tool and weapon. Not to mention without them, what would you poke sleeping bums with?? and corpses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryuclan Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Not to mention without them, what would you poke sleeping bums with?? and corpses Exactly. Ewwww poke at it Haha and we wouldn't have phrases like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhoda Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 So you're telling me a pointy stick is the reason for knobs to go around thinking prodding a maggot infested corpse is a popular source of humour? I wonder if it's marvels stop there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathly Visage Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Not to mention without them, what would you poke sleeping bums with?? and corpses Exactly. Ewwww poke at it Haha and we wouldn't have phrases like that. exept oxidiser pokes them with his penis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolyGrenadeFrenzy Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 I got it. A pointy stick. > Lends itself to hunting => Lends itself to warmth from fur => Lends itself to red meat consumption, protein and brain development ==> Lends itself to intelligence from developing brain ===> Lends itself to creating fire, wheels, spear heads for pointy sticks ===> Lends itself to rudimentary tool use ====> Lends itself to building intricate objects, like printing presses ====> Lends itself to construction, electricity, architecture and decreases reliance on nomadic movement =====> Lends itself to the creation of towns, cities and civilisations ======> Lends itself to print media, governance and celebrity =======> Lends itself to internet > Lends itself to internet people who can't grasp the use of a pointy stick A pointy stick is an excellent advancement. It is furthered when the use of fire made carbonization of the pointy end a more formidible tool and weapon. Not to mention without them, what would you poke sleeping bums with?? and corpses Poking sleeping bums and corpses falls under the Tool category and su-category as Weapon as well, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machida Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 In the beginning God created heaven and earth. Cocktail sticks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhoda Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 So, the list of what a pointy stick can give us grows. Aside from reducing the dignity of a homeless man to mere filth, it can also hold our favourite party treats and make us look tasteful at the same time. "What have you got there?" "Pineapple, cheese and a pickled onion. Jealous?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryuclan Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 So you're telling me a pointy stick is the reason for knobs to go around thinking prodding a maggot infested corpse is a popular source of humour? I wonder if it's marvels stop there. Well it's not as funny when you do it with your finger. It's just more sanitary and humourous to use a sharp stick. Another great invention....Porn, now come on nobody can dispute that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathly Visage Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 In the beginning God created heaven and earth. Cocktail sticks. he invented those on the secret 8th day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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